MONAT ZOOM CALL | Top income earners admit to selling a dream, it's all about recruitment
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Only sleeping three hours a night? What happened to fitting this business into pockets of your day and time freedom?
But if one wants biiig money they need big pockets apparently 🤔
i guess sleep one hour that way you have two hours of free time
/S
but seriously don’t do this
Your upline will sleep for you lol
The other contradictory thing is they say just follow what people with bigger checks do, listen to your upline and do exactly what they say, blah blah blah, but even if you do that they'll still put the blame on you if you aren't growing.
Their self contradictions are just insane.
"You get time freedom! But if you have any free time, you're not working hard enough."
"Get rid of your 9-5! With us, you don't have a boss! But your upline is going to tell you what to do."
"You can think your way to success! ANYONE can do this! But this is hard work and a grind, and NOT for everyone."
"You can work from your phone! But you need to lock your phone in a drawer."
"You can spend more time with your family! But you need to do 90 day sprints and shut out the rest of the world."
Dude. YES! It's unbelievable that they even believe themselves. Like, literally, they have to hear all the contradictions coming out of their mouths. 😳
I can attest to this first hand, every single contradiction you listed- is beyond true
Being in an MLM feels like having a micromanaging boss but not getting paid for it.
“Take your last check and multiply it by 100” 0 x 100 still 0 girl 🤣
I ALWAYS think that whenever they say stuff like that! 😂
I’ve worked a variety of jobs and experienced being a unionized employee, a non-unionized employee, a 1099 contractor, at a small business, at a medium business, government, paid internship, part time, full time, on site, remote, in the US, and in Canada. I’ve never been told not to have free time, not to watch netflix outside of work, not to get 8 hours of sleep, etc. The suggestion that you spend every waking hour working and cut your sleep to 3 hours a day is unbelievable. Totally unhealthy for anyone.
"it's business building season for Mommy right now" literally just broke my heart, dude. Imagine being that child when they grow up and having to process that mom set you aside so that she could scam people.
Paired with that backhand comment at the end about working just 1 hour a day being away from your kids vs being away from them all day every day if you work a 9-5 is not only totally contradictory but total BS manipulation! They already admitted you have to live off 3 hours of sleep and never have down time if you want to succeed and how its "business building season for mommy" If it was just an hour a day, it wouldnt need all that "cracking the whip" conversation at the begining.
ForHisGlory734 seriously!! They contradict themselves constantly.
Both of my parents used to work all the time, and they still do (not MLM) and as a kid I never understood and I still don't. And it still breaks me.
The worst part about it is “business building season” never ends. These women are purposefully throwing away their children’s childhoods
Cats in the cradle
these calls feel like an hour of bullying
56:00 I would unequivocally, without a doubt, rather do manual labor than join Monat. Not even just because it's a pyramid scheme; the work they do just sounds genuinely awful. Sitting in hours long Zoom meetings, sending hundreds of messages to near-strangers, and trying to sell things to people sounds like my personal hell.
Same. Literal hell. No freakin thanks lol
And where’s the sense of accomplishment? What do you actually achieve? It doesn’t feel like “real” work, just a distraction while they rob you. You’re so busy but have nothing to show for it but arbitrary ranks that mean nothing outside the business.
I agree!!!🖤🤍 If it was a legit job, it would be hell. And imagine your coworkers and bosses?! Probably the most toxic work environment on top of the shit work!😹😹😹
Absolutely!!
i do software development, and it’s a bit mentally exhausting. but at least i get to relax after my hours are in. and not brainwashed into ignoring feelings and red flags.
"STOP VALIDATING YOUR OWN FEELINGS" , wow are we in an abusive relationship?
The concept of "training" is so loose on MLMs... it was 40min of "work harder" said in different ways
LOL !! She is soooooo motivated she is going to master brain washing herself !!!
As a counselor, it makes me absolutely cringe that she said the feeling is a lie. It completely invalidates the person's experience and feelings. We usually tell our clients to sit with the feeling and embrace and let them see how it's impacting them. But never ever that it's a lie, and the fact that she said that infuriates me beyond belief.
Indeed. Invalidating people's feelings is absolute poison and is the core of gaslighting.
To expand on that - feelings happen. It's involuntary. They're real. It's like your heart beating. It happens, no use denying that.
How you react to those feelings, now that's where it gets interesting and where we can do a lot of work.
Ugh I cringed so hard when she told the story about not being able to play with her son because she has to do her 90 day plan for her mlm. That poor kid does not understand why his mom is choosing to spend more time on a pyramid scheme then on him. I’m not rich but I have plenty of quality time with my kids and they’ll never remember me prioritizing something over them.
You’re richer than any of them and so are your kids. As someone who lost my mom at 33, time is so so precious. You’re giving them such a gift. Trust me.
Reality is that there are times your kids have to wait b/c you need to work to clothe, shelter and feed them. When they get older they will appreciate your work ethic. However, the key is being 100% present on a consistent basis. My dad could not go to every sports event but he made it a few times per month and was completely in the moment. Vacations completely on the moment. I still remember his swimming lessons. This lifestyle seems to make you physically there but not “present” which feels like consistent rejection.
If my boss told me I had to be on a zoom call at 8pm I would tell him no. I'm in a union and that's not within my working hours. MLMs are horrible!
Exactly. It’s highly inappropriate
I’m glad you have the blessing of workers unions. I wish we had more unions here in SC 😢
I'm European. I'm staggered at the ease with which MLM's can flourish in the US. We have a law which gives everybody the right to cancel a contract/scam within 7 days of signing. It further gives protection from MLM/Conartist schemes.
Even if I sign up to a property purchase, I'm protected. You are doing a wonderful job in protecting people from scammers
We need that SO bad here! Too many predators out there trying to make a quick dollar! 😳😳😳
Some Canadian provinces also have this. It’s a “cooling off period”.
In China, MLMs are totally illegal, as they should be. (I don't love the Chinese government in general, but that's one thing they've got right.) I think the US puts such an emphasis on economic freedom (read: lack of regulations) that it can leave the door wide open for scams.
@@larissabrglum3856 We had our chance to basically bury the MLM industry before it had a chance to take off here in the US. It was the Amway case of 1979. It truly was a landmark case, and the ruling has done so much economic damage in its wake. Billions and Billions of dollars. That's not even talking about people who lost their homes to this, their cars, couples who got divorced, people who spent their retirement savings on it, people who dropped out of college to pursue this, ruined credit scores,.....etc.
If you're not familiar with the case, Amway was sued for running a pyramid scheme and the case went to a federal court in the late 1970's. If Amway had lost, it's game over and their company is done. But even though Amway is obviously a pyramid scheme to anyone with a functioning brain, the court ruled in their favor because, it's America so of course they did. (I'm sure Dick DeVos had something to do with it) They said since Amway sells products they technically don't meet the definition of an illegal pyramid scheme. And with that, they rolled out the red carpet for all the MLM's that would follow. Just pathetic.
I constantly am calling for our economic and social structure in this country to more closely resemble Europe's. It would be such a boon to our population in many ways, and this is just one of them. Our relentless pursuit of profits over people is fertile ground for scams and con artists.
Read 32 books a year to make seven figures..... Librarians are secretly ballers. 🙄
Considering how much I read and how diverse my reading material is I should be swimming in money.
@@sisuguillam5109 maybe you didn’t read Girl Wash Your Hair or whatever that dumb book everyone reads is called lol. Rachel Hollis. My upline was hyping that one big time
@@dianasimplifies Rachel Hollis is 😑🙄. But librarians are 🥰.
I read 109 books last year. Where's my millions?
“I wasn’t scared to make mistakes”. Yes, but mistakes can drastically effect another person’s health or hair, so it IS a big deal to mess up. I hate it here
That woman whose family knows that when the door closes at 8 pm, leave mommy alone. I'm picturing the dad saying ok Jimmie and Susie, don't bother mommy because she's trying to re-rank or she'll lose her title and income (repeats every month). Also, I never see them ever end that whole 90 day run cycle. It just repeats and repeats and repeats. Sounds like making about as much progress as a hamster on a hamster wheel makes.
Join this 'business opportunity' so that you will have more time for your family. As long as that means that the time is half an hour squeezed in somewhere. Imagine being a kid knowing that Monat is more important than you.
@@josephgreene3080 spot on!
Lol this really just reminded me of the way my hamster runs on his wheel. he'll go go for a few minutes then stop look around see that he didn't get anywhere and run run run some more and then stop peek his little head out look around like nope still in the same place. Let's keep trying to get somewhere 🤣
@@SassyShelly 😆
nailed it. So so gross.
“I’m not a beat around the bush type of person”
Girl the whole scheme is a beat around the bush type of opportunity 😂
😂.
I'm so proud of how far you've come with your channel, you're almost at 40k with by far one of the best anti MLM content out there. congratulations!
She's growing so fast! 😍
So proud of you Hannah! Sorry about the delayed comments. I'm newer to your channel, and found you about a week ago. I have
been binge watching you since. You have quickly become my favorite content creator. Please keep doing what you're doing!! Keep the videos coming!
@@melissab1038 I found Hannah about the same time you did, and same - bingeing all the things! She is so good 😊
Omg I just got my first “hey girl” message since being anti mlm, I let her down easy saying I didn’t want to join an mlm. She said what’s an mlm? 😂
I NEVER understand why these people literally say not sleeping, working 24-7 and not doing anything fun (this girl hit all three- no Netflix, sleeping three hours a night, and messaging people 24 hours a day) is a flex. It is a great way to neglect your friends and family. Great job!
That's what brainwashing does to them- these women can't tell it's highly bad for their mental health to do so because of how much kool-aid they're drinking, and we can see it in this video: one moment, it's a flex, another is a sacrifice for the hustle if you want big numbers, and at the end, they try to guilt-trip with it.
It all depends on what emotions they want to evoke in the listeners.
It’s so sad that these people are giving up such valuable moments with loved ones for a scam. Sometimes the best moments are watching crappy tv shows with your family, randomly going out on a whim, being able to stop what you’re doing and support a loved one during a bad time. Is money really worth it?
There are other ways to make money but you can’t salvage those relationships and missed moments. You should be working to live- to be around and experience life, not live to work where you’re just prolonging the sinking of a doomed ship. I’d rather be scammed of money than those precious moments with people I love, even if it’s just watching crappy tv or having a girls night out together.
“Mom let’s play football!”
“Sorry honey! I’m taking advantage of my ✨time freedom✨ by scamming people into Monat!”
I'm a writer, and I could not continue creating off three hours of sleep and no downtime. That's a good way to kill creativity and productivity (wish I could tell my younger self that).
@@brookem225 And the icing on the cake here is that you also get to PAY the company to do this!
So she had no idea what she was doing, she didn't know the products, gave people bad recommendations, but she managed to succeed because she managed to recruit a ton of people who also didn't know what they were doing. That's such an odd thing to brag about.
I think it’s pretty telling that the upline slipped and called herself and other up lines the “boss” of the people on the call. During the pitch to recruit someone that person is told that joining the MLM is a way to free him/herself from having a boss, but once in the MLM, I guarantee everyone feels that they have multiple bosses. And uplines take a position of authority over their recruits and try to manage them as a boss would (but with way less boundaries).
Right and the boundaries do not end at 5 PM!
Ok but if their Shampoo is so great, why do most Monat reps always have their hair up in a pony or bun during these videos? 🤔
Or wear hats.
Right?!?! I always notice that too! Very rarely do I see one with their hair down! 🤷🏻♀️😂
While Hannah's hair is what they dream of!
@@kierstinl3787 I came here to say hats! That should NOT be a trend for slimy shampoo salespeople!😳😹 Shows how much they really know what they're doing!!!
Oh. my. gosh.…do you think hell Is like cold messaging strangers every spare moment of every day????
"Ignore the part of your brain that is trying to keep you safe" is next level MLM life advice. Around 50:00-50:30.
"I have a heart for helping people" then bb go volunteer at the food bank
There needs to be a movie about a big group of friends who act as strangers and all band together to "scam the scam." It's like Ocean's Eleven for MLMs. 🤔 How about the Monat 8? 😆😆
Love this!
I think there should be the movie "The Wolves of Main Street". About a woman who moves to a new town and get sucked into an MLM
1st hun: says 2nd hun is going to get into the “nitty-gritty” of how to succeed in Monat
2nd hun: 30 minutes of trite platitudes, victim blaming, and Tony Robbins
this just occurred to me... her saying "do this exactly as i did and you will get to the same position" is pretty much the same as an early investor in Microsoft or Google or Bitcoin saying that. "just buy 10% market share dirt cheap and you'll be a billionaire in no time!" It's literally impossible to copy early success 1-to-1 several years later! The same amount of work / capital doesn't get you the same kind of "mileage", not without a time machine!
This!!!!!!!
This is one of the best comparisons I've ever seen for this
Wow! All I heard was "put your family, kids, and friends on the back burner for your business." What a miserable existence to have. I couldn't imagine telling my kids "sorry I can't play with you in this incredible, short time I have with you. Mom's 'business' that will statistically go nowhere is more important." Disgusting!! This literally makes me sick.
I was depressed for 11 years and when I finally got it under control, I felt like I needed to make up the time I lost by constantly being busy. It took a couple years of therapy for me to accept that doing nothing can be self care and that I shouldn't feel guilty about it. I can absolutely see how being in an MLM can lead to depression or exacerbate it.
How did you get it under control? Asking for a friend🤪
@@britt2607 It was a number of things. I finally found a combination of meds that worked for me, I forced myself to regulate my sleep schedule so I wasn't staying up all night several times a week (definitely the hardest thing), and I moved my computer from my bedroom so I had to actually get out of bed if I wanted to use it, so it made me stop isolating myself.
ETA - I also got off social media for a month. I forgot about that. It's been 7 years since I got it into remission so I'm sure I'm also missing something else.
@@britt2607 I
@@britt2607 😅 no
If my company says be on a 8pm zoom call I would know it's serious since it will be paid overtime!
This is infuriating. I hit burnout so bad I landed in the hospital a few times. I now have long lasting effects from it including passing out randomly. Working 24/7 is not cute. It's not a badge of honor. It's dangerous. I'm so thankful now that I have a set schedule so I know when I'm done working. I can actually enjoy life.
Oh my gosh that sounds awful! I’m glad you’ve found some kind of balance
Hun: this business will give you time freedom and you’ll be able to spend time with your family.
Also Hun: you have to have your family realise that they come second to your business and you have to ignore them completely for your business
The saddest and scariest thing about that is she is at the top, so it literally never ends, the work hard ignore your children mindset exists at the bottom and the top, in the wise words of Hannah… No thank you…lol
Does her daughter want to go to Bahamas, or does she just want her mom to spend time with her and the Bahamas is what she associates with it? 🤔
As a former teacher my ears hurt when someone says "Times this number" multiply... you multiple numbers.
"no nexflix, no free time", where is that freedom mlms promise when you first join? 🤔
"this is not hard!"
...later in the call "this is hard work!"
This is supposed to be bootcamp, but they didn't give these market partners tangible instructions to hit mmb. This training is devoid of value.
You know, when I’m looking to purchase a new computer, I head over to Best Buy and ask for their greenest tech sales person. Because I really love getting recommendations from people who don’t know anything about what they’re selling. Just as long as they want to help people, then it’s all good. 🙄
10:03 - THIS. This is the only thing anyone ever needs to know and it should be enough to keep them from falling into the MLM trap.
This was posted just as I started packing and cleaning for a move next month. Thank you for the great content and being a voice for those who've been scammed before by these terrible companies.
good luck and hope the move is a smooth transition 💕
@@soggytortillla Thank you so much! 💖
Good luck with packing and your move!
It’s so upsetting that they constantly push people to “sacrifice” time and fun with their kids. They grow up so fast and that is not time you can get back. It makes me feel so sad for everyone involved. x
🎼Just another Monat Monday 🎶🎵
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Hannah!!!!!! This video was everything I needed especially the part when you spoke to those who are in Monat and said it is not your fault !!!! Not sure if you remember but I am still part of Monat and honestly it took some reflecting to now consider not being part of the business and I haven't said that until now. After weeks of going through the goals and not hitting them weeks after weeks. I said you know what there are other ways to make money on the side then having to harass the same people or create conversations to potentially make a sale. It didn't feel right and I didn't build a team because if I'm feeling this way now, how can I get others to join and potentially look at me as if I took advantage of them.
I have decided to pursue other ways that will help pay off my debt and where I don't need a team of people to determine my paycheck. I'm going back to learning about real estate and wholesaling, while working as a cop in NY and I also have a part time side gig that helps bring in money too. I joined Monat to replace that part time gig so I could sleep, after 7 months of being in the business, I have very limiting time to waste of things that won't serve my future.
I felt a huge desire to share my story on your comments because who knows maybe there are other Market Partners in Monat watching your videos and feel the same way as I do. Thank you for continuing to serving the community. Love your videos!
🎉🎉🎉
Good luck!! I hope your new things are working out!
If you are still a cop, thank you for your service!
@@usagirocks thank you
Fellow MP here. Having all the same feelings, super convicted about it all. I truly don’t think my direct uplines are ill intentioned. I truly believe they are just brainwashed. I’m trying to compile information and slowly speak with girls (my sidelines) about this one on one. I feel bad for my uplines honestly because I think they are so brain wasted they have no clue as to why they are doing and how it’s hurting everyone under them. I’ve only been in for 4 months and how much you get sucked in in just this short period is astounding. I also want to help the new girls too. They’re so motivated and honestly it will fade. It’s not them that will fail, it’s the system.
I'm like 30 seconds into their Zoom call and I already have so many questions. How did you know that the opportunity is so fantastic after being in the company for 3 days? How did you know how awesome the company is? Oh wait... none of that matters.
Edit: if I had not paused it so quickly, Hannah goes over all of that right away!
LOL! I do the same thing. I’ll pause and talk about what I think then play it and she says the exact same thing!
This was horrifying on so many levels but something that the second woman said that really got to me was how she was 10 months behind on her mortgage and couldn't afford childcare so she had no other option but to join an MLM. I can't really disagree with her. She was trapped and didn't have choices. It sucks that waiting for her was a scam opportunity that even if it worked for her, counted on her making promises she couldn't keep and preying on other vulnerable women. This says so much about the serious need for universal childcare in this country, and a min wage increase that correctly reflects the heinous cost of living.
Absolutely! The broken system allows these grifters a way in with their "selling the dream" crap.
Agree but I have to wonder who her lender was ,eviction usually occurs after 3 months of missed payments
@@stephaniebobek817foreclosures usually take longer than that and she may have been on some kind of forbearance.
@@sarahbreheny-hood9061 thank you such as part of a bankruptcy?
You are so gosh darn eloquent and compassionate- I think newbie huns could come here and learn more about their own mlms than from their uplines… thanks for keepin it classy and educational. I love that we have mix of perspectives on this topic - from sass to class. Keep up the good fight!
WHAT?! I read 15 books just in April and did not get a raise… I need a meeting with my miss grand garnet crystal president elect boom ba doom super base supreme RIGHT NOW!
Especially the boom ba doom part 🤣🤣🤣
Lots of cult tactics on display with this one. The thing that stuck out to me the most was when she preached for them to keep their dream in the forefront and then no one will be able to stop them. She’s actually telling them not to let anyone stop them.
It’s tragic that people are still falling for this. Breaks my heart.
I was in the ER today and just miserable with a really bad headache and some bringing in my ears etc. I'm so happy that you of all people posted today with your soothing voice :)
Hope you feel better soon!
I hope you feel better!
If you had your own monet business you wouldn’t even have to miss work! You could be working right from the ER Ashelyn!
@@kadeelacayo4806 good lord that sounds miserable 😅😅😅
@@HannahAlonzo thank you hannah and Mary! I'm feeling much better than yesterday 🧡🧡
I know this is a two month old video but as someone who struggles with executive dysfuction due to my ADHD, her being like 'just get out of bed and do something, you can make that decision' makes me absolutely livid
Yessss Hannah!!! I’m going to enjoy the shit talking about my real job while I do clinical notes. You’re quickly becoming my favorite anti-MLM content creator!
This hustle culture is so dangerous. Truly. It has real physical and mental consequences. How is this allowed?
Having you and your children make a vision board?! Like are you serious! The kids are going to be like, where’s our bigger house, new car, trips to the Bahamas?! That would kill me if I were a parent.
“I go to bed at 3 and wake up at 6!”……. All while messaging potential people going “you’ll have time freedom!” 🤦♀️
This mlm company is just 1 step away from requiring you to have a "tracker" injected into your arm.
That "if you don't have a positive experience with a product it's literally your own fault" thing really drives me nuts. I have run into that outside of MLMs too. Like their personal care products are so revolutionary we just don't understand how to use them. 🙃
If I buy shampoo at Walgreens and don't like it after using it a few times, I just go buy another brand. I get it on sale and I am not out that much money.
34:06 there it is - their “out” or loophole - “you have to have the right mindset (therefore, if you fail, you did not have the right mindset).”
My resume after leaving an MLM:
Skills
-Recommending good products
-Recommending this opportunity
🤡
😂😂😂😂
The part where she said her kid is like "you're always working Mommy" is like the worst thing. Cuz the kid being excited for the trip is either one or two things it could be that they obviously want their mom to pay attention to them so they'll start to care about the thing that their mom cares about or it's putting them on the road to materialism if you're not careful.
I just thought "Oh, she will have to be working on that trip, too!" 🙄😳🤔☹️
I’m sick and tired of them advertising a “free trip” that could literally be paid for by the money people “invest” into these schemes.
It’s sickening watch this. Amway leaders in LTD went on a trip to Hawaii then charged their down line to see them talk about their trip 😂😂😂
I just finished watching all your anti-MLM videos this morning. Then there's a new one! YAY! I love your content.
I love how she says that we all get one life and because of that we shouldn’t waste it. Therefore, join Monat to make the most out of it. LOL no….
Why the hell do they seem to think that "I didn't have any idea what I was doing!" is a positive spin on the story. I think what they're trying to say is, "I did all this without knowing what I was doing, so don't be afraid if you don't know what to do!" But what I hear is, "I was just BSing as fast as I could, so there's no way I can tell you how to do it, because you kindof have to just make up everything on the fly to get people to join." Which sounds like an awful job/INVESTMENT.
The Hannah hand motions that say 'You've made my point for me!'...😂
When I was in an mlm, their yearly vegas trip and any other events they held, you had to buy early cause they actually did increase the ticket prices right up to the day of. 😒 Pretty sure it was only to make sure we bought early and to put "a fire under us"
Why we gotta be so urgent lady?! So people don't have time to think perhaps? Makes them easier to scam.
Staying away from hustle culture is exactly why I havent pushed myself on a small business that I've always wanted. My husband and I have 5 children and we actually want to have a relationship with each other. Could we force ourselves to do more to bring more money in? Yes we could. But giving up time with our family is not worth it. We all know you are signing your life away by joining an MLM. So no one would ever convince me of the time freedom BS.
I personally love my 9 to 5. My boss spoils us and buys us lunch and gives us bonuses regularly. My coworkers are my friends and we do a pumpkin carving contest and secret Santa and I feel fulfilled with the work that I do. I also get to leave work at work and I don’t have to sleep three hours a night to accomplish it.
Imagine if they were experts in the products. What a concept
Ikr?? The ignorance on fire thing is really whack to me. I was in DECA for one year in HS and that was the golden rule. If you suck at being persuasive, or you constantly use filler words when speaking, etc, then go back to the gold. At the very least, you should know your product inside and out, & as long as you believe in it and know what you’re talking about, you likely won’t even use filler words and your passion will be enough persuasion (for the most part). I did that for one school year over four years ago & I still know better lol
“It’s business building season for Mommy right now.” 🤬
That is really disgusting. Especially when you’re talking this ‘opportunity’ up as a way to make money AND be with your kids.
I’m not shaming moms who work, whether that’s remote work or working at a location outside the home. But if it was me, I couldn’t imagine telling my kid that I didn’t have time for him because I was busy doing a bunch of free work in order to make someone else money.
Why is she admitting to promoting and selling a product she knows nothing about, to the point that she doesn't even know what a cuticle is? That's just basic hair knowledge.
I think this is one of your most eloquent vids yet. I sometimes am just bummed out seeing how many truly good qualities many of these people have (they do work hard! They're passionate! They want community! They want to help people! Etc, etc, etc!) And how MLM just misuses those qualities and keeps these people running in circles and wastes their time and their money, chews them up and spits them out. It just makes me sad.
“Don’t settle because if you do, I won’t continue to make obscene amounts of money off of you!!!” Is what she would say if she weren’t spewing BS.
Merry Monat Monday and holy income claim Batman @ 30:00. It’s important to mention that MDC isn’t the same as Millionaire every time because the misconception is so common. Also, it’s such a good insight to mention that they’re pushing for more MMBs so that they can rank up and earn more.
As soon as I read the start of your comment, the 'Manic Monday' song jumped into my head, but as Monat Monday. 😂😂
What I really appreciate about a 9-5 is the healthy boundaries it entails where work stays at work within the confines of that time frame. I don't have to have random thoughts at 11pm when I'm laying in bed like "I should be doing more work". Working from home or from your phone is very difficult to create healthy boundaries with. It's not impossible, but it takes pointed effort, willpower, and practice. But with MLMs they encourage the opposite of boundaries, which is even more unhealthy. To me this is where it can tailspin into the ruminating thoughts of not being "good enough". No effort becomes enough, no rank becomes enough, and eventually you start to view yourself as "not enough". Being in an MLM breeds dissatisfaction to the core, which breaks my heart to witness.
I typed this all out before watching till the end, so I did hear them say to create some boundaries with parent time vs working the biz time. Unfortunately, as far as work goes, it still is an unhealthy balance to be working into the wee hours of the morning because your subconscious is guilting you to be constantly doing more (which us likely from your upline planting that thought into your subconscious).
It started off as "you need to do this 24 hours a day if you want to do well" to " well you can do it just by taking an hour a day from your kid" - it quite literally can't be both. It's one or the other!
They literally have no idea what they’re talking about
They always cover both sides of the spectrum to manipulate whoever is on a certain side will stay. It’s so disgusting!
Rank requirements for MLMs are very similar to grinding side quests in open world games.
She just said she only had 2 friends, who were no longer her friends today, then goes on to say how she helped ALL her broke friends. Hmm…
She said a couple of times something like "...all you have to do is model that behavior to the people you bring in... just rinse and repeat the behavior of the people that brought you in..."
So, the people who did well in this company are those that started early. By her own logic, downlines should look for a brand new MLM startup, because that's the only way they'll have a snowball's chance in hell of doing well (and odds are, they won't be able to sustain things even if they actually do well.
After watching Münecat‘s deep dive on Tony Robbins, I would be more likely to quit my company sooner if I heard he was speaking at our conference.
I read 32 books. Like…just any books??? 😂 I’m gonna read all the Goosebumps books and see if I become a millionaire.
Alternating between binging you and Chelsea these days, so I'm glad there's a new video haha!
Yes, so am I! 😁
Haha. I’m on the same algorithm, I believe!
The sunken cost fallacy that you talk about and this is exactly why I remained a coach for as long as I did with Beachbody. After about five years, I started to really feel like maybe this wasn’t my place anymore. But I had invested so much time and energy and money into the situation that I felt like I needed to stay and try to make it work. At the point of eight years I’ve visited that same thought again after having some decent success (nothing great but noticeably better than when I first had that thought), and I realized that I probably should leave. But I talked to somebody about it, and they convinced me to stay and I stuck around for another two years before I finally walked away from it all. This entire conversation was a lightbulb moment for me today even though I’ve been gone for over a year now. I really did feel like I had given too much time and effort to the company to leave, and it would be considered giving up and that I would be made fun of for leaving after all of that time.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience Elle!! ❤️
Saturday, I was buying myself and my husband teas from one of the Herbalife clubs.. I know, shame on me 😫 but anywho.. they've been bugging me for years to join. They really tried that day, and I let them know I wasn't interested, then they kept going on and on about why I would "be amazing" at it, so I told them I don't want to have to file a 1099 and keep track of the receipts and other paperwork. It was super awkward since there were so many other people in there just watching and listening silently like 😳👀
I understand you have to file 1099 with your own legitimate business as well, but I'm way too lazy and unorganized to do that 🤣 which is why I'm perfectly fine working for the dreaded corporate office 👍
Every time I hear a Monat hum say there’s a learning curve or a special way to learn to use their shampoo, I want to say if your product is difficult for customers to use, then it is not ready for market and needs to go through more testing. But then, we get into the fact that Monat Huns do not have any control of their products because they are not entrepreneurs and are not business owners.
“All of my friends were broke and hungry, so I sold them overpriced shampoo” lol nah
I absolutely love your analysis, you get every detail about these scammers. I particularly liked the part you mentioned that the first people who buy the convention tickets are most likely to stay in the team to make their investment worthwhile.
I'm so glad I'm not stuck in an MLM and can enjoy my 9-5 doing what I love as a helicopter mechanic
Do they ever do “product knowledge”? Is that important to the “business owner?”
18 minutes in, and I just got a message from some lady in pampered chef that is throwing a Facebook friend a “party”. Lol. I got a cold message that said “Jessica’s only $200 away from her goal”. I looked through the Fb group and no one has bought anything. LOL. She also asked if I wanted to join a party. No. No, I do not. Lol.
Edit: have a party. Lol.
Okay, so by her logic, when I was reading 113 books while making minimum wage means the following year I should've made 7 times that minimum wage the next year?
I 100% love my full time day job! It's great, flexible, and chill - and I get to work with art, artists, and curators regularly. I'm paid well, especially for someone relatively new to my field (archives/collections management) and I'm valued and treated well
I also do actually get paid for trips as well as paid time off haha
it would be such a turn off if someone tried pitching to me by assuming I hated my day job....
All this is so stressful. Who in their right mind wants to work 24/7 all for a house of cards where it can topple and fall at any moment. Thanks but no thanks!!
“So and so didn’t work hard enough so I didn’t hit my rank”…… she labels this as a bad mindset and that instead you should just “show up as yourself/worry about doing the work yourself” yet she’s here telling all of the people under her that they need to work constantly!?!
"Marry the process. Fall in love with the process." Tell me you're in a cult without telling me you're in a cult.
it's so hilarious how the "training calls" are literally 5 seconds of actual advice for every 30 minutes of blather. Like they say a nice sounding sentence and then spew bs about their personal lives for 20 minutes that literally no one actually cares about 😂
And YOU get no time off. And YOU get no time off. And YOU. And YOU. Hahahahaha!
She wants people to read over 30 books when? 3 hours sleep, no free time... when are you supposed to read books?