"Жаран Цагаан Адуу" - Sixty White Horses (Song about Dzungar Genocide)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- The song "Sixty White Horses" is an expression of the feelings of the people of the remote regions of Mongolia, it is a sad song that arose from their life, but it is interpreted in several ways by historians and researchers. This song can be connected with the sad story of the massacre of Dzungar Mongols, including men, women and children, who opposed the Manchurian (Qing Dynasty) invasion policy, and the dispersal of surrendered citizens. Also, the majority agree on the version of mourning and lamentation of the minorities who live far away in the borderlands of their country and miss their compatriots. More than when and where the origin of the song originated, the ideas and the sadness it expresses seem to tell one thing about our society today. The song "Sixty White Horses" is a song of the Tuvan people (for this song it's "Kongurei") missing their broken brothers and sisters, (and not only Mongols and Tuvans sing this song, Buryats too) and the song "Sixty White Horses" was sung together by the group "Khosogtyun" and long singer S. Tsogtsaikhan.
Original audio downloaded from: • Хөсөгтөн, С.Цогтсайхан...
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Манжуудад тархиа тэр аяар нь угаалгасан Халх Цахарууд Ойрадын эсрэг босохдоо огтхон ч эргэлзээгүй баримтууд зөндөө л байдаг. Гэтэл Монголын тусгаар тогтнолыг чадахаараа тогтоож Төрөл садан Монголчууд нь хүртэл урваж байхад Монголчуудаа биш ганцхан Манжыг зүхэсээр дууссан хүмүүс бол Ойрадууд. Одоо наад муу сайн Увсууд тэр Дөрвөд хүн, хүн биш энэ тэр гэсэн Манжын тархи угаалтын үг хэллэгээ хаяхыг уриалья!
@RandomMongolian Хамгийн их оролцсон
Odoo humuusig hard baingut Durvud muusain bags ystanguud gd uzdgun bnlee
@@BuumbaaBataa-m2v Манж Оросуудад тархиа угаалгацан юм чинь аргагүй шддэ
@@saarne9858 Ойрадын эсрэг дайнд хамгийн их гавьяа байгуулсан хүмүүс Дөрвөдүүд. 1753 онд Дөрвөдийн Цэрэн ноён Манжид дагаар орж тэр улмаар дайнд их гавьяа байгуулан Ойрадын бослогыг нухчин дарж Манжийн хаанаас Төгс Хүлэг Далай Хан гэх цол мөн Хошой Чин Ван цол авсан. Дөрвөдүүдийг хүн биш гэж Халхууд биш Ойрадууд нь хэлдэг биз. Ойрадуудын эсрэг дайнд явсан жанжид гэхэд дан Дөрвөд хүмүүс байдаг. Нэр ус зураг хөрөгтөйгөө байна хөөе. Ойрад Түмэнээс урваад Халх түмэнд дагаар орж Халх болсон Дөрвөдүүдийг ямар юмныхан Ойрад гэдэгийм. 200 300 жилийн дараа гэнэт баахан Ойрадууд гараад ирж гэнэ.
Дөрвөд бол Ойрад биш шүү Ойрад үндэстэнг хядах ажилд хамгийн үүрэг гүйцэтгэсэн хүмүүс дөрвөдүүд Манжийн 8 тугийн цэрэгийн 6 жанжин дөрвөд хүн байсан дөрвөд хүн хүн биш гэсэн үг түүнээс гаралтай шүү түүхээ уншаа дөрвөдүүд Ойрадын хааны хуйвалдаанд оролцож улмаар өөрсдийн дэмжиж байсан хүн алдагдаад эсрэг байсан Даваач хаан болж Ойрадын цэрэг дөрвөдийн эсрэг дайрч ноёныг хүн ардтай дайрч алсанаас дөрвөдийн 3 Цэрэн з 17 мянган дөрвөд хүн ардаа аван өвөлөөр цасан шуурганаар зугтаж Манжийн хаанд дагаар орохоо илэрхийлэн дагаар ороод хожим Манжийн 8 тугийн цэрэгийн захиран Ойрад үндэстнийг устгасан байдаг юм Манжийн хаан тэднийг их сайшаан одоогийн Улаангомд газар өгч суурьшуулсан
As a Kazakh, i'm sad for the Dzungars. Even though they were our biggest emenies, they didn't deserve such a fate. We should have united, not fought.
Солай біреуі орысқа ,біреуі қытайға жем болды
@@Mrgsg-nb6cxТүркиядан сәлем Қазақ бауырым дұрыс айтасың
准噶尔灭亡，哈萨克也分区很大一块地。你不用替他们难过，你们可以把你们拿走的那部分土地还给准噶尔。
This song is so heartbreaking . Where are the survivors' descents nowday? Everyculture, every people is a precious treasure for humanity
Kalmykia. Descendants of Dzungars who fled from the genocide were granted a fief north of the Caucasus by Empress Ekaterina of Russia for conquering the Caucasus.
In Western Mongolia there are ethnics called Zakhchin, Urainkhai, Uuld, Torguud, they are all survivors of this genocide. I am Zakhchin. All those ethnics belonged to Oirat Zuungar Mongolia.
ikr, this is so emotional😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Most of the survivors fled to the west and north. Some of them stayed in Djungaria and still live in modern day Xinjiang province. Life is tough there. Oirads who migrated to the west, suffered greatly from attacks by their Turkic enemies but eventually joined oirad kingdom on Volga river. Oirads who migrated to the north, joined Buryad tribes on the western shore of lake Baikal. Some of my ancestors were the former refugees
Most of the dzanger people are in Russia but some smaller groups are in Washington State USA
I feel your pain, oirat brothers.😓
My ancestors, Telengits, were genocided too because they were part of Dzungar state. Kazakhs, Khalkha, Manchu and southern mongols did it.
you should first know history .There were 5 of 8 military captain was oirat people in dzungar genocide. Read and read(lack of knowledge still blaming others!)
@@jargaljantsansambuu3989 source?
@@moony7144 officers like ayusi defected to the qing,
@@moony7144kazakh have Teleu tribe(telengit)
Үнхээр хэцүү юм энэ дууг сонсохоор цээж нь дээр нэг юм тулаад хоолой зангираад байх юм😢
Every time i listen this song i always cry…
Ийм гунигын дууг М угж Ариунаа наадмын,баярын дуу болгоод дуулчдаг 😢
Гунигтай болохоор л битгий март гэж байгаа юм.
Эгч нар нь энд бн үрс одоо ийм олуулаа болсон гэж харуулж дуулсан байх
Манж Чин гүрэн 1756-1758 оны хооронд нүүдэлчдийн сүүлчийн эзэнт гүрэн болох Ойрадын Зүүнгарын хаант улсыг эзлэн авч, Ойрадууд 3 удаа бослого гаргахад 3дахь удаад нь Манжууд аймшигт геноцид хийсэн юм. 600мянга орчим Ойрадуудаас 120мянган хүн хүрэхтээ үгүй цөөн болтол нь эр эм, хүүхэд хөгшидгүй бүгдийг нь алж хядсан байдаг юм. Үлдсэн 120 мянган хүн уул хаданд бүгэх зэргээр амьд үлдсэн. Манжийн туршуул Зүүнгарын нутгаар явсан тайландаа бичихдээ "20 хоног явахад нэг ч хүн тааралдсангүй" гэсэн байдаг. Нутгийг нь эзгүйртэл хүн ардыг нь алж устгасан байгаа юм. Манжуудын Зүүнгарт хийсэн хядлага нь дэлхийн түүхэн дахь хамгийн том 10 геноцидийн нэг. Энэ аймшигт эмгэнэлт явдалаас "Жаран цагаан адуу" гэх энэхүү дуу үүссэн юм. Iim utgtai shu ah
Орчуулга жаахан тааруу болжээ гэхдээ яахав дууны өншө аяснаас ойлгогдож болохоор л байна
i've research what happened to the dzungar.. that's horrible, and the worst is that no one talk about that, in france we have a similar story with vendee, vendean and dzungar are both frogotten (or even denied) genocide, the french republican gouvernment act with the vendean Rebels exactly like the Qing invader with the dzungar, so from france mongols people Will always have my respect
I am sorry for the dzungars, however saying Qing was the invader was not true. Dungar basically attracted everybody around them the Kazah, uyghurs, tibetans, khalkha mongolia, even launched a conquest near Beijing. They had a reason to aggressive, because none of people around them were nice guys. Qing was simply defending itself, however the front line generals lost control.
Энэ дууг сонсохоор цээжин дээр нэг юм тулаад хоолой зангирдагдаа
В 1945м году советские солдаты водрузили знамя над императорским дворцом вонючей маньчжурской династии. Командовал ими славный герой калмыцкого народа генерал Басанг Городовиков. Вечная слава ойратским батырам!
As an Uzbek myself, the Dzungar genocide wasn't just a tragedy for the Dzungars, but also for all Central Asia. The Chinese (Qing) didn't hold their promise, later oppressed both the Kazakhs and Uyghurs and imposed their colonial rule there. The Russian invasion of Central Asia was due to the Chinese oppression, and we would not forget it.
I didnt know this can you teach with speak or a video link?
After this massacre, the envoy of the Manchu-Qing Dynasty went to Oirad for 2 months and found no one alive. There is a note saying that we won.
another banger as usual, keep up mane 🫡
how is this a banger? its emptional and about a genocide you should not say banger instead feel sad about the genocide the Dzungar people had to experience
@@ConquestMappingYT a banger doesn't always mean bad, it's a good thing for a song with such heavy meaning and tragic origins to sound good, so people would be willing to listen to it and understand it's meaning. It's important for history to be remembered, be it through literature or melody, and if said melody sounds good, generations down would remember the song and sings it to their grandchildren. My heart goes for the people of Dzungar who were unrightfully massacred by the Qing Dynasty, may all of them rest in peace.
@@ZaynKauthar oh sorry i didnt know cuz i dont know all meanings of english words because im Mongolian and yes may all rest in piece that was massacred by the evil Qing Dynasty
😢😢😢 zuun gar
Even though i am indian(bharathiya) i don't understand a word but I can feel the sadness in the song 😢
This is instant karma. They attacked to kazakh villages first, then kazakh destroyed them and Manchus genocided them
@@sanzhar6399 yeah dzunghars aren't innocent but what about the dzunghar civilians who were just minding their own life who had nothing to do with what military campaigns their khans or generals were in or how their soldiers abused neighbouring Kingdom,s and khanate,s
@@GopalkrishnaGopal-gy6oq but it's still sad
@@sanzhar6399 it is after the extermination of the dzunghar the Russians were able to enter to central asia to invade khazakh khanate and other turkic khanates
@@GopalkrishnaGopal-gy6oq but this was russian's plan also
Uneher gunigtai
Uvug deedes maani iim zovloncbitgii edleesei gej ugsun gazar nutag erh chuluu tusgaar togtnoliig tur zasag gutaan doromjilg ulandaa gisgesend bi haramsaj baina. Uvuu emeegiin uyiinhen ulsiin turiig oligtoihon avj yavsan bol 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
orosuudd tarhia ugaalgatsn shude ted nar ni odoo boltl gutliig ni doloogod ywj l bna uwuu emee nr
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Thank you
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Nobody talks about them because the genocide was too successful, the Dzungars don't even have any friends surviving now. The Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Khalkha Mongols (modern day Mongolians), were all joining with the Qing empire killing them. Their only "potential" ally was the Mughal empire of India. But they were also getting beaten by the British at the time, so no help was sent
Very true. This part of history is not even mentioned in most history books or collages
Адуу- Herds
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манжуурууд тамруу яваасай…
Mongols also
Манжнарийн хийсэн ажил биш. Энэ блл Богд хааны манжнартай хамтарсан зүйл
@@rodrigoh1025what type of mongols because they are different ethnic groups. The dzungars are Oriots while what am I is khalkhin Mongolian
Muusain mongol gesen nerig barisan uwsuud bol manjiin tsusni hytaduud ym.
😢😢😢
One of the biggest genocides in pre-induetrial ages 😢
The Manchus were the decendents of the jurchen people who got destroyed by the mongols in 1235. But now, it’s the hunted turn to become the hunter and take revenge of it’s past humiliation.
I’ve heard so many versions of this (mostly Tuvan) and had no idea what it was about.
This song came out during dzungar genocide to remember your dead family and friends
My grandpa told me that he once got punished by his father for humming the melody of this song. And we are Bayad Mongols of Oirad
@@ninjinczn5577 Why would he be punished?
As Kalmyk I would add that humming was not allowed among oirats. Not sure where all those tabus came from. And for example you can’t hug your self I was always told - Эльгн бича теврдҗ. and so on. So maybe it had nothing to do with song itself
tuva was part Zun gar khanat.
Энэ дууны түүх манжтай огт холбоогүй шүү хххааааи
My mood when channel says inactive as of 2024/08/12:
Эгч нар ах нар гэж юуг зүйрлэж хэлээд байгаан бол
Unah ezengvi morid , tsereggvi gazar nutag ymar bha bileedee tgd vree aldsan hvmvvst l zoriulj ah nar egch nar geed bha shig bnsh eswel ter vyed ewlelden negdii gej bsan hvmvvs haana bnaaa l geed bha shig bgan
Их гүн утгатай байдаг
mini bodlor halhuudig ah egch nar gejigan bolu gej bodson tsereg ni haan bna halh eej nara /halh oird 2 eelj daraallan ezelj dairad 20km ywhad amid hvn vgvi gej hytadin tagnuul bichsen gehde manjuud in bodlogo orson bha oird mongolig manjud hatgaad bsn bh
манжууруудаас болж байгаа юм😢😢😢
манжууд мөхсөн шүүдээ япончуудад эзлэгдээд
Дан ганц Манжууд ч бишдээ Өвөр Монгол Халх Хасагууд гээд бүгд л Ойрадын хядлагад оролцсондоо. Өвөр Халх Монголчуудад хядлагад оролцсоны шанд хэргэм зэрэг алт юмбүү Хасагуудад Ойрадуудын эзэн сууж байсан одоогын Шинжан мужыг өгсөн. Яахав хядлагад оролцохгүй гэсэн Монгол цэрэгүүд байсан хэдий ч ноёныг сөрвөл толгойгүй гэгчээр оролцохоос өөр яахав.
@@saarne9858 аан заза
😢💔
Mnai halhuudas l boljiign😢
bi chine khalkha shde bi yasan ym😢😢
@@ConquestMappingYTОйрадын хядлагад халхууд бид нар чамгүй оролцсон хүмүүс шүү! Манжуудаас алт зоос юмбүү хэргэм зэрэг авж Төрөл саданаа хөнөөсөн улсууд шүү дээ.
@@ConquestMappingYT Халх гэж угтаа харийн дайсанд халх,илдний үзүүр болж нутаг улс үндэстэнгээ хамгаал гэж өгсөн Даяан хааны цол юм шүү.Үүргээ умартан эрх ямба горилж элэг нэгтэнгээ самархад цэрэг нэмж толгойлон оролцсон ичмээр түүхээс зайлж чадахгүй ээ.
@@saarne9858 er ni uursduu l mungu tugrug tsol hergemd shunaad l ulsaa suitgecihsndee mnai mongolchuud chingis haan uhsni dra haan shireenii tuluu temtsldj tarj butraad manjid ezlegdeed ted nrin gutliig dolooj mongolchuudiga horoosn arai hiij tusgaar uls bolh gej bhda hurtl orosuudig dagj hedn myngn hun helmegduulelteer alsn odo ch neg tumr shagnal munguni tuluu darga tsereg ard irged ni uhen aldn ywh ymda neere
энэ эмгэнэлт түүхийг үеийн үрд хэзээ ч мартаж болохгүй
Actually there is more earlier variation of this song. It's turk, and about their state or pre-state union "Kongurey" placed in Minussink area.
This is a copyright free music correct ?
odoo hvrtel halh mongolchuud archaagu vrgelj ys vndestnvvde hvn bish gj bddog jalga downii heruulen yg odoo hvrtel bii manji darxi ugaasan bol ert vyd odoo hytad hagralduulj bna
Wait, this is where “Kongurei” comes from?
Yeh
That's why it sounded familiar
Odoo oirad humuus bdigin bolu zger asuuj nga shu sn mddgu
Ккк энэ Өөлд,Баяд,дөрвөд,торгууд одоо энэ Увс, Ховдын хазгай хэлтэнгүүд чинь Ойрдуудын үр сад ( алдагдаагүй үлдсэн хэсэг) Архангай аймгийн нэг сум нэрийг нь мартаж Манжууд авчирч суулгасан гэдэг.
Бага ястнууд чинь бүгд Ойрадууд хасагуудаас бусад нь
Sadge for Oirats and Dzungar Khanate. 😢 Respect for Esen Taishi and creaters of last nomadic empire(khanate)
Би Турк хүн.
Ардаг гэж ямар утгатай үг вэ?
Ardag aduu gej aashtai, agsan bas am hatuutai aduu, moriig hej baigaa yum.
Догшин зантай
odooch hvrtel mongolchuudig ym bvhend hagralduulxinmaa
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My brothers gej bichne ah nar min gehed
My brother gedeg chin ah min l bolchod bnldaa tsaashdaa anhaaraarai tvvhen dursgalt duunii jijig aldaag l hellee shvv
bas toonuud ni aldaatai bhin
And now the manchurians and uyghur people are paying for his crimes.
exactly, the uyghurs joined the massacre, thats why they survived, now the uyghurs claiming xinjiang is all their land is pure madness, it simply wasn't.
@@commie5211Especially since the northern half of it is Han today and has been Han in the past before as well
Uyghurs never held the entire region
@@sanneoi6323 during han dynasty, it was China. however, it changed hands a few times. before Qing dynasty conquered it, northern xinjang belongs the dzungars.
@@commie5211Dorvod tribe in Mongolia originally lived in todays Xinjiang region and they’re Oirat Mongols which is why their dialect is very different from Khalkha Mongols .
@@EchoVortex713 Define originated? The only indigenous people in this land were caucasians(google loulan), however they went extinct because of climate change. After that the land exchanged hands quite a few times.
It was because of the treacherous warriors in Mongolian history that it became such a disaster
இவை எங்கிருந்து கண்டு புடிக்கிறீர்கள்?
இணையத்தில் இருந்து
@@akabn சரி
Glory be to Allah. I reckon Mamluk sultans who have ruled levant and egypt and the Arabian land - their origin were from Kazakh and Persian countries
But fact he is 100% kazakh
@@user-sz8wk4bc3f sultan alzaher baybers from kibshaq but others from Persian countries and Russia
@@irekbuka5532 yes