Troubleshooting an Engine Noise

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  • Опубликовано: 2 мар 2017
  • I developed a new engine noise after a high speed run on my 2004 Yamaha Grizzly 660. I take you step by step through my process of troubleshooting and how to isolate the cause of the noise, and assess the damage.
    I also demonstrate how to use a mechanics stethoscope, check for loose valves, check spark plug color for ignition issues, how to check valve timing, and several other common issues while we looked for the issue.
    In our case the problem was piston slap due to excessive wear at the wrist pin. I show the damage caused, and the parts I will need to replace.
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Комментарии • 56

  • @ModernSurvivalists
    @ModernSurvivalists  4 года назад +9

    Sorry about the dog barking in background. He loved chasing the four-wheeler and would get excited whenever he saw it out.

  • @jmeofnc
    @jmeofnc 3 года назад +4

    The knowledge got my view .. the A-Team music is what kept me interested

  • @juryc9042
    @juryc9042 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the thorough video and also explanations. I myself currently have the exact same slap on my yamaha tt250. After valve adjustment and cam chain check i still have a slap. Next stop is to check the connecting rod and also specifically the piston slap. Thanks again for the video.

  • @faustin289
    @faustin289 4 года назад +2

    Woow...very informative indeed.
    I have same clicking noise problem with my motorbike but the difference is that my engine is pretty new. I therefore think it's a timing chain issue.

  • @scotts5637
    @scotts5637 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for a great explanation with this video.

  • @kendalmyers9445
    @kendalmyers9445 5 лет назад

    Thanks bro. I had the same problem on my 2008 polaris sportsman 400 H.O.

  • @chrisc6874
    @chrisc6874 2 года назад +1

    Nice diagnosis. I had a honda 400ex that my son used to jump some tracks. Hit the bottom of the case on the engine and blew a hole in it. All the oil had came out. Because of the location of the hole, the whole engine had to be taken apart right down to the transmission. I have a short vid of it after it was put back together and I was just testing it. I'm more into motorcycles now

  • @kenheyward9924
    @kenheyward9924 Год назад

    Thanks for the information !! 👍

  • @jackmcbeth6033
    @jackmcbeth6033 2 года назад +1

    Very good thanks 👍

  • @beryean1366
    @beryean1366 Месяц назад

    Some gear tooth stripped out on my kodiak 700 crankshaft. I got it fixed tho with some welding and filing

  • @oneeyedrone4293
    @oneeyedrone4293 2 года назад +1

    Did you ever do a follow up on this video/issue ?

  • @autosuggestion7267
    @autosuggestion7267 5 лет назад +2

    hey bud wheres your next vid, did you fix it?

  • @isaacvisser2904
    @isaacvisser2904 4 года назад +1

    A lot of times valves do tick as well when adjusted its pretty normal. The saying goes ticking valves are happy valves lol. Because it never tick before and when i adjusted them it was a slight tick.

  • @balltime3377
    @balltime3377 5 лет назад +1

    you got fourwheel back together did dat fix problem

  • @a-damgrubeer8527
    @a-damgrubeer8527 2 года назад +2

    “I love it when a plan comes together!”……(cigar smoke)

  • @christopherbirtwhistle1160
    @christopherbirtwhistle1160 4 года назад

    Hi I have a quadzilla rs6 X6 and only when I break with rear breaks my quad makes a noise like something is slipping like engine of drive it's an auto any idea mate

  • @jbings4
    @jbings4 4 года назад +3

    Great video! I was able to learn a lot. Did you ever do the video on adjusting the valves? I'm far from an expert, but own a few ATV's and would like to learn how to adjust the valves.

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  4 года назад +3

      Thanks! I just posted a followup video of how it sounds now - tried to have some fun with it lol! ruclips.net/video/NOy9mL4k2oE/видео.html
      A valve adjustment video is in the works as well.

  • @Rambush__
    @Rambush__ 2 года назад

    I think i might have the same issue as that looks like a days work but like you said 200 dollwra better then x amount

  • @tunerlifestyle
    @tunerlifestyle 3 года назад

    Is there a way I can send you a vid of my bike? I have a sound similar but not as loud on mine. It’s a 2020 renegade 570

  • @thesadboii5128
    @thesadboii5128 5 лет назад

    Damn thanks! My raptor 660 is doing the same noise but wayy much more quiet

    • @LifeofAedan
      @LifeofAedan 3 года назад

      Same here! If you read this, was it your timing chain?

    • @daredevildare3641
      @daredevildare3641 2 года назад

      @@LifeofAedan did you figure it out

  • @shawngonzales5080
    @shawngonzales5080 2 года назад

    Did that fix the issue? I just picked up a rhino 660 sounds like the same noise.

  • @DeanFergusson
    @DeanFergusson Год назад

    I’ve got the same noise but a massive loss in power. It will barely pull off. Any suggestions?

  • @zachwithastache7898
    @zachwithastache7898 3 года назад

    Did yours smoke any?

  • @teresacavo2151
    @teresacavo2151 5 лет назад +4

    Awesome video bud you saved me from selling my bike. Just pulled my top end and have the same issue at 260 hours. Not sure if that's common thing for these atvs at those hours but am sure glad it wasn't rod knock. What wheel set up are you running?

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  5 лет назад +1

      Nice! Glad it was helpful. The tires are ITP Mud Lite XL's mounted on some ITP wheels. The tires hook up great in dirt / mud. A little loose in gravel but good enough, but lousy in deep snow.

    • @morris.d246
      @morris.d246 Год назад

      Hi Teresa how are you?

  • @liveandletlive2894
    @liveandletlive2894 4 года назад +2

    Pretty sure the timing chain tensioner needs to be set every time its installed
    Needed that on my bayou 220
    Having issues with my '97 Kawasaki Prairie 400 4x4 making noise

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  3 года назад +2

      On this motor the timing chain tensioner is spring loaded. Only needs adjusted (more like backed off to reset) if chain is removed / replaced.

    • @liveandletlive2894
      @liveandletlive2894 3 года назад

      @@ModernSurvivalists 😆 can't believe i wrote that back then. Rookie move!

    • @HalfdeadRider
      @HalfdeadRider Год назад

      @@liveandletlive2894 Not a totally rookie move, you do have to reset it to a specified amount of teeth out, then manually turn the engine over a few times to let the CCT set itself.
      When an automatic CCT fails you will not see anything wrong with it, it's the internal spring that has weakened, so it then does not have the strength to automatically adjust as the chain wears down, or when you have reset it.

  • @javanhughes5118
    @javanhughes5118 3 года назад

    Sounds like your clutch has come slack mate!! I had the experience on my 150 gy6 scooter thought it was my big end bearing! Case closed

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  3 года назад

      I have had several people mention that. In this case it turned out to be piston slap.

  • @vincentv9147
    @vincentv9147 3 года назад

    if there's no smoke to your muffler the block is still ok you need to change the piston and piston ring. and pins

    • @oneeyedrone4293
      @oneeyedrone4293 2 года назад

      what about the bottom rod bearing ?? im getting a knock only under any acceleration. I stopped running it, Im going to take apart the block to investigate the piston.
      Picked up a spare engine in parts with a good top end for spare parts.

  • @kylefriend3180
    @kylefriend3180 3 года назад +1

    Did you have metal shavings in your oil?

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  3 года назад +1

      Yes, there was very small particles, looked like glitter.

  • @jackrum45
    @jackrum45 4 года назад

    Im having the same kinda sound, any chance you saw aluminum glitter in your oil?

  • @isaacvisser2904
    @isaacvisser2904 4 года назад +1

    Did you get rid of the ticking at all?

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  4 года назад +2

      Yes, motor is running great! Wiseco piston kit took care of the slap/tick and seems to have a little more power now too. : ) I should try to make a followup video of how it sounds now.

    • @oneeyedrone4293
      @oneeyedrone4293 2 года назад

      @@ModernSurvivalists did you end up doing a new crank ? or just piston and cylinder head ?

  • @user-tl3df5nw6n
    @user-tl3df5nw6n 6 месяцев назад

    Did you ever finish putting it together and did it take care of the noise sorry I didn't check all the comments to see if you answer that question or not.

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  4 месяца назад

      Yep, rebuilt top end and has been running great for last several years.

  • @banditshane6706
    @banditshane6706 Год назад

    Was the cylinder still savable

    • @ModernSurvivalists
      @ModernSurvivalists  Год назад

      Yep, I was able to hone out the scoring. This was several years ago and it's still running strong.

  • @chetblue4146
    @chetblue4146 4 года назад +1

    Rod

    • @oneeyedrone4293
      @oneeyedrone4293 2 года назад

      ya seems like rod/crank are bad there too. Its a crazy process to do the crank on the 660 and 700 motors tho. Usually more in labour than the motor is worth.

  • @jaywinters2483
    @jaywinters2483 Год назад

    YOu could have just left it & taken it to the County Fair & entered that fourwheeler into the demolition derby.

  • @riderr2035
    @riderr2035 3 года назад +1

    First problems is a yamaha

    • @oneeyedrone4293
      @oneeyedrone4293 2 года назад +1

      lol only the most reliable off road machines ;) but hey i guess they are wrong