Targaryen Prophecy: What was Aegon doing at Summerhall?
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- In A Song of Ice and Fire, the Tragedy at Summerhall takes place several decades before Game of Thrones begins and over a century after House of the Dragon ends. Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow's ancestor, Aegon V, hosts a Targaryen family get-together, which ends in disaster. This video looks at how this tragedy may be connected to various prophecies of Westeros and other ASOIAF lore as well. From Aegon the Conqueror to Rhaegar and Maester Aemon, the Targaryen prophecy of the Prince that was Promised is persistent.
Warning: this theory assumes R+L=J; please tell me how wrong I am in the comments.
Intro music - "Above The Vast Clouds Of The Aquamarine Peak" by Quest Master: questmaster.bandcamp.com/albu...
Outro music - "Rectangular" by Sean Stephens: • Rectangular
Thumbnail art:
Aegon V by Mylestoyne www.tumblr.com/mylestoyne
Summerhall by Marc Simonetti art.marcsimonetti.com/
Rhaegar Targaryen by Karla Ortiz www.karlaortizart.com/
Daenerys Targaryen by Dalberadiata www.tumblr.com/dalberadiata
Art credits: docs.google.com/document/d/e/...
* At 10:35, the art of Dunk & Rhaella should be credited to Naomimakesart.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:38 Egg
4:08 Summerhall
7:00 Driven by prophecy
9:22 Rhaegar (sucks)
11:05 Dany's blood sacrifice
13:38 Stannis don't do it
16:20 Wake the dragon
19:00 TL;DW
20:23 Last Words
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my personal headcanon is dunc went back into summerhall as many times as he could to save a bunch of people like the true chad he is before he died
I prefer the theory that he held up the walls of the castle so people could get out. Considering he is called “thick as a castle wall”
@@oscardetina8509 oh that's a good one too
@@theprofessionalhater69
If he saved so many, why only like, 2 or 3 Targaryens? 😅
@@thalmoragent9344considering the castle was burning with wildfire and yet he still ran in, saving 2-3 people is pretty good in my book
I think the theory I’ve seen makes the most sense is that egg had dragon dreams of daenerys but he misinterpreted it for himself hatching the dragons
Agreed... Possibly all of those dragon dreams post death of dragons are visions of danny at least the waking dragons with fire
Saw a bald kid an assumed ot was him lol
@@Ashbrash1998bro 😅
@@Ashbrash1998bro didn't notice the tits
Oh he hatched a dragon, just not a literal fire dragon. He hatched Rhaegar. I dont know the full importance of it yet, but Id bet everything I own that the tragedy at summerhall is what brought the whitewalkers back.
Honestly, Jon Snow being resurrected by the blood spell of sacrificing Shireen would be an absolutely insane way to reveal that he's actually a Targaryen. Like Stannis and Melisandre being absolutely confused by his sudden resurrection due to the ritual, only for one or both of them to realize the implications of their ritual to awaken stone dragons somehow bringing back this random guy.
That's so cool! I mean it's messed up they killed Shireen, a literal child, but, that would be such an epic yet heartbreaking way to reveal Jon's parentage
The implications of Targaryen men being beautiful beings in the books reinforces the fact that a lot of the dragon dreamers of the Targaryen dynasty after the Dance saw a vision of Daenerys being bald, hatching dragons using bloodmagic and sacrifice. It's sad that Maester Aemon was the only one to figure all this out right before dying.
"Egg tried to sacrifice an unborn rhaegar but Duncan and a few lords refuses so a little commotion happens then the fire gets outoff hand. Duncan is left with no choice but to prevent egg in order to free rhaegar's mom. Duncan dies with Egg in the castle after saving her".
That's not even a theory at this point I think it happened...
it kinda feels way too predictable, if preston jacobs theory is right then pregnant targaryen women are key to hatching dragon eggs, they probably actually hatched but the meisters tried to cover it up by murdering everyone in a wildfire related incident, and that's the reason rhaella has so many stillborns after this, she is getting poison to prevent her from passing on those dragon hatching genes
I dunno why Summerhall happened, but i strongly suspect Dunk gives Egg one final "clout on the ear" to knock him unconscious and take control of the situation and then kicks down a door to save Rhaella. The realm needed his hand and foot, afterall
I love this theory 😭
Imagine if king Aegon started yelling burn them all, and Dunk struck him down, as Aerys later mirrors what happened there, and Jamie strikes him down before he commits his sacrifice of fire and blood
The irony is Summerhall probably helped birth Rhaegar, so then he would be able to create the three dragon heads.
Or Rhaegar was probably to die to bring the Dragons. Remember during Robert Rebellion there were reports that Others were waking up.
I do wonder if it was the religious connotations attached to Aegon Vs attempts to hatch the eggs he prepared that prevented them from hatching. All of his attempts invovled the Seven; seven mages, seven eggs, seven septons, etc... it was all about the Faith of the Seven.
Good catch
Playing as Aegon V in Crusader Kings 3’s AGOT and the Summerhall situation and the nice family events that lead up to it put me in my feels
I think Ser Pounce invented the dragonbomb theory and killed them so he could usurp the position of Prince who was Promised. He is also the Night King after all.
Just had the Summerhall event while playing as Aegon V in CK3 and now I’m in my feels
I haven’t gotten that event in CK3 yet (I’m mostly still on CK2). Did it play out any differently than in the book, or is the event always the exact same?
My headcanon is that the Dragons actually hatched and immediately burned everything down.
But where did they go..? Also a new born dragon wouldn't be able to create such a fierce fire yet. It was def the wildfire.
@@coldhands2802 I find it thematically interesting and cool if Daenerys wasn't the only one who managed to hatch dragons, but that it was always possible, just under these intense conditions. Linked to sacrifice and death.And George R. R. Martin seems to be withholding a plot twist from us. And I would find it very cool if it had something to do with the dragons actually hatching during the process and either causing the fire or dying from it.
@@samwinchester1326 how would it be interesting and cool to take away a feat from dany ? Undermining one of her achievements is cool and interesting to you ?
@thatoneblackdude3333 Yes, it is :) and how is it a "feat from dany" . She didn't intend to wake any dragons or survive that fire.
It was just a random magical incident.
@@samwinchester1326 how? . , she did intend to wake dragons and survive the fire why do you think she told jorah not to worry or told merri she remembered what she thought her , dany waking dragons wasn't a accident it was intentional nor was it a suicide attempt , suggesting someone else woke dragons from stone undermines dany achievement of doing so since that's her thing mother of dragons.
Another great video. This is my favorite mystery in the whole series of ASOIAF. Hopefully one day you could do a Raines of Castamere and Defiance of Duskendale videos.
In my headcannon they tried hatching the dragon eggs with wildfire but instead of hatching the eggs exploded like magical napalm bombs
As Aemon is dying, he keeps going on about the dragon has 3 heads. So that leads me to believe that there is the that are promised not just one prince. Dany and Jon...but who is the 3rd.
It could be FAegon. He may be a Blackfyre, but at the end a dragon is a dragon regardless of his colour. Daenerys could attack him, but later reconcile in order to save the world. That would be my theory, because other than him, I could not imagine another possible Targaryen.
I always really wanted at least one of the eggs at Summerhall to actually hatch. But, tragically for the Targaryen’s, they get crushed and it’s an inverse of Dany’s sacrifice of Drogo and Mirri for a dragon, with a dragon sacrificed for Rhaegar.
Imagine if, when we get the show or final book, we see the eggs crack and maybe a dragon hatch, but then the building comes down and destroys them.
@@bloodangel19 The pyromancer’s wondering why there was 2 minutes of great wildfire all of a sudden.
I don't know if Aegon V was literally thinking of sacrificing unborn great-grandchild, but it was definitely an attempt of dragon hatching gone wrong. And it seems he was covering most bases, 7 eggs to honour the 7 gods, and a Maester on hand (if the Maester wasn't the only one trying to pass some account of the incident I would steer towards Maester Conspiracy), "blood of the dragon", without specifying who was there exactly, to bear witness (and maybe donate some blood), and maybe there was some sacrifice involving the wildfire (of someone inconsequential) that got out of control. And the Ghost of High Heart was there, wasn't she? With Duncan's Jenny. And she clearly has some old gods/children of the forest tie-ins. And who knows what dusty Valyrian spells were added to the mix.
And I do buy that all of them were seeing some version of Dany hatching/ riding dragons and misinterpreting their dreams as it's often the case. Just how I believe Rhaegar dreamt of Dany and convinced himself she needed to be his 3rd child - Visenya, since Rhaenys and Aegon clearly didn't match. And he had no reason to consider she could be his sister. Viserys wasn't born until Rhaegar was what 18? And Vis was already 7 or 8. And the way his parents were and his mother's age, it was not a stretch to not expect another living child from them. So he assumed that this Dragon girl must be his, and since Rhaenys was dark-haired and Aegon light but a boy, he drew a conclusion that a 3rd child for 3 dragons is needed. Why he didn't consider that she may come from Viserys' line is another matter. It would be a twist of fate if it was Rhaegar's pursuit of Dany was a factor in the Rebellion starting and Jon Snow being born.
But in the end, Summerhall both failed (no winged creatures were hatched) and somewhat succeed? From a sprawling family with many cousins, we have 5 people left. 2 couples and a newborn. Everyone else falls off the pages of history. Just the line to ensure that Dany and Jon are born. If Rhaegar discounted his brother, then there was no other path to dream!Dany other than from himself. And in the end, Dany's existence brought back dragons. And the whole Lyanna debacle placed Jon Snow in a prime position at the wall to face the prophesied threat.
But it's not likely every maester participates in maesters conspiracy, they are a cult, there are ones who love magic read about them & have gained chains of it, luwin qyburn marwyn...
So the conspiracy is a strong probability...
But this line hit the feels : rhaegar's pursuit of Dany was a factor in the rebellion starting & jon snow being born
I also love that u said ''a factor''
in the rebellion cuz the situation was complicated it's not fair to simply blame it on one thing
I dunno, that many dead Targaryens all over a hunch isn't something I'd call a worthy sacrifice.
Also, what do you mean "Rhaenys and Aegon clearly didn't match"?
@laza0202
Maester Conspiracy has become a thorn in my side lately. Every single thing that happens, even the damn leaves that fall in the ocean, just HAS to be the Maesters, all cause the Hightowers just wanna play around for some reason.
It's getting kinda ridiculous tbh.
@thalmoragent9344 If Rhaegar deamt of Dany, a Targaryen looking girl, then he knew his children were not her - they didn't match the dream. Rhaenys was a girl but had dark hair, and Aegon was pale haired but a boy. If he believed (for some reason) her to be his daughter, then he would try for a 3rd child to hopefully match his supposed prophetic dreams? Especially if he saw her against the shadow of 3 dragons or something...
@thalmoragent9344 personally, I don't believe they were responsible for Summerhall. As for your complaint about the theory, that's the "joys" of conspiracy theories. One starts seeing "proof" and enemies everywhere. And we can not deny that Maesters disliked Targaryens and their dragons. If they had a hand in their extinction, would it be surprising if they wanted to prevent their rebirth? And, of course, they are influential confidants in many, many households, with access to letters and with a say on personal health, so if they had a common agenda, it wouldn't be difficult to push. They are very easy to blame for anything and everything :) It is difficult to stop once you start pinning things on them.
It's always good to see your in depth videos for GOT, it makes you think about it from different point of views.
I think they hatched, and the maesters burnt it all down. Like Aerys was going to in KL. Dunk couldn’t save everyone
Aegon probably uncovered the maester/oldtown conspiracy and that rushed him into undoing it and make dragons before he had all the knowledge. That’s why the maesters make him look power hungry. Or Bloodraven killed his family for the sake of the realm again
out of all of his family members, Egg seemed to be the one that bloodraven was rooting for
Amazing video!
I think it was the comet that caused the eggs to hatch. In one of George's other book I believe he has the same idea of a comet that bring forth magic.
Another happy landing. Great vid.
The Mike Tomlin jump scare in a Asoiaf video was appreciated lol
I know the burning of Shareen is a popular theory, but I do not belive that Stannis the Mannis, the one true King, would ever harm his daughter.
Also without Melisandre(since she is at the wall right now), where is the point in that? He cant do magic on his own and he knows that.
Crazy, how GRRM does let out imagination run wild in so many different routes ^^
It going be the Mother does it!!!!
Stannis more than likely wouldn’t harm Shireen but he’s outside Winterfell.
Shireen,Melisandre,and Selyse are all at the wall.
If Shireen gets sacrificed it’ll more than likely be done without his knowledge with Selyse’s consent. She pretty much hates Shireen anyways. (Seeing Shireen as as the embodiment of her failure to provide Stannis with an heir)
@@jaredwat8478 that is a valid concern.. damn witches (magical and royal ones)
@@jaredwat8478 imagine if her own mother is the one to bring up the idea in the first place jesus christ.
I think the big secret of this tragedy might be that the eggs may have actually hatched inside Summerhall that night after some ritual (maybe a sacrifice), but the commotion (probably over said sacrifice) lead to the sudden spread of wildfire which killed the hatchlings as well as almost everyone present.
I think that would be such a great reveal, if GRRM lives long enough to write it…being that an egg or even multiple eggs actually hatched in Summerhall, it would only add to the tragedy of it all.
Overall, whatever theory or possible plan may have conspired, I think we can all say that no matter the reason, the Tragedy of Summerhall was just that: a Tragedy, and an unnecessary loss of life.
And if it ever comes to pass that it was indeed Bloodraven who orchestrated this, I still say he did wrong. Not even just from a moral standpoint, but from a tactical and practical one.
Jeopardize their whole house for the sake of certain match ups and mixes of blood? Nah mate, much better ways could've brought about. 😮💨
It was successful what he did was to bring a spark back to the dragons and the dragons hatched it was to hatched dragons and rhaegar hatched and hatched Jon snow and Daenerys people see this as a failure they lost the crown but got their dragons back why is worth way more
Ser Duncan the Tall was the last thing to his King before he burned to death. Hitting his King in the ear.
We'll always be together
Together in prophetic dreeeeeaaaaaaams
I saw a theory that Egg before heading to Summerhall created a secret society hellbent on bringing back the dragons and learning more about the threat north of the wall.... The members being Bloodraven, Aemon, Marwin, Rhaeghar, Oberyn, Sarella and their newest member Sam Tarly cause that would be so cool if it were true
Dany's baby was already dead when the dragons hatched. Only her the Kahl and the witch were alive when the fire was lit.
Correct. I mention this in the video, but I should clarify that I made an assumption that Rhaego’s corpse was in the fire with Drogo’s. After subconsciously sacrificing him to Mirri, I imagine Dany would have burned Rhaego with Drogo.
I dont think stannis would sacrifice shireen in the books considering he tells tycho if he died to sit shireen on the throne . Shireen's death would probably come from melisandre sacrificing her to resurrect jon.
I personally think it was the comet that had something to do with, but the pyre was like the explanation point.
This video is excellent! I love all the theories and ideas. Personally, I also like the theory that the Maesters were somehow involved. I like the idea that they sabotaged something causing the deaths of so many Targaryens. I don't think it's super likely, and I think it's probably a big combo of a bunch of different theories, but I find every Maester conspiracy fascinating.
The only thing though... Is if it was so easy to bring back dragons, why didn't it happen earlier? There are plenty of terrible people willing to do awful things for power. There's probably more to it. The comet might also have been necessary.
Duncan the Tall is the goat, probably the greatest incidental hero in the mythology
All according to the great plan.
I like that it was all bloodraven theory
the outro song lol
I think that ser Duncan drunkenly bet Aegon that he couldn’t bring back dragons. He won but after he heve taken Rhaela out of the Fire he run back in to claim his money from egg, but they both burned Fighting wether first try counted or not.
I bet Dunk will have to make a choice save Egg or save the lady going into labor.
Of course, Aerion named his Maegor 😅
Maybe it was a assassination attempt against the Targaryen or against Aegon V for political reason or maybe the dream were send by someone to drive the crazy
What would be a great subversion would be yes stannis kills his daughter but the dragon is awakens is Danny who has a soft spot for children(under 14) that are used cruelly... so he'll wake a dragon...
What’s with the outdo song!
When I think of blood sacrifice....I think of Daemon killing Aemon...the gods eye boiled with dragons blood....also I feel like Rhaegar wouldn't be a good character if not for his perpetual grief...
True everyone loves a moody but motivated artistic underdog.
Was Bloodraven already the Three-eyed Raven at the time of Summerhall?
Presumably. He went to the Wall in 233 AC and disappeared in 252 AC. Summerhall was in 259 AC.
@@CrusaderChris so through dreams he orchestrated Summerhall so that Rhaegar if nothing else becomes the only heir to the throne and continue the bloodline, but failed to involve Aerys to kill him as well?
Didn't Aegon III hate dragons? Why did he call 9 maeges to hatch dragons?
A reason isn’t given, but maybe Aegon realized that he should set his hatred aside for the sake of his family and the strength of his dynasty.
I believe only Targaryen women could make the dragon eggs hatched because if you think about it. The Targaryen male's tried everything to hatch them but nothing happened
That's definitely a possibility with dragons linked to targaryen women futility .
I mean plenty of males had hatched dragon eggs prior to this..
@@jaredwat8478 names ?
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Jaehearys hatched Vermithor.
He placed an egg in his son Aemon’s cradle that probably hatched into Caraxes.
All of Rhaenyra’s sons with the exception of Viserys (II) hatched their eggs.
Aegon II’s son hatched his egg Shrykos
So by my count that’s at least 6 possibly 7 if Aemon hatched his egg.
@@jaredwat8478 those aren't targaryens hatching dragons those dragons are hatching by themselves they aren't effecting the process.
Just add that there are Targaryens that still alive!! They says might Jenny old-stones had children with Duncan. Also there is Maegor Targaryen, Aerion (Bright Flame son) where is he???
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I theorise, and this is just my imagination nothing else, that Rhae, Daella, Daenora, Vaella and there there three children (7 in total) Survived with the 7 newly hatched Targaryen dragons and escaped too Ashai. And this is why Quaithe keeps saying Daenerys needs to go to Ashai. Thus reuniting the old empire of the dawn to it former power. Or even creating a new Valyria. And in my own head Drogon could sense other Targaryen dragons in the east, Valyria or Ashai and took Daenerys there where she could be resurrected and return to her family. But, again this is my own speculation and wishful thinking, and has not truth or lore behind it at all. I just like the idea of house Targeryen and there dragons living on somewhere 🤷.
I would gladly offer myself as a sacrifice to bring the Mannis to his rightful place in the iron throne
Its just a prank bro!
15:25 please add more memes into your videos in the future 😂
i think he just did it all for the bit
When and or if after winds is released we NEED fire and blood 2 afterwords
And more Dunk & Egg too
Also, a lot of the dreams are metaphorical.
Bran saw jon cold skin like stone at the wall in his coma
Stannis does have Targaryen blood. Maybe he will have a botched ritual??
Its a great title and all but why the fuck did my brain read
"Samwell: The geatest Targeryan tragedy"
For everyone who thinks Tyrion Targaryen is too casual. Try Sam Targaryen. Would Sam's father really hate him if he was his true son ?
4:54 that doesnt make sense though, why would anybody share their knowledge about how to tame and ride dragons with some sheperds that could rise against them with their newly found dragons 😅
Fire and blood is how you make dragons. Kinda obvious
I think it was just a goof, just boys being boys
He did of an “STI” lmaoo wtf
I care 🙋🏻
So why are Robert, stannis and renly not dragon riders? They are also related to dany, so why did the try to kill her?
Why would they be? The Baratheon’s don’t have any eggs and Dany hatching hers was done through a magical event.
Robert hated every single targ for the crime of existing why on earth would he associate himself with what they're known for most?
How to NOT wake dragons 💀🤦🏻♂️
stannis aint sacrificing shireen.....selyse might. melisandre might. but stannis wont.
Considering George explicitly called it “Stannis’s decision to burn his daughter,” I expect this is how it will go down in the books. It wouldn’t have as much weight on Stannis’s character arc unless he makes the decision himself. We’ll have to see, though.
there is nothing in his character arc to suggest he would make that move. however if he faked his dead and Shireen was left without protection at the Wall especially after Jon Snows death, then i can see her being killed or sacrificed. especially considering Davos is also gone. George has said alot of things about this world. what he says changes as im sure you know.@@CrusaderChris
20 minutes of yip yap and only 4 minutes are useful
Gag who is this loser
I can't believe that Stannis would ever do something like that. 🥲🥲