Cheapest Desktop CNC That can cut Steel
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2019
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The Shariff DMC1 is a powerful 3-axis desktop CNC milling machine, unlike anything you've seen before. It's designed with one goal in mind: to bring you the core capabilities of a job shop industrial CNC machine in a smaller, affordable and just as accurate form. From its robust steel construction to dual ball nut driven axes, the DMC1 offers incredible rigidity, power, and accuracy in a $2800 USD package you can fit into just about any workshop corner.
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So, here's a cheap mill that will cut steel... let's watch it cut some aluminium...
need coolant going, so you dont get to see the pretty chips
@@anikidwolfy is work without coolant if you want to show something.... is just about lifetime of the tool
@@anikidwolfy So use some coolant....?
People watching videos on home cnc machines want DATA like prices, capabilities, service life etc... NOT dubstep and reality TV... No, I won't leave a thumbs down because content creation is hard and I respect that. This is constructive criticism, not hating.
10 minute video. First 3:25 is irrelevant. 🙄
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I don't care about the cars, I clicked on the video to find information that is advertised in the title of the video.
With a third job, I'll obtain this in no time.
Lmao same
Can it cut a 9 and a half in diameter? Like a round plate?
Yet do you have a link I can see how much?
~4:56 Why not shut the door❓
like... edit that part out? you just sound like... geez.
Sorry the Kickstarter didn't fund. Any additional info on these devices and if they are going to be made and sold? Just curioius.
This looks like an awesome machine and I would really like to get my hands on one. However for me personally it is too much money for a Kickstarter project, with no guarantee of actually receiving the product. I wish the best for them and hope they achieve their goal. So maybe I can get one after the campaign as a finished product, for a higher but (hopefully) still affordable price.
Hey, did you ever get ahold of anyone about it? I have been trying on FB and email and get no response
Im building one myself and if it is done I'll probably make a Kickstarter, 75x 90y 13z (cm max volume) can cut aluminum and price 2500€ for kit and 3500€ for fully assembled (around that)
Some nice machining, especially on the circular cut one with lots of features. Have you tried the "Only One PM60" end mills made by YG? I've been using one on hardened, toughened and tempered steel and it cuts like a knife through butter. I have a home CNC machine that I've converted using brushless DC motors on an Arduino Mega. Love all the projects at the university, keep up the good work 👍😀
It's really a shame that it looks like this won't get funded. The single reason I haven't purchased myself a desktop cnc is the crappy quality of what is on the market. The Nomad is probably the best available, but for the price, not being able to flood, and not having ball-screws is a total deal-breaker. This thing looks amazing.
Thanks! At this point it does look like we might not reach our goal, however we will most likely still go through with production and deliver machines to the current backers. I'd recommend signing up to the email list so you can follow our progress: www.shariffdmc.com/
An idea for "version 2”: What is a "killer app" for desktop metal milling? I don't know. There is also this Kickstarter (www.kickstarter.com/projects/3d-high-resolution/3d-jewelry-scanner-shadow-bands-heirloom-gemstone/), which is a 4 axis jewelry-quality 3d scanner. If it comes through, could it be connected via software to the DMC to basically make a kind of ”replicator" - at least within the constraints of a 3-axis setup.
(Or a “90-degree angle constrained 4-axis"? You mill one "side" of a model, leaving a solid top and bottom plate, then rotate it 90 degrees around the y axis [right-handed coordinate system with the spindle as the z axis], mill another "side", and so on. Then you turn it "right side up" and mill off the solid top plate.)
I don't know if it even makes sense to talk about a "killer app" for a $2.5-3K metal mill - given that metal mills are (I assume) basically thought of as "work machines”, and not “serious playthings” like consumer 3D printers are. They are certainly are *priced* as such - as is a $3-4K DMC1. But the same was true of 3D printing I assume before the "3D Printing Explosion" 5-10 years ago (?) after Stratasys's and others key patents ran out. (Someone at Stratasys is maybe kicking themselves right now that they didn't *create* the "desktop 3D printing" market.)
Then license FDM/SLA tech for a modest quarter-penny per machine, and make at least a minuscule fortune. I (probably) wouldn’t have hurt their core business at the time, which was (again, I assume) only large format, industrial printers that cost over 1/2 million. But then, patent "licensing" doesn't really fit with the "maker economy". It *could*, it's just there is no real micropayment/logistical network to facilitate it - I don't think.)
Could we be at a point in 5-10 years where metal milling is as common in the "low-medium end maker sphere" as 3D printing is today? I don't know - milling obviously has greater safety concerns (anything that has a sharp object spinning at around once a millisecond would). Make the plastic shield harder, put a hard-to-disable relay switch in so that it won't engage unless the cover is closed, and include high-quality impact resistant goggles and earmuffs.
Or (much easier than the DMC-D3D idea) make a thing that will take a drawing, scan it in, and then allow it to be carved directly onto a plate, with several selectable or user-created styles. (Ideas:
1. Outline a drawing with a V-bit "inward bevel", reverse "outward bevel", or round-over bit.
2. variable cross hatching for opaque areas.
3. Interface with Prisma or some other "AI-based art-portrait app".
4. Various things with depth.
5. Some kind of PolyJet-like pigment deposition integrated into the system? No real idea how that would work. Since the machining process itself heats the metal to whatever high temperature, could a suitably nontoxic pigment be melted onto the hot metal right after it gets carved?
6. Integrate with Facebook and Instagram (they *are* basically the same, even if FB doesn’t want to admit it.) Take a picture from FB, carve it, and have it automatically mailed to a friend.. Advertise it like Apple’s iPod - ”Select, Mill, Drop off at UPS" (Charged to your Libra account - or Paypal, Apple Card, or Amazon Pay if you're creeped out by Facebook becoming a *bank*.)
7. Netflix - get a metal print of your favorite movie scene (you pay a small fee, the studio and Netflix both get a small cut.)
Okay, numbers 6 and definitely 7 are rather ridiculous. (But then, 20 years ago, the idea of the life-sharing-time-suck called Facebook - or consumer drones - would have been considered ridiculous too!)
Take any of these ideas, and make some kind of agreement with some bulk metal supplier, and (for the photo applications) maybe Nikon/Canon/etc to integrate "processing-and-preview" software directly into the camera. (Though if a person is going to drop $800+ for a DSLR, will they really want to drop another $2000 on a mill?)
To continue with the ridiculous automation bit, connect the camera to the DMC via Wifi, then work with the Mirobot small-industrial-robot people (www.kickstarter.com/projects/mirobot/mirobot-6-axis-mini-industrial-robot-arm/) to make a thing that will automatically take a slab of metal from your stock, load it into the DMC, mill it, and put it on the table when you get home, ready for de-burring. (Or sell a separate machine for that - kind of a ”Form Wash for metal")
(Then you notice that your pile of metal plates is getting low, so you arrange a new delivery from the DMC-partner metal dealer [sounds like it's a drug], to be delivered the next week by FexEx for a bargain shipping price of $60 for the 40-pound load (plus the cost of the Aleve for the delivery person’s back).
@@ragnarokofborg the rantings of a mad man
@@shariffdmc3406 Looks like you survived and released a 2nd version, awesome!
Take half the video to get to the point.
A lot of talk about nothing.
LMAO!!!
I'd really love to get one of these, but spending 2.5k€ on that thing is - as a student - sadly too much.
Still, I'd love to buy one of these in a few years and wish best luck in getting your project off the ground
You can build it yourself for around 500-600. There was a successful 5 axis kickstarter last year for $3000 with automatic 12 tool changer. It seems they just barely didn´t make the goal.
What kit is there to build one for 500€ have u got a link?
@@gt0163 nah for 500€ you can dream of that hardware ...if you are like really good in mechanics and have already a milling machine you aint going anywhere...electronics it's already 200€ ..linear guides and ballscrew are not cheap, and after trying some 20mm. Ballscrew and linear guide from THK I don't reccomend to buy the shi t Chinese one, the one that you see in the video are, my reccomendation? Find a cnc maker in you zone and ask if they have retired machines..you'll have to redo the electronics but trust me the mechanics is the difficult part. For 600€ I bought an all cast aluminium that weights 150kg with all the hw trow at it 100€ for drivers and 50 € euro of a controller and you have a machine capable of handling aluminium..when you can make your own part everything will be more rechable, my machine has also a 650*450 work area so pretty big and it has a cast aluminium bed that is 4 cm thick ..only that is going to cost you a fortune ..so moral of the story if you buy it it's better ..with the smaller machine you can do plates and precise parts for a bigger machine and then fill it with a composite mix of epoxy and sand to have a good absorption of vibrations ...getting a little sidetracked here
@@fabiofoltran4361 i am begginer for all of this what do you think i should buy a lathe or cnc? Considering I have some know-how metal casting hobbies in my backyard
@@dogodogo5891 I'm not really the one that should tell you but for example a few months ago I bought a cnc with a working area of 650mm * 450mm for 600€ ..that's pretty cheap here in Italy but with the same money I would have bought an used lathe (a big one) ,the cnc that I bought doesn't have the controls so I have to remake all the electronics but that's not a problem ..with the first cnc I plan to built parts for a bigger one ..20mm linear rails and ballscrews..and a bigger working area...the little one can cut aluminium so I can make some really nice parts out of it .. it's nothing special but for now it will suffice ..then I don't know your budget so ..but if you can try to see on the used market if they have anything good ..(my cnc was a used one from the 90' but it's better than anything that you can get from China for the same price) same for the lathe don't buy the little overpriced one (imported from China ) buy a old big one ..they are built to last and won't break down on you
Bro that’s fucking expensive I’m just going to but a 3D printer and mod that holly shit man
you did not say enough about the CNC machine, Ten minute video and I still know nothing about it.. I take it that is a 2.2kw spindle? just asking as no one said so, also what size rails? people needed info and there really was non
Hi, can this be used for making intricate aluminum molds for plastic injection of board game miniatures (full of fine details) such as the ones from Games Workshop?
machine seems extremely precise.. best for prototyping
is there anyway to actually buy the cnc? or did they not launch it? What kind of spindle does it need to cut steel?
Hi bummer i just saw this video. To find out it didn't happen on Kickstart . Will he try again to sell it . Thanks
Dude's about to do the splits in the intro
Would like too get one of these cnc machines. Can it also do smooth finish cuts?
If you have to ask that question you need to do more research before spending any money.
Hello from south bend Indiana! Do you provide software with your mill?
Appreciating his name is Omar Sharif 😁
Insanely cool. TYVM for taking the time to go do this. Is this project running/live?
The project didn’t make it on Kickstarter. But you can check out the links. He is making the machines to order.
honestly as an online marketeer, if you made this video a few days before the end of the kickstarter campaign, the problem is marketing, not the product. Maybe try again and hire a company experienced with kickstarter campaigns to help. It'll probably be twice as succesful.
This channel is sweet! Just sub’d
Sadly, it never reached its goal on KickStarter. So is this design or some logical successor to it still around? Or does anyone know where to find something with similar capabilities?
Ghost Gunner CNC
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 Yeah, its kinda marginal for steel though. Maybe if you're careful.
You didnt even name the X and Y axis correctly when telling us the machining size. Lol 😂
So guys have just found this video, did the product ever get to market and if so what’s the availability
I’d love to have him as a teacher
Omar shariff was the name of a character on the hit NBC series "the west wing"
Omar Sharif was also a famous actor.
@@Vir9il And in Arabia it is also as common a name as Smith or Jones
Advertise that it cuts steel but only show it cutting aluminium? You mention something about testing so you don't break things. That's a smart thing to do but, doesn't the software have an option to input the type of bit and material used? If so, how well does it work? Is it pretty much set-and-forget or does it not work well?
So what happened to this kickstarter project (I mean other than the funding target wasn't reach)? Are these going to ever be available for purchase?
I was wondering the same thing myself. A search reveals its very hard to find something that isn't full on industrial and at the same time isn't a toy.
It is very curious/strange there is not phone customer service like any company offers. Does anyone knows it?
How much is the CNC?
I thought Omar Sharif was a world famous Bridge player….🧐
Is it using open source for the controller?
italautomata
>"Cheapest CNC for metal"
>2800, after tax/shipping would be another almost 1k
>lol
Man if Omar Sharif had this in Arabia he would have been able to equip his bedouin riders better for sure.
Has it launched yet? It's been a year
Not trying to put negative feedback into this. The machine seems capable, and good on the guy trying to bring something he seemed intrigued in to market. The biggest problem here, is the lack of experience from the creator. So many machines can perform these same tasks. If you find any used engraving machine on marketplace, or ebay you can easily get one with equal travel dimensions if not greater. Take the stock spindle off, buy a router, (bosch1617evs) with stock low runout, and machine 1018, or 304 stainless, or any grade aluminum. A used machine with the same.linear rails can be had for sub 1k. Bosch router - 200, precision collects for it from precise bits, another 200. I guess my point is that this may look amazing for anyone with no cnc experience. I'm not sure who the target audience is suppose to be for this. Sorry if this seemed negative, I just feel this another in a long line of desktop style "mills" that fall even shorter than most. Those parts looked rough off the machine.
whats a good alternative that can aluminum steel? on the market for one i can play around with and machine bike parts, shapeoko seems like another one but it doesnt seem "beefy"
Yea that wood router motor "milling" its literally off of aliexpress 2pole pos
Of course it is. Would you expect them to design and manufacture the spindle themselfs? You also want them to build their own steppers I guess or what are you expecting?
Every product designer wants to use working and already designed parts when possible and appropriate as it makes the product cheaper and more likely to actually get build.
@@ianmcchickenlover3704 I expect them to spec correctly. I expect them to actually give damn when picking parts
Not saying Chinese is bad All I am saying they put a wood spindle on a metal milling machine.
@@yoyobob1 On the product page for one of these it says for metal processing. The ones made for wood only (like bosch pof 500) are usualy made from plastics and wouldnt stand a chance against metal. While its true that many diy routers use spindles like this the reason that they could never mill steel is the stiffness of their machine bodys which are large and from extruded aluminium. This one is stiff enough to mill steel and the spindle is good enough for the job.
@@ianmcchickenlover3704 we did
Any way can i get one?
Is this even available to privately buy?
Cost?
200$ - 400$?
Лайк.. но Сабов не хватает очень интересно что говорит
Hmmm wonder if this would work to mill out 80% lowers...
Thats what made me first look for cheap CNC machines lol
literally why I'm here... Any luck?
Interesting
We all know what he uses that robotic arm for
That comment reminds me of Wolowitz from the Big Bang theory episode "The Robotic Manipulation": " I need an orderly with a wheelchair. I got a robot hand grasping a man’s ... out here... Sorry, we don’t have a code for robot hand grasping a man’s ..."
UGH! Video is all over the place... title says "Cheapest Desktop CNC That can cut Steel" not check out a bunch of vehicles and hammer man discipline... Price? Availability?
I think the funding for the CNC machine was not successful but this should not be abandoned, even till today there are no resonably priced machines that can cut hard materials. I would buy the kit if he sells it, or at least opensource the plans and BOM.
How much is it selling?
Shame this Kickstarter didn't make it.
Work on that marketing.
منور يا ابو شريف
well I was interested in this machine but they didn't get the funding they needed I guess. but this is also why I dont like putting money into kick starters. if it doesn't get finished you just lost your money.
It just not a right time for me :(
Needs an update.
He got the X and Y all mixed up
Depending on the orientation of the table, that statement isn't necessarily true.
Ignorance is bliss.
I don't know if someone who doesn't understand how a clip-on microphone works should be considered an expert with CNC.
Too much of a gamble for me!
Unfortunately, this Kickstarter just missed its goal and interested 55 backers a few more and it might have been a reality.
I need this cnc
Have you seen the samurai 120 on Kickstarter
@@Seed-qj6jk now I've seen it but c'mon ...you are going. To pay 3500£ for mgn12 and 12mm ballscrew? What a joke 😂 the video was good then I scrolled down and saw that ...and I was like ..hell nah
@@fabiofoltran4361 what's wrong with those?
@@Seed-qj6jk well for cutting steel that hardware is pretty undersized ..I would go at least with 20mm guides and I still feel that is on the edge ...mng12 I have them on my 3d printer ..they are actually super cheap from China ...and they perform ..not good ...i mean they cost nothing to but they are kinda sh t, and they are not made for those task ..they have only 2 contact points and not 4 like brand name rails ..the 1204 screws idk I didn't try them but 12mm seems undersized to me..and we are paying 3500£ go to AliExpress and search for yourself how much those costs and then tell me how the f is the guy spending 3500£ for building that machine
@@Seed-qj6jk TLDR they are severely undersized, not up to the task and too cheap for what you are paying
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Damn shame it didn't get funded
Yea, have you seen the samurai 120
DMC is really a bad product name for a CNC because you know, theres already DMG MORI with there DMC Product Line.
I live in Illinois. Was always wondering what they were passing by almost every day lol
2800$ cheap?
Tbog represent
Yeah sure thing I totally have a spare $4000 bucks laying around for a small milling machine 😂👎🏼 this was just a ad with extra crap thrown in, I can’t believe I just watched ads on a ad video 🤦🏻♂️
It’s actually a good price for what it is. 2800. I really believe in this product and I was not paid to promote it. I really want this project become a real product.
Omar Sharif killed my friend for drinking water from his well.
I can build this in one month for half of the price.
Tell us more XD
I'll take 1
Aww hamburgers
Shattered they had no funding
Would sell more with you edited out!
Does it take g code? 😂 Asking for a friend that can't use soildworks
No. but real question everyone is wondering. Does it vape?
3:25 to skip to the machine
Dropping the F-Bomb doesn’t make you seem cool.
Never said a price
you showed steel that was cut but never showed it doing the cutting of the steel. so we take your word for it and just buy the machine right? well anyway i probably would but i just found this video and i see it was unsuccessful at Kickstarter because nobody knew it was even out there being made! i think you need to get alot of interest first then try the Kickstarter again. please because i need a true good steel cutting desktop cnc . the size would work for most of my projects 12inches by 8 inches and 5 and a half inch up down zed axis would be perfect for me. hope you try again and film some steel cutting perfectly and it will be gone sold out way before you can even make them! they need a lower price point also. no more that 1,200$ usa dollars. to be successful.
Feed rate ? spindle RPM ? bro steel titled , aluminum machined :|
First
What a mess X"D , too much loot and my inventory is full X"D
3rd
Not the cheapest. Not even in 2019
Didnt state price, didnt show it cutting steel. Shitty fucking strobing lights too
Language.
Terrible camera man.
How can this be the "Cheapest" metal cutting cnc? It's not even available. And at *$4500!!* yeah... no WAY the cheapest, available or not.
This is NOT the cheapest.
tm link?
@@dinocalia4668 samurai 120 or something
i get depressed when i watch techie videos. i am reminded how dumb I really am. I know NOTHING ..
You just need to keep going, don't give up, the more time you put in the more it will pay off.
@P A we should talk, lol..I have same problem when it comes to business. Too many good ideas, I want to do them all but end up doing none.
Don't worry that is how those same tech students feel when they start studying natural philosophy to bring their technology to the next level where magician misdirection techniques are applied to the patents to disguise the little known natural phenomena powering the device's effect. A lot of Tesla technologies were disguised like this 120 years ago so one can only imagine the depths defense departments go to disguise how their best devices work from the enemy and the public. Well, the one's the public know about that is...
The music is fucking awful.
Fail
looks pretty lame
this is why you tube makers get a bad reputation,,,,,, never watch your videos again
FALSE THUMBNAIL!
THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT A GARAGE, OR VEHICLES, ETC - WASTING MY TIME!
Sorry but this video could've been done so much better. I don't wanna be mean but sorry, why the tour, why are you talking about so many different things, why do you include the bit were you need to tell your employee to quiet down, why do you seem to be making this video so much about you?! People who click on this because of the title want to see the tool and only the tool; we want to see it working, like properly working, not with a stupid flashy compilation with crappy music overlayed; you're talking a bunch of stuff like that it supposedly can cut steel, but you're just showing us how it cuts soft aluminium and some supposed workpieces - thats not how you do it! It would be a real dealchanger on the market if it could, so why aren't you really showing us how it does the job?
And then you end the video on how we *immediately* need to send you money because otherwise the chance is gone; nah man, thats how someone sounds that wants to rip off the kickstarter and quickly wants to get in all money he can get before he runs off. The way you made this video just didn't make you seem trustworthy; the tool should've been the entire star of the show, not you, and it's for this reason this thing didn't took off. I haven't looked up how this turned out in the end, but im going out on a limb here and say that it probably never performed as well as you guys claimed.
Shariff don't like it...
You disrespect professional work when you curse during the pitch. To think a group of very intelligent people got together and produced high tech, modern, and new solutions, spent presumably thousands of hours of effort in constructing a practical desktop cnc system and some guy comes in and drops the F bomb twice introducing it to 300k people. SMH
Lmao you are such a fucking sensitive little bitch.