'Tragedy for us all': Mehdi reacts to Supreme Court striking down affirmative action
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- The Supreme Court just struck down affirmative action programs at UNC & Harvard, effectively ending the consideration of race in admissions - a decision Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson called “a tragedy.” Legal experts Meagan Hatcher-Mays and Elie Mystal join Mehdi to discuss the monumental decision.
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Most interesting part is that the Supreme Court threw out affirmative action in education, but carved out a special exception saying that diversity was needed in the military academies and therefore it was necessary to keep it there. Kinda suspicious that they say racial diversity is important in one sector and not important elsewhere.
@@dirkjensen969 The majority of the caskets coming through Dover AFB hold the bodies of White men.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Seems inconsistent and (to me) appears at odds with the decision
Exactly
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Right wing judges - hypocrites
There is nothing good coming out of this Supreme Court, not when there are turds on it like Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch.
Can’t people just get in on their abilities.
That would be great. But unfortunately they would not do that. That's why they created Affirmative Action because blacks and minorities who were qualified were not being admitted even though they were qualified just because they were black.
To all of the students who were discriminated against for decades by being denied admission into universities due to the racist affirmative action precedent, you’re now free to thrive based on merit (which is all that should’ve mattered).
THE WHOLE POINT OF AFFIRMATVE ACTION WAS TO combat white American racism for their discrimination against people of color and students of color applying to Universities in America. Now it will continue in the open.
Yes, but when Affirmative Action was implemented it was because people of color that were well qualified were being kept out unfairly.
When a system is designed to favor a group of people, only their particular "abilities" matter. Affirmative action helped to overcome some of those issues.
They shouldn’t allow for rich parents to give to the schools so their kids can get special treatment then
There are laws against it
@@markovangelothere are ways around it.
@cmasterson there's ways around any laws and I'm sure rich black white green or red people going to find ways around laws but that doesn't negate the fact choosing someone on the color of their skin is wrong
Class privilege exists and always will exist, unfortunately. Racial privilege shouldn’t. Affirmative Action was Systemic Racism. Nobody with a brain could have supported it.
Go sue them. You think those Asian students just sat behind their keyboards all day and suddenly this ruling happened?
It’s funny, people don’t seem to care about diversity when it comes to sports scholarships.
we need more asians in football...LOL!
Yeah but sports are important and should be based on merit - not like being a doctor or engineer.
Sports scholarships are absolute trash. Sports in college is a disgusting waste of money. Look at any state and the highest paid ‘government employee’ is always a college coach that makes over $1 million a year.
Fun fact: College sports teams used to be all white, before the nation set out to rectify centuries of not giving a flying fart about the merits of black athletes.
@@MayMarmaid Exactly..... And the sportsball players shouldn't even be allowed to clean the toilets at a major college or university. It's an absolute joke they are even allowed on campus much less attend classes.
Affirmative action was voted down even in CA in 2020, so it was incredibly unlikely this Supreme Court wouldn’t have stuck this down.
Stack SCOTUS13 Restore women's bodily autonomy and LGBTQ rights and Gun reform End filibuster end Gerrymandering end ELECTORAL COLLEGE
Restore racial equity
No excuses for SCOTUS stupidity!
Yes, and it's been a disaster for diversity.
Be serious, Racism is all but Dead. This is ridiculous. This will be overturned very soon.
Yes, we are very logical here. And logic doesn’t have a political agenda.
“We can only hope for a future where color of skin, is no more important than the color of one’s eyes”.
Now let's get "legacy" admissions banned, too, if we are going to be consistent.
That generates endowments.
I vote we add Stockton Rush and all the descendants of Benjamin Rush to the list, immediately, before they start more submarine companies and start more trips to the bottom of the oceans to see more Titanics.
Yes, most of their kids get to go to whatever schools their parents went to or donate to.
@@drowningpooralice5505 Does that make it right?
@@drowningpooralice5505 "Fair and equitable."
Calling this the end of the rights act is laughable.
Is your mantra Bring Back Jim Crow?
@@ldfreitas9437no that’s the lefts. There already segregating colleges and graduation. Jim Crow was the democrats by the way.
@@ldfreitas9437 Equal playing field for all..
@@ldfreitas9437 please explain why you think hiring based on skin color vs the most qualified for the job isn't racist? I'LL WAIT 😉
@@ldfreitas9437 if ending race based discrimination is bringing back Jim Crow, sign me up!
“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
Voltaire
And these are absurdities.
Only one cure, blue tsunami!!🌊🌊🌊
"I want to be operated on by a melinated doctor who barely made it into med school."
- Me
Affirmative action certainly was an atrocity. That was the real "Systemic Racism."
Voltaire would applaud this decision, obviously.
thats msnbc entire buisness model
Since SCOTUS JUSTICES have eliminated Affirmative Action, then the question about a person's race on college and employment applications should be eliminated too!.
There is a decline to answer box.
@@ericeandco You do not get penalized for being white or asian. You get EXTRA points for being black, latina native American. DISCRIMINATION!!!!!!!
@@ericeandcoI fully agree hiring on the basis of race has to stop immediately government racial quotas are racist they sould hire the best candidate always.
Agreed. Race should never be mentioned in 2023.
Clarence Thomas used affirmative action and he was mediocre. Impeach him now. He doesn't have the smarts for that job.
You have two plants of the same age, equidistant from the window. One of them came from the store with bad soil and is wilting.
You’d be a bad gardener to treat them equally. If you want them both to thrive, give the wilting one water and soil as good as the other plant.
💯🎯👍🏼
Yup, this is the difference between Equality and Equity.
Equality would mindlessly lop the legs off tall people to equalize things. Equity would give people a step stool to stand on even ground and get the same view.
Good thing the arborist have been and still are able to consider such things
Probably not a tragedy for those qualified future students who won’t be denied entry based on race
We celebrate the ruling
Doesn't address the problem of mediocre rich students and legacies taking seats from more deserving students.
Uncle Clearance Thom got his. His own self hatred has blinded him. What other reason you have for him marrying that Beast he calls wife. and using his race as to climb the ladder
Tragedy for those who can't cut the mustard
Hey mindless Racist...how are they supposed to make it at all, if They Won't be Hired Anywhere hardly ??? Smh, If you don't know what you"re talking about, stay silent, unless you like being a fool.
And the ones who can cut the mustard
So intelligence and ability aren't valued sufficiently if you lack the means to use it for your society's benefit?
They can always go to work for a commercial deep dive submarine company.
@@james911how so? This is about hiring someone based on the color of their skin not about the most qualified. The SCOTUS just ENDED a RACIST POLICY.
Legacy admissions must be held unconstitutional then per this court’s argument, yet right now are still perfectly legal! Outrageous.
Does legacy have a race factor even the Obama kids benefit from it
No more racism against asians and whites. Does that trigger you?
That would be a separate lawsuit. This is only about base on race.
and which lawsuit has been bought to the court on that issue?
you seem to be confusing the court- a body which can only rule on issues bought to it with congress- a body elected by the people and which can enact and change law as it sees fit. not really complicated this. but of course just more of the leftist attack on the norms of the governance of the country...
Legacy isn't a protected class. That's not something SCOTUS can fix. That's a congress and public issue
It IS unconstitutional. No matter what your opinion on race relations, it was ALWAYS unconstitutional.
Harvards implimentation was illegal
Not to mention racist.
@@imadequate3376 White women benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
White women benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
This is also unconstitutional. They can't tell the colleges what to do, let alone give them tax money, but alas, they do both. I guess this is a little less unconstitutional, though, to the extent that isn't an absolute- which it is.
In response to Elie Mystal's claim that this case wasn't about Asians: Wasn't the Case brought to the Court by Asian families?
They're trying to say they're to dumb to realize they are being used by the big bad Republicans to remove this great wonderful racist thing that harms them
Now every one can be truly proud of their achievements .
yeah, for the majority of them it's : "Congratulations for having very rich parents!"
Some real achievements.
@@jawstrock2215sounds like you’re just bitter you never figured it out
Everyone? So we’re gonna continue to ignore legacy admissions?
Ignorant 🙄
@@The_Real_RJ Sounds like your oblivious to reality for anyone who doesn't look like you👍
How is it a tragedy for those that are discriminated against in college admissions?
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
Tragedy is only for the lazy people!
"The court strikes down institutional racism...this is a travesty." - Mehdi Hasan
50 years of beating up on white males by minorities and feminists, and now LGBTQ, and they all thought it was going to go on forever? I've seen masses of minorities spit on the outstretched hand up because it was white. And I too have a dream one day my four little children will be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. Amen, Dr. King.
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Not when whites are still the majority at both schools, even with affirmative action in effect! Whites know they will be chosen over others because of their race, but get mad when they believe others are doing it!
You dumb if you think affirmative action means people get picked just cause they black and not qualified.
What that Dilbert guy said.
Yes 🤣🤣🤣
He racist junk.
Yep. Just get away from them.
The true racist are losing their 💩over this!😂
No most I see are pretty happy they stopped affirmative action. They are glad now because they can not hire minorities and lie and say they were not accepted because they were not qualified when really they didn't want them their because the color of their skin. Of yeah I'm being sarcastic. I get your calling people who support affirmative action racist.
Says the real racist.
This is not a tragedy, this is equality.
It would be, but we aren't there yet. Generations were discriminated against for years. In the form of financial, education and opportunity. We are not equal yet. This decision just takes us backwards ....again.
@@scoobydoo3928 I can only speak from my personal experience but all my black friends both born here and born elsewhere (mainly Nigeria) are doing well. Educated and have good paying jobs. We've had conversations about this and none of them say they've been discriminated against as far as pay, loans or opportunities but they are all very driven people. They have all told me that they have faced racism from individuals at some point during daily interactions.
@@mance985 Thankfully, your anecdote means less than nothing.
Statistically black people are overwhelmingly the target of institutional discrimination for almost day 1. This has a withering effect of the population's ability to achieve their life goals vs groups that don't have this boot on their back and gun to their head.
I'm a black man and i have known that affirmative action was unconstitutional. You can't say that discrimination is unconstitutional and then turn around and say discrimination in favor of certain races aren't. These people are clowns.
Hispanic, and I agree. These people are delusional. You get what you work for and the color of your skin shouldn't matter. No shortcuts to the top because your of any race. This is going on in the job places in the professional sector as well. They're also attempting to push identity politic propaganda disguised as harassment training. It's getting out of control.
It is not discrimination to insist that black people are considered for admissions to help balance the education opportunities typically available to white folks or the wealthy. It is in fact the oppositie. It is making sure black folks are not overlooked because of their race.
We will see a return to a larger imbalance of black acceptances. Rolling back the clock doesn't help make things more fair. It returns it to olden times...
please explain how the 14th amendment is unconstitutional... it's literally a part of the constitution
@abxyreviews5701 Try that nonsense with someone else. The 14th amendment expressly speaks about equality. Not special treatment for some over others. It also only speaks in terms of what the government is allowed to do. It says nothing about mandating businesses or colleges to provide any special treatment to any citizens. Actually, the word business or college, or any iterations of the like, are not mentioned in any of the sections of the amendment.
@@thejavilobby so any words not in the constitution don't apply? that sure excludes a lot from all laws. originalists sound so stupid. also, whites getting special treatment for 400 years in literally every aspect of society (especially in the constitution) still hasn't been equalled out. pretending race doesn't matter won't magically make it not matter.
Institutionalized racial discrimination is wrong.🤷♂🇺🇸
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
It's only wrong when it doesn't exclusively benefit Whyte people?
@@Based_Proletariat Say goodbye to your Black Privilege...🇺🇸😂
One World. One Humanity. ONE FAMILY.
Amen.
Please we will never be one race of people as long as there is racists people.
It's time for higher "education" in this country to be burned to the ground and rebuilt.
RAISE THE GRADE QUAILIFICATIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DROPED BECAUSE OF BLACKS
Does that mean I've gotta finish paying off my gender ideology degree?😮
Wow, Don King is still alive!
Excellent
It will be interesting to see what the fallout will be.
Give it 20 years the white people that are celebrating this ruling now will be asking for affirmative action when Ivy league schools are 60/70 percent non white.
Why should we strive for diversity before the best students? Race should never be a factor in jobs why should it be in college admissions?
Thank God this horrible policy is gone. I haven't agreed with much of anything the SC has ruled on these days, but this ruling is way overdue. Making non-ethnic kids pay for the sins of the past is absolutely absurd and wrong. "...a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" - AA does exactly the opposite of what MLK wanted.
What is "non-ethnic"?
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
The God of the Bible doesn't hold your values, read the Bible.
Please don't fool yourself into believing you understand what Dr King was talking about -- plenty of Caucasian people get it wrong. If you've never been passed over while clearly qualified, then can you afford to make the assumption about the purpose of affirmative action based on race -- a man made construct.
You really haven't a clue. I served on admissions for my med school as a student. Everyone meets a basic level to be in the acceptable applicant pool. After that all factors are weighed race, gender, socio economic level, family structure(single parents), hardships, extracurriculars, references, essays, interviews, etc.. You have fallen for the con that people are accepted because of race & they are not qualified. If you really think the best based on "merit", which is the montra spouted, usually defined on scores / GPA is what happens, you're absolutely misguided. It's very subjective after the baseline criteria of being in the pool of acceptable candidates is met. AA allows the consideration of race as the country was founded & continues to perpetuate systemic racism & white privilege, which this decision protects
When MSNBC gets their panties in a bunch, you know something Good has happened.
Rainbow panties got soiled
When C. Kirk likes something it means it's extremely dangerous.
EXACTLY😂😂😂 It's Hilarious to watch The Meltdowns
@@ryblack5032
I'm gonna need a larger Leftest Tears Tumbler.
@@stevenwiederholt7000 The Tears Are SO Delicious 😋😋😋😋😋😋
Well RBG should have retired when asked but she put herself above the rest of us and now here we are.
Yeah, all these guys credibility has never been intact so caring about their opinion is not something smart people would do.
So? you don't like them because of politics, I assume.
@@oprrrah3498 The issue lies with them pushing their OPINION as fact, knowing that most people wont do their own research or due diligence. Bias is ok, if not unavoidable in humanity, to an extent, but only IF its stated as such! That is why all mainstream media is without much credibility in my view. Those days are long gone, if they ever were. All I ask is for every single person on the planet to do their own research when they hear 'news' before just believing it. That research need not take up too much time but it should be complete from sources on right, left and center and to take into account their biases as well, stated or not - essentially DONT BE GULLIBLE FOR THE SAKE OF CONFIRMING YOUR OWN BIAS. I would hope thats not a statement you have conflict with? I know Mehdi would, although he'd have some clever insult to cover him from having to explain it, such as 'your a racist, bigot' and all the rest which theyve rendered meaningless, sadly!
👉 Now black students know they earned their seat on merit!
Which black students? Otherwise, you're making a huge, and dare I say bigoted, unfounded assumption.
There's a lot more than just academic ability to get into Harvard. It's about who you know rather than what you know.
Only racist say that. Thanks for the heads up of who you are. You have no idea how it actually works.
@@simongoh9461 That a different issue, and, guess what, you'll never get rid of it. Money talks. Just look at Harvard's endowment.
It's a step in the right direction, that's for certain. Merit should always be favored over any immutable characteristics. It was foolish to believe that any progress can be made by discriminating students based on their race. All it did was mask problems, create division, and facilitate unqualified professionals.
Good. Now universities can focus on MERIT being the main factor. Not your skin color. Thanks 👍
Not while "legacy" admissions still happen.
@@dionysuseros7423You are correct, at need to go after that next
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
@@dionysuseros7423that’s not a thing
@@ThisisKyle Don't lie, you love that sort of way to get into school.
Yes …. It’s terrible for people to get admitted to college based on merit only and not their skin color.
Indeed how awful right?
it's the other way around, they were being refused on the color of their skin, even if they have the merit.
@@jawstrock2215 yes, Asians and Europeans were refused because of their skin because colleges were forced to accept less qualified Africans
OmG, pull your head out.
Do you really believe a black student with the same GPA as a white student will be picked to attend over the white student?? No. 99% of the time, No.
But it's much more than that. It starts in elementary schools. Most black communities have been given less money for schools, teachers, and after school programs. This has been the way since the Civil War.
It started to keep the black population less educated than the white population and continues to this day. Especially in southern states.
Affirmative action was a way to equal things out, an attempt at fairness. Now they take that away too.
Women and POC are being reduced to 2nd class citizens again. Soon they'll try to actually own us, like a car or a table, just like their white ancestors.
Give it 20 years the white people that are celebrating this ruling now will be asking for affirmative action when Ivy league schools are 60/70 percent non white.
1st step of many to make America truly equal...
In your dreams
Riiight....as if America is even on that path now with Republican repressive policies
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
I thought that too at first....they don't care about equality, they want the other races to think that it is a progress, when it is a set back....
Some are more equal than others in your fantasy world.
How can one separate one's experience as an individual from one's race? It's self defining, isn't it? And for some of us much more than others.
Everyone has to do what’s required to qualify for admission regardless of personal challenges.
@@ericeandco Hi there, as someone who teaches students how to get into Harvard (and Princeton and Yale and Columbia, etc.), I'd like to ask--do you even know what these admissions officers are looking for? Like, when you say, "everyone has to do what's required", do you have any idea what you're talking about? Because it sounds like you have no idea, and you're just using sweeping values statements.
When it comes to "what's required" to go to certain schools--it's not just grades and test scores. The reason why they care so much about race is because it's VITAL to have enough students of color on campus to accurately reflect the country. There are so many things that racial diversity teaches a student body that cannot be taught from scores alone, and that is part of why it's so sad that it can no longer be factored into the decision making.
"Supreme Court bans racism. Democrats furious."
There, I fixed it for you.
YES!
They Can't ban Racism, even the Court is Racist
delusional
Supreme Court Rightwing activist judges end settled law to slowly reinforce white supremacy.
@@funicon3689 Cat's got your tongue doesn't it. Lol
So colleges are no longer allowed to discriminate against people due to their race, religion, etc anymore... why is everyone so mad. Now you’re getting students based on ability, no matter the color
Read what Harvard was doing. SCOTUS should have clarified
Because Democrats are racist.
@@theresebortzfield188 If they were doing something wrong, they should be accountable. But allowing all colleges to be racist wasn’t the answer.
@@CircusOfValues-BH486 No, AA spat in the face of the definition of equal rights. It’s not equal if someone gets preference due to pigment
Blacks will now have to identify as trans for preferential college admission. 😂
Unfortunately they'd probably have better luck doing that.....they are going backwards....
Gotta admire that
Trump University pride,
Go Traitors !
MAGA Dum Loudly
We'll just write white with. A swastika next to it, that should allow all of us a full ride
You wanted to say "n*ggers", didn't you?
You know that's not true.
Giving the opportunity to the most qualified candidates is greater than diversity.
That is a fact!!!
I'd agree if you got rid of legacy students. Otherwise what you just said is BS
@@southwestkinema9149 Yes legacy admissions have to go too.
Good. I was a victim of reverse discrimination under affirmative action. My friend and I went for a city job. I got a much higher score on my test but was set aside because of my race. My friend went on to the next phase.
This has happened untold millions of times over the decades. Sad it went on for so long.
See how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot
@@verawallace9055 that doesnt make it right or just.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
-MLK
So in the meanwhile, let's do NOTHING and hope for the best!
Translation…a racist is upset that legalized racism is no longer legal
Read a history book about racism in America. Stop being ignorant.
@@southwestkinema9149
Tell that to Hesan, who should know about racism elsewhere.
Okay. If you're going to get rid of affirmitive action, then maybe look at improving the quality of education in public schools, especially in those districts where the majority of students are from poorer communities, usually communities of colour. Because, until you improve the quality of education in those communities, the people living there won't have the same educational opportunities as those people who live in wealthier communities.
For a start, you could reform school funding, by doing away with property taxes as the main source of funding, and instead have the state provide more equitable funding across all schools.
Some states already have a separate school tax. Not sure how they improve public education. True school choice may be the better option.
You do realize colleges already take into consideration your income (not for scholarships) and where you came from (not for in state preference) right?
There is argument to be made they should look at that more heavily but they already do look at that and are still allowed to. Issue is the schools don't actually care about diversity just the perception of them trying to achieve it
@@composmentis170 I'm talking about public schools, not universities. How can you average student from a poor community expect to get into university on just merit, when the schools they have access to are neither well funded, nor geared towards offering an education that can build up a student's merit?
It's all well and good to limit university access based on merit earned at school. But when so many students can't even earn it because the schools they attended aren't up to snuff, then you either have to widen access to universities, or you bring all schools up to a standard that produces students with the merits to get into university.
@@Ngamotu83 as I said colleges take that into consideration. School districts are ranked and schools recieve funding based on their ranking. Colleges recueve applicants from students and are able to see what highschool and district they are graduating from. With that info they can see if that school is underfunded. If you exceeded at an underfunded school you will be weighted more heavily than a student that did just as well at a better funded higher ranked school. Similarly they look at your economical status. What chances you had that you're parents could've gotten you tutors and additional help. Poorer family with a kid that got a B average will be weighted as being better than a lucrative family with a child earning a B average.
How much it is weighted varies by school but these are measurable things
@@Ngamotu83 “…..That one you tried too get too understand is just truly a highly lost cause, will never comprehend the merit of education in different neighborhoods because I can guarantee you that they’ve never had on those pair of shoes”!!! “….Turned right around and used what you tried too get across and made it fit too their narrative, like it’s a better idea for a lessor quality of education and the standards of the bar too fit because a child did good in a underserved school but it’s equal too a child whom did the same or not fair as well from a school whom provided better education….SMGDH”!!! G-MOMMEE
Don't you just hate it when you have to play from a level playing field and actually have to earn your way...!
When has the playing field ever been level? Maybe for you but not for "us"
@Zigest absolutely not, this black girl come from a 2 parent home. My dad retired from the medical field. Made sure his children were educated. 4 siblings in the medical field, 1 sibling in business. My niece is a medical doctor, financed entirely by her dad, My brother. My other 2 nieces are doctorate degree holders. No hand outs in this family. Hard work and love and a little luck. Having said that, not everyone is as fortunate as we are and I know first hand that the playing field is not leveled. I have empathy for other human beings, which is a characteristic that my parents instilled in all of their children.
A tragedy for that one Asian kid who now gets to go to Harvard because he deserves it.
Would Mehdi support admissions based on hair color or eye color? Obviously he wouldn't, because it'd be stupid. Admissions based on skin color is just as stupid.
Racial diversity does not matter. At all.
Skills matter.
This is a great day for EQUALITY!!!
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
Thing is, if I am somehow, I am in a rainstorm, but miraculously, "...not getting wet..." then actually in such an unreal situation, why would I need an umbrella?
Good! Whats wrong with merit?
So what's wrong with equality?
It's not equality when you don't have the same access to education or tutoring to get those perfect SAT scores. It's not equality when that disadvantage has been sewn into the fabric of our society ever since one group of people was enslaved and the other profited off that labor. It's not equality when that profit becomes the generational wealth that allows one group to afford good schooling and the other group not to. It's not equality to dismantle affirmative action, even though, on the surface, it sounds like it. That's why so many people are having a hard time understanding.
@yesreneau it's equality when you discriminate your fellow man, it doesn't matter the color of the skin
It is long overdue. Affirmative action has been racism for a very long time. Admission should be by merit and grades for everyone. Work hard and get good grades. That goes for everyone.
Then why do we still have "legacy" admissions?
@@dionysuseros7423 Shh, we don't point out legacy admissions of sports scholarships when wheeling out the tired old meritocracy argument.
@@dionysuseros7423cause colleges like haravard don't actually care about diversity, just the perception of trying to achieve it. The justices even poked at Harvard for that. They want diversity but stockpile a bunch of enrolment slots based on legacy which has 0 meritorious component. Only issue is its not illegal to discriminate on legacy so it might not be able to be stopef in the court. It just makes the college look bad for implementing such a thing
@johnqpublic that's just racist babble.
College is not for everyone
It's a tragedy that we will be treating everyone equally?
"Michelle Obama, who said "my heart breaks" for young people who are "wondering what their future holds" after the decision."
What their future holds is the opportunity to work hard and earn a spot in college like everyone else.
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years? Most people who get into those schools are simply able pay their way to get in. (White )
Oh, like blacks don't work hard? Racist much?
He's a dude
See, things like that are why you get called a racist. Affirmative action was never about 4.0gpa white kids getting turned away for 1.9gpa black kids. The fact that you think it was is why we still need it.
Nobody gives A.F. what " BIG MIKE" has to say 🤭 Affirmative action WAS a RACIST LAW. And only EVER been supported by racist white liberals who believe the only way blacks can compete is with special help from whites and worthless race baiting grifters like al sharpton and joy reed 😂
Grandaddy can still buy college admissions and grades. Introduce a bill that's called Admissions And Employment Based On Factual, Provable Intellectual Ability, Honesty & Integrity. That disqualifies all of the Republican presidential candidates.
Pretty ignorant post.
I hope you realize how that'd be more harmful to minorities than to Caucasians and Asians. Here's two timestamps in the video that demonstrate that issue (3:16 and 4:28).
The first, sorta hints at it. If you don't look at race they can't get enough minorities to satisfy their desire for a critical mass at competitive schools.
The second really destroys itself in what it infers about black and Hispanic applicants. If you were only able to secure a spot into a school over a "mediocore white" applicant due to your skin alone what's that suggest about those students? They're implying there are barely any minority students that can surpass even the most mediocre of white applicants on a meritorious basis. The only thing your proposed act would do is keep Lori Loughin's kids out of Ivy league schools.
@user-ih5vf4xg4h unlike achieving a particular melatonin level, sports are actually a skill that attribute towards a meritorious entry
America giving citizenship didn't give you the right to try to undermine Constitution. Citizenship can be stripped.
At this point dont go to the school. Spend your money at an HBCU.
likewise we will have to
Black Brilliance will Breakthrough regardless to whether these schools accept them or not. It will make us strive harder, in our striving, we will become better as a people! 💯
......yeah.....from Nigeria.
Good
tru dat
It's not about race.....it's about who deserves it. Doesn't matter what color the person is. If someone is brilliant, they will succeed.
That's the point dummy
Sorry racists, you lost today, but that doesn't mean you gotta like it.
No one should get a free lunch
Everyone agrees that Asian students have been treated unfairly. Let’s see what will happen.
Looking forward to the many precedents this supreme court will be setting over the next few decades... 🇺🇸
Looking forward to term limits and 13 on the Supreme Court to end the fascist and racist majority's attempt to take America back into the 19th Century!
Many More Beautiful Decisions to Come❤❤❤
It is about time this injustice has been struck down!!!
Give it 20 years the white people that are celebrating this ruling now will be asking for affirmative action when Ivy league schools are 60/70 percent non white.
At least we all know the destruction of Babylon pertains to us in the scriptures because of Them.End days we need to pray.🙏
Nice fairy tale.
Cannot legislate equality.
Affermative action is literally the most racist thing....... thank you supreme court keep protecting our rights
The case was about discriminating against AAPI students and they couldn't get one from that category to discuss this case.
That would make too much sense for this channel
I know! If only there was some kind of law, maybe, that said that, while they were trying to get the best commentators for the segment, they should also aim for diversity. Oh, well.
The repeal of the law will affect black Americans, too, and Mehdi, himself, is Asian, so... 🤷♀️
@@MemeMemeson Who is an American?
@@MemeMemeson You didn't answer the question. Who is an American? That was not a multiple choice question with Trevor Noah and Mehdi's name in it.
Very simple question "Who is an American"
Forget college sports dynasties in those states.
Sports are still able to be considered meritoriously anyways
🤷🏾♂️ then I guess we need to study harder? I’d rather know I earned it and not that I was the right color to get it.
“Ignoring race just makes it matter more.” How does that make any sense?
It's getting real interesting .. Watching Joe lash out at reporters when asked about his family's racketeering activities.
They're not true; I'd lash out, too, but I am sure you're not interested in facts.
@@dannmarceau Correct, the facts are not true.
Ah, the Biden Crime Family... they are something else.
California literally had a ballot measure in 2020 on this and it lost badly
Turns out when you pose affirmative action as helping underrepresented groups versus giving preferential ratial treatment public opinion drastically changes
Good!
What a shame. Now people will have to actually study and have qualifying grades.
Poor white people. So oppressed.
Like Trump and Bush did?
Who cares about either of them.
My Vietnamese uncle got in Cornell full scholarship due to affirmative action. He did deserve Cornell as he graduated with a 5.0 GPA and was valedictorian. His teacher had to nominate him so he could become Valedictorian as the students wouldn't. He also did have extra curricular activities. I had Vietnamese friends who were deferred from Harvard but even though denied, they still went to a top 40 schools as had a wide variety of extra curricular activities on top of good grades.
If he was so great he wouldn’t have needed affirmative action. He would have got in. Colleges want brilliant, well rounded graduates that will get great jobs and strengthen the reputation of the college.
@@ericeandco Him being valedictorian helped him get in and small part of him open to trying new extra curricular activities not academic related. He only got valedictorian as his teacher was able to nominate him. Students were only voting for the whitte students often popular. He was the only non-whitte student nominated as his favorite teacher kept fighting for him and listed offenses for any nominee he knew about. Offenses like detention, cutting class, cheating, etc. When he was at Cornell, he met a bunch of other students with 5.0 GPA’s and almost all weren’t Asian.
@xwrtk Amazing story! Kudos to that professor and your relative for sojourning through. Some people just candle handle or understand something they never had to experience.
The left is super butt-hurt on this one. Good job SCOTUS. Keep it going.
Maybe not even what they want, but perhaps what they have been compensated for by some of their numerous billionaire friends/donors to carry out this action.!
Doe this ruling affect college athletics like men's or women basketball?
Probably not… they’ll make sure to offer scholarships to those kids who are going to benefit their programs… it’s the ones who are only going for academics who would have to worry.
I love that actual equality bothers them so much. You are not the good guys. Nice that they finally uphold the civil rights act of 64' . There were decades of precedent for slavery too. Doesn't mean it's right.
Didn't somebody have a dream about this back in the 60s?
Maybe you should learn more about Martin Luther King dream for black people before you try and bring him up.
@@apriljordan9985 I've learned enough to know he said that he dreamt that his children wouldn't be judged by the color of their skin and should be judged by the content of their character. I'll go ahead and assume that he wanted the same for everyone else too. It doesn't take a Nobel Prize winner to understand that affirmative action is in opposition to this dream.
I think affirmative action doesn’t actually help that much. Why not give more funding to poorer schools and let the results do the talking. I think in Norway private schools are illegal and school funding is not based on local property values.
A racist society that was founded on the genocide of the natives and the chattel slavery of Africans where the wealthy are overwhelmingly white are not going to approve additional funding to poor neighborhoods, or change how schools are funded. This neglect is by design.
The solution is simple but they simple do not want to do it.
They already can take into consideration an applicants location and what that infers, district school ranking/funding. Perhaps they need to weight it more heavily
It's 100% unconstitutional. Everyone deserves to be judged on their merits.
And if all colleges are full of only Asian people then so be it. They deserve it. Work harder like they do
Lol, but when Trump is judged for his “merits” you mofos storm the capitol?🤔 As long as the rich privileged white boy gets away with it right? Gtfoh
Goodbye, Institutional Racism. RIP Affirmative Action. College Admission should be like NBA.
Happy today? One step closer to Jim Crow coming back, so you love it, don't you. Proud to be Racist should be a bumper sticker on your car.
Sports has no affirmative action? How come?
I know a married white couple who donate yearly to the UAB. Three out of 4 children attended UAB. Only one of their sons had the grades to get into UAB on a academic base concept. Only 2 sons graduated, another became academically ineligible, and the youngest goes to trade school. 🤷
AND NONE OF YOURS QUAILIFIED?
@@markjapan4062 I have 3 daughters who all graduated from college. Ouch 🫨
Tragedy for all of us!! Well... Except for the kid that graduated with a 4.0 but his last name is Zhang not Jackson 😅
Your racism is why affirmative action is needed. So many in these comments doubt our qualifications even with a 4.0. Being looked at as less than isn't easy. No one is asking for special treatment just to be treated equally.
@@willgetbettereventually124 Many people look at a poc in college and immediately assume that student is only there because of affirmative action. Now, a black or brown student will be looked at like they EARNED their place and it wasn't given
@@willgetbettereventually124You dont care that Zheng was treated equally though do you?
Because the college system WAS racist towards him, why no pity for him?
@@willgetbettereventually124iterally not true. The average black Harvard student is admitted with noticeably lower scores. Your comment shows you don’t even understand what affirmative action was for
You really haven't a clue. I served on admissions for my med school as a student. Everyone meets a basic level to be in the acceptable applicant pool. After that all factors are weighed race, gender, socio economic level, family structure(single parents), hardships, extracurriculars, references, essays, interviews, etc.. You have fallen for the con that people are accepted because of race & they are not qualified. If you really think the best based on "merit", which is the montra spouted, usually defined on scores / GPA is what happens, you're absolutely misguided. It's very subjective after the baseline criteria of being in the pool of acceptable candidates is met. AA allows the consideration of race as the country was founded & continues to perpetuate systemic racism & white privilege, which this decision protects.
I have served on admissions for my med school. I know how it works. I know other people that serve at the undergrad level. Asians admission levels are hurt cause they do poorly compared to many others on subjective factors, interpersonal skills, empathy, etc..I have seen many recommendations that are non descriptive that give no insight & just talk of grades, which will already know. Also, they often over manicure their extracurriculars. This also can often be obvious via many activities with no long term follow thru or leadership positions. Also, some of the essays & interviews are poor on why they want to attend, goals & what they will bring to the school beyond grades. Schools want a community of people, not those that sit in their rooms, just study & talk to just their ethnic group. This is something I have experienced as an undergrad/grad student in engineering & as a med student.
It’s a tragedy that the scales aren’t going to be tipped in favor a particular skin color anymore. An absolute travesty! 😏
It never was and never will be in favour of Black people, it's a design System of Superiority
2:44 diversity for the sake of it is racist. If African admittance decreased it just shows how much privilege they had before
I am not mad at this decision. Years ago I benefitted from Affirmative Action by being admitted to higher institutions of learning. In the last 30 or so years, speaking solely about my black people, younger black people have not taken advantage of AA and instead have taken it for granted.
and the goons are going belligerent! Because the highest court just slapped them with common sense!!!
It's not common sense. It's not even justice by actual standards.
@@ruiferreira6578 what LOW standards do you need !
Theyre literally morning the death of a racist law?
White people benefitted from affirmative action the most. And we’re you calling it black privilege when only white peoples could attend college for hundreds of years?
So these news reporters mad that theres not enough "diversity".
Tf. They should be asking if those people are qualified.
Institutional racism took an L today!!!
Study outside the USA. It is cheaper and provides a better multi cultural background for future profesionals. US universities are overrated over price to quality.
100% this.
Wait…you mean…people wont be admitted over other students because of the color of their skin? Oh dear how awful. How dreadfully….equal.
If only it was like that in the beginning of America…hmm… pot meet kettle
No, we're back to the old system: Jim Crow.
Right, now Universities can stick with what really matters. Letting in the kids of their friends, letting in student athletes who can make their universities millions of dollars, letting in students whose families offer the university hefty bribes, and then letting in students based on merit - so long as the university likes the cut of your jib. Fair and equitable.
@@roarinwaters33 The world is moving and going forward. No one is going to wait for you to catch up.
@@oprrrah3498 you say the same thing like you can ignore the past and act like it didnt influence anything today. I’m not asking for anyone to wait because it seems like im the only one with some distance ahead because i realize how the past affects the future and that people are still bigoted no matter what time period it is
All black athletes should stop going to discriminating schools. The UCLA football team would look a lot different and the cash cow sports programs would hopefully belly up.
It’s okay to reverse rulings when you get it right this time