i am with you! first step for me was seeing if it was even worth using this setup, next step is testing some anamorphic stuff, then i am totally all in on doing low light testing
@@ReachFilms that would be exciting. I’m looking for someone who’s done some tests with the Blazar 35mm (the deals look so good right now). Will be tuning in when you do.
Man I’m trying to decide if I should make the move on this sppedbooster and sacrifice the AF… the frame opening up the crop is probably the biggest selling point for me, even above the stop of light.
i know right??? i think for the most part i canalize without the AF because projects i would use this for i wouldn't need it anyways, next step is testing my anamorphic adapter with this setup
Thank you so much for all your in real life testings for a bunch of these lenses and adapters@@ReachFilms! I just got my FX30 this week so you and a bunch of other RUclipsrs have been extremely helpful this past week. Can't wait to see the anamorphic test!
Here' a cool idea I'd love to see you try: you could adapt the micro 4/3 .64x adapter to Sony using the 30-dollar Fotodiox adapter... it wouldn't have any electronic connection, but it would be kind of awesome to get that much light and FOV on the raw mode for the fx30!
Great stuff. BTW, I tried the locking cine version of the M43 to EF .64 Speedbooster a few years ago and the locking mechanism wasn't compatible with lenses with a rubber gasket. Based on that experience, if people plan to use photo lenses with weather sealing, I'd recommend getting the regular version like you have
Hey Geoff thanks for the super helpful video! I'm currently sweating trying to choose between fx30+speedbooster or fx3 - I wonder how close the FX30 w SB gets in terms of field of view to the FF FX3, wish I could see that - Is it a big difference do you recon? Many thanks!
Bro I have a doubt, my camera is full frame but I have APSC lenses, obviously when I activate the crop it is multiplied by 1.5 what I want to know, if I put the speedbooster to my fullframe with an apsc lens is closer to the focal length of the lens example (18-35apsc in full frame is a 27-52mm) with the SB would be closer to the 18, is it true? I need to get out of these doubts. And thank you very much
I assisted on a shoot this weekend and the DP did something similar. The footage was better than my Sony body and native lens. Kind of frustrated because I bought a bunch of e mount lenses and to even use this approach I would need canon lenses. SMDH.
Good video Geoff. Will using a Metabones speedbooster, or the Sigma one, can I use full-frame lenses and get similar looking results despite the Super35 /APS-c sensor of the FX30?
Thanks!! I don’t think the sigma has a speedbooster, but yes if you film in the normal raw modes you will get the “full frame” look on the fx30 when using the speedbooster
@@ReachFilms Thanks for the quick reply. From your experience how much of a hit does the autofocus take when using the Metabones speedbooster? I'm saving up to get an FX30 later this month, and my only real worry is the low-light performance. Having an extra stop of light from a speedboster would help out with that I imagine.
The speedbooster makes your camera a low light beast.. But the autofocus is slow.. When I first bought it, the autofocus did not work.. After firmware updates, it does work now, but it is slow.
Sorry, of course! Yes I remember. Why is you shoot in ProRes RAW? It seems like the internal 10 bit is as good when converted to the sort of RAW format? @@ReachFilms
@@andrewwoffinden8671 the only raw format right now is ProRes raw, and then I use assimilate to convert the ProRes raw to CDNG raw so I can edit in davinci
This may be a dumb question but I use mostly e-mount lens for my FX30 and I was wondering if a speed booster is needed for native lens or is just to adapt lens to e-mount?
Unfortunately, for the whole RAW video set up it isn’t good for run & gun filming as being able to just use the camera with a lens. You have a lot more going on with the set up so in order to do the tests especially weight wise. I had to be as efficient as possible because it still took longer than you think.
@@ReachFilms Sounds like excuses. My FS7 MkII with kit is around 15 lbs. It actually makes for a smooth steady shot. Again, get outside your comfort zone. Experiment and more people will tune in. ✌🏼
@@f0t0b0ybro I show the setup, the fs7 can be operated handheld, this setup can’t really . Nothing to do with comfort zone. Again look at the camera setup in the video to understand what I’m talking about. If I had a shoulder rig setup and a different way to mount the monitor? Maybe, but you made a comment and I’m being brutally honest. This video was not supposed to be some sexy ad it’s straight up supposed to be a test with the image quality of using raw and a speedbooster or not. You are looking for a completely different video
Hopefully constructive criticism is ok. This video is almost unwatchable for me because of the jittering. When I see this, it's normally because of 24fps. I don't know if you used 24p, but it's a super common biproduct of that. People tout 24p as king, but it literally makes me queazy on RUclips. I really wish folks would stop listening to that advice. It's only cinematic at the cinema. on a 60, 120, or 240hz display, it's just missing frames and becomes janky. I swear this is no criticism to you or your content. Please look into shooting in divisions of 30 and do some tests to see if you can see what I mean. There really isn't anything wrong with smoothness. If you aren't even using 24, and maybe cranking the shutter please forgive. I just want you to know that it is noticeable. God bless. Note: I have gigabit internet and a very fast set of computers both Mac and PC, and a couple of high framerate TV's in which to view content and it's the same on all, here and away from home. Again Thanks for all you do.
Hey! Yeah man as long as you are respectful (which you totally are) write what you want! The main thing is, most people who use this raw video mode are not making videos for RUclips, so to film it in 30p doesn’t really help as they (and I) will be filming in 24p for client/commercial/doc work. So although in some cases on RUclips it looks weird since it favors 30p, it’s not genuine to show content that would be captured in 24p, and film 30p instead just for RUclips. Again RUclipsrs are not really going to film on this kind of setup as it’s the law of diminishing returns
@@ReachFilms that is a very good point. I did not consider that. Recognizing the final resting place for the content must be a consideration. Thanks for pointing that out.
Ive watched this video in all my 8 displays around my house (tvs, monitors, gaming, cellphones) I cant see what you are speaking about. Let creators create.
@eddieriosyt It's ok. Some people are very sensitive to framerates. Believe me when I say you don't want to see it, because once you do, it ruins a ton of otherwise beautiful content. Gerald Undone has a very detailed video explaining the phenomenon. Big studios have calculators that they use to minimize the effect because the effect is common. It's definitely a thing. The author of this video knows that I mean no disrespect.
Should give this a go in more low-light situation. Would love to see this and how it handles noise.
i am with you! first step for me was seeing if it was even worth using this setup, next step is testing some anamorphic stuff, then i am totally all in on doing low light testing
@@ReachFilms that would be exciting. I’m looking for someone who’s done some tests with the Blazar 35mm (the deals look so good right now). Will be tuning in when you do.
Man I’m trying to decide if I should make the move on this sppedbooster and sacrifice the AF… the frame opening up the crop is probably the biggest selling point for me, even above the stop of light.
i know right??? i think for the most part i canalize without the AF because projects i would use this for i wouldn't need it anyways, next step is testing my anamorphic adapter with this setup
Thank you so much for all your in real life testings for a bunch of these lenses and adapters@@ReachFilms! I just got my FX30 this week so you and a bunch of other RUclipsrs have been extremely helpful this past week. Can't wait to see the anamorphic test!
Here' a cool idea I'd love to see you try: you could adapt the micro 4/3 .64x adapter to Sony using the 30-dollar Fotodiox adapter... it wouldn't have any electronic connection, but it would be kind of awesome to get that much light and FOV on the raw mode for the fx30!
I like where your heads at! I don’t have a x64 adapter anymore, but if I find someone who has it I would be interested to try for sure
just want to know how is this apsc camera + a speed booster + a apsc lens work in normal 4k mode? does it have a vignetting?
I did a video on that about a year ago
aight will go and check it out! nice video btw 🙏@@ReachFilms
Dude you just discovered the hack of the century for the fx30.
i think so too!!!! can't wait for the anamorphic adapter tests with this sigma 50-100
Great stuff. BTW, I tried the locking cine version of the M43 to EF .64 Speedbooster a few years ago and the locking mechanism wasn't compatible with lenses with a rubber gasket. Based on that experience, if people plan to use photo lenses with weather sealing, I'd recommend getting the regular version like you have
That’s awesome to know Phillip thanks! Had no clue that was an issue
Hey Geoff thanks for the super helpful video! I'm currently sweating trying to choose between fx30+speedbooster or fx3 - I wonder how close the FX30 w SB gets in terms of field of view to the FF FX3, wish I could see that - Is it a big difference do you recon? Many thanks!
Hey! So the difference is super 35 so it would be the normal non raw fx30 field of view vs the fx3
Bro I have a doubt, my camera is full frame but I have APSC lenses, obviously when I activate the crop it is multiplied by 1.5 what I want to know, if I put the speedbooster to my fullframe with an apsc lens is closer to the focal length of the lens example (18-35apsc in full frame is a 27-52mm) with the SB would be closer to the 18, is it true? I need to get out of these doubts. And thank you very much
I would only use a speedbooster in that situation if you are using a camera with a crop or mode smaller than apsc with apsc lenses
Why sigma won’t make mc-11 with a focal reducing lens.. that would be perfect 👌
That would be pretty cool
I assisted on a shoot this weekend and the DP did something similar. The footage was better than my Sony body and native lens. Kind of frustrated because I bought a bunch of e mount lenses and to even use this approach I would need canon lenses. SMDH.
Have you messed with the Ninja Ultra any? Ive been wondering if the FX30 could spit out a full sensor read out at 6k.
As of right now only raw option is the 4.7k crop, maybe that will change someday
Good video Geoff. Will using a Metabones speedbooster, or the Sigma one, can I use full-frame lenses and get similar looking results despite the Super35 /APS-c sensor of the FX30?
Thanks!! I don’t think the sigma has a speedbooster, but yes if you film in the normal raw modes you will get the “full frame” look on the fx30 when using the speedbooster
@@ReachFilms Thanks for the quick reply. From your experience how much of a hit does the autofocus take when using the Metabones speedbooster? I'm saving up to get an FX30 later this month, and my only real worry is the low-light performance. Having an extra stop of light from a speedboster would help out with that I imagine.
The speedbooster makes your camera a low light beast.. But the autofocus is slow..
When I first bought it, the autofocus did not work.. After firmware updates, it does work now, but it is slow.
Thanks, super interesting! I'd be really interested in a comparison between "internal raw" and the 12 bit raw from the Atomos recorder.
I actually did that already vid is up on the main page
Sorry, of course! Yes I remember. Why is you shoot in ProRes RAW? It seems like the internal 10 bit is as good when converted to the sort of RAW format? @@ReachFilms
@@andrewwoffinden8671 the only raw format right now is ProRes raw, and then I use assimilate to convert the ProRes raw to CDNG raw so I can edit in davinci
Only raw format for fx30***
Yes I mean the Internal 10 bit converted to the semi raw format.@@ReachFilms
Metabone just released a firmware update that improves autofocus... I love my speed poster, but hate the slow autofocus
I will check it out! Thank you
This may be a dumb question but I use mostly e-mount lens for my FX30 and I was wondering if a speed booster is needed for native lens or is just to adapt lens to e-mount?
its only for adapted lenses, so unfortunately native lenses can't use this method
Ping LOVES this video!!! Ping thinks Geoff is a superstar 🙌🙌 … and the lady too!!
Thanks Ping!
thank you, I am buying a speed booster!!!!
Please don’t tell me you had this stunning model and you only shot her looking back at the camera? Step outside your comfort zone and mix it up.
Unfortunately, for the whole RAW video set up it isn’t good for run & gun filming as being able to just use the camera with a lens. You have a lot more going on with the set up so in order to do the tests especially weight wise. I had to be as efficient as possible because it still took longer than you think.
@@ReachFilms Sounds like excuses. My FS7 MkII with kit is around 15 lbs. It actually makes for a smooth steady shot. Again, get outside your comfort zone. Experiment and more people will tune in. ✌🏼
@@f0t0b0ybro I show the setup, the fs7 can be operated handheld, this setup can’t really . Nothing to do with comfort zone. Again look at the camera setup in the video to understand what I’m talking about. If I had a shoulder rig setup and a different way to mount the monitor? Maybe, but you made a comment and I’m being brutally honest. This video was not supposed to be some sexy ad it’s straight up supposed to be a test with the image quality of using raw and a speedbooster or not. You are looking for a completely different video
Hopefully constructive criticism is ok. This video is almost unwatchable for me because of the jittering. When I see this, it's normally because of 24fps. I don't know if you used 24p, but it's a super common biproduct of that. People tout 24p as king, but it literally makes me queazy on RUclips. I really wish folks would stop listening to that advice. It's only cinematic at the cinema. on a 60, 120, or 240hz display, it's just missing frames and becomes janky. I swear this is no criticism to you or your content. Please look into shooting in divisions of 30 and do some tests to see if you can see what I mean. There really isn't anything wrong with smoothness. If you aren't even using 24, and maybe cranking the shutter please forgive. I just want you to know that it is noticeable. God bless. Note: I have gigabit internet and a very fast set of computers both Mac and PC, and a couple of high framerate TV's in which to view content and it's the same on all, here and away from home. Again Thanks for all you do.
Hey! Yeah man as long as you are respectful (which you totally are) write what you want! The main thing is, most people who use this raw video mode are not making videos for RUclips, so to film it in 30p doesn’t really help as they (and I) will be filming in 24p for client/commercial/doc work. So although in some cases on RUclips it looks weird since it favors 30p, it’s not genuine to show content that would be captured in 24p, and film 30p instead just for RUclips. Again RUclipsrs are not really going to film on this kind of setup as it’s the law of diminishing returns
@@ReachFilms that is a very good point. I did not consider that. Recognizing the final resting place for the content must be a consideration. Thanks for pointing that out.
Ive watched this video in all my 8 displays around my house (tvs, monitors, gaming, cellphones) I cant see what you are speaking about. Let creators create.
@eddieriosyt It's ok. Some people are very sensitive to framerates. Believe me when I say you don't want to see it, because once you do, it ruins a ton of otherwise beautiful content. Gerald Undone has a very detailed video explaining the phenomenon. Big studios have calculators that they use to minimize the effect because the effect is common. It's definitely a thing. The author of this video knows that I mean no disrespect.
@MindzEyz a true gentleman 👏 you handled yourself with class