GSXR Rectifier Replacement/Relocation
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2015
- How to remover, replace, and relocate your Rectifier/Regulator on a 2007 GSXR-750. VERY similar on most models/engine size GSXRs. After multiple failures due to heat from the terrible mounting location, I decided it was time to mount it somewhere smarter. If you're GSXR doesn't start, it's the Rectifier. They fail ALL THE TIME on these due to their location.
**UPDATE**
The bike now has WELL over 5000km on it with the relocated rectifier/regulator. Not a single issue with it at all. The charging system is putting out spec numbers without a single problem.
I appreciate the feedback Jason I ended up keeping my bike. I came to the conclusion that my reg/stator was frying due to failure of keeping a properly maintained battery so now I plug it in my trickle charger religiously each and every single time Im done riding. I also improved my relocation of the regulator by extending the unit out even further using my frame slider for maximum air flow. It sticks out quite a bit and looks sort of goofy but I dont care as long as it fixes the issue!!! I can send you a picture if you'd like, thanks for your help I appreciate it very much!
Perfect! Just got my hands on an old gxr 600 and immediately killed 2 batteries. First I replaced thinking it was just old, second died a couple days later. Figured out the regulator was the issue. Took me 2 hours but thanks to your video that's a small portion of how long it would have took following my Haynes manual!
Living Vicariously Through Myself Glad my video could be of some help! Be sure to test your Stator as well. If the rec/reg goes, sometimes the stator is the cause.
Jason Schneider yup will check it out on the weekend, got some new spark plugs and new battery on the way too to stick in while I'm messing with the bikes inards :) thanks!
Great detailed video. Best one yet
Thanks very much William. Hopefully it could be of some help to you!
man this video is great step by step and tools needed thanks a bunch! hate the fact gixxers have these stupid problems but love the bike. I'm gonna be in the process of doing the same once my rectifier comes in thanks again.
+JSKImotovlogs You're VERY welcome. I feel as though a video like this was required being that far too many people experience the same problem on their GSX-Rs and are simply stumped as to how to STOP replacing rectifiers!
+Jason Schneider ok sir I have replaced the rectifier, I rode the bike for a week then it died again. so I was like shit battery must been drained from the rectifier. So I ordered a stator just because everyone saying to do both after I fully charged the battery it seemed fine for couple days then I checked the volts and it dropped a little. it was at 11.7-11.9 at not started. i also replaced the stator but same result. Am I missing something? I need help please!
+JSKImotovlogs Usually when one of the 3 (Battery, Stator, Rectifier) blows, all 3 will blow. In some RARE occasions the ECU gets taken out as well. What you need to do is test resistance of all of the charging system wires first. Also check ALL the fuses. Be sure your battery is fully charged as well with a stand alone charger. The charging system on a bike doesn't really charge a battery, but maintains the charge. Hopefully that information helps!
You may have cooked a plate in the battery. I suggest having the battery load tested.
JSKImotovlogs Have 2 questions u should have the coolest air possible being fed to intake rite? That rectifier gets pretty hot...
So far so good with the air box mod bike feels better for sure
Great informative vedio could not ask for more.
good and easy video to understand
Love the video very helpful thanks
On my yamaha R1 i put mine under the back seat and use a computer fan to cool it down works like a charm
how was the reliability of that computer fan? did it stand the vibrations?
I made it!!! Thank you my lord !!
DAT VIDEO YOU DID HERE YEEA 💯👍👍👍👍👍 I JUST FINISHED WATCHING IIT N I JUST LEARN Y MY BATTERY KEPT DYING WITCH I HOPE BUT DAAM GOOD VIDEO BROTHER MUST DO IT AGAIN ON ANOTHER OR SAME BIIKE LOLOL
Hey man you just saved me a ton of fucking work by letting me know the dangling connector I have on my bike was the fucking horn.
I recently replaced my rectifier on my 07 750 and I noticed a rotten egg smell. I think its overcharging the battery. if I re locate the rectifier and get a new battery would this eliminate the bad smell?
Great video! Make more about these technical issues. Leaved a like :3
Great Vid!
Thanks a ton!!!
+Nathan Ross You're very welcome. If you've got any questions, feel free to ask!
Thank You for the great idea! :)
You're very welcome! Hopefully it helps!
mosfet regulator how many miles does it go
Great video helped me alot thank u
You're very welcome mate.
Quick question. Did u have problems placing the rectifier in the air box? . Does it get to hot that it melts the plastic. I've heard of people's rectifier catching fire. Saw this video and thought of doing mines here until I heard that some rectifier catching fire. Is it still there and working good?
Got my answer it won't melt the plastic . Read other comments down below .
How did that location work out? It has been over 5 years.
Thanks for the video
You're very welcome Alex.
What part number of this one? Any analog parts could place in?
thank you for the video, has the heat from the rectifier damaged/melted the plastic air box its bolted too? and do you think there has been or would be an issue with the rectifier heating the air going directly into the engine? thank you
i read further down in the comments and my question has been asked and answered :-) thanks again
Sorry it's taken me so long. Not a problem with heat so far!
Nice video. Where did you find the bracket for the rectifier that goes in front of the radiator?
The bracket is already there. The horn and the rectifier are bolted too it. Clutch side of the bike, between the rad and the exhaust manifold. Hope this helps.
You rock bro. 💪👌👍✌
That Dude 50 Cheers mate. Hopefully the video helps you!
Where did you find that screwdriver? I’ve tried Autozone and Autopart. The one from Walmart was too thick. I need help.
Up here in Canada, I got mine at Sears when it was still a thing. Try Part Source, Napa, or the dreaded Snap-On.
Nice video very clear and helpful. I currently own a 08 gsxr 600 and I just have a few concerns before i go ahead and relocate. I live in Hawaii and it can get pretty hot maybe around 94C. Could the rectifier gets hot enough and melt the airbox? I've read somewhere that the rectifier could potentially caught on fire is this true? What can I do to prevent it from happening or what to look for. Thank you again for the tutorial.
Hey man. Thanks for the comments. As far as the rectifiers catching fire, I've only heard of that happening when they where in their stock locations. Can I guarantee that it WON'T happen in the air box? No. However, I'd relocate it there (which can be reversed quite easily, two little holes in the air box isn't going to hurt), ride it for a few days, pop the air filter out and have a look. We went riding yesterday (36 Celsius), and had NO problems. Also I think you meant to type 94F not 94C!
+Jason Schneider i see and yes i meant F. Thank you so much for the reply and thank you again for creating an elaborate guide.
Not a worry at all Les, just glad to help out fellow riders!
Has this modification held up? thinking of doing the same for my k7. apparently my regulator/rectifier is the reason my bulbs keep burning out 😑
Yes! It's STILL working like a charm on this 2007 GSXR750. No issues whatsoever. If the reg/rec is over charging, that could be what's frying bulbs. It'll also be doing damage to other components that aren't voltage protected on the circuit as well. See what it's putting out for Voltage at the battery at idle and at about 2000rpm. That'll tell you right away if it's over charging.
No sir. Over 5000 km on it now in some VERY hot (30c +) weather without a single hiccup!
Hi Jason I am, in the process of changing mine for the second time and came across this vid of yours.On the previous occation I spiced in an extra positive and negative to give better grounding to the rec/reg.But from what ive read in the forums and from what you are saying here it seems to be a common problem these bikes have. Would I still need to ad the extra positive and negative cables if the tempertaure is controled better by doing this mod? What sort of temperature drop are we looking at with regard to the rec/reg ,The factory location makes it near impossible to touch the rec/reg after a ride. Thoughts?
Interesting ideas Mark. As far as the extra wires are concerned, I would say "no". The amperage output into the factory wires does not seem to be the cause of the excess heat. However, the factory location being SO close to the exhaust manifold seems to be the issue. Granted, it did take about 5 minutes to get the airbox off to check the heat after a long ride, but when I did, I could easily "bare hand" the rectifier in its new location. Hope that helps Mark!
@@TheSchneidj Shot for the info, I spoke with the 750 "expert" at our local dealer and he advised against the relocation. Not sure if it's because they can't admit to the not so great factory location or are not prepared to go against the grain and suggest mods like this ironic out of the box but inside the box idea.
@@markvankoersveld5881 I'm not sure on their reasoning against it at all. Perhaps because it's a dealer? I've had great success with the mod on several bikes as well as those involved in our local racing as well. I'm a Red Seal Auto tech, but not a motorcycle mechanic so I can't promise anything. However, from the results, this has been working without issue.
I would be worried about putting electrical stuff in the airbox right next to gas going into engine
good day @JASON Schneider 2 Questions:
1. WHICH RECTIFIER AND STATOR BRAND AND MODEL DO YOU HAVE THAT HAS NOT FAILED
2. wouldnt that location bring hot air into the system? if the rectifier gets hot woulnt that posibkle melt the plastic on the box?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
1. Purchased from RMStator. 2. No, the heat generated from the regulator/rectifier mixed with intake air has provided ZERO problems. I've pulled the airbox out after a season to check, and there was no sign of any wear or melting.
@@TheSchneidj love you man. Hopefully this solves my ongoing issues with my 2015 model. Did you Also have to replace tour stator? If yes . Which one did you use?
I'm currently looking at an 07 750, how bad is this problem? Does it effect EVERY gsxr of these years or does it effect bikes randomly. In other words is this fix a MUST? I'm coming off Kawasaki and never had a single problem from any of my ninja's, the 750 is tempting me with great performance reviews and feedback, my only pet peeve: my kawis never had any problems and I've ridden them past 30k miles. Can the same be said for an 07 gsxr 750? Can you ride one past 15k miles without having a rectifier blow?
Edit: same question with the stator, also Suzuki supposedly recalled these bikes, in 2018 would they still be covering this under recall?
Chase Null All VERY good questions. As far as the recall is concerned, you'd have to consult with your local dealer. Does this affect all of them? No. But it is very common.
Is your regulator still going strong? Been a few years now, just curious how well it held up.
%100 ZERO problems at all mate!
@@TheSchneidj Kickass. Thanks for the reply and the great video bud. Cheers
I have the same issue with my K6 at the moment and I love this idea. However, I've heard of these rectifiers catching fire when over heating. Relocating it to a non accessible location and directly under a tank full of gas sounds a little risky to me. At the same time I understand it is less likely to over heat in this location. I'm not sure which way to go.
+Kevin Smith This location is VERY accessible. More so than trying to get at the connectors in the stock location anyway. The whole engine is technically DIRECTLY under a full tank of gas. Regardless of WHERE the rectifier is moved to, if it catches fire, you're in a HEAP of trouble anyway. However, the chances of it failing before it catches fire is much more likely. Especially with an upgraded rectifier in a MUCH cooler location. In the cases of fire that I've hear of, it's inexperienced riders that either don't notice a running problem with their bikes, or simply don't care.
+Jason Schneider Fair enough. When I say non accessible, I meant non-quickly accessible to extinguish a fire if there happened to be one. I still like the idea. Could you recommend an upgraded rectifier? I only want to do this once, as I've heard this can be a repetitive fix! Thanks.
***** Ah, I get what you're saying. I went to www.rmstator.com/en_ww/?gclid=CMXNm7C_68oCFQetaQodXMoEOw for mine and it seems to be outstanding at this point.
+Jason Schneider Awesome, thanks. Great video!
***** Thanks for watching. Any other questions, feel free to ask!
i want to do this mod as well but im just nervous if it does blow again or catch fire in the airbox
A justifiable concern for sure. However, we've still had zero problems with it with lots of mileage on it now. If it blows again, it's easier to replace. Catching on fire is a rarity in my experience.
Yeah... The one time mine blew.. was not a pretty sight or smell. The thing was pretty much on fire. The last thing I'd want to do is have that thing fry inside a plastic box with lots of air going in to feed the fire, right next to a tank of gas and a bunch a lot of fuel lines. I'll keep it outside.
I just replaced my RR and did this mod but every time I turn it on I get this ticking sound coming from the area where the RR connection is. No idea what the ticking is from and bike won’t start. My stator was replaced 2 years ago but I’ve only put 4K miles on it since then. Any ideas? Another stator or battery?
Dakota Foster That could possibly be a relay that's ticking. Is the battery dead? Be sure it's fully charged BEFORE attempting a start, or you could put a lot of strain on the new RR/Stator.
Jason Schneider thanks for gettin back to me. I just charged the battery and tried it again. Everything came on like normal, went to start it n just a click sound happened and F1 came up on the dash. I tried starting it again and then the ticking started happening again. I’m at a loss of what’s wrong
Dakota Foster Hmmm. Have you looked into the exhaust butterfly valve issue that is VERY common in these bikes? Having an FI light come on indicates that it may be your problem. That, or the fried RR/Stator has unfortunately cooked your ECU. I've seen that happen on a few occasions as well.
Do you know if this affects airflow to the engine in any way?
Required Taste None whatsoever as far as I can tell. It's had no adverse affects on intake air or performance as all.
Jason Schneider but thats gonna heat up the air on the air box
The Rider ....seriously dude...?
Great video Jason Schneider . I've just watched it because i think i have a problem with my RR. My battery died today when i was riding the bike for 15 minutes. The RR is allready in the air box from 1 year now. I have sense'd a terrible smell the last 4-5 times i was firing the bike up ,i dont know from what. When i made it to the garage and touched the RR (in the air box) it was cold when the engine was still hot. Do you think it's toasted? There is no visible problem (like melted plastic) in the air box.I'm sorry for my english , if i wrote something wrong , but i'm from eastern Europe. Tomorrow i will check it and the stator too with the multimeter.
I would assume a stator possibly over charging. If there was a smell and it was like an "egg", your battery over charged and possibly shorted plates out. I would test to see what the voltage output is, and then load test the battery. If the rectifier is cold, it's doing its job well!
@@TheSchneidj You were right. The stator melted down the fuse and cabels to the RR realy bad. I wonder how the bike hasn't burned in flames. What should i do? Change the stator or try to repair it?
@@toniototev1503 %100 replace.
Hey Jason can I get an update on your bike?? I have had the same issue and am now on my 4th stator replacement. Yes... 4. Even after I relocated the regulator mounting it facing outward away from the heat source the damn thing still toasted! Ripping my hair out and ready to sell my bike I also saw the bracket for mounting in FRONT of the radiator which could work or do I mount in the airbox? Also are you suggesting that just having a low battery and not a dead one could be the reason they fail/fry?! Thank you very much for your help sir! I love my gixxer man everything else about this machine is absolutely flawless! I do NOT want to be forced to sell my baby.
Hello Travis. So far we have NOT had a single problem with it to date. A low battery will cause the Rec/Reg to work harder causing more heat. You have to remember that the charging system isn't really designed to charge the battery, more so just to maintain it. A company posted on this video somewhere for a bracket that fits in front of the rad. I would assume that would work better than the stock location as well. Would it work better than the airbox? I'm not too sure. Different air flow in both locations could work differently. All I know is that my airbox design hasn't failed! Best of luck to you!
Jason Schneider how is the rr relocation holding up so far? do you know anything about mosfet regulator rectifier ? any
jwrath90 Hey man, so far so good. No problems at all with the relocation. Over 5000km on it and not a hiccup. I did buy the upgraded RR from RMStator.com. It's the MOSFET unit and it's given me ZERO problems so far. Hope this helps!
Oh nice! I've gone through 5 rr's. Even relocated them and they still leave me stranded. I was going to sell it until I read about mosfet. I'm going to invest in one but didn't know what the reviews were. I've been let down so many times that I wanted to hear about results
jwrath90 That's terrible buddy. Like I said, the MOSFET one from RMStator has been bullet proof so far!
Whats a good website I should order my stator? I think it went bad!!
Travis Bradley A company called RMSTATOR is who I've used. Astounding service and high quality products.
I'm in the same situation with the rectifier. how has it been so far? any issues overheating the rectifier in this new location?
+Athanasios Agapitos New year with the bike out. Put over 6000km on it in this location and STILL zero issues with it at all.
+Jason Schneider How much easier would it be to just mount it to the left side near the fairing / frame?
I'm sure that it could be done quite easily. However, it may not be that aesthetically pleasing having the rectifier hanging out the side. Granted, ANY distance that it's move away from the exhaust manifold is probably helpful!
Im using gsxr 600 model 2008.. Is it using the same rectifier?
I'm fairly certain it is yes. Just check your part numbers.
I have the same bike couldn’t you just create an air cowl on the side of the bike where the stator can have air flow ?
Rectifier not stator my bad
Sure. Except when you're in stop and go traffic and the rectifier is still sitting above the exhaust with no airflow.
What should I do if the plastic connector separates from the 4 plugs on the top end of the bike?
Replace the connector or try to slide the pins back in. It's a fairly generic connector as well.
Jason Schneider hey thanks, so the pins don’t go in the connector in a specific order?
@@thekinghash Oh yes the certainly do. Google image search the connector to get the correct orientation.
i got a 05 gsxr 600 having a problem when is warm... it shuts off while u riding and wont start until after 15 min. then you can ride some more and it does it over again i dont know if it could be the same issue please let me know if u can help. thanks
Edgar.S It very well could be. Might be that when the rectifier gets warm enough it shuts down? That's an odd one for sure. There's no heat protection device on the rectifier that would shut it down though. Just a failure when hot.
I have t same problems let me know if you get some help
Did you guys happen to buy the bike used? It is possible the previous owner probably had this problem and installed a newer MOSFET rectifier which, if I remember reading about them a while back, will shut off when overheated, and after cooling, return to working. So if it's overheating, your stator might be bad, making your rectifier work extra hard, and also working to charge your battery. All this work and bad electricity from the stator might overheat it causing it to shut down. Once it's cooled off and begins working again, your bike starts up, runs on the battery for a bit and the cycle continues. I'm no expert though... just a thought is all.
A valid opinion Brad. Yes, newer "aftermarket" Rectifiers do sometimes have an "over heat" feature causing them to shut down. However, this was not the case on this bike. The stator was replaced with an aftermarket one from RMStator as well. The rectifier that originally cooked was the OEM unit. The bike could be left to cool for days and it would still not function as it should. A simple probe with a multi-meter ruled out a faulty stator the second time around. Once the stator AND rectifier where upgraded and the rectifier was relocated, all charging problems where rectified!
aaannnnddd I just realized that you where talking about Edgars concern and not the bike in the video. My bad!
Wow in a lot of this you sounded like Johnny Depp in fear and loathing
Thanks? I think?
I need the same work done to my bike. Are you in the Fort Lauderdale FL area?
Travis Bradley I'm in Edmonton Alberta. About as far away from you as possible!
Ha ha ha 😀
Thanks bro!!
Travis Bradley hey Travis did you end up doing this?
Joseph Piazza I'm in west palm beach Florida and once I did it I never had problems of it being in my air box
ok perfect
Hey guys my bike is having a problem and I dont know what's wrong with it? The dash flickers all the flights and the rpm gauge goes up and down and I dont know why? I just changed the rectifier today and that wasn't it!! I have a video of what it's doing on my channel.
Google search the Exhaust Butterfly Valve removal. That may be the problem. Also may be the stator or battery as well.
@@TheSchneidj I'll look into it thanks
Have a question I have a 07 gsxr600 n recently my bike doesn't start when I try starting it the headlight and cluster lights come on n I hear it ticking in the back bt doesn't fire up how ever when I go to jump start it it fires right up and when it's on stays on bt moment I turn it off won't start agin had my battery tested and came out gd sum ppl told me they think either my solendod or rectifier could b bad wat you think????
rican 13210 Sounds as if your rectifier/regulator OR the stator, or both have died and the bike is running off what little power the batter has. Test for voltage output at the battery when the bike is running. If below 14.1v (I think that's spec? You'll have to Google) then your charging system has died.
Jason Schneider ok thanks I bought the stator/ rectifier gasket kit so I'll install both jus in case bt hopefully that will fix the problem is the stator easier to install then the rectifier?
now if the rectifier ever fries or catches fire it's trapped where you can't get to it fast and there's a nice big gas tank sitting above to blow up lol I had 2 rectifier blow up on me but I'm in 110+ degree temps so it's hard to keep mine cool
Travis McGee It would take you MUCH longer to get at it in its stock location which is still below the tank. Should it catch fire in the new location, it's still contained away from the fuel tank. In the new location you don't have to reach over screaming hot exhaust pipes and the plugs are WAY easier to get at as well.
Jason Schneider on 05 and older there mounted on the back end I've got an 05 with it being on the back it get no air flow lol
Travis McGee Oh good to know! The one in the video is a 2007. Looks like Suzuki still hadn't figured it out by then!
actually a much easier and quicker way is to just flip the oem bracket that the rectifier is on . it pushes it out away from the header and gets more cool air . literally took me 10 minutes .
kailani caleb Yes, that does work. However, it doesn't move it very far away from the exhaust, and in my opinion, looks terrible hanging out the side.
Where do you live.
WAY up North! Seriously though, I'm in Edmonton Alberta. Not that far North!
Jason Schneider no way! I'm from peace river alberta! Once I get my k7 fixed and my buddy and I come down we'll have to meet up for a group ride! Bunch of people from the ESP group I wanna meet too!
Check out the EMRA Race Schedual and come up for that. I'm ALWAYS working at them!
19:18 scared me AF
Such paitents, i couldn't do this with out cursing and swearing. I woukd not attempt to do this lol
Not that bad at all my friend. Shouldn't take you more than an hour if you follow the steps!
I dropped it off at the shop should be ready after work ! Lol
@@daltonisrael5360 Well that makes the job WAY easier then doesn't it?
Rectifier was replaced and that stator was tested but the battery still isnt getting charged. What do you think is going on ?
@@TheSchneidj v
I appreciate the feedback Jason I ended up keeping my bike. I came to the conclusion that my reg/stator was frying due to failure of keeping a properly maintained battery so now I plug it in my trickle charger religiously each and every single time Im done riding. I also improved my relocation of the regulator by extending the unit out even further using my frame slider for maximum air flow. It sticks out quite a bit and looks sort of goofy but I dont care as long as it fixes the issue!!! I can send you a picture if you'd like, thanks for your help I appreciate it very much!
I appreciate the feedback Jason I ended up keeping my bike. I came to the conclusion that my reg/stator was frying due to failure of keeping a properly maintained battery so now I plug it in my trickle charger religiously each and every single time Im done riding. I also improved my relocation of the regulator by extending the unit out even further using my frame slider for maximum air flow. It sticks out quite a bit and looks sort of goofy but I dont care as long as it fixes the issue!!! I can send you a picture if you'd like, thanks for your help I appreciate it very much!
I appreciate the feedback Jason I ended up keeping my bike. I came to the conclusion that my reg/stator was frying due to failure of keeping a properly maintained battery so now I plug it in my trickle charger religiously each and every single time Im done riding. I also improved my relocation of the regulator by extending the unit out even further using my frame slider for maximum air flow. It sticks out quite a bit and looks sort of goofy but I dont care as long as it fixes the issue!!! I can send you a picture if you'd like, thanks for your help I appreciate it very much!