That guy has obviously never served in the military. NO ONE is denigrating her service in any way on any "technicality". What you write on your Form 93 prior to deployment is law, and legally binding so family members cannot usurp your wishes. The Army is right in every way here....and that's rare.
Being retired Navy, hating to agree with the Army on anything..lol They are 100% right here. I filled a DD 93 also. No matter what anyone says. That will not change no matter what anyone else thinks, feels or says about it. A service members final request should be honored.
With her length of service she had to or should have known what she documented. Who’s to say that her change of heart came about after coercion from her family. SMH.
@@renzinthewoods Yeah, she should've especially known the formal process, being of O-6 rank (Colonel) with 27 years in the Air Force. If she wanted to change her burial request status, she should've processed an updated DD-93 to strike Big Sur location and replaced it with Arlington National. No one's fault here but hers.
@@carlv8168 Possibly not her fault at all, if the family was trying to coerce her when she was dying or if they are bending the truth…something is kind of off about the husband…he triggered my “Spidey Sense.”
I can relate to the families pain, but I agree with you completely. You said the exact same thing I was saying they don’t know what the family may want that did differ from the deceased. That does happen a whole lot.
The husband is gaslighting "she isn't that important" gtfohwtbs. If they get it taken care of in court, she will get laid to rest there. Dd93 is a legal doc. They can't go off word or hear say. It's sad, and I get that no one thinks of these things in their worst moments. But it's part of unfortunate circumstances. It happens to a lot of ppl, sadly.
As a retired nurse, the husband and mother are angering me and the news reporting is unconscionable. She detailed her wishes. Families don’t get to alter things after the fact. She may very well have verbally stated otherwise but that doesn’t undo legally binding documents.
I know, and it's only "some of her ashes" for Arlington, the story leads you to believe her body is frozen in a cooler somewhere waiting for a coffin/grave,
@lowrider96 You need to go back and watch the video. She clearly stated that when she filled out the Army's form, what her wishes were in detail. The Army is bound by her written wishes until the family takes the case to court. Which the Army explains in their response. Try to keep up.
You would thnk as a colonel she would know better. and fill out a new form if she changed her mind. They lectured us time and time again when i was on active duty about this issue.
There is a reason why the emergency data card needs to be updated regularly. We are told from day one that it must be kept accurate and up-to-date. The reason why it exists is to be the constant when it’s surrounded by change and turmoil. While I sympathize with the family and agree that she should be buried there, the last official thing that the military has with her wishes on it was the emergency data card. If it is not kept up, there’s really nothing that the army or the Air Force can do to change it short of court orders and legalities. That is the whole reason why that EDC exists.
This is a misleading story... the family and the news media are portraying that her service is in some way being denigrated despite her wishes... the military is about attention to detail... if the late Col Lunardi specified her wishes, they (her family) should not then state that she is being dishonored... that's not right and they know it! The Army's response in my opinion respects the Col's wishes even more so ... and while she may have voiced that she'd like ANC - it was not written and the form was not amended... the family has to respect that her final resting place will still be honorable - because her memory is what matters most.
@@Look_What_You_Did actually you're wrong. A court of law must decide what her wishes were when she died, not when she filled out that form. People change their minds about things and just because she wanted one thing many years ago doesn't mean it's cast in stone, and the court will recognise that.
The cremated part wasn’t the problem, in fact I think due to space all Arlington burials now require cremation. It’s that in her wishes she documented she wanted her ashes to be scattered.
Sad story but it sounds like the Army is being as accommodating as possible, it's unfortunate her records weren't up to date. I don't get the impression the Army thinks "she wasn't that important" sounds like they are honoring her wishes per her last update.They should take the judge's advice and get a lawyer so they can fully understand what's going on. R.I.P to the hero .
Sorry for their loss but it isn’t just a technicality, it’s a legally binding document the late Colonel signed. Her husband is suffering for sure but seems a bit difficult. He needs to see a therapist I think.
Yes, it is not just a form, but a legal document reflecting her wishes. So, they just have to work the process to get it changed. It is neither disrespectful nor an insult to her memory or service.
Wouldn’t a Colonel know what forms need to be completed given her years of service, etc…? I don’t think anyone is trying to disrespect her, I think they’re trying to respect what she chose and legally listed.
So get a lawyer to draft the order and get over the drama. The Army is doing what they have on record as her wishes. If that had changed, get a judge to order different and get over the drama.
The Army explained to the family what steps to take to resolve the situation. Get an attorney and go to court. What's the problem? Do they not want to pay for an attorney?
That's why written documents are importan & need to changed if your wishes change. She put down what she wanted @ the time. Sad, but once you pass all they have is your written document! Anybody & their brother can say what ever they want once she passed.
This document gets updated yearly, its mandatory, everyone including the Joint Chiefs of Staff nobody gets by without signing off on it, because its all tied to death benefits
I feel for them, I really do. But the Colonel specified HERSELF on the DD Form 93 what she wanted done. The Army will not budge on that. I filled one out myself. Mine specifies A specific place to. They will not budge on that. They are honoring her wishes. A services member's final wishes should be honored. Regardless of what anyone else feels or thanks about it.
It sucks that the family would have more rights if she was retired. The fact she died on active duty is the kicker. Sounds like the Army/Air Force is in the right here, sadly.
My heart aches for this family. I imagine it is almost impossible to take on any more right now but maybe consider going through the process they suggested with a lawyer. So sorry that this has added to your grief. She sounds like a beautiful woman that has given you lots of reasons to be proud. I personally am thankful for all she did for our country. Wish I had met her so I could say that in person.
With due respect to the Colonel,the Army is technically correct and cannot go beyond those last written instructions. But it is not to insult the Colonel's memory or her family.A good lawyer can use the same system and get the courts to "order" the Army to accommodate the Arlington request.
The Army is right because her wishes are very particular about being scattered in California rather than buried. It took alot of deliberate steps showing that is what she wanted It's possible someone else wants her buried in Arlington. Anyone whose dealt with estates knows how tricky and mean they can become.
This happens all the time. They always say to update your vRED. I’ve heard many stories of ex-wives getting the life insurance money. The family is out of luck.
There are other national cemeteries to be buried at. Arlington is not the only choice. My father is buried at the National Cemetery in Beaufort, South Carolina, and it is a wonderful cemetery. Is there a National Cemetery anywhere near where the family lives? In many ways, that would be great because the family would live close enough to that cemetery to be able to go visit her grave anytime they want.
It's not about the cemetery They wont do ANYTHING But Do What Are Documented Wishes Are. It's About DOING WHAT THE ARMY TELLS YOU TO DO IN ORDER TO CHANGE IT - FOLLOW ORDERS! Thats What SHE Would Do.
This is no where near as bad as the headline had me expecting. For once, I feel the military is doing the right thing. They have to go by the 93 until a court orders otherwise. This isn’t something they can just turn a blind eye to.
With out the form she does qualify to be intern at Arlington war time service died still on active duty or a retired Service member Arlington has a list criteria be buried there she meets most of them and it only take one on the list and once other half is entitled to be buried there also One good example is Lee Marvin the actor he was a World War II, marine veteran Purple Heart recipient, and 100% disabled veteran from his wounds received in battle that qualified him to be interned at Arlington
Respectfully. She can not be burred at Arlington. Even she would accept that... because you don't make Colonel without the bureaucracy. They are literally following her order. The family will have to get over it too.
If this service member had retired prior to her passing then only the Living Will would be the applicable document for this situation as DD93’s are strictly for Active Duty purposes. I found out after retirement that the DD93 (Also known as virtual Record of Emergency Data/vRED) over rules any Living Will if a service member dies while on active duty. Sad situation but is something that is deleted by the members and treated like junk mail (I’m guilty of this as well) whenever the Judge Advocate/Legal/JAG office sends out this specific topic at least once yearly because this scenario still occurs in different yet similar ways as to this Colonel and her family. The reporter is correct with the process to get a court order to grant survivors authority on overriding what the DD93 says. DD93’s are required to be updated/verified at least yearly, prior to departure for a new deployment or whenever a life event changes like birth, marriage, un-marriage, etc. My guess is this member was unable to remember this admin action while dealing with all the medical issues until her passing. My heart goes out to the family and hopefully the court action gets expedited so they can move forward with their lives.
this sucks but, its all in the paper work.....As bad as that sounds Im shocked the wait time hasnt been mentioned. Some many different factors go into that alone...from weeks to months The Inspector General report in 2019 on wait times were crazy but its a good read!!!
If the Husband and Mother had dedicated as much time to getting a lawyer as the Army suggested as they have to seeking media coverage of this nonevent, COL Lunardi’s ashes would now be secure in a niche at Arlington. Many, many families have legitimate claims against the military for various reasons but this Husband and Mother are not included. Theirs is a simple solution which they reject in favor of seeking the limelight by conjuring sympathy that is unwarranted. Thankfully the comments to this post are nearly 100% in accord with this observation. Further, this media TV station is complicit in helping these family members gain recognition where none is deserved. Their reporter should have asked: “Why haven’t you engaged an attorney and procured the court order that the Army has admitted will secure what you want?”
She was a military Colonel., a career military officer and not a basic Private or Airman. She made a choice. Using this platform to argue one side isn't being respectful to either the decedent or to the Army. Had she NOT given her intentions, her status would have permitted her burial in the Columbarium. Without getting into a debate too, because of limited space, above ground burials with military markers is restricted to Honorably Discharged or Active Duty personnel regardless of rank who were awarded the Medal of Honor, Services Distinguished Services Crosses, the Silver Star or the Purple Heart. Which I beleive none of which were award to this service member either.
Rank doesn't mean crap when it comes to Arlington due to the over crowding in Arlington not all veterans can be interred at Arlington. Certain criteria must be met, such as being awarded the Purple Heart or at a minimum of the Silver Star. Due to the diminishing plots available The criteria has recently been altered and the requirements for interment have been narrowed, so rank is not a criteria anymore!!!
You are correct as to a burial plot but it is much easier to get a niche for cremated ashes, and this Colonel (as shown in video) made clear her desire to be cremated.
The husband is making this all about himself. And to claim that the Air Force is saying she was "unimportant" is ridiculous. The Colonel signed an official document about her burial wishes. The Air Force is simply complying with those wishes. If her wishes could be changed after her death without any signed documentation from her, what's the point of the first document? The family is claiming she changed her mind, but how does the Air Force know that's true? They don't. Therefore, they have to go based on her original signed document.
Here is a bit of friendly advice for the red tape they should reach out to the Vice President. The VP can technically overrule the decision on the DD Form 93 as her wishes did change to be buried at Arlington Cemetery.
For those who are not aware, Arlington has very strict rules and regulations. Not all veterans ( regardless of rank of years service qualify for burial ) Joe Lewis family went through the same situation. Their request was finally granted by no other than the President! I believe the reason for Arlington restrictions is “space”. There’s not enough space available for the amount of veterans of all ranks or years of service wishing to be buried there.
What are the rules to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery? Persons eligible are members of the Armed Forces who die on active duty; veterans who are retired and receiv- ing retired pay, or would be eligible for retired pay but for their age, or are eligible for retirement but remain in an active reserve status; certain former members of the Armed Forces who were sep- arated
27 years? Um…. And the issue is paperwork she probably filled out when she first joined, and had no family? My forms said I wanted my brother to spread my ashes on the White House rose garden during a full moon. So apparently it’s a go, they would have made it happen.
“We”? So your personal experience is of importance, while my own TIS is irrelevant? You sound like you were in the army, which is why your so ignorant. Sad that you have to press your stupidity into others. Not everyone that joins is able to stay in for twenty years. Try being a actual grunt carrying a hundred pounds of gear for more than eight years. If you got no respect for COMBAT veterans still walking, you certainly got zero respect for those that have passed. Go kick rocks down the middle of a busy road.
the Army needs to make an exception here no fuss no money wasted in court get biden to sign it or the sec defense and be finished this is stupid, miss me with this BS
Why should they make an exception. She stated in writing what she wanted and it didn't mention being interned at Arlington National Cemetery. As a veteran, I still remember my Basic training. Always follow the last order given. In her case it was to be scattered over Big Sur.
The Army can't be certain that an alleged conversation was her final wish. So many people lie about this stuff. You wouldn't believe how many people use the dead to propagate their social standing.
There is no evil intent here. The Air Force is simply honoring the Colonel’s written wishes, which is consistent with their policy.
That guy has obviously never served in the military. NO ONE is denigrating her service in any way on any "technicality". What you write on your Form 93 prior to deployment is law, and legally binding so family members cannot usurp your wishes. The Army is right in every way here....and that's rare.
Being retired Navy, hating to agree with the Army on anything..lol They are 100% right here. I filled a DD 93 also. No matter what anyone says. That will not change no matter what anyone else thinks, feels or says about it. A service members final request should be honored.
With her length of service she had to or should have known what she documented. Who’s to say that her change of heart came about after coercion from her family. SMH.
@@renzinthewoods Yeah, she should've especially known the formal process, being of O-6 rank (Colonel) with 27 years in the Air Force. If she wanted to change her burial request status, she should've processed an updated DD-93 to strike Big Sur location and replaced it with Arlington National. No one's fault here but hers.
Right. I signed a butt load of those forms in my day.
@@carlv8168 Possibly not her fault at all, if the family was trying to coerce her when she was dying or if they are bending the truth…something is kind of off about the husband…he triggered my “Spidey Sense.”
Thy are NOT saying she wasnt important. They are HONORING HER wishes!! Thats ultimate respect.
I can relate to the families pain, but I agree with you completely. You said the exact same thing I was saying they don’t know what the family may want that did differ from the deceased. That does happen a whole lot.
The husband is gaslighting "she isn't that important" gtfohwtbs. If they get it taken care of in court, she will get laid to rest there. Dd93 is a legal doc. They can't go off word or hear say. It's sad, and I get that no one thinks of these things in their worst moments. But it's part of unfortunate circumstances. It happens to a lot of ppl, sadly.
I can see the Armys point - that is why you have WRITTEN documents like that.
As a retired nurse, the husband and mother are angering me and the news reporting is unconscionable. She detailed her wishes. Families don’t get to alter things after the fact. She may very well have verbally stated otherwise but that doesn’t undo legally binding documents.
It’s not technicality she chose it
How can a family be mad at the army when she filled the paper out herself….
Did you bother to watch the video or what? Go back to sleep.
I know,
and it's only "some of her ashes" for Arlington,
the story leads you to believe her body is frozen in a cooler somewhere waiting for a coffin/grave,
@lowrider96 You need to go back and watch the video. She clearly stated that when she filled out the Army's form, what her wishes were in detail. The Army is bound by her written wishes until the family takes the case to court. Which the Army explains in their response. Try to keep up.
@@lowrider96 I did. She previously filled out a form requesting her remains to be placed elsewhere. I'm sorry for the family's loss.
It's a Legal Form, not a Technicality.
So just hire a lawyer and go to court for the order. rules are rules.
How can they say her service is not being honored but that is what she wrote and signed? They are literally respecting her wishes......
You would thnk as a colonel she would know better. and fill out a new form if she changed her mind. They lectured us time and time again when i was on active duty about this issue.
There is a reason why the emergency data card needs to be updated regularly. We are told from day one that it must be kept accurate and up-to-date. The reason why it exists is to be the constant when it’s surrounded by change and turmoil. While I sympathize with the family and agree that she should be buried there, the last official thing that the military has with her wishes on it was the emergency data card. If it is not kept up, there’s really nothing that the army or the Air Force can do to change it short of court orders and legalities. That is the whole reason why that EDC exists.
The family is NOT respecting her wishes period.
This is a misleading story... the family and the news media are portraying that her service is in some way being denigrated despite her wishes... the military is about attention to detail... if the late Col Lunardi specified her wishes, they (her family) should not then state that she is being dishonored... that's not right and they know it! The Army's response in my opinion respects the Col's wishes even more so ... and while she may have voiced that she'd like ANC - it was not written and the form was not amended... the family has to respect that her final resting place will still be honorable - because her memory is what matters most.
Honoring her written desires is disrespecting her service? I don’t think so.
The Army is doing the right thing.
It sounds like he’s making it all about him. She wants California and that’s it
The army is right to honor the written wishes of this woman, until a court of law says otherwise.
That family just needs a good lawyer.
You're not very bright. The Army literally has her orders. No lawyer is changing anything.
@@Look_What_You_Did actually you're wrong. A court of law must decide what her wishes were when she died, not when she filled out that form. People change their minds about things and just because she wanted one thing many years ago doesn't mean it's cast in stone, and the court will recognise that.
How is she dishonored when she said she wanted to be cremated
The cremated part wasn’t the problem, in fact I think due to space all Arlington burials now require cremation. It’s that in her wishes she documented she wanted her ashes to be scattered.
Sad story but it sounds like the Army is being as accommodating as possible, it's unfortunate her records weren't up to date. I don't get the impression the Army thinks "she wasn't that important" sounds like they are honoring her wishes per her last update.They should take the judge's advice and get a lawyer so they can fully understand what's going on. R.I.P to the hero .
You clowns and that word...
@@Look_What_You_Did What word
Sorry for their loss but it isn’t just a technicality, it’s a legally binding document the late Colonel signed. Her husband is suffering for sure but seems a bit difficult. He needs to see a therapist I think.
Yes, it is not just a form, but a legal document reflecting her wishes. So, they just have to work the process to get it changed. It is neither disrespectful nor an insult to her memory or service.
Sounds like she should have updated her DD93 we only do it every 6 months
Wouldn’t a Colonel know what forms need to be completed given her years of service, etc…? I don’t think anyone is trying to disrespect her, I think they’re trying to respect what she chose and legally listed.
So get a lawyer to draft the order and get over the drama. The Army is doing what they have on record as her wishes. If that had changed, get a judge to order different and get over the drama.
LMAO.... You've never served. Nothing is changing the order.
The written wishes of the member are what they have to go by. The mother is the one as the next of living kin who can appeal as a blood relative.
The Army explained to the family what steps to take to resolve the situation. Get an attorney and go to court. What's the problem? Do they not want to pay for an attorney?
As a Veteran, I hate they are going through this...but the Army is not doing anything wrong.
I feel bad for family, but I can't find any "blame" on the military. Sad set of circumstances.
That's why written documents are importan & need to changed if your wishes change. She put down what she wanted @ the time. Sad, but once you pass all they have is your written document! Anybody & their brother can say what ever they want once she passed.
This document gets updated yearly, its mandatory, everyone including the Joint Chiefs of Staff nobody gets by without signing off on it, because its all tied to death benefits
Let this be a lesson to everyone. What you write down has more weight legally than what you say.
Sounds like she changed her mind at the last minute, but it was too late. Its not the military's fault.
I feel for them, I really do. But the Colonel specified HERSELF on the DD Form 93 what she wanted done. The Army will not budge on that. I filled one out myself. Mine specifies A specific place to. They will not budge on that. They are honoring her wishes. A services member's final wishes should be honored. Regardless of what anyone else feels or thanks about it.
It sucks that the family would have more rights if she was retired. The fact she died on active duty is the kicker. Sounds like the Army/Air Force is in the right here, sadly.
My heart aches for this family. I imagine it is almost impossible to take on any more right now but maybe consider going through the process they suggested with a lawyer. So sorry that this has added to your grief. She sounds like a beautiful woman that has given you lots of reasons to be proud. I personally am thankful for all she did for our country. Wish I had met her so I could say that in person.
With due respect to the Colonel,the Army is technically correct and cannot go beyond those last written instructions. But it is not to insult the Colonel's memory or her family.A good lawyer can use the same system and get the courts to "order" the Army to accommodate the Arlington request.
The Army is right because her wishes are very particular about being scattered in California rather than buried. It took alot of deliberate steps showing that is what she wanted
It's possible someone else wants her buried in Arlington. Anyone whose dealt with estates knows how tricky and mean they can become.
So the moral of the story is. We all need to check are wills and insurance papers to see if it reflects are needs of today.
Fly, Fight, Win. I hope she gets her wish to be in Arlington. Go Air Force. Thank you for your service. RIP 🇺🇸
This happens all the time. They always say to update your vRED.
I’ve heard many stories of ex-wives getting the life insurance money.
The family is out of luck.
He lost me when he said there’s no better place than home with him.
Theres no better place then here with me 😂......spoken like a true psychopath
I was wondering if I was the only one who thought that. I can understand grief, but that comment from him was out of line.
There are other national cemeteries to be buried at. Arlington is not the only choice. My father is buried at the National Cemetery in Beaufort, South Carolina, and it is a wonderful cemetery. Is there a National Cemetery anywhere near where the family lives? In many ways, that would be great because the family would live close enough to that cemetery to be able to go visit her grave anytime they want.
It's not about the cemetery They wont do ANYTHING But Do What Are Documented Wishes Are. It's About DOING WHAT THE ARMY TELLS YOU TO DO IN ORDER TO CHANGE IT - FOLLOW ORDERS! Thats What SHE Would Do.
Considering Dumfries, Virginia is only 30 miles from Arlington National Cemetery I would have to say there are none closer.
If she may she RIP wrote and documented her wishes Honor Them.
I don’t believe she changed her mind. The family cooked this up, it’s what THEY want. No controversy here.
Heaven is much better
Amen. I don't mean to judge but her husband's comment about best place she can be is w/ him. He obviously doesn't know the Lord. Sad.
Except there is no such thing.
She is in a better place now.
God Bless
Sounds like sour grapes on behalf of the family. Tara should have updated her DD Form 98 during her planning. The Army is correct on this one.
This is no where near as bad as the headline had me expecting.
For once, I feel the military is doing the right thing. They have to go by the 93 until a court orders otherwise. This isn’t something they can just turn a blind eye to.
Lack of preperation on your part doesn’t not constitute an emergency on the Army’s part.
Sad, smh.
The army does what it wants, when it wants to.....
With out the form she does qualify to be intern at Arlington war time service died still on active duty or a retired Service member Arlington has a list criteria be buried there she meets most of them and it only take one on the list and once other half is entitled to be buried there also One good example is Lee Marvin the actor he was a World War II, marine veteran Purple Heart recipient, and 100% disabled veteran from his wounds received in battle that qualified him to be interned at Arlington
It's like a episode of MASH.
Respectfully. She can not be burred at Arlington. Even she would accept that... because you don't make Colonel without the bureaucracy. They are literally following her order. The family will have to get over it too.
Anton Hilberath first sergeant in the German Army POW buried at Arlington National Cemetery +60 foreign nationals. Go Figure.
If this service member had retired prior to her passing then only the Living Will would be the applicable document for this situation as DD93’s are strictly for Active Duty purposes. I found out after retirement that the DD93 (Also known as virtual Record of Emergency Data/vRED) over rules any Living Will if a service member dies while on active duty. Sad situation but is something that is deleted by the members and treated like junk mail (I’m guilty of this as well) whenever the Judge Advocate/Legal/JAG office sends out this specific topic at least once yearly because this scenario still occurs in different yet similar ways as to this Colonel and her family. The reporter is correct with the process to get a court order to grant survivors authority on overriding what the DD93 says. DD93’s are required to be updated/verified at least yearly, prior to departure for a new deployment or whenever a life event changes like birth, marriage, un-marriage, etc. My guess is this member was unable to remember this admin action while dealing with all the medical issues until her passing. My heart goes out to the family and hopefully the court action gets expedited so they can move forward with their lives.
this sucks but, its all in the paper work.....As bad as that sounds Im shocked the wait time hasnt been mentioned. Some many different factors go into that alone...from weeks to months The Inspector General report in 2019 on wait times were crazy but its a good read!!!
If the Husband and Mother had dedicated as much time to getting a lawyer as the Army suggested as they have to seeking media coverage of this nonevent, COL Lunardi’s ashes would now be secure in a niche at Arlington. Many, many families have legitimate claims against the military for various reasons but this Husband and Mother are not included. Theirs is a simple solution which they reject in favor of seeking the limelight by conjuring sympathy that is unwarranted. Thankfully the comments to this post are nearly 100% in accord with this observation.
Further, this media TV station is complicit in helping these family members gain recognition where none is deserved. Their reporter should have asked: “Why haven’t you engaged an attorney and procured the court order that the Army has admitted will secure what you want?”
Option 2...the family could scatter her ashes at Arlington. True, I'm sure that there are rules and regulations against.
She was a military Colonel., a career military officer and not a basic Private or Airman. She made a choice. Using this platform to argue one side isn't being respectful to either the decedent or to the Army. Had she NOT given her intentions, her status would have permitted her burial in the Columbarium. Without getting into a debate too, because of limited space, above ground burials with military markers is restricted to Honorably Discharged or Active Duty personnel regardless of rank who were awarded the Medal of Honor, Services Distinguished Services Crosses, the Silver Star or the Purple Heart. Which I beleive none of which were award to this service member either.
Denied burial??? Looks like the Army is following her request. No story here, they always go by the official form
Unfortunately, they're running out of room at Arlington National Cemetery. Wearing the uniform for however long, does not get you in anymore.
C'mon with the pettiness
Rank doesn't mean crap when it comes to Arlington due to the over crowding in Arlington not all veterans can be interred at Arlington. Certain criteria must be met, such as being awarded the Purple Heart or at a minimum of the Silver Star. Due to the diminishing plots available The criteria has recently been altered and the requirements for interment have been narrowed, so rank is not a criteria anymore!!!
You are correct as to a burial plot but it is much easier to get a niche for cremated ashes, and this Colonel (as shown in video) made clear her desire to be cremated.
The husband is making this all about himself. And to claim that the Air Force is saying she was "unimportant" is ridiculous. The Colonel signed an official document about her burial wishes. The Air Force is simply complying with those wishes. If her wishes could be changed after her death without any signed documentation from her, what's the point of the first document? The family is claiming she changed her mind, but how does the Air Force know that's true? They don't. Therefore, they have to go based on her original signed document.
Here is a bit of friendly advice for the red tape they should reach out to the Vice President. The VP can technically overrule the decision on the DD Form 93 as her wishes did change to be buried at Arlington Cemetery.
Interesting 🤔 sounds like something is missing 🤔
nothing is missing, U iz the dum
You smell like a trumptard... not real big on facts...
For those who are not aware, Arlington has very strict rules and regulations. Not all veterans ( regardless of rank of years service qualify for burial )
Joe Lewis family went through the same situation. Their request was finally granted by no other than the President!
I believe the reason for Arlington restrictions is “space”.
There’s not enough space available for the amount of veterans of all ranks or years of service wishing to be buried there.
Yes, but it is considerably easier to get a niche for cremated ashes, and this would cover COL Lunardi since she insisted on cremation.
They need to reach out to the White House
Did you miss the part where it was HER wishes to not be buried in Arlington? The military is actually honoring her wishes.
@@savagedabs8536 she changed her mind
@brettwescott2793 That's what her family says, but the official documents say otherwise.
Arlington has limited space not everyone can be buried there.
What are the rules to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery?
Persons eligible are members of the Armed Forces who die on active duty; veterans who are retired and receiv- ing retired pay, or would be eligible for retired pay but for their age, or are eligible for retirement but remain in an active reserve status; certain former members of the Armed Forces who were sep- arated
Burial plots are in short supply and require awards such as a silver star, etc., to qualify. But, cremation niches are easier to get.
If she was LGBQTLMNOP they had a damn press conference for it
There it is... The disrespectful, never served, entitled, ignorance.
Horrible she deserves to be honored
by following her own documented order.....
The Colonel's last wishes should honored, stupid army red tape.
That's you get if you have black defence secretary
27 years? Um…. And the issue is paperwork she probably filled out when she first joined, and had no family?
My forms said I wanted my brother to spread my ashes on the White House rose garden during a full moon.
So apparently it’s a go, they would have made it happen.
except we update them annually while on active duty, even officers, stop commenting on things you do not fully understand
“We”?
So your personal experience is of importance, while my own TIS is irrelevant?
You sound like you were in the army, which is why your so ignorant.
Sad that you have to press your stupidity into others. Not everyone that joins is able to stay in for twenty years. Try being a actual grunt carrying a hundred pounds of gear for more than eight years. If you got no respect for COMBAT veterans still walking, you certainly got zero respect for those that have passed.
Go kick rocks down the middle of a busy road.
Another clown that has never served running their mouth...
Never served? You talking to the man in the mirror, because I’m still serving?
Good luck out there shitbird
the Army needs to make an exception here no fuss no money wasted in court get biden to sign it or the sec defense and be finished this is stupid, miss me with this BS
Why should they make an exception. She stated in writing what she wanted and it didn't mention being interned at Arlington National Cemetery. As a veteran, I still remember my Basic training. Always follow the last order given. In her case it was to be scattered over Big Sur.
The Army can't be certain that an alleged conversation was her final wish. So many people lie about this stuff. You wouldn't believe how many people use the dead to propagate their social standing.
Arlington is for those that die in combat not cancer. National
Cemeteries are for those who serve
Vax
The husband is a gaslighting jerkoff.
Update your vRED!
Not a good look for the military!