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It's been a year and the strings that bonded this theory together finally came close to being true. edit: something's brewing, and I'm not sure if it really is true. Guess we'll wait for updates, my bad for jumping into conclusions!
I've always felt aoyama or hakagure was the traitor. I more fell towards hakagure and I was right. I've always had a bad feeling with her and everything about her just seemed so suspicious
There's a couple of notes that further solidify that Toru is suspicious. 1. I find it unlikely that she was with Todoroki at USJ. The first thing he did was freeze everything, which would have included her if she was there. 2. Everywhere I look, her quirk is always listed as invisibility. So how in the hell can she lightbend? Sure quirks evolve, but are you gonna tell me she just woke up and realized, "oh, I can bend light"? Also, remember who the boss of the League is, and what he can do. How can we be sure she has only 1 quirk, especially since she showed off a power somewhat unrelated to invisibility. 3. While I'm sure those robots in the entrance exam had off switches, recall how those things were being destroyed left and right. Not enough time to locate a tiny switch. So either she knew where the switches were, or she destroyed them some other way.
1. Yeah, that was originally in my video, but I didn't feel like talking about it...even though it was quite noteworthy to point out. 2. We all originally thought she only had the power to go invisible until she showcased the power to refract light in the provisional exam arc. It makes sense since the class were assigned with creating their own special move and she probably unlocked that potential around that time. 3. I mean idk, I just got the info from Hiro's Q&A
@@Mrcoffeestuff Other points are: 1: There was no reason for hagakure to have casually heard where exactly ojiro was during the usj incident, literally right after the villains left. Also, it IS kinda odd that the show literally emphasized the fact that todoroki did not see her, and probably would’ve frozen her. Honestly, looking back at the hero team vs villain team training that was shown before (in this case todoroki and shoji vs ojiro and hagakure), todoroki easily froze her, and there is almost no chance the same thing wouldn’t have happened in the landslide zone. 2: That whole “light refracture” thing can easily be classified as an emitter quirk, when her quirk is clearly mutation. Now, we have seen other mutation quirk heroes do emitter type stuff (like gang orcas sound waves), but this isn’t something that would go hand in hand with invisibility, like gang orcas sound waves would with his orca quirk. Generally the whole quirk just doesn’t make sense. Why would she have any interaction with light, SHES INVISIBLE, her quirk in fact makes it so that move makes even less sense. 3: She was especially concerned when Aizawa said the person who got last in the quirk apprehension test would be expelled, like unusually concerned. Being expelled would be especially problematic if she was the U.A. traitor. 4: This doesn’t prove anything, since this applied to more people than not; but i will point out; when they were going to agencies in season two, we did not know where hagakure was
@@purplegrass5598 1. Yeah, that was originally in the script but for some reason I removed it...I regret it now 2. I want to say that her invisibility is a passive ability that can't be turned off and her quirk may have really been the ability to manipulate light but I don't remember anything 3. Good catch but to be fair it's expulsion for failing a test 4. This part was actually in my draft but too little info on everyone's respective internships
@@purplegrass5598 my theory is that some kind of light manipulation is her true quirk. She's simply refracting light to appear invisible, which is to hide her true identity and disguise as the "invisibility" girl. Her light powers is proof her invisibility may not actually be a mutant or permanent quirk as she suggests... Makes sense considering Mirio can't see when he uses his quirk since light passes through his retinas. So Toru shouldn't be able to see if she was truly invisible
PJ B Yeah, i feel like toru has the potential to have an emitter, transform, or mutant quirk. Transform is a bit less likely, since the light refracture move wouldn’t rlly make sense, but it’s totally possible for her to have an emitter class quirk that allows her to interact with light in some way. She may even be able to stop being a invisible if her quirk is emitter.
She's lying about her quirk: invisibility. We have enough canon material to say she's lying through her teeth. Being passively invisible, with no way to turn it off, would be an inherited mutant appearance if it's not killing her. Think Tokoyami's bird head. He has a bird head but no bird related quirk powers. This is very common. However, like Tsuyu, if you have a real Mutant Quirk and not an inherited appearance you can control your quirk to some extent and it's related to whatever you mutation is. You get a whole slew of auxiliary powers based on your mutated apperance, unlike Tokoyami. But Tsuyu has the same weaknesses as a frog, unlike Tokoyami. Mutant quirks are passive skills that do not need to be turned on or off, you just have it. However, Emitter Quirk's like Tokoyami allow for outright manipulation of things like Darkness. If light passes through you all the time, this means you're not interacting with electromagnetic radiation, at least the kind we can see. This is actually a huge problem, think Mirio, but being unable to to metabolize Vitamin D from sunlight, nor being able to be warmed up by radiated heat. This would be lethal if you had it for so long. Yet, we see that she can refract light however she pleases. If her quirk was Mutant: Invisibility, she'd be stuck with this weakness passively forever. But she's not. This means that light isn't the only electromagnetic energy she can refract through her body, but whenever she's awake she likely also has to consciously redirect UV and other necessary energy into her body. This means she can also be a signal jammer, by just refracting electromagnetic radiation through her body to create a counterpulse for radio signals. Her invisibility is a passive inherited appearance, her real quirk is electromagnetic manipulation so this invisibility doesn't outright kill her over time. She's an Emitter, not Mutant. Furthermore, she claimed to have seen Shoto and Ojiro during USJ, already suspicious on its own because they're on opposite sides of eachother. But if you're going to jam a signal, being in the very center of the building is optimal. And since they're on opposite sides if she's in the center she likely could have walked to either location to gather info and still retain her signal jamming attempts intact.
I think Hagekure is the smart choice for the traitor and Kaminari is the twist choice. Hagakure is the smart choice because we don't really know much about her and she is often forgotten about in scenes unless you stop to think about here she was. Having her be the traitor would be smart for the plot and the fans because there wouldn't be too much backlash. Kaminari is still plausible, but it would be a major twist to the fans and the inner social dynamic of 1A. He is a popular character, part of the Bakusquad and a ship may have just sailed if you read the manga. The characters and fans would be crushed if he was the traitor and it would effect the rest of the story from here on out. I think either would make a good traitor tbh. It just depends on what kind of fallout Horikoshi is willing to go for.
Hmm....after the most recent development with him in the manga I no longer consider him a suspect, but the traitor hasn't been revealed yet (if there is one) so I guess we can't completely count him out. If Toru turns out to be the traitor, we definitely need to see more of who she is before the reveal
I also heard that Kaminari was originally supposed to be a villain with black hair and a yellow lightning bolt so there’s that... also having him as a villain would be pretty cool and funny and it would allow some good moments where he gives his all and loses to the heroes because of his stupidity! 🤣🤣
I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into it, but since you mention her ranking... she is ranking 16, her seat number is 16 and her birthday is 16 of june. I was trying to find some meaning to that number. In tarot 16 is "the tower" means missery, distress, indigence, adversity, calamity, disgrace, deception, ruin. Also, her star sign is Gemini, which symbol is twins. So now I'm wondering if they were trying to convey her double personality, does she actually have a twin? Or is just a coincidence.
Great observation! This definitely had to be intentional, but the next question would be: Will it carry any significance for her character or foreshadow any upcoming events in relation to Toru? If it does, I'm obligated to sub to you. This is a L from Death Note kind of observation.
I feel like if anyone in class 1-A is the traitor it would be her, and I don’t understand the Kaminari theory, cause he’s super loyal, not the brightest person, and has a most likely canon crush on Jiro. I’d be devastated if anyone of them is the traitor since I have 6 ships. Toru x Ojiro, Uraraka x Midoriya, Momo x Todoroki, Mina x Kirishima, Tsuyu x Tokoyami, and my all time favorite MHA ship which is Jiro x Kaminari
I have a lot to say about Kaminari but here is a short version; He can jam and send signals with his quirk and many times he could have stopped signals (USJ) and sent (Summer Camp)
A while ago (when the matter was new) I remember a topic in which people said that in the Japanese fandom they were very suspicious of Toru and the reason was curious, something about being invisible that you couldn't see his face and that was ominous, or not having a shadow was a way of saying that it hid its darkness and other things like that.
I made a theory that Hagekure is descended from the glowing baby in Qinq Qing China at the start of the manga. Their quirks both have to deal with light, and possibly the manipulation of how we view light. Also if Horikoshi is leaving us a hint there was a specific volume/chapter that had the characters in martial art outfits and Hagekure wore a traditional chinese outfit(I think it's called a qipao or something)
But that baby was the first person with a quirk and we learn from Izukus mom that I think she is a 3rd-4th generation quirk user which would make deku and his class a 4th-5th quirk user???
i’ve always thought that hagakure always acted the way she did to stand out. she knows that people forget about her, so she tries to stand out with her personality. idk if that holds any merit though, just my own personal theory :)
Most def! Her quirk most likely shaped her bubbly, perky personality. When you're permanently invisible, but you don't want to be forgotten you have to make yourself stand out
She wore a sleeveless shirt, so she could cover her nose and mouth to inhale the toxic gas and no one would notice, no one would notice that she was pretending to be passed out because her eyes cannot be seen, she could have inhaled the gas enough not to become unconscious , so as not to affect her health at all and but a good much for the doctors detecting the presence of gas in her, but since Momo put a gas mask on them, it would explain why she did not inhale more, and her apparent weakness in combat explains why it was possible having "passed out" with so little gas in her system. Shoji has a tragic past that we already know and that would fit into being a villain, and Denki also has those details from the mangaka's drawings, but Hagakure has both details, the mask of his first design looks like that of a psychopath or villan, and also like You say She wants recognition but nobody recognizes her, being invisible is bad for her,nobody notices She, not we as spectators, we always tend to forget about She, not only because it is little mentioned in history but because being invisible, we sometimes forget that it is there, Either because of foolishness on our (my) part, or because it's hard for our brains to grasp something that we can't easily see, but Hagakure might feel bad about it, sad not to be noticed. So that would justify why she left the villain side, but I would still like, due to her relationship with the girls, that they could really change her side to the side of the heroes, it would be an excellent way to give her and the characters some prominence. that less appear in history, like Ojiro, Shoji, Sato, Rikido and Koda. Especially Ojiro for his ship with her, and Shoji because they have been partners, they talk to each other and he trained to find her. Sato simply because it was mentioned by her in an official mangaka one shot, and with that at least she would give something to these characters, in addition to the fact that Toga is the only woman in the league of villains, she is also overcome whenever Tsuyu and Ochako fight together with her. Tsuyu also learned to become invisible, she did not want to be mean to Toru but she could take it the wrong way because as almost nobody pays attention to her, now her novelty of being the invisible girl is lost by Tsuyu, that tells me that Horikoshi is possibly preparing the terrain for her to team up with Toga in a 2 vs 2 battle between them against Ochako and Tsuyu. Denki and Shoji have also sacrificed much more than Hagakure for their peers, Shoji sacrificed an arm, Denki hurt his finger for Kyoka while practicing for the culture festival, Denki did things for Kyoka, and has done things for others, Shoji too saving Mahoro and Katsuma and carrying Midoriya so he wouldn't get hurt or tired anymore. It is clear that it is made for us to doubt them too, but then I remembered, what has Hagakure done for the others? She simply fainted, she could have covered her nose and mouth without being seen, but she has not done something for anyone, not even in the movies, she was always in very safe places, she has not needed to make any sacrifices, worse she has not made an effort to do what. She was a villain against Todoroki in the bomb test with Ojiro, Todoroki froze her and burned her feet, then she was with Todoroki she saw that Todoroki was cruel to the villains, threatened them with death to get information from them, which goes from According to some ideas from the league of villains, she has been being the other happy girl, just like Denki is the other Kirishima, Hagakure is the other Mina, they have that level in the interactions of the room, so ... it is clear that The best thing for the plot and the themes of the ships is that she is the traitor, since you can even get a story from that for the ships.it would be good for her because it would give an interesting little arc to herself and the less reelected characters in the class, such as Ojiro, Shoji, Rikido, and Koda.
Thx for the in-depth comment! You basically could turn your comment into a script for a Toru Traitor Theory video. Take my heart and sorry for the short response but I would like to say that detailed comments like yours keeps us going as content creators (well at least for me).
@@Mrcoffeestuff I don't like making these videos so much, so I prefer to complement the information in a comment. I wish I had a better answer but I guess it's going to have to be thanks In fact I have another theory, which is about a Drama CD where Hagakure invites Uraraka to the Enichi festival, this is TodoMomo fanservice, where by coincidence Yaoyorozu and Todoroki have a kind of date, rather they spend a pleasant time together and accompany each other. In that drama CD, Hagakure sees Todoroki with a girl, although he cannot see who is but later at school she asks Todoroki with Uraraka about who is that girl he was with at the festival. We are no longer told but it is made clear that Todoroki told them was Yaoyorozu, and from there Hagakure has an idea that they like each other and they had a date. At the camp Touya/dabi said that the Nomu only obeyed his orders, and possibly had an order to attack Rag Doll but he could also have had a secondary target due to attacking Momo with more force than Awase. Now that we clearly know the relationship between Touya and Shoto, and the former's intentions to harm his little brother, that make me think that Hagakure told the league that Todoroki had a crush and that's why Touya sent Nomu to hurt and chase Momo. The Nomu was specifically chasing her, Awase was not hurt as much as Momo and Rag Doll. Also, Rag Doll was kidnapped and the nomu did not carry her in his arms, so I think that Kurogiri take her away once she was out of combat. And the Nomu could have helped Touya against the boys who attacked Mr Compress if he had already been with Touya after completing his mission to capture Rag Doll. According to my theory, The nomu is not been there because Touya wanted to morally hurt Shoto by hurting the girl he likes. And that theory is fed because at the festival Enichi Hagakure went with Uraraka, and ate with her, are not told if they talked or what topics they talked about, but they could have done so, so that Hagakure noticed that Uraraka is interested in Deku. Uraraka shows jealousy and clear indications of having a crush on Deku since the sports festival so it is not surprising that something she said in the conversation with Hagakure at the enichi festival made Hagakure realize that crush, because Mina Ashido noticed immediately this when Ochako says lately that his heart was beating faster or something like that. And Ochako hadn't realized that this could be love until Mina suggested it, so Hagakure could have kept quiet and pretended not to realize it, but yes she did. In this way she could have commented something with Aoyama, insinuating that Ochako likes Deku but that perhaps he does not dare to ask her and Aoyama could say "how shy you are my sweet, I can ask her". And she could tell him this when he was alone modeling his cape before the exam against thirteen. In this way, when the league asked her to orchestrate a meeting between Shigaraki and Deku, she could think that embarrassing Ochako for her feelings with Deku could make her move away from him a little enough to clarify her feelings, bear the shame, don't exprese her love for Deku. and a villain visit. At that time Deku could indeed be alone and Shigaraki would have what he wanted, which was to ask him some questions. It is not uncommon for Aoyama to say that "is because you like him?" for his own because he noticed it himself but it would also be possible that Hagakure suggested it to him just to prepare the ground and that Midoriya was alone in the place. Only a girl would know intimate facts such as crushes and dates that can indeed be used to hurt heroes. Gigantomachia is a nomu and he does not move without an order, so the other nomus could be similar, and that nomu from the camp followed Momo because it was between his orders.
@@Mrcoffeestuff XD. I think Hagakure being the traitor could worry many people because her ship but I don't think it will be affected Hagakure has no competition. Personally I like Hagakure more with Shoji although the most popular ship is with Ojiro, but it is because I feel that they understand each other, but Shoji anyway could say that he could fall into the same thing of be a villain because people did not accept him easily but he managed to be a hero, but he understands what she feels like for people to ignore him for his quirk ... but she might have a chance to redeem herself, because there with them she has friends and she will have the attention she wanted, to Bakugo for example, he always treats them wrong and insults them but they still include him and are his friends for they. It is true that the teachers were injured quite a bit and also several students ... but they could save Hagakure because no one has died yet because that she has done and why he appreciate her because she is his nakama he want to save her from that world of villains, that instead of a person becoming bad, a villain becoming good, it would be a triumph for the heroes. And if Ojiro loves her or feels something special for her, he will take that as a pretext to try to save her despite his honor, and if she does not want to be good then arrest her, but if they can convince her to be good and surrender voluntarily to the police ... what better. But if it was good, it could come out shortly, especially if they forgive the charges. With Denki it would be a problem, and his ship with Kyoka would be ruined a lot, because even if Kyoka forgives him, he will remain like another bad boy who becomes good ... and well ... there is a ship between Bakugo and Kyoka so. .. it would be the same, it would not matter if she stayed with Denki or Bakugo .... and I doubt that the fans of Kamijirou would like the idea. That is why Hagakure is the one that best fits.
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I think it’s Hagakure, too How did she even get into U.A? It shows she can’t even do a pull up, let alone fight some robots. ( there must’ve been smoke everywhere due to them falling so there’s really no chance of her seeing it)Her quirk is literally invisibility, with no actual strength. (Just a theory as said, bc Horikoshi said he forgot about it.. and I heard people say that Horikoshi said it was a rumor :pp)
If she is the traitor, she might be with the Leauge and Machia. She could have jumped onto him before he transformed abd destroyed the heroes and could be riding on him somewhere abd waiting for her chance to strike. That is,if she is the traitor.
HIIIII Your theory is true and now thriller i've never notice it at the very beginning until i found out on twitter that she's really a traitor ,nice one
Too late to say this haha but to clear the "Hagakure was knocked down by a villain during the training camp incident"... I don't think the LOV knew anything about a UA traitor called Hagakure Toru. She is probably one of AOF's close friends and AFO didn't reveal all his secrets to Shigaraki so Shigaraki couldn't know either, if Shigaraki didn't know then the rest of the league didn't either. Also, I don't think it's too obvious of Horikoshi to make Hagakure the traitor because everyone was so damn focused on getting the most unpredictable plot twist that they thought "The traitor is not Hagakure she's too obvious" lol
Oh yeah that possibly could be the case I don't think Shigaraki and his gang knew the existence of a planted spy in UA, but I think the has attack gave a prime opportunity for Toru to remove suspicion herself
I feel like she’s the best choice for the traitor, I’d just feel so bad for Ojiro- the only person that pays attention to him was a faking villain all along✋😪
Plot twist: Toru isn't a traitor because she didn't shown on 6:34. She replaces the cameraman. Maybe because the cameraman has a problem or something. And maybe that's also why she's absent during the class election.
YO HOLLUP. ITS 4:39AM AM AS IM TYPING THESE EXACT WORDS AND I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS THEORY AND HAD A THOUGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY SCENES WITH TOGA AND HAGAKURE IN THEM? TOGETHER? WHAT IF HAGAKURE IS TOGA? bit of a stretch but like I can’t think rn but I did have that interesting thought
Not sure if they were ever together in the same scene but I'm pretty certain they're not the same person because they were engaging in different activities within the same time frame (provisional license exam) + the light refraction powers
@@Mrcoffeestuff Turns out she is a red herring, I’m not particularly disappointed but I feel she would be really hard to defeat in battle over time if she was the traitor.
@@Kono_Topi_Da Tbh, it's been years so I don't remember the exact posts but if you watch the most popular Toru Traitor Theory vids then you'll probably find one of them
@@Yorm_ I appreciate your kindness but you don't have to; everyone else already said the same thing. Check the newest comments and you'll be able to see lol
It makes me wonder if Horikoshi is doing this on purpose for us pick up the cookie crumbs, what happens if the traitor is someone else and then Hagakure turns up to be misunderstood. Also within her name as well may be a severe parallel to her quirk. I’m just not sure with this all what happens if the traitor is someone else and Hagakure takes the blame or we are finally revealed about her when it comes to the traitor or after the arc in the manga.
I heard he actually forgot about the traitor storyline like 4 times in the my hero aca subreddit, but they never stated their sources so not sure how accurate or even true that is. We should find out soon if there is one
Mrcoffeestuff Oh he mentioned that was a joke him forgetting the whole traitor thing, probably to lower people’s guards and then reveals it. When it comes to the whole thing it may be Hagakure but I feel like it wouldn’t be shocking. If Hagakure really is the traitor I think somewhat she should’ve made herself more important via giving some tragic backstory and or why she wants to become a hero, it just feels so stale. It makes me wonder if they’re other questionable characters.
Everyone uses the shopping trip, that could be ANYONE because the whole class knew about it, just because she suggested it doesn't mean she arranged Shigaraki's meeting
I'm not trying to hurt y'alls feelings, but let's just keep it a buck for a second. Toru Hagakure is one of the most useless, cookie cutter characters not only in MHA but in anime. She was so useless to the point to where she became a meme character. And to make matters worse is not only the fact that Horikoshi waited 300+ chapters to reveal who the U.A. traitor was but he also chose the most OBVIOUS choice of them all. Like I thought it be Aoyama for a second. Nezu was a decent choice since that could be debatable, invisible chick is way too obvious. Btw this is coming from a big MHA fan
To be fair the Dabi theory was obvious but the execution was done very well so everything really depends on how Hori handles her reveal, motivation and characterization. The execution matters a lot more than the concept/idea (IMO).
Yeah, a lot of people are way too quick to say it's confirmed when it was really just heavily implied. They shouldn't gamble at all. But it's better this way, the new direction holds more weight
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She has been confirmed as All for One's friend in the latest chapter leaks. Congrats!
Yes we trusted her but her smile was always hidden always out of sight. If only we could of scene the evil in her heart .
I guess you could say Hagakure wasn’t being *transparent* with the team. It’s weird they couldn’t figure it out sooner, the answer is so *clear*
Facts plus next chapter we better see her true form I bet shes an adult woman with the size of a high school girl unlike toga is naturally
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It's been a year and the strings that bonded this theory together finally came close to being true.
edit: something's brewing, and I'm not sure if it really is true. Guess we'll wait for updates, my bad for jumping into conclusions!
I've always felt aoyama or hakagure was the traitor. I more fell towards hakagure and I was right. I've always had a bad feeling with her and everything about her just seemed so suspicious
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Turned out it's not
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@@Mrcoffeestuff I'm sry that I spammed cmts🤣 toru is my fav number 1 so Im just making ppl stop 🤣🖐️
This came up onto my recommended a year later after Hagakure was shown to be the traitor, well done for catching that out so long ago !!
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@@williamvalenti2185 Horikoshi played us hard
Who’s here after finding out hagakure is the traitor ? 😦
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me🙁 im shocked
I check joy boy theories 4 years ago and this one so im totally convince
She's not tho. There's someone else
@@leatitiacasta1119 she's not
There's a couple of notes that further solidify that Toru is suspicious.
1. I find it unlikely that she was with Todoroki at USJ. The first thing he did was freeze everything, which would have included her if she was there.
2. Everywhere I look, her quirk is always listed as invisibility. So how in the hell can she lightbend? Sure quirks evolve, but are you gonna tell me she just woke up and realized, "oh, I can bend light"? Also, remember who the boss of the League is, and what he can do. How can we be sure she has only 1 quirk, especially since she showed off a power somewhat unrelated to invisibility.
3. While I'm sure those robots in the entrance exam had off switches, recall how those things were being destroyed left and right. Not enough time to locate a tiny switch. So either she knew where the switches were, or she destroyed them some other way.
1. Yeah, that was originally in my video, but I didn't feel like talking about it...even though it was quite noteworthy to point out.
2. We all originally thought she only had the power to go invisible until she showcased the power to refract light in the provisional exam arc. It makes sense since the class were assigned with creating their own special move and she probably unlocked that potential around that time.
3. I mean idk, I just got the info from Hiro's Q&A
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Other points are:
1: There was no reason for hagakure to have casually heard where exactly ojiro was during the usj incident, literally right after the villains left. Also, it IS kinda odd that the show literally emphasized the fact that todoroki did not see her, and probably would’ve frozen her. Honestly, looking back at the hero team vs villain team training that was shown before (in this case todoroki and shoji vs ojiro and hagakure), todoroki easily froze her, and there is almost no chance the same thing wouldn’t have happened in the landslide zone.
2: That whole “light refracture” thing can easily be classified as an emitter quirk, when her quirk is clearly mutation. Now, we have seen other mutation quirk heroes do emitter type stuff (like gang orcas sound waves), but this isn’t something that would go hand in hand with invisibility, like gang orcas sound waves would with his orca quirk. Generally the whole quirk just doesn’t make sense. Why would she have any interaction with light, SHES INVISIBLE, her quirk in fact makes it so that move makes even less sense.
3: She was especially concerned when Aizawa said the person who got last in the quirk apprehension test would be expelled, like unusually concerned. Being expelled would be especially problematic if she was the U.A. traitor.
4: This doesn’t prove anything, since this applied to more people than not; but i will point out; when they were going to agencies in season two, we did not know where hagakure was
@@purplegrass5598 1. Yeah, that was originally in the script but for some reason I removed it...I regret it now
2. I want to say that her invisibility is a passive ability that can't be turned off and her quirk may have really been the ability to manipulate light but I don't remember anything
3. Good catch but to be fair it's expulsion for failing a test
4. This part was actually in my draft but too little info on everyone's respective internships
@@purplegrass5598 my theory is that some kind of light manipulation is her true quirk. She's simply refracting light to appear invisible, which is to hide her true identity and disguise as the "invisibility" girl. Her light powers is proof her invisibility may not actually be a mutant or permanent quirk as she suggests...
Makes sense considering Mirio can't see when he uses his quirk since light passes through his retinas. So Toru shouldn't be able to see if she was truly invisible
PJ B Yeah, i feel like toru has the potential to have an emitter, transform, or mutant quirk. Transform is a bit less likely, since the light refracture move wouldn’t rlly make sense, but it’s totally possible for her to have an emitter class quirk that allows her to interact with light in some way. She may even be able to stop being a invisible if her quirk is emitter.
I see a few theories on who the traitor is, but Hagakure makes the most sense.
Agreed
I think it’s either Hagakure or Ochaco.
@@luvinqqq903 ochako?! You must be kidding me
@@luvinqqq903 its either kaminari or hagakure
@@LokiAndGames it’s my opinion.
She's lying about her quirk: invisibility. We have enough canon material to say she's lying through her teeth. Being passively invisible, with no way to turn it off, would be an inherited mutant appearance if it's not killing her. Think Tokoyami's bird head. He has a bird head but no bird related quirk powers. This is very common. However, like Tsuyu, if you have a real Mutant Quirk and not an inherited appearance you can control your quirk to some extent and it's related to whatever you mutation is. You get a whole slew of auxiliary powers based on your mutated apperance, unlike Tokoyami. But Tsuyu has the same weaknesses as a frog, unlike Tokoyami. Mutant quirks are passive skills that do not need to be turned on or off, you just have it. However, Emitter Quirk's like Tokoyami allow for outright manipulation of things like Darkness.
If light passes through you all the time, this means you're not interacting with electromagnetic radiation, at least the kind we can see. This is actually a huge problem, think Mirio, but being unable to to metabolize Vitamin D from sunlight, nor being able to be warmed up by radiated heat. This would be lethal if you had it for so long. Yet, we see that she can refract light however she pleases. If her quirk was Mutant: Invisibility, she'd be stuck with this weakness passively forever. But she's not.
This means that light isn't the only electromagnetic energy she can refract through her body, but whenever she's awake she likely also has to consciously redirect UV and other necessary energy into her body. This means she can also be a signal jammer, by just refracting electromagnetic radiation through her body to create a counterpulse for radio signals. Her invisibility is a passive inherited appearance, her real quirk is electromagnetic manipulation so this invisibility doesn't outright kill her over time. She's an Emitter, not Mutant.
Furthermore, she claimed to have seen Shoto and Ojiro during USJ, already suspicious on its own because they're on opposite sides of eachother. But if you're going to jam a signal, being in the very center of the building is optimal. And since they're on opposite sides if she's in the center she likely could have walked to either location to gather info and still retain her signal jamming attempts intact.
Great analysis! That's very fascinating, you should definitely share your comment on the toru traitor vids if you haven't already.
Oh god bill nye is here
I think you might be right.
And if you think about it, Kaminari said something about the signal being jammed when he tried to use his quirk, when he was with Momo and Jiro.
I think Hagekure is the smart choice for the traitor and Kaminari is the twist choice. Hagakure is the smart choice because we don't really know much about her and she is often forgotten about in scenes unless you stop to think about here she was. Having her be the traitor would be smart for the plot and the fans because there wouldn't be too much backlash. Kaminari is still plausible, but it would be a major twist to the fans and the inner social dynamic of 1A. He is a popular character, part of the Bakusquad and a ship may have just sailed if you read the manga. The characters and fans would be crushed if he was the traitor and it would effect the rest of the story from here on out. I think either would make a good traitor tbh. It just depends on what kind of fallout Horikoshi is willing to go for.
Hmm....after the most recent development with him in the manga I no longer consider him a suspect, but the traitor hasn't been revealed yet (if there is one) so I guess we can't completely count him out. If Toru turns out to be the traitor, we definitely need to see more of who she is before the reveal
@@Mrcoffeestuff I wonder If this traitor suspect is still a thing after the current event on manga.
i dont think its kaminari just because of the paranormal liberation raid
I also heard that Kaminari was originally supposed to be a villain with black hair and a yellow lightning bolt so there’s that... also having him as a villain would be pretty cool and funny and it would allow some good moments where he gives his all and loses to the heroes because of his stupidity! 🤣🤣
this didn't age well
I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into it, but since you mention her ranking... she is ranking 16, her seat number is 16 and her birthday is 16 of june. I was trying to find some meaning to that number. In tarot 16 is "the tower" means missery, distress, indigence, adversity, calamity, disgrace, deception, ruin. Also, her star sign is Gemini, which symbol is twins. So now I'm wondering if they were trying to convey her double personality, does she actually have a twin? Or is just a coincidence.
Great observation! This definitely had to be intentional, but the next question would be: Will it carry any significance for her character or foreshadow any upcoming events in relation to Toru?
If it does, I'm obligated to sub to you. This is a L from Death Note kind of observation.
When I liked this comment the likes were 16. Concidence, I think NOT
I feel like it’s more with 6 as well, she gets a lot of six numbers 18, 42 16 June
And she hasn’t gotten a card for her quirk or an explanation from Horikoshi
Eight in kanji, meaning doubled or two sided and 6 that can describe all emotions and especially hate and anger or revenge
I feel like if anyone in class 1-A is the traitor it would be her, and I don’t understand the Kaminari theory, cause he’s super loyal, not the brightest person, and has a most likely canon crush on Jiro. I’d be devastated if anyone of them is the traitor since I have 6 ships. Toru x Ojiro, Uraraka x Midoriya, Momo x Todoroki, Mina x Kirishima, Tsuyu x Tokoyami, and my all time favorite MHA ship which is Jiro x Kaminari
There were actually a couple of strong hints that made Kaminari look like a potential traitor. Though due to recent events, he seems out of the clear.
I have a lot to say about Kaminari but here is a short version;
He can jam and send signals with his quirk and many times he could have stopped signals (USJ) and sent (Summer Camp)
I’m back from reading a recent chapter… no confirmation, but your theory is looking like it’s coming to fruition
It'll be funny if she's a red herring (っ＾▿＾)💨
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Well, what do you know! A red herring
A while ago (when the matter was new) I remember a topic in which people said that in the Japanese fandom they were very suspicious of Toru and the reason was curious, something about being invisible that you couldn't see his face and that was ominous, or not having a shadow was a way of saying that it hid its darkness and other things like that.
What a fascinating theory
No shadow? Lol I have to reread bnha yet again.
I made a theory that Hagekure is descended from the glowing baby in Qinq Qing China at the start of the manga. Their quirks both have to deal with light, and possibly the manipulation of how we view light. Also if Horikoshi is leaving us a hint there was a specific volume/chapter that had the characters in martial art outfits and Hagekure wore a traditional chinese outfit(I think it's called a qipao or something)
Damn, 900 iq theory, I'll give you my first heart if this happens to be true
But that baby was the first person with a quirk and we learn from Izukus mom that I think she is a 3rd-4th generation quirk user which would make deku and his class a 4th-5th quirk user???
Who's here after the reveal?
Me! It'll be funny if she's a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
and you were right...
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Im curious if she is the traitor, that they reveal she can actually turn off her invisibility. But never did to keep her true identity hidden.
Uncloaking herself would be a cool reveal if she's the traitor
i’ve always thought that hagakure always acted the way she did to stand out. she knows that people forget about her, so she tries to stand out with her personality. idk if that holds any merit though, just my own personal theory :)
Most def! Her quirk most likely shaped her bubbly, perky personality. When you're permanently invisible, but you don't want to be forgotten you have to make yourself stand out
This literally aged well u were correct dude 100%
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No he wasn't read chapter 336 it being invisible girl is wrong.
@@DJsuperstar108 yea Aoyama is the traitor 👀
This aged better than fine wine
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ITS CONFIRMED
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Well this aged well
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You honestly are so underrated.
Thx very much :D
ikr he is so better than the people that hurts my ears and i nearly undrestand
This theory aged like a fine wine.
edit:this theory aged like a milk.
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Congratulations, you are a prophet.
It'll be funny if she's a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
She wore a sleeveless shirt, so she could cover her nose and mouth to inhale the toxic gas and no one would notice, no one would notice that she was pretending to be passed out because her eyes cannot be seen, she could have inhaled the gas enough not to become unconscious , so as not to affect her health at all and but a good much for the doctors detecting the presence of gas in her, but since Momo put a gas mask on them, it would explain why she did not inhale more, and her apparent weakness in combat explains why it was possible having "passed out" with so little gas in her system. Shoji has a tragic past that we already know and that would fit into being a villain, and Denki also has those details from the mangaka's drawings, but Hagakure has both details, the mask of his first design looks like that of a psychopath or villan, and also like You say She wants recognition but nobody recognizes her, being invisible is bad for her,nobody notices She, not we as spectators, we always tend to forget about She, not only because it is little mentioned in history but because being invisible, we sometimes forget that it is there, Either because of foolishness on our (my) part, or because it's hard for our brains to grasp something that we can't easily see, but Hagakure might feel bad about it, sad not to be noticed.
So that would justify why she left the villain side, but I would still like, due to her relationship with the girls, that they could really change her side to the side of the heroes, it would be an excellent way to give her and the characters some prominence. that less appear in history, like Ojiro, Shoji, Sato, Rikido and Koda. Especially Ojiro for his ship with her, and Shoji because they have been partners, they talk to each other and he trained to find her. Sato simply because it was mentioned by her in an official mangaka one shot, and with that at least she would give something to these characters, in addition to the fact that Toga is the only woman in the league of villains, she is also overcome whenever Tsuyu and Ochako fight together with her. Tsuyu also learned to become invisible, she did not want to be mean to Toru but she could take it the wrong way because as almost nobody pays attention to her, now her novelty of being the invisible girl is lost by Tsuyu, that tells me that Horikoshi is possibly preparing the terrain for her to team up with Toga in a 2 vs 2 battle between them against Ochako and Tsuyu.
Denki and Shoji have also sacrificed much more than Hagakure for their peers, Shoji sacrificed an arm, Denki hurt his finger for Kyoka while practicing for the culture festival, Denki did things for Kyoka, and has done things for others, Shoji too saving Mahoro and Katsuma and carrying Midoriya so he wouldn't get hurt or tired anymore. It is clear that it is made for us to doubt them too, but then I remembered, what has Hagakure done for the others? She simply fainted, she could have covered her nose and mouth without being seen, but she has not done something for anyone, not even in the movies, she was always in very safe places, she has not needed to make any sacrifices, worse she has not made an effort to do what. She was a villain against Todoroki in the bomb test with Ojiro, Todoroki froze her and burned her feet, then she was with Todoroki she saw that Todoroki was cruel to the villains, threatened them with death to get information from them, which goes from According to some ideas from the league of villains, she has been being the other happy girl, just like Denki is the other Kirishima, Hagakure is the other Mina, they have that level in the interactions of the room, so ... it is clear that The best thing for the plot and the themes of the ships is that she is the traitor, since you can even get a story from that for the ships.it would be good for her because it would give an interesting little arc to herself and the less reelected characters in the class, such as Ojiro, Shoji, Rikido, and Koda.
Thx for the in-depth comment! You basically could turn your comment into a script for a Toru Traitor Theory video. Take my heart and sorry for the short response but I would like to say that detailed comments like yours keeps us going as content creators (well at least for me).
@@Mrcoffeestuff I don't like making these videos so much, so I prefer to complement the information in a comment. I wish I had a better answer but I guess it's going to have to be thanks
In fact I have another theory, which is about a Drama CD where Hagakure invites Uraraka to the Enichi festival, this is TodoMomo fanservice, where by coincidence Yaoyorozu and Todoroki have a kind of date, rather they spend a pleasant time together and accompany each other. In that drama CD, Hagakure sees Todoroki with a girl, although he cannot see who is but later at school she asks Todoroki with Uraraka about who is that girl he was with at the festival. We are no longer told but it is made clear that Todoroki told them was Yaoyorozu, and from there Hagakure has an idea that they like each other and they had a date. At the camp Touya/dabi said that the Nomu only obeyed his orders, and possibly had an order to attack Rag Doll but he could also have had a secondary target due to attacking Momo with more force than Awase. Now that we clearly know the relationship between Touya and Shoto, and the former's intentions to harm his little brother, that make me think that Hagakure told the league that Todoroki had a crush and that's why Touya sent Nomu to hurt and chase Momo. The Nomu was specifically chasing her, Awase was not hurt as much as Momo and Rag Doll. Also, Rag Doll was kidnapped and the nomu did not carry her in his arms, so I think that Kurogiri take her away once she was out of combat. And the Nomu could have helped Touya against the boys who attacked Mr Compress if he had already been with Touya after completing his mission to capture Rag Doll. According to my theory, The nomu is not been there because Touya wanted to morally hurt Shoto by hurting the girl he likes. And that theory is fed because at the festival Enichi Hagakure went with Uraraka, and ate with her, are not told if they talked or what topics they talked about, but they could have done so, so that Hagakure noticed that Uraraka is interested in Deku. Uraraka shows jealousy and clear indications of having a crush on Deku since the sports festival so it is not surprising that something she said in the conversation with Hagakure at the enichi festival made Hagakure realize that crush, because Mina Ashido noticed immediately this when Ochako says lately that his heart was beating faster or something like that. And Ochako hadn't realized that this could be love until Mina suggested it, so Hagakure could have kept quiet and pretended not to realize it, but yes she did. In this way she could have commented something with Aoyama, insinuating that Ochako likes Deku but that perhaps he does not dare to ask her and Aoyama could say "how shy you are my sweet, I can ask her". And she could tell him this when he was alone modeling his cape before the exam against thirteen. In this way, when the league asked her to orchestrate a meeting between Shigaraki and Deku, she could think that embarrassing Ochako for her feelings with Deku could make her move away from him a little enough to clarify her feelings, bear the shame, don't exprese her love for Deku. and a villain visit. At that time Deku could indeed be alone and Shigaraki would have what he wanted, which was to ask him some questions. It is not uncommon for Aoyama to say that "is because you like him?" for his own because he noticed it himself but it would also be possible that Hagakure suggested it to him just to prepare the ground and that Midoriya was alone in the place. Only a girl would know intimate facts such as crushes and dates that can indeed be used to hurt heroes. Gigantomachia is a nomu and he does not move without an order, so the other nomus could be similar, and that nomu from the camp followed Momo because it was between his orders.
@@MisticusJIL Holy f*ck! You should share your theory on reddit and in the comment sections of other Toru Traitor Theory vids if you haven't already
@@Mrcoffeestuff XD. I think Hagakure being the traitor could worry many people because her ship but I don't think it will be affected Hagakure has no competition. Personally I like Hagakure more with Shoji although the most popular ship is with Ojiro, but it is because I feel that they understand each other, but Shoji anyway could say that he could fall into the same thing of be a villain because people did not accept him easily but he managed to be a hero, but he understands what she feels like for people to ignore him for his quirk ... but she might have a chance to redeem herself, because there with them she has friends and she will have the attention she wanted, to Bakugo for example, he always treats them wrong and insults them but they still include him and are his friends for they. It is true that the teachers were injured quite a bit and also several students ... but they could save Hagakure because no one has died yet because that she has done and why he appreciate her because she is his nakama he want to save her from that world of villains, that instead of a person becoming bad, a villain becoming good, it would be a triumph for the heroes. And if Ojiro loves her or feels something special for her, he will take that as a pretext to try to save her despite his honor, and if she does not want to be good then arrest her, but if they can convince her to be good and surrender voluntarily to the police ... what better. But if it was good, it could come out shortly, especially if they forgive the charges. With Denki it would be a problem, and his ship with Kyoka would be ruined a lot, because even if Kyoka forgives him, he will remain like another bad boy who becomes good ... and well ... there is a ship between Bakugo and Kyoka so. .. it would be the same, it would not matter if she stayed with Denki or Bakugo .... and I doubt that the fans of Kamijirou would like the idea. That is why Hagakure is the one that best fits.
@@MisticusJIL Darn you. Now I want to make "best ship" videos XD.
I Like anything with Tooru and coming to this video from the Church of Tooru subreddit helped me find a hidden gem of a channel. Hope you continue to grow , this is great.
Thx, that means a lot
This aged so well
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When this is confirmed a year later:
Ikr
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I think it’s Hagakure, too How did she even get into U.A? It shows she can’t even do a pull up, let alone fight some robots. ( there must’ve been smoke everywhere due to them falling so there’s really no chance of her seeing it)Her quirk is literally invisibility, with no actual strength. (Just a theory as said, bc Horikoshi said he forgot about it.. and I heard people say that Horikoshi said it was a rumor :pp)
In the author Q&A section it was mentioned that the robots had off switches
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Yeah I saw but how could she see it?
This aged well
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It's amazing when you realize that you were right all along!!
It'll be funny if she turns out to be a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
Well looks like you're right according to the Leaks
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted that she was going to be a traitor, the only difference is that I made a video about it
and a year later this has come true 😭
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Yes she is... Yes I am a time traveller
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POV: *you see this video after the last chapiter*
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bruh... we was tricked
@@justebob It's better this way, the new direction holds more weight
@@Mrcoffeestuff actually yep you right
Oh no.... Just imagine how horrifying it would be to see Toru irl 😨😰😅😂. I mean just seeing some clothes walking around.... irl..
Mineta: "Hagakure's floating underwear!"
Here From the Future: you were right.
Here From the Further Future: (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ
WOW she is really sus now
Too bad no one in the story knows it
POV: you're here after the leaks
Damn right
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Well this aged pretty well
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Good job your officially a ultimate detective 🤷😗✨
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(Spoilers)
And during the lastest chapter, her presence wasn’t shown anywhere, and she can blind aizawa to give shigaraki the upper hand!
Damn, that would be crazy if that happens
I noticed that too, she's not with the main character group or the side character group so she could be anywhere giving the liberation army some intel
If she is the traitor, she might be with the Leauge and Machia. She could have jumped onto him before he transformed abd destroyed the heroes and could be riding on him somewhere abd waiting for her chance to strike.
That is,if she is the traitor.
@@zemox2534 I just checked the chapter, majestic saved her on page 4. But she still could've done some stuff before Gigantomachia showed up
Aged like fine wine
It'll be funny if she turns out to be a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
Damn u were right my man! You need to make a follow up vid!
(>‿◠)✌ I don't have much to say tbh other than "cool"
Wow you really knocked this out because come to find out she is the traitor
It was kinda obvious tho
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted Toru, the only difference is that I made a video about it
Not false, but it'll be funny if she's a red herring
1 YEAR LATER THIS IS CORRECT
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I came back to you that you was right
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted that she was going to be a traitor, the only difference is that I made a video about it
I want it to be this big reveal where she splashes paint on herself so every can see her for what she truly is...a traitor
That would be dope Ｏ(≧▽≦)Ｏ
HIIIII Your theory is true and now thriller i've never notice it at the very beginning until i found out on twitter that she's really a traitor ,nice one
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted that she was going to be a traitor, the difference is that I made a video about it
Too late to say this haha but to clear the "Hagakure was knocked down by a villain during the training camp incident"... I don't think the LOV knew anything about a UA traitor called Hagakure Toru. She is probably one of AOF's close friends and AFO didn't reveal all his secrets to Shigaraki so Shigaraki couldn't know either, if Shigaraki didn't know then the rest of the league didn't either.
Also, I don't think it's too obvious of Horikoshi to make Hagakure the traitor because everyone was so damn focused on getting the most unpredictable plot twist that they thought "The traitor is not Hagakure she's too obvious" lol
Oh yeah that possibly could be the case I don't think Shigaraki and his gang knew the existence of a planted spy in UA, but I think the has attack gave a prime opportunity for Toru to remove suspicion herself
I feel like she’s the best choice for the traitor, I’d just feel so bad for Ojiro- the only person that pays attention to him was a faking villain all along✋😪
ಡ ﹏ ಡ Not like this
im crying now😭
@@leatitiacasta1119 as jeez I was right 😭
feel bad for Ashido too, they seemed like close friends
What if she can actually turn visible but she doesn't because wants to trick people that she is invisible.
Im from the day chapter 335 was leaked and you were right. Congrats!!
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Bro, you are an awesome youtuber. People should notice you more!
I appreciate that! Maybe one day
LOL your quirk is even more powerful than sir nighteye's quirk
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You were right
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted that she was going to be a traitor, the only difference is that I made a video about it
Plot twist: Toru isn't a traitor because she didn't shown on 6:34. She replaces the cameraman. Maybe because the cameraman has a problem or something. And maybe that's also why she's absent during the class election.
Hidden 4th Wall Break Power?
The fact that she is nowhere to be seen when there are major events related to the villains.
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Next chapter titled “One Among Us” finally revealed
There's A Traitor Among Us!
Who's the traitor?🤔😞
@@shikhamonidas8952 The imposter
@@Mrcoffeestuff I mean I am not talking bout "AMONG US" who's the UA traitor?😂
@@shikhamonidas8952 😜
This aged like fine wine 🍷
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1 year later you were RIGHT it was hagagure
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Well guess what, guys. You were right.
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Who's here after the traitor reveal😳
Me ✍(◔◡◔)
Welp she is it’s been confirmed
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you actually got it right......
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U were right from the start. 👍
It'll be funny if she turns out to be a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
You’re right! She’s the traitor in the new chapter of MHA?!
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted Toru, the only difference is that I made a video about it
Atleast she'll have more screentime now.. good job lad
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You got it W
Those who said denki 🤡
I mean denki was kinda sus until the recent arcs. Almost got the wrong guy ʕʘ‿ʘʔ.
this aged like a fine wine
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Here because the reveal.
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YO HOLLUP. ITS 4:39AM AM AS IM TYPING THESE EXACT WORDS AND I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS THEORY AND HAD A THOUGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY SCENES WITH TOGA AND HAGAKURE IN THEM? TOGETHER? WHAT IF HAGAKURE IS TOGA? bit of a stretch but like I can’t think rn but I did have that interesting thought
Not sure if they were ever together in the same scene but I'm pretty certain they're not the same person because they were engaging in different activities within the same time frame (provisional license exam) + the light refraction powers
This hits different
For real!
It'll be funny if she turns out to be a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
I come from the future and you were all damn right.
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Well damn, this kinda aged well-
It'll be funny if she's a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
@@Mrcoffeestuff Turns out she is a red herring, I’m not particularly disappointed but I feel she would be really hard to defeat in battle over time if she was the traitor.
@@bitterlysour7765 It's better this way, the new direction holds more weight
Dude. After watching ONE manga video that confirms she is the traitor, then I get theory videos made a year or so ago.
It'll be funny if she's a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
@@Mrcoffeestuff red herring?
@@ultrachadstinctgoku7579 Like to mislead the audience from the real suspect.
@@Mrcoffeestuff I've never heard that term before
@@ultrachadstinctgoku7579 No prob, it's commonly used in mysteries
6:48 FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE CAUGHT THAT
Actually, that discovery has already been posted on tumblr, youtube and reddit so credit to those astute detectives.
WHERE EVERYWHERE IVE LOOKED I COULDN'T FIND IT
@@Kono_Topi_Da Tbh, it's been years so I don't remember the exact posts but if you watch the most popular Toru Traitor Theory vids then you'll probably find one of them
1 year later you’re right
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@@Mrcoffeestuff should I delete my comment?
I’d hate to spoil
@@Yorm_ I appreciate your kindness but you don't have to; everyone else already said the same thing. Check the newest comments and you'll be able to see lol
POV: you're here after the reveal
Pov: you’re here looking for people talking about people who are talking about the reveal
@@dreyeezy8671 Me :)
except they're the ones that's coming to me
Imagine if she turns out to be a red herring ✍(◔◡◔)
@@Mrcoffeestuff Lowkey. She might be confronting the traitor. Who knows. Cant wait
@@dreyeezy8671 lol That would actually be so dope and everyone that came to say I was "right" is coming back to say "never mind"
It makes me wonder if Horikoshi is doing this on purpose for us pick up the cookie crumbs, what happens if the traitor is someone else and then Hagakure turns up to be misunderstood. Also within her name as well may be a severe parallel to her quirk. I’m just not sure with this all what happens if the traitor is someone else and Hagakure takes the blame or we are finally revealed about her when it comes to the traitor or after the arc in the manga.
I heard he actually forgot about the traitor storyline like 4 times in the my hero aca subreddit, but they never stated their sources so not sure how accurate or even true that is. We should find out soon if there is one
Mrcoffeestuff Oh he mentioned that was a joke him forgetting the whole traitor thing, probably to lower people’s guards and then reveals it. When it comes to the whole thing it may be Hagakure but I feel like it wouldn’t be shocking. If Hagakure really is the traitor I think somewhat she should’ve made herself more important via giving some tragic backstory and or why she wants to become a hero, it just feels so stale. It makes me wonder if they’re other questionable characters.
@@data1509 Hopefully she gets some more characterization regardless if she turns to be the traitor or not.
@@Mrcoffeestuff yesss, a characterization
Well.... that aged well.
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You was right……
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted that she was going to be a traitor, the difference is that I made a video about it
And Finally Your Right dude !!! Your theory or everybody theory Is Finally Confirmed.
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This did not age well- but you were right so good job lol
uhh thanks but what do you mean by "did not age well"?
@@Mrcoffeestuff oh I was just joking about that park lol. sorry I didn’t make that clear:)
Oh I guess I ruined the joke then (╥︣﹏᷅╥)
@@Mrcoffeestuff no no you’re good I’m just dumb asf lol
Everyone uses the shopping trip, that could be ANYONE because the whole class knew about it, just because she suggested it doesn't mean she arranged Shigaraki's meeting
Sure, but it's just interesting to point out
Well this man is correct Nice prediction man
And it was a year ago
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And a year later, the man was correct
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Hey, i come from the future and your theory is totally true, Hagakure is the traitor :)
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imagine how confused hagakare's parents were when she was born
I mean I believe the parents are invisible as well
No she wasn’t invisible when she was born she became invisible when she was about four
@@SofiaSophiaSophie shit i forgot
I came back here because of the news I saw on Facebook about horu 😰😰
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you were right all along
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted that she was going to be a traitor, the only difference is that I made a video about it
My bro, foresight
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ I mean everyone predicted Toru, the only difference is that I made a video about it
1 year later and you were absolutely right
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Spoiler:
Use this as „Wow, you were right“ button
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OMG!! Who's here after reading chapter's 279 spoilers? 😱😱🔥🔥🔥
*Chapter 335 spoilers*
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@@Mrcoffeestuff 🤔🤔🤔
The way you were right
I mean everyone made a Toru traitor video haha
came here after seeing the latest chapter
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I like how you use the absentees of certain events to try to prove she is the traitor you have my respect
thank you (^‿^v)
I'm not trying to hurt y'alls feelings, but let's just keep it a buck for a second. Toru Hagakure is one of the most useless, cookie cutter characters not only in MHA but in anime. She was so useless to the point to where she became a meme character. And to make matters worse is not only the fact that Horikoshi waited 300+ chapters to reveal who the U.A. traitor was but he also chose the most OBVIOUS choice of them all. Like I thought it be Aoyama for a second. Nezu was a decent choice since that could be debatable, invisible chick is way too obvious. Btw this is coming from a big MHA fan
To be fair the Dabi theory was obvious but the execution was done very well so everything really depends on how Hori handles her reveal, motivation and characterization. The execution matters a lot more than the concept/idea (IMO).
@@Mrcoffeestuff yeah, Dabi theory was handled well
I always thought it was kaminari but haaahh at least hagakure make sense in the most nonsensical way.
I don’t think it being obvious is a bad thing, really just depends on how horokoshi executes it like dabi
Imagine their was another traitor😭
i like seeing the comments comiing from "this aged well" to "this did not age well" in a matter of a week simply because of the author trolling us
Yeah, a lot of people are way too quick to say it's confirmed when it was really just heavily implied. They shouldn't gamble at all. But it's better this way, the new direction holds more weight
good job!
Thank you! Cheers!