Can I Make Capoeira Work?
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Lol I thought Aikido was considered the worst martial art? At least capoeira kicks have some knockouts in the UFC
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Capoiera "street" fight.
May you try buagua Zhang next?
@@chriscordero-torres9095 at least with aikido i know how to kill a dozen attackers that also have weapons.
people tend to forget that aikido has deep roots in weapons training.
not to mention positioning.
name three other martial arts that teach you evasion in a battle field.
what styles commonly used in MMA train and teach you the best way to go about that situation?
they just plainly dont. until you start delving into krav maga and systema. which are commonly viewed as just as much bullshido as aikido.
take whta you can from a martial art and apply whta you can to the street.
aikido is essentially a manual on how to convert what ever martial arts you know, and translates them into real world scenario.
@@dbspaceoditty at least with aikido i know how to kill a dozen attackers that also have weapons.
I smiled when Juan Pablo talked about feints and trickiness. That's something a lot of people don't know about when it comes to Capoeira. It's not just about flips or tricks. That's the artistic, expressive, showmanship aspect. The real Capoeira is the trickiness. It's kicks that come from different angles and in tight spaces. It's sweeps, trips, headbutts, and palm strikes.
Edit: Thanks for the thumbs up folks. Just to add on, I've seen good capoeiristas use that trickiness. I've seen old capoeistras distract someone in the roda and then trip them because they weren't looking. Now, Capoeira has its flaws. Every martial art does. But to say it can't be used at all? That it doesn't work? I disagree with that.
to be honest I feel like this is true in any martial art or sport even, at higher levels. I do judo and it's the same thing, trying to deceive your opponent
Wow I didn't knew that you used headbutts
The people who can use flips and tricks appropriately in a roda are seriously impressive. They can already throw basic kicks and evade attacks enough against their opponent they can afford to show off a bit. It's like a boxer dropping their hands because they are confident they can bob and weave around incoming punches.
I think the idea that any traditional martial arts doesn't work is nuts as they have all been used to beat people up historically. What may be true is that some traditional martial arts training doesn't work to learn actual fighting. But that is not the actual styles fault, it's a flaw of the modern versions training.
Capoeira training isn't that bad as it's pretty close to normal sparring, it's just that the focus is on both evading the others attacks, but how close or hard the one attacking tries to hit makes a lot of difference. The less easy the participants goes the closer it comes to regular sparring.
I saw a clip from what looked like an amateur MMA match where a capoeira guy threw out a roundhouse that his opponent dodged, but immediately took a second one to the face from the other foot so hard you could hear it from the back of the room.
I love how capoeira nowadays is usually viewed as just a harmless dance that used to be a martial art - because that's exactly what was always meant to happen. The disguise works to this day.
Exactly lol
"Every language has poetry; not every speaker is a poet."
Seeing Sensei Seth start to put the concepts together and express himself using the language of other arts is so awesome! Thank you so much for being open, willing, and truly connecting with the "art" of each martial art you try.
"A bottle, must I?
Kick I should I Think? Yes I Kick.
Kicking The Bottle, good." 👍
-A haiku for Seth.
@@emissaryofelohim1431 Reminds me of a quote from HippoCrit's Rayman review.
"Unfortunate, is it?"
"*HABIT*, does he?"
"SQUASHED, AM I!?"
@@jurtheorc8117 My friend, do you mean?::: “Let Food Be Thy Medicine and Medicine Be Thy Food.” or often misquoted for it “The food you eat can be either the safest and most powerful form of medicine or the slowest form of poison.” by a lady Ann something with an M. Magpie idk... I degrees. I agree.
@@jurtheorc8117 Good form.
@@jurtheorc8117 Ann Wigmore*
"I don't have a cool nickname" bro, you're the Chubby Surprise
He's gotta see this one this needs more likes 😂
No the chubby surprise is my secret move!!
Haha can you make a video for the chubby surprise?
#MyCoolJingaBroNickPick:
... #BuddyDharma...?
well, your nickname is only given to you once when you have progressed far enough in capoeira training by the rest of your group... but, I guess chubby surprise coudl be a good one :D
My hardest fight (sparring) EVER was against Capoeira dude. It was light sparring and gradually adding speed and power. The dude could "clip" me from any angle you can imagine. Not huge power but enough to stop your advance and cause pain and unbalance. In terms of "amount of strikes succeeded / amount of strikes attempted" against me, definitely hardest to defend. It does not blow your head off like a pro boxer, but man it eats up your stamina and then.. it starts to hurt, starts hitting you in places you do not think to defend
Yeah i highly doubt that lol. Theres nothing effecient about this "fighting" style, any grappler worth their salt would take a capoeira dude to the ground faster than whatever dance moves he can show off.
@@Jarl_egbert Erm.. where did I said anything about grappling? I have no idea about ground work, only throws and sweeps
@@Jarl_egbert lmao says someone who neve sparred
@@Jarl_egbert have you ever met someone and sparred someone who utilized capoeira before? Did you know there some mma fighters in or previously were in UFC and Belletor MMA who uses capoeira kicks and techniques? I'm only asking since you do believe it's useless in you're opinion 🙃
@@Jarl_egberth in capoeira they also teach grappling technichs and ground fight mostly adapted from Brasilian Jiu jitsu but still part of the modern capoeira. A example of that techs is the scissor when you jump and grab your opponent with both your legs and rótate to throw him on the floor this tech get a lot fighters of guard because they just dont know that capoeira have such types of attacks is just that in a “roda” you ain’t seing people punching each other because it is not supposed to be a fight.
This and your attempts at adapting Capoeira into your style was exceptionally well done. The one flaw I noticed in your sparring attempts is that you have a tendency to stop right before you deliver a kick or punch. Capo is all about constant movement, and importantly, using the kinetic momentum from said movements to deliver attacks. Its likely due to your many years of studying karate, but its a habit you'll have to overcome. You will likely find greater success in the sparring sessions once you do.
Bro thats not karate thats good sparring he is stopping right before impact cuz its sparring its not fighting
@@itiswhatitis5667 Exactly! I was actually really impressed by him consistently pulling his kicks so he wouldn't hurt his partner.
I think he was winded
@@rusochileno639 ...I'm not an expert, or an amateur, or a novice but since capoeira uses a lot of full body movements it feels like stopping all of that momentum at once during a spar would get you winded really easily. I remember hearing once that when you spar in capoeira us intentionally just move slower to lessen the impact rather than trying to stop to motion.
@@monsterking7676 Like using crescent kicks in sparring. Don’t stop the movement, slow down, hit the shoulder, or don’t make contact by a small amount.
I don’t know can you
Sassy
I know can you hes a very nice guy
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Where there is a will, there is a way,....
To potentially fail. Or maybe not.
You never know. That Chubby Surprise can definitely impress. Put no man in a box.
the only reason this is so funny is because of the entire profile💀😭
Capoeira builds cardio, coordination, flexibility, explosiveness, and the ability to read the partner's movements. I bet a good capoeirista can transition easily to any combat sport.
In Brasil, most people know how effective capoeira can be. And the few ones who doubt, it's just a matter of time before they cross paths with the wrong (or right?) capoeirista.
Powerful kicks, a lot of variation, and superb fitness work. The guy will not stay dancing right in front of you. Before you realize, your ribs are history.
As a Muay Thai practitioner, I just don't wanna mess with capoeiristas.
Laughing and imaging get your ass whopped by man who you fought was just dancing
@@jacobharris954 That's what makes being brazilian so awesome: We can beat asses while dancing or playing football.
@@thalesonic nossa maior vantagem
É muito doido pensar que a Capoeira serviu tão bem ao seu propósito que até hoje não é levada como arte marcial séria por alguns não praticantes
believing your lies is fatal.
"Capoeira is treachery" - Mestre (Master) Bimba. I trained in Capoeira for just one year when I was much younger, and it still influences my karate today. The idea that you "play" with your opponent is a huge element of the art. Karate often has things like Gohan Kumite or drills where you are trying to match your opponent's timing in a safe and structured drill. Capoeira is almost always done with a partner, so it's all about timing - and working with someone else - so that you learn to react to their movements, and when you can interrupt them with your own.
And while I won't pull out ginga or a cartwheel in a sparring session, Capoeira footwork gave me a fluidity and lightness of movement I continue to incorporate. Thanks Seth for going back to this and putting yourself out there! Capoeira cardio is no joke...
Both are equally worthless fighting styles.
@@Jarl_egbert ok. Now fight them head on
@@Jarl_egbert A Capoeirista defeated the creator of Gracie JJ not just a Judoka (Kimura). Mestre Bimba, much like Mas Oyama's open tournament Kyokushin Karate, had a team of Capoeristas back in the early 20th century that'd bring around in open competitions. Hence creation of Vale Tudo ("anything goes"). Capoeira was used in war of Paraguay on the frontlines. Its not a worthless fighting style. And neither is Karate. Just that you have a worthless opinion.
No “fighting style” is worthless. Fightings styles are either kickboxing, grappling, and wrestling. All martial arts that have potential for use in combat have some combination or exclusion of those 3. Caporiea is for sure a kickboxing style first and foremost, not sure if there’s any grappling in there though, but if it was used in war there has to be some applications to grapple
@@Jarl_egbertdo some research as to why they exist and try to say that again when ur not ignorant about it
My first martial art was capoeira. I actually credit it for having good footwork and balance in my striking and a lot of confidence in my kicks. I also felt strong from angles that a lot of strikers weren't used to. The creative sparring in the roda also gave you a chance to heavily practice fakes, feints, and misdirection. I threw a lot of spinning attacks too because of my training. It can be very useful if you know what to extrapolate.
It always so captivating when you hear a Master of a specific martial art style give their philosophy, their mindset and advice on how to utilize it to your advantage! Great content Seth!
Made me look up a capoeria school near me haha.
"Recapoeria" spoke to me a spiritual level
Capoeira kicks can blend very well into TKD and Karate. My personal favorite is that hand to the ground spin hook. The amount of power you can generate from these "dance moves" is insane.
It's called meia lua de compasso or compasso for short. It is a narly kick to get hit with. I've seen orbital bones get broken from this kick.
@@speedygonzales3247 nice! Here in Brazil we call it a rabo de arraia but I'm fairly sure we are talking about the same stuff.
@@guilhermegoldman probably due to lost in translation type things, I'm in Grupo Capoeira Brasil and all the mestres speak portuguese, and they still call it meia lua de compasso! Could be different names dependent on region?
The Capoeria version of a round kick (Martelo) is a very effective and sneaky kick becaue unlike Karate or Muay Thai's round kicks, it goes straight up and angled, almost like a fake front kick, but t slaps upwards 45 degrees so instead of the target being the side of person's head which can easily be blocked by the forearms, this goes straight in and up, thus breaking the fighter stance defense better. I'm surprised more MMA guys arent aware of its effectivness. its a nasty kick for sure.
@@budgiecat2885 martelo is literaly the same as a karate's mawashi-geri. You must be thinking about a different kick.
Seems to me like it's great for keeping you in shape. Juan Pablo looks stacked yet shredded.
Capoeira's helped my life in so many ways, especially at work. I'm a plumber and spend most of my days crouched down or in confined spaces, and the movements I've learned in capoeira have helped me find better ways to move in those spaces. Obviously I'm not busting out big ass kicks while installing a water heater but if I'm in a crawlspace or working on drains or something I have much easier ways of maneuvering that don't put as much stress on my body
Seth might not be a capoeira expert, but he did try, and was incorporating it. His application of some of the moves, started to become second nature, as he became more comfortable with them. Practice makes perfect for a reason, and albeit a bit out of his comfort zone, he still started to flow as time and practice progressed. Like Bruce Lee said "be like water", because it can shape and mold itself to be anything, and can be gentle or crash with enormous force. Shape the skills that you learn to work for you alone, and use those skills to either be gentle or forceful in their application for use. Be like water Seth, and keep the videos coming.
He should try it with Abada Capoeira
I really like how Juan described martial arts. It's an art form not fighting itself. It's like the difference between using a brush, which is a form of painting, and saying that it's superior to finger painting which is also a form of painting.
Fighting is just attacking and defending. Martial Arts are just the tools we use to fight.
“recap…oeira” me quebrou muito KKKKKKKKKKKK tive que pausar o video pra rir
love from brazil!💕🇧🇷
Love the theory Juan Pablo talks about. That in real situations, of course you're not going to do capoeira jinga and pretend you're dancing, of course you don't go lie on your back for a BJJ guard, you'll do what is needed to defend yourself.
As a karate trained person, there are the forms we all know with that straight punch and that rear fist coming back by the side with the elbow coming backwards: the typical "karate punch." But that rear fist, elbow back thing only has a hint of use in theoretical situations, and is more of a form for practicing technique. Likely it's never a form you'd strictly do "to the T" in a fight, it would never help to do that. You'd want that hand up for guarding, proper defense that suits the situations etc.
I love the breakdown Juan Pablo gives about it, that these martial arts forms are not rigid things to be adhered to and stiffly judged on "practicality" of the practice forms. It's great stuff.
Another aspect of Capoeira's development I've heard, the slaves often had their hands in chains, so had to focus on using the legs.
I've done Tai Chi push hands and Wing Chun Chi Sao, when I played with a good Capoeira Angola, it was like push body/sticky body, he read and matched my movements then would slip in with a kick, foot sweep, or take down.
May not be the quickest path to practical self defense but don't sleep on what it has to offer (which includes the best looking women of any martial art I've practiced)
The "chained hands" thing is actually a myth. Capoeira uses a lot of kicks and not many hand strikes for two reasons: First, because it was originated by a culture of people who believed from a spiritual perspective that the hands should be used to create, and the feet should be used to destroy. Second, because those people weren't trying to beat someone up in a one-on-one fight in a ring- they were trying to deal with roving slave patrols who wanted to capture them alive, and the best way to keep six armed men away from you long enough to get away is to use big, sweeping kicks, lots of dodging, and weird confusing footwork to open up space around you.
Most of the really nasty stuff that's done with the hands came later, when gangsters were fighting the cops (and each other) in Rio. Eye gouges, groin shots, claps to the ear, straight razors... the same streetlighting stuff you see everywhere. But you don't see that kind of thing in a capoeira roda, because it's not meant to be a fight (or to look like one). The roda isn't meant so much to teach you HOW to defend yourself, as it is to teach you how to think ABOUT defending yourself (and some helpful tools for doing so.)
Capoeira is an interesting martial art and one that I really enjoy. It's got some cool kicks that you can surprise an opponent with, and from a conditioning standpoint it's great for cardio and flexibility.
As a MMA student with capoeira back ground the things that i found work is meia lua de compasso, Martelo tado, Tesaura de Costa, tesaura de frente, vingativa, and martelo from negativa
Yeah man, those sneaky martelos and chapeau de couros are nasty. When guys only train to throw a kick from one stance, it just doesn't occur to them that it could come from a crouch until it's too late.
Tesoura*
@@MonkeyAndChicken chapéu*
Capoeira is a very hard art to learn, the fluidity that's necessary to do the movements instinctively takes a very long time, so capoeira practitioners are super patient, especially the teachers haha
As someone who trains capoeira every day for 2 hours a day, I can say this art can be used in combat if done correctly
Really? How old are you?
Better learn kickboxing. You learn it Soo much faster then this.
@@CalculonTV You wouldnt learn capoeira strickly for easy quick methods of fighting. More so if your into the culture looks and enjoy a work out with heavy cardio and just so happen to want to be able to hit stuff.
@@theeyeofmango Thats True. As long as it isn’t promoted as a martial arts for self defense I’m good with it. The culture, the music, the dance and flexibility are definitely great. But if someone looks for an easy to learn highly effective martial arts they shouldn’t start with capoeira. That’s what I tried to say
I would say it seems easy to learn, but after multiple years of training you would understand it takes years to refine and master. My teacher (mestre) has trained for 28 years and still does not have the final belt. He is three belts from the final belt and will be working on it for at least 8 more years @Lolometer123
I did Capoeira for a few years, it’s definitely one of the best martial arts for cardio and I loved the acrobatic aspects of it too. The floor was always wet with sweat (I know, kind of gross..) after a training session…thanks for this one, Seth, it takes me back some years..
My man, i love seeing your capoeira videos and comparing to my training here in Brazil, understanding how you and other martial artists see and understand capoeira trying to adapt it to your one styles
From a foundation of capoeira, someone can transition to kickboxing easily because it’s going from hard to easy. A capoeira maestro Edna Limas of NY is also an astounding shotokan karateka. Her kicks are unstoppable, not because of power alone, but because of timing and distance control.
Marcus "lolo" aurelio is definitely the person I've seen actually most effectively work capoeira into a mma setting. A lot of guys may get one or two kicks they learn in occasionally but he still trained it as his main fighting style.
The nickmane is "Lelo" or Barraozinho (capoeira nickname), he is the son of Mestre Barrao from Axé Capoeira.
@@rafaelamadormartinez410 ya autocorrect for some reason thought it was lolo and changed it, didnt even realize haha. 👍✌
if its mma what about michel pereira? he doesnt knock out everyone, but he does fight like a predator, even jumping around and using the barriers as support to close in on evading adversaries. due has a mean kick, and he isnt afraid of literaly flipping on top of downed opponents. hell, i think on his last defeat, he got out due to being disqualified for a nasty knee to the face in a fight he was pretty much winning otherwise.
also, i dont think he did it out of malice, it was just the guy was going down and he ended up kneeing his face instead of his torso.
lots of kicks, spins and feints.
Did you have a bad experience with the Krav school? Many schools have low or bad reputation for various reasons (usually watered down stuff or trying to appeal to a market that it may not be for initially). I had the chance to go to a good one and very much liked the experience and definitely has help me grow as a martial artist. Lots of live contact, resistance training. Coming from more of a traditional point system Karate it was a world of difference. I tried other KM schools, it was not the same. Something was missing, the intensity
@@revariox189 To me KM was a petty decent experience, my parenthetical notes were intended to describe my headspace about each rather than the instruction. I was drawn into KM alongside a group of folks who were effectively just larping as operators. But from the time spent doing each, my experience was that playing capoeira in a roda conditioned reactions involving range and motion in a way that the KM live contact and surprise situations didn't match up to. KM obviously taught other useful skills that capoeira doesn't have any context to cover. Often folks say capoeira is inapplicable or useless, but the body awareness it develops is IMO super valuable and underrated. I think Juan Pablo spoke really well in delineating this element, and I was glad to see Seth focus on those aspects in the sparring! Of course we expect fairness from Seth, but he could have just badly cartwheeled himself into a punch or something for the lols.
I truly 100% agree with the statement at the end. Every martial art has a different answer. The student who trained well at a good school is going to have that answer.
Amazing video! Thanks for giving Capoeira a shot of understanding. I really liked how you realized the portion of any attack can come at any time while just moving and also realizing how tired you got. It's a completely different kind of fitness. I feel like a superhero. Games usually go on for 10 minutes at a time and sometimes on your birthday. An hour haha.
Birthday rodas are the worst... And of course EVERYONE shows up to class that day too...lmao
@@bentinho Haha really depends. The energy of the capoeiristas makes a difference. Also when it's Mestres birthday then it's always a good one. (;
For 2 capoeira classes you were doing damn good, you didn't get kicked in the head like you were worried about
Salute Sensei Seth for exploring Capoeira in this aspect. As a capoeirista I think that it is important for us to have these kinds of discussions and exploration. if I am ever in your neck of the woods I would really like to work on some things with you.
Hey Da'Mon, funny running into you in the youtube comments sections! I'd love to train together again soon. I'll be in touch!
@@shadowsaiyan what's up! I heard you were in the ATX? Yeah let's get together soon!
@@DaMonStith Yep! For sure!
There are many reasons why I still appreciate and love Capoeira for its rich history, martial art, music, and playfulness. Seth, you gotta work on your flexibility and Capoeira will definitely give you that and fluidity. You can definitely apply that to Karate and any other types of Martial Arts you do. Capoeira embraces a lot of fluid movements, but with power once you understand how to shift your weight on the ground or in the air. Continue to practice it! Peace!
Getting into your opponents head is a massive part of capoeira to me. The scissor takedown, and banda's are so important against mixed martial artists.
It’s always important to know the history of martial arts, especially traditional ones like capoeira in order to see how it has developed in modern age.
One can definitely use capoeira principles in spar or real life scenarios, if taught properly.
*Chubby surprised* (I can say that because I’m also Seth size)
Anderson Silva and Marcus Aurelio uses Capoeira in MMA. The latter using it as his main style, and it deff works🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I used to assume that since Capoeira was created with the huge constraint of having to not look like fighting, that it wouldn't be able to compete with other, more straight-forward martial arts. Then a military buddy told me about the time he sparred with a Capoeirista, and how difficult it was. He said that every time he threw a punch, the other guy simultaneously dodged it and threw a kick from some weird, unexpected angle. There may have been a mismatch in years of training, but the Capoeirista mopped the floor with my friend, and my threat level assessment of Capoeira instantly went up quite a few notches.
Sounds pretty accurate. Every kick in capoeira has a dodge (or esquiva as we call it) built into it. Dodging, escaping, and maintaining your freedom to move (more so than pounding people into submission) are really the main objectives of capoeira.
In the roda, you can kick a guy as many times as you want, but you only "win" the game by putting him on his butt, or pushing him out of the circle. The game is more about outsmarting your partner or showing him up, than beating him up.
@@MonkeyAndChicken Now that I read about this, the capoeira game sounds like sumo. A lot less direct to be sure, but definitely similarities in trying to get your opponent out of bounds or on the ground.
Loved watching this video. The way you connected the key concepts of capoeira with what was lacking in your sparring felt like a short movie.
As a Brazilian that did capoeira for about 4 years and now is training boxing the whole sliding footwork is something i try to adapt everyday into my boxing, i think it is like a constant shuffle paired with dodging punches... although its not easy i feel like im faster on my feet than most of my peers with a similar boxing experience.
The way you explore these different arts is a huge inspiration. Big respect to capoeira, one of the sets I’ve wanted to try but no local instruction is available. This reminds me that it’s worth it to travel to experience it.
I think it could blend well with the karate you do. I could see it for its evasion and lower attack aspects. Watching you spar I saw a few combo possibilities that would have flowed in from the combos I remember back when I took karate.
React to Marcus Aurelio "Barraozinho". He is one of the few that can make capoeira work in MMA
I like to use a darting jab + back step in sparring. One day I realized that this boxing footwork looks exactly like a ginga from capoeira. So now I like to use the darting jab + back step to set up the spinning heel kick.
It works great no one ever sees it coming, granted I'm in sparring doing this so I purposely try not to land a rough kick like that and try not to throw it with any real intention.
I noticed that too, sanchaei does that well hence he is so mobile, free and loose when sparrs or fights
It works as a complimentary art to BJJ or Luta livre, one of the scariest guys at the Gracie barra I train at is the local Capoeira Mestre, he's strong as hell and really flexible- he's a brown belt in BJJ. Some of the sweeps work for grappling. You see him doing Capoeira warm ups at BJJ tournaments.
do you see it as influencing BJJ at all? like is BJJ the anti Capoeira?
@@williambrame3337 Oh there are some sweeps and takedowns in BJJ that I think directly come from Capoeira.
I find that to truly understand Capoeira you need to spend a lot of time upside down. That's right, take everything you know about martial arts and turn it on its head. For most MAs, the apex of usefulness is proven in a symmetrical power situation. Same weight, same fight experience, get in the ring and show who can dominate. For Capoeira, it's asymmetrical. The origin story assumes a fighting environment in which your opponent has more power, more wealth, more recognition under the law, more weapons. You only win in this scenario by evading and sneaking away, turning your back to entice your opponent to get off his high horse and chase you through the dark alley so that he drops his guard and you can give him a heel to the temple.
Capoeira will never be as good as other martial arts at domination because that is not its focus. It's focus is liberation. First in liberation of the body and movement, and in liberation of the soul by giving you a different point of view as well as the physical tools to walk a non-linear path.
For you, Seth, I hope Capoeira helps you find new choices in sparring (and other places), so that the narrative you are creating stays enjoyable, well-grounded, and uniquely you.
You did way better then you think. It looks like if you keep practicing you can male a lot of that stuff work. And you kinda already did in this video. One recommendation when you get smothered go for clinching and throw techniques they are hidden within the forms
Yes, one hand on the floor and then scissor at the fulcrum of the hips of the opponents with your legs. They’re on the ground very quickly.
This is great, it really shows the unity between the three disciplines of music, dance and martial arts. They are all one discipline, if you choose to apply them as such.
I have to commend you Seth. I turn 40 in a couple of months and I've spent 25 of those years studying martial arts. About 13 of those in capoeira specifically, where I've traveled, met incredibly skilled people, taught... and you are doing very well. It's a style that can take time to embody and apply, even in the roda with other capoeiristas, let alone against other styles. It's a testament to your open mind and passion for martial arts! I hope you continue this series and learn about the hand techniques and (my favorites) -- the takedowns and sweeps.
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Yeah, I would love to see more takedown and sweeps. Muay Thai kinda has a similar takedown to the vingativa. And a spin banda I think he could've easily picked up the timing.
That 2nd-ish sparring clip where you did a low spin out with a low kick, looked beautiful. It's hard to see the range, but looked cool.
i never understood how music was truly incorporated into this system until this video and your sparring session. Rhythm truly is the foundation of the techniques in Capoeira. Without rhythm the fighter will have no control over the fight and advances in offense are read easily like a book. the level of calculation, mastery of technique, and precision in order to pull off Capoeira techniques seems insane to me. i enjoyed this video and loved a few of the concepts you thought about during sparring. Thank you and please do a part 2 if you can!
I've seen a fighter in the UFC actually using Capoeira, very impressive, his opponents have seemingly no idea how to deal with it. By far the most entertaining if not the most reliable and dependable.
Shout out to whoever chose breaking footage of bboy neguin who is a former red bell Bc one champion and all time bboy great, while also keeping his Brazilian roots.
Train Meia Lua de Compasso, work on your flexibility and go for head kicks with it and use it as an evasion attack. That kick can be very tricky and fast.
Close-up Capoeira isn't great, you can go for headbutts, slaps or throws.
This was fun to watch.
You did pretty good 👍.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
I absolutely loved that last speech from Juan Pablo. It’s something I absolutely agree with. There’s a difference between in training to fight with the martial art, the martial aspect, and just training in the art itself.
It’s rarely ever as simple as “The art is bad” it’s usually more so “The artist is bad”.
Edit*** Just looked at this again and I somehow missed the last part of your conversation. I think you hit the nail on the head there, capoeira isn't really about fighting its about dealing with life.
Nice one mate I always like a Capoeira video. I myself got into Capoeira after ten years of karate. Ironically it was joining a Capoeira club that led me to try my hand at Combatives and the more 'realistic' stuff. I used to jump in the car once a month and do a days training at my mates gym in Loughborough, then spend the rest of the month doing Capoeira 4 times a week. It was a very grounded style of Capoeira, not for fighting but while it was aesthetically impressive there were no flamboyant moves. I would note that a lot of the Brazillians I've trained with cross trained in BJJ and a few liked to box also. They used to do (and still do most likely) the emboscada tests for teaching grades. I was always a bit sore I never got to do one.
If you wanted to see what a lot of hands in capoeira is like you could do worse than look at some Muzenza competitions.
All in all though I've not met that many people who were good fighters through doing capoeira. I know a couple of good fighters who came and did capoeira. I sort of blame the whole cosmopolitan thing. In the UK at least. It started out a lot of karate lads liked to try capoeira for a bit, but it appealed more to people who liked dance and culture. The fighting side got eeked out if it was ever really introduced in the UK. That's my theory at any rate I was about ten years to late to that party. These days the vast majorty of people in capoeira (in my experience at least) can't fight and don't want to know how to. For myself I've always casually cross trained in kickboxing so I can normally sort of keep up appearances if I go to a not capoeira lesson. None of it is capoeira though its got to be said.
It is interesting when you get people coming from kickboxing and other styles and basically just doing that in a capoeira roda. I got sent flying by a big lad once who didn't realize I was marking moves in rather than blasting out take downs. And there was some kid once who came in a Tae Kown Doed on of the monitors to bits before leaving never to be seen again.
I think the one big gap in capoeira, or the corner of capoeira I've seen at least, is that it doesn't teach anyone how to use or deal with aggression. Again this is from my limited area of training, its very possible the scene is different outside of the UK.
I was interested to hear your mate there (sorry I'm terrible with names) cite the old 'disguised as a dance' theory for Capoeira. I've spoken to a couple of historians who aren't keen on that theory.
I always liked the theory that, much like savate in France, it originated from a physical game sailors played while at sea. This explains the ginga and kicks and evasive movements requiring one to put a hand on the ground: this just makes sense on an unstable sailboat. And like you said, in Brazil, they practice differently. I was with Abada, an OG school, but not one focused exclusively on fighting per se like Muzenza or Axé. And yet in Brazilian rodas between graduados and higher level practitioners I saw so many teeth knocked out due to flying headbutts; dropkicks that actually landed, full contact elbow, knee and head strikes at close range; wrestling and grappling till submissions; knockouts from all sorts of capoeira’s signature kicks and actual attempts at finishing off opponents on the ground with specialty kicks to the head (don’t even know how to describe them properly). Once, I was yelled at for only demonstrating a leg sweep on a newbie instead of following through it at full speed while we were playing on concrete floor (imagine the possible consequences for the newcomer if he had hit his head on that from my counter). All in all, they all cross-train in BJJ or luta livre since those are excelentes complements to capoeira’s long range striking and close range wrestling / headbutts / elbows. And they play HARD. Still, when it’s a game, the higher ranks manage to maintain continuity and fluidity, which always impressed me a lot
@@Limemill I like Acordeon's theory that it originated from the games played at market. The Specialized head stomp is called a Tortia I believe, if its the one I'm thinking of.
And ironically I got shinbone across the nose last night at training lol. Glad to know I can still shrug them off
It’s a martial art hidden in dance. I’m a practitioner and what I did was remove ginga for Muhammad Ali floating steps or Thai March and it became usable
what is remove ginga?
@@Turnpost2552 it’s the side to side dancing movement used in capoeira. It’s good for being flashy but not practical in real fights
dude your killing it when you get there ! this is lit work and the result is beautiful, the flow is tremendous.
Great video Seth! Seeing how other people complain about you pulling punches and kicks while sparring (I mean .. that's how sparring works..) I remembered your red turtle armor. If you still have it, you could find a volunteer (I suggest Icy Mike, he likes pain) and practice / test Capoeira at full power without the risk of injuries.
I feel as though this kind of technique has the same issue got a lot of people first learning it as bagua does. They both rely on being very mobile and it helps a LOT to think of the movements as more of a sweep rather than a strike. Both gain their power from rotational energy so having the mindset that you have to arc into those strikes might help you set the motion right as you're practicing.
Even if people don’t think it’s a super effective martial art, I think Capoeira is really cool to watch.
you improved a lot between your videos! great jobs!
I'd love to see more of your growth in capoeira! :D
Seth this video is so cool. You're a freak athlete and so good at communicating across martial arts so that all of us, from any martial arts background, can understand why each art developed how it did and how their foundations can be practical.
You should really check Barraozinho, he is a really good capoerista and mma fighter. He really puts capoeira into irl fighting and works really well !!
Love your videos man keep it going
props for digging deep and trying this out I have always been a fan of Capoeira but have never had anything like this around me to where I could learn it. Luckily I had wrestling and kickboxing around.
Ayee, always love seeing more Capoeira
Capoeirista iniciado here I also train kickboxing. In capoeira when people get too close you either trip, take them down, elbow them or flying-head-butt them if yo so fancy. The varius crescent kicks are really setups to enter grappling or the typical hard kicks like front, RH and brazilian kick. And when you use it to actually fight you drop the ginga and stand in like a philly shell with your backhand elbow in front of your chin so your arm covers both sides of it while the other can cover your squishies or is far from sight ready to bolo punch. The "use" of the ginga is to always be ready to move to "paralela" fast to enter grappling with a low and strong base. My two cents, hope you can apply some of it to your own game at least always move, more in circles than squares and always looking for angles.
Great video and good job using the techniques live! Love the gloves, I'm in need of some new ones! Gonna use your link!
Awesome! Thank you!
Sooo many great messages, ty Sensai Seth, oh and the thumbnail is fantastic!!
The movement patterns it added into your stuff was great, tbh.
In terms of integrating new techniques, you should try to find positions in the middle or at the end of those techniques already proficient to you. Then with much repetition you can smooth out the transition and integrate any style.
I have been training capoeira for the past year and a half and coming from a karate 'background' (was my 1st martial art) it has been interesting and quite fun. Your ability to quickly adapt to a different style and apply techniques in an actual sparing is amazing! (The things below are just a thought dump):
I haven't spared against a non-capoeira practitioner using capo techniques (in their modern form) but the "bunkai" I would say would look a bit like taido/drunken fist with legs 🤣 "drunken leg" lol. I would exchange the circular paths of kicks for more direct ones, or do them with a snapping motion, like a question mark kick. I would use punch to kick faints, for example fake a hook to a scorpion kick or a one leg scissors takedown. I would try to capitalize on dodges to turn them to a dodge kick and would aim at the body because it has a higher chance of connecting and the kicks are powerful so it would be still felt through a hand or at the knees/tights. If my leg gets caught I would maybe use a cartwheel or one handed L kick as a threat hoping for them to let go. If I get taken down to the ground with a sweep I would use an escape/kick like the kick you learned that makes my legs flail and results in me standing up in order to gain distance or prevent them from rushing in. I would use kicks with alternating directions because they are a bit tricky to deal with and would try to exploit angles that are provided by the unorthodox kicks to try and catch my opponent off guard. One thing i think I saw in Jessie's video about Taido, connecting strikes one after another and using them as a constant flowing setup is the way to go. By that I mean a kick, which flows to another kick, which flows to a punch, to a faint, to a kick and so on in order to overwhelm the opponent with kicks from all sides. Which makes little threats look big, because they are unknown. By all means things you applied in this video.
His words very very wise. I love his take on different martial arts
One of the few things I learned during my one lesson in capoiera(probably butchering that spelling) was that Jenga/jinga(probably butchering that to) was freedom of expression, not necessarily a set stance but building blocks to lead into your own movement, your own Jenga/jinga, from what I was told everyone has their own unique Jenga based off of what works for them and their Jenga is how they express it
If you like Capoeira, you should check out "Michel Pereira". He's currently a UFC Middleweight and got there by mainly using Capoeira and he's INSANELY skilled. Really entertaining fighting style (Using backflips, climb up the cage wall and dropkick opponent etc.) and he has a Capoeira background
So yeah, he definetely made it work
Are you serious? Did you mean Alex Pereira? and he got there by kickboxing.. mainly a left hook.
@@supreme5998 Yes I am serious, Yes I know Alex Pereira and No I did not mean Alex Pereira
@@ytho452 Oh sht, you're right. he's nuts. But I think he's competing at welterweight in UFC.
@@supreme5998 I think he changed weight classes. On Wikipedia it says hes a Welterweight & Middleweight
Two questions:
1. Do you feel like you are a better martial artist for having tried such a variety of arts while practicing muay thai and BJJ, or would you have been a better martial arts if you had only concentrated on muay thai and BJJ?
2. Have you considered doing Shodokan aikido (the competitive version)? I realize there may not be any nearby, as it's a fairly rare style, but just some food for thought.
You were really getting the hang of it by the end. Way to go!
This is a great intro video dude, love seeing you learn this stuff.
7:16 love a good montage! Liked that slipping lower inside leg kick @10:58 Always a style I recommend to people when they say; " I love the fluid movement of martial arts, but the aggression is too much for me". I suggest Capoeira because, with the festive environment its a wonderful way to be introduced to a group who wants the same things out of the art that they do
Learned capoiera for about a year and after each class, we have a roda session and it's amazing just how close combat we can be in. Learn how to move fast for evading and mock attacking ( There almost never a contact except for the seniors vs instructor)
having practiced capoeira for some years i have the stance that in itself it's not an efficient self defense system. but practicing it can help you a lot improving your skills in martial arts overall. overview, reaction, constitution, mobility...you are learning so much you can apply to other situations and fights.
As a capoeirista of 6 years, my biggest challenge was reading my opponent. Many would fake an easily defendable kick, only to switch it up and drop me on the next move. The fake was to move me into a position where they could easily put me into a takedown. That is one of capoeira's biggest strengths. Hard to understand, but awesome when you figure it out.
Great video! You can think of the music like the element that establishes the "ruleset" of the game. If you are interested in making capoeira more useful, Ramsey Dewey has some nice videos.
In regards to the range issue at around 5:20, capoeira also emphasizes moving incredibly close to opponents to sweep or takedown the opponent. Also there are elbows, knees, punches, slaps, etc.
On another note, since adding bjj to my repertoire, I feel openings to use capoeira far more often/realistically because of the emphasis on being low to the ground.
Not that this extra idea makes capoeira better, but guile is almost as mandatory for anyone practicing capoeira as rhythm is.
My teacher would add "it's not the kick you see that hits you". A lot of Capoeira is manipulating space to set up your attack. The one they see is meant to drive them into the one they don't see.
The crossover behind twist step footwork from Capoeira, although a "No No", and awkward for some, it can be used to set up killer spinning back, or hook kicks, among other amazingness.
A martial art similar to this one called Sanguar was used in 1500s Central Africa by the Kingdom of Ndongo specifically for warfare. Just like Capoeira, it involved dancing but Sanguar was mostly used for dodging. The Ndongo Kingdom didn't use shields thus it used Sanguar instead to dodge arrows, lances and sword attacks. It was documented to be very effective by the Portuguese.
Thank you for sharing this! If it's OK to ask, how did you learn about Sanguar? It's neat to see how it connects with Ndongo's history from what little I've learned about Queen Nzinga, but there's so little said and easily accessed about African Traditional Martial Arts. I've heard about Egyptian tahtib (pole combat)and some hand to hand combat being in the hieroglyphics which go back by about 5000 years but Africa is huge continent and that's a lot of time in between to be missing lol
@@IanTranSend I read of this from 2 materials. The first is; The Art of War in Angola by John Thornton.
The other is; Fighting for Honor; The History of African Martial Art Traditions in the Atlantic World by M. Thomas J. Desch-Obi.
The second book gives a detailed account of different martial arts in Africa.
@Badu this is wonderful to see so much scholarship being devoted to uplifting these histories and ongoing traditions. Thank you for sharing! I know several folks who would love to know this as they reconnect with their roots and what you've shared is probably an important part to a lot of other people's stories in their journeys too. Wishing you all the best with your path, wellness and learning. Thank you again!
I have loved this martial art ever since I saw the movie Only the Strong, starring Mark dacascos, way back in '94!
It would be awesome if Seth reacted to that movie on his other channel!
Capoeria in the south
52 blocks in the North
Awesome gloves and I did see how it can be used practically in a fight!
The dude who is a capoeira expert got some real wise words it got some touching in the heart bro
I always thought that capoeira is a joke, but in your sparring session, it showed potential, it just lacked power because your either stopped before kicks or you were unsure about what to do and slowed down. It would be interesting to see a video with you using capoeira movements to see how much power it generates compared to regular kicks
go check michel pereira, you gonna see some cool stuff in real ufc fight..
I’m not stopping kicks because i wasn’t sure what to do, I stopped them because it’s shitty to just whip kicks around and not care what you do to your sparring partners
Sensei Seth already did that. Look for this title in his videos:
What Martial Art Hits the HARDEST?
It's sparring, and Seth's big. He'd be a huge jerk if he just started slamming legs into people who are just practicing. Luckily, Seth's a nice and friendly guy so he doesn't ruin people's workout.
@@SenseiSeth Capoeiristas throw kicks very hard and fast in the roda, but we only throw them to the head, because we know our partner can dodge them. We don't kick to the body, because we don't kick to HIT with the kick. We kick like a chess player moves pawns. The exchanges are a conversation... everything is a setup. Set a rhythm, break a rhythm. Call and response. The game isn't exactly fighting, or even sparring- the strategy is much deeper. It's not about pounding your opponent until he breaks. It's about leading him to a place where he has no escape.
When we actually "win" the game, the opponent usually knows he's beaten long before he's on his butt. He knows the rasteira is coming and he's completely off balance. He knows he's about to get launched out of the roda because he jumped into a flying kick without knowing where the target was. He knows his face is barreling toward an oncoming foot and there's nothing he can do.... THAT's the kick we pull, because it's the deadly one, and at the end of the day, the guy in the roda is family.
Loved the video and thought you did a great job! It not an easy thing to change up your game and to integrate techniques that feel like you're breaking a lifetime of training instincts.
good insight on capoeira. i've never done it personally, but i didn't know it was a lot more effective than i thought.
Obrigado, sensei Seth! ;)
Should make a video on Capoeira Leg sweeps, takedowns and punches! 🙌🏼
It started to look pretty usefull at the end there. Good job Seth!
Is Capoeira effective? Im still on the fence but one thing i have noticed is you sometimes will see an out of shape Karateka but you really won't see a out of shape Capoeirista. Also my boy Eddy Gordo from Tekken.