This Project is of immense importance for India both from civilian and military point of view. It can change Civil aviation Market completely can be used as Refueller, Cargo Aircraft, Reconissance aircraft, Maritime Petrol aircraft, AWACS etc. Indian govt should fast track this project
When we talk about buisness we always talk about ROI.. Return on investment.. Here 2 billion will take like 25-30years..still only half will be payed back.. Although we will get technology..but A JV will be much cheaper and we will have the proprietor Manufacturing/Modification rights.+ It will come Sooner then never like this.
Government Should Invest Some Money To NAL To Open Their Own Production Facility As NAL Is The Best & Most Favorite And Unsung Heros Of Indian Defence Industries As They Single Handedly Developed Critical Technologies By Themselves For India Which Was Restricted By The Western Counties Even They Applied Sanctions. सत्यमेव जयते 🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏.
Production should be given to private indian firm and NAL should focus on design and get royalties and help develop Indian industry Govt should focus on core research instead of running factories
Instead of spending 25 billion annually on distributing free food to 800 million, half of whom don't even need free food, govt should spare some money for important tech development... This will also keep Indian talent in India instead of working for Boeing or Airbus
After seeing Russia, our govt. should have dedicated budget for this. Govt. shall develop the core product and license it to local manufacturers (incl. their fav. Reliance). Once the product gets going, the private companies can improvise upon the design and take it from there. Otherwise, this will never get started.
I'll be the happiest person if I'm proven wrong here, but probably we'll get another PowerPoint presentation from CSIR NAL on this, after spending 2Billion and 3 years.
A wise man once said U made a 19 seater aircraft called saras Mk1 which took 2 decades.. and u spend Millions on it.. So where is it? Babu's said We are working on Saras Mk2 which will be again a 19 seater aircraft but without pusher configuration and will take another decade to come* .😎😎
It still makes sense to consider purchasing Embraer in a 50:50 split, and that will solve most of the IAF's needs like aerial refuellers, and business jets and regional jets. However the issue of expensive jumbo jets remains, and the best solution to that is to join the CR929 jumbo jet project. It is unrealistic to develop jumbo jets entirely on your own, and there are already too many competitors in the regional jet space. Much easier to buy our way in, like how Tata just bought Land Rover. If the NAL team is left in chrage, they will likely take decades to produce a plane. Buying Embraer is the fastest shortcut to success.
@@datoolz0 Nope It Will Be Indigenous Made Medium Aircraft By RUSSIA+India Illusin Aircraft. We Need To Invest In Indigenous Technology Rather Than Purchasing It.
@@datoolz0 The only negotiation that the government is having is in relation to a possible sale of the KC-390 to India, with the possibility of technology transfer and local production. Any type of agreement involving changes in the shareholding control of the Brazilian company, as would happen with Boeing, has practically zero chances of being approved by the new Brazilian government, contrary to the sale with strategic companies.
That seems like the most realistic solution to this. Both Brazil and India would win. India can supply both muscle and brain and scale it to meet the demands of the larger world.
For positive outcome in Aerospace sector, Govt should allow pvt firms like Tata and L&T to have partnership with govt R&D agencies for co development with a clear mandate of giving them rights of design and manufacturing after completion of projects. Pvt players will have to pay royalty for getting the IPR rights. Govt has to bear the entire project cost. Financial Risk has to be taken by govt. Otherwise such projects isn't going to become successful. Don't expect private firms to invest billions without any commitments.
As all projects this will also take another 20 years..... just tie up with Bombardier or Embraer and it will be up and flying in less than 5 yrs ....2 billion on development would be better spent elsewhere....
Using the Su-30's non-afterburning stage as a basis, a turbofan engine should be developed with a max thrust rating of 75 KN. This should be used to power this aircraft. The turboprop required to power this aircraft will have to be humongous. So I feel this is just going to be another long-drawn out projects which might fail.
Depending on the technology used, this aircraft may reach the market outdated, making the product unattractive. Embraer was on the TPNG, a program for a new generation turboprop with a capacity of 70/90 seats. However, the Brazilian company recently announced its pause, since the technologies offered by engine manufacturers were not attractive, making it run the risk of certifying the plane just when a new class of turboprop engines emerges.
Make it a cargo freighter 1st so it can be repurposed as a passenger aircraft later without modification. It would make it more marketable. Rear cargo doors also.
It has been running since last 2 decades,with already money spent on it without even reaching the prototype phase or even out of the drawing boards. Investment of 2 billion dollars is justified only if PSU nexus promises to deliver it by 2025-26.
Can we say this is the Indian indigenous equivalent of c295 with Multi role multi mission capabilities ? Surveillance reconnaissance, hot refueling, troop transportation, if possible tactical bombing????
No need to bring ur kannada hindi complex here again and again.. It doesn't matter u speak English or hindi or kannada or marathi or tamil or punjabi until it's easy to comprehend and most importantly it makes sense🤗🤗✌🏼
This Project is of immense importance for India both from civilian and military point of view. It can change Civil aviation Market completely can be used as Refueller, Cargo Aircraft, Reconissance aircraft, Maritime Petrol aircraft, AWACS etc. Indian govt should fast track this project
When we talk about buisness we always talk about ROI..
Return on investment..
Here 2 billion will take like 25-30years..still only half will be payed back..
Although we will get technology..but A JV will be much cheaper and we will have the proprietor Manufacturing/Modification rights.+ It will come Sooner then never like this.
NAL Always Deliver What They Said. They Are The Real Unsung Heros Of India.❤❤🎉🎉
सत्यमेव जयते 🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏.
Government Should Invest Some Money To NAL To Open Their Own Production Facility As NAL Is The Best & Most Favorite And Unsung Heros Of Indian Defence Industries As They Single Handedly Developed Critical Technologies By Themselves For India Which Was Restricted By The Western Counties Even They Applied Sanctions.
सत्यमेव जयते 🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏.
Production should be given to private indian firm and NAL should focus on design and get royalties and help develop Indian industry
Govt should focus on core research instead of running factories
Instead of spending 25 billion annually on distributing free food to 800 million, half of whom don't even need free food, govt should spare some money for important tech development... This will also keep Indian talent in India instead of working for Boeing or Airbus
NAL ?
Great
Let's hope this will be available for production in a century 😃
NAL Deliver What They Said With Quality In Time
After seeing Russia, our govt. should have dedicated budget for this. Govt. shall develop the core product and license it to local manufacturers (incl. their fav. Reliance). Once the product gets going, the private companies can improvise upon the design and take it from there. Otherwise, this will never get started.
I'll be the happiest person if I'm proven wrong here, but probably we'll get another PowerPoint presentation from CSIR NAL on this, after spending 2Billion and 3 years.
Don't forget they weren't even able to make NM-5 a 5Seater aircraft. 😂😂😭
Yes kids like you have no understanding of R&D and feel important being negative
2 billion $ is negligeble to develop and fast forward aviation sector in india which can provide job opportunities as well. This investment is a must.
Until HAL 's 51%share is sold to pvt companies it is not going to deliver in time because it's working culture is typical govt offices
I can see the future.
It'll be in paper only.
A wise man once said U made a 19 seater aircraft called saras Mk1 which took 2 decades.. and u spend Millions on it..
So where is it?
Babu's said We are working on Saras Mk2 which will be again a 19 seater aircraft but without pusher configuration and will take another decade to come* .😎😎
It still makes sense to consider purchasing Embraer in a 50:50 split, and that will solve most of the IAF's needs like aerial refuellers, and business jets and regional jets. However the issue of expensive jumbo jets remains, and the best solution to that is to join the CR929 jumbo jet project. It is unrealistic to develop jumbo jets entirely on your own, and there are already too many competitors in the regional jet space. Much easier to buy our way in, like how Tata just bought Land Rover. If the NAL team is left in chrage, they will likely take decades to produce a plane. Buying Embraer is the fastest shortcut to success.
Bhaarata will lose this opportunity too, unfortunately.
@@DailyLifeSolution Grim, the government has been negotiating with Embraer, this has been confirmed by them. Maybe a deal is underway?
@@datoolz0 Nope It Will Be Indigenous Made Medium Aircraft By RUSSIA+India Illusin Aircraft.
We Need To Invest In Indigenous Technology Rather Than Purchasing It.
@@datoolz0 The only negotiation that the government is having is in relation to a possible sale of the KC-390 to India, with the possibility of technology transfer and local production. Any type of agreement involving changes in the shareholding control of the Brazilian company, as would happen with Boeing, has practically zero chances of being approved by the new Brazilian government, contrary to the sale with strategic companies.
That seems like the most realistic solution to this. Both Brazil and India would win. India can supply both muscle and brain and scale it to meet the demands of the larger world.
For positive outcome in Aerospace sector, Govt should allow pvt firms like Tata and L&T to have partnership with govt R&D agencies for co development with a clear mandate of giving them rights of design and manufacturing after completion of projects. Pvt players will have to pay royalty for getting the IPR rights.
Govt has to bear the entire project cost.
Financial Risk has to be taken by govt.
Otherwise such projects isn't going to become successful.
Don't expect private firms to invest billions without any commitments.
They are allowed to do that
involving private players is a very important step!
As all projects this will also take another 20 years..... just tie up with Bombardier or Embraer and it will be up and flying in less than 5 yrs ....2 billion on development would be better spent elsewhere....
RTA-90 is not new program, according to some sources rta first varient will be in service in 2026 ,so without any foreign help nal can develop rta ..
This 90 seater CSIR aircraft can be used in refuelling and ELINT operations if DRDO & ADA works on it ❤🇮🇳🤘
Tumhare bacche hojaenge tabtak ho hi jaega ye induct.
Using the Su-30's non-afterburning stage as a basis, a turbofan engine should be developed with a max thrust rating of 75 KN. This should be used to power this aircraft. The turboprop required to power this aircraft will have to be humongous. So I feel this is just going to be another long-drawn out projects which might fail.
Doesn't Kaveri already produce 80+ kN thrust?
@@KneelBeforeBlue 80+ kN with "after burners", which are not applicable for airliners.
Depending on the technology used, this aircraft may reach the market outdated, making the product unattractive. Embraer was on the TPNG, a program for a new generation turboprop with a capacity of 70/90 seats. However, the Brazilian company recently announced its pause, since the technologies offered by engine manufacturers were not attractive, making it run the risk of certifying the plane just when a new class of turboprop engines emerges.
Can it be run on Kaveri Dry Engine
Make it a cargo freighter 1st so it can be repurposed as a passenger aircraft later without modification. It would make it more marketable. Rear cargo doors also.
Saras in 25 years with technology shared from So228 program by HAL,that too with lesser payload & overpriced as usual.
40 a350s 20 b787s 10 b777Xs
70 widebody aircrafts
it could have given a turbojet engine, thus I believe its range could be increased in that way.
bro have they completed the order of 15 Saras mk1???
It has been running since last 2 decades,with already money spent on it without even reaching the prototype phase or even out of the drawing boards.
Investment of 2 billion dollars is justified only if PSU nexus promises to deliver it by 2025-26.
Give this to TATA or some private player. Else it will only end up as a wooden mock up and as poor PPT animations for the next century.
IAF has returned USD 3 billion to govt. That can be used to fund CSIR-RTA.
Hope it won't be underpowered Our headache is engine
All should change to private to do fast,
Is this for politicians to escape when they are caught in a scam
This is for Akhand PM going around the country giving colourful election speeches missing parliament and PMO duties.
@@prashanthb6521 People of India will decide his performance in next general election.. Calm down neither modi nor pappu is going anywhere. 🤗🤗
Can we say this is the Indian indigenous equivalent of c295 with Multi role multi mission capabilities ? Surveillance reconnaissance, hot refueling, troop transportation, if possible tactical bombing????
Engine?
Please reduce background music
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What is the logic of 90 seater.....better they could have gone for 100 seater
30 year or 50 years 😂
Waste of time and resources by NAL.
Thanks for ENGLISH videos and not HINDI.
No need to bring ur kannada hindi complex here again and again..
It doesn't matter u speak English or hindi or kannada or marathi or tamil or punjabi until it's easy to comprehend and most importantly it makes sense🤗🤗✌🏼
Waste of govt money