The most shocking part of this is the fact that a milk man in the 60’s could afford; to get married, have a family, afford a lawyer and afford to turn down a cash settlement.
Meanwhile, I got kicked out of a volunteer program with the courts because the FBI agent at the courthouse heard me laugh at a dirty joke. But that man became the most prominent DA? Man just fuck the world
Just finished reading Tom O'Neill's "Chaos". One of the best books I've ever read, highly engaging. Covers a lot of ground, a lot a complexity, and a lot of twists and turns. Better that most any fiction. Highly recommended, if you plan on reading it, set aside at least two hours per reading session, you'll want keep reading until you're either done or you brain can't take in any more info. A spent about 6 hours reading today to finally finish it.
To be honest just the fact Jack Ruby was assigned a court ordered psychiatrist who turned out to be a CIA mind control expert and shortly afterward Ruby went absolutely fucking insane is enough to entice me down the rabbit hole.
Holy fuck, just found out after watching this my sister's grandmother's cousin is Vincent Bugliosi, and hearing stories about my sister's father makes a shit ton more sense. Crazy abusive to my mom and absolutely fucking crazy
I'm Joes age, I had milk delivered to my home up until the late 80's. Even our neighbors were amazed, lol. Good ole days. We always thought one of our sisters was a productive of the milk man. Jokingly of course.
I went to school with the only Manson member to be paroled. Steve "Clem" Grogan, this was in LA in 1986, its a music school in Hollywood called Musicians Institute. Steve (Clem), was a blues guitar player and did some art work for the school, I met him in a practice room and he tried out my guitar. He kept telling me that my strings were old and needed replacing. Its was odd because he kept saying it over and over. Anyway, a friend of mine saw me in the room with him and his eyes got real wide and he briskly walked away. Later he told me that that guy was a former Manson family member. I was a big skeptic and said "no way, thats bullshit" "its probably some kind of rumor" well, he said, "thats what I thought till I went to the bookstore on the boulevard and looked at the pics in Helter Skelter!" So, on my way home I went and looked at the book. In the insert in the middle are a bunch of pics of the family and there he was, Steve Grogan staring back at me at a younger age. My heart sank. I never talked to him again. Totally true story.
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The most shocking part of this is the fact that a milk man in the 60’s could afford; to get married, have a family, afford a lawyer and afford to turn down a cash settlement.
Meanwhile, I got kicked out of a volunteer program with the courts because the FBI agent at the courthouse heard me laugh at a dirty joke. But that man became the most prominent DA? Man just fuck the world
"that bugliosi dude
For decades, Bugliosi was the staunchest proponent of Oswald acting alone in the JFK assassination. Makes sense now.
When the prosecutor in the Manson case is actually crazier than the defendant...
Just finished reading Tom O'Neill's "Chaos". One of the best books I've ever read, highly engaging. Covers a lot of ground, a lot a complexity, and a lot of twists and turns. Better that most any fiction. Highly recommended, if you plan on reading it, set aside at least two hours per reading session, you'll want keep reading until you're either done or you brain can't take in any more info. A spent about 6 hours reading today to finally finish it.
Manson was calling this guy out during various interviews but no one believed Charles Manson this guy was crazier than Charlie
To be honest just the fact Jack Ruby was assigned a court ordered psychiatrist who turned out to be a CIA mind control expert and shortly afterward Ruby went absolutely fucking insane is enough to entice me down the rabbit hole.
How has this story of “The Milkman” not been made into a feature-length film, a documentary, or a really complicated porno? 🤷🏽♂️
I'm an older fellow and it took decades for me to fully realize something: Lies are the new truth.
Dad is listening to his daughter say her prayers before bedtime.
Hmmm... This one might be a full episode watch...
Holy fuck, just found out after watching this my sister's grandmother's cousin is Vincent Bugliosi, and hearing stories about my sister's father makes a shit ton more sense. Crazy abusive to my mom and absolutely fucking crazy
Remember Manson specifically stated Helter Skelter was Bugliosi’s delusion and reflection of his own sex paranoia.
I'm Joes age, I had milk delivered to my home up until the late 80's. Even our neighbors were amazed, lol. Good ole days. We always thought one of our sisters was a productive of the milk man. Jokingly of course.
Every time he mentions this Vince's crazy wildman antics I picture Vince McMahon doing a WWE bit.
I went to school with the only Manson member to be paroled. Steve "Clem" Grogan, this was in LA in 1986, its a music school in Hollywood called Musicians Institute. Steve (Clem), was a blues guitar player and did some art work for the school, I met him in a practice room and he tried out my guitar. He kept telling me that my strings were old and needed replacing. Its was odd because he kept saying it over and over. Anyway, a friend of mine saw me in the room with him and his eyes got real wide and he briskly walked away. Later he told me that that guy was a former Manson family member. I was a big skeptic and said "no way, thats bullshit" "its probably some kind of rumor" well, he said, "thats what I thought till I went to the bookstore on the boulevard and looked at the pics in Helter Skelter!" So, on my way home I went and looked at the book. In the insert in the middle are a bunch of pics of the family and there he was, Steve Grogan staring back at me at a younger age. My heart sank. I never talked to him again. Totally true story.
This rabbit hole literally has no end🐰🍄
This guest is fascinating. Amazing the amount of power these people wield in their offices on high.
Vince sounds like Presidential material.