How Much Does A Setup Gain You In Assetto Corsa Competizione?
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Would love to see what’s achievable with the minor tweaks you recommended before moving to the super secret setup.
yeah, would make way more sense for the video
@@BASHERSKINZ yeah exactly. If he adjusted tyre pressures, brake pads, it would have been way better
That’s was my first thought.
Exactly. Minor tweaks from brake pads, tire pressures and brake ducts. You can't really race without those things.
The comparsion would have been better if both setups used at least optimum tyre pressures. Since this is one of the key factors in ACC a lot of the delta should come from this only, not the setup itself. But interesting video idea, maybe a follow up?
1:05 "I can't just jump in and do a lap, I need a warm up" while the dude is going 2.5 seconds faster than my PB lmao.
My thoughts exactly lol
There is a reason why he they are pros 😂
Your MoTeC worksheet x axis is set to time instead of distance, that's why it looks like you're much slower on entry and quicker on exit on the faster lap.
Thanks for this, I knew something was up but didn't know what, will make sure I do this moving forward!
@@Jaaames In case you don´t know how to change this, just press F9 key and it will change. :D
"I need a bit of warmup" - has 3 identical laps on the board.
On all sim racing games, I push myself to the limit without a setup and once I feel I've reached the limit, I then apply a setup and push from there. On WRC that's gotten me from ~60th on leaderboards to the World Record or top 5 several times.
On ACC, it really just made the car more bearable and easier to drive which made me faster.
That’s exactly the right thing to do mate! Setups only “help” when you already know the track and the car’s behaviour.
I hate to disagree, but sometimes it is pointless running on the default setup since its quite limited on what you can achieve with it, as you will need a meta setup to be competitive, and most of the time the car will drive completily different with said setup, so you shouldnt get used to the default.
Would’ve been good to see the difference in lap time once you’d sorted the pressures and made those subtle changes, which is stuff most people will know how to do. Naturally the lap time will suffer a lot with those awful preset pressures
That’s EXACTLY why I bought some pro setups. Made a HUGE difference. I barely have enough time during the week to race, much less spend hours working on setups.
Where have you bought your setups?
@@alexkupfer9171 Did you end up finding a place to buy them? am curious.
@@tbear I assume there are a lot of online shops. I only know the german "rennwelten" online shop for ACC setups (they also have a youtube channel). But i haven't bought a setup so far.
@@alexkupfer9171 AH okay. Thx will check them out.
James: I'll load up my custom setup>
Me: Less go. That's why I'm here. hehe
James: which I can't show you
Me: *_sadnoises_
I just started getting back into ACC on console so I'm doing my best to learn as much as I can, so this video couldn't have come at a better time. Thanks James 👍
Never seen another person who plays on console. ACC servers on console are deeaaaddd
We exist apparently 😂
Y’all know if they’re gonna add fov to console?
Hell yeah , represent
@@Nox_Desiree console is very popular and busy... There are thousands people coming to acc all the time.. Once next gen pc level update hits... Game changer.. Quite litterally
Love that you showed the telemetry as well! It's way easier to really understand what the setup changes do for your laptime without driving yourself. Imo it's the best way to explain setups in videos. Good stuff.
"I'm okay at driving" not like he is world's fastest gamer or anything 😂
Hey James. I love this video especially after the update. It would’ve been really nice to see that setup lol. These types of videos are very helpful, however a lot of people don’t know how to read Motec & understand what needs to be done to get the max performance out of a setup. Either way the more information like this you share the better off we will be. Thanks mate! Cheers
May i suggest for future two things?
1) compare not vs 100% stock setup, but at very least with tire pressures done on it too, as even those, that drive stock setups, still always do tire pressure un fuel amount adjustments. ACC happens to be sim, where tire pressures being in optimal window matters a lot, and that single change may contribute half if not more speed delta and ease of handling of "100% stock" vs that of custom one
2) imho worth fine tuning setups in own multiplayer server, not in hotlap mode. Many reported seeing different physics/BOP/grip level/lap times in hotlap mode, and that their setups created there sometimes didn't work well or had handling artifacts when used in actual multiplayer qualy/race
Thanks James! New to sim racing and been following your videos! See my lap times and consistency improve every day I practice. I make sure I throw in some break time when I start doing worse like you suggested. Helps with my practice a lot!
Hi James, good vid. Definitely much clearer to show the custom setup advantage if you did a speed vs distance trace rather than speed vs time. Cheers and all the best.
I know there’s hundreds of videos on this already but it’d be good to see how someone like me, who is around 3 seconds off your pace, can possibly improve and find more lap time. I try practicing a bit but I find I can’t improve if I don’t know where I’m going wrong.
Maybe a video idea for you?
Look at the motec, input is different otherwise you wouldn't lose that much time.
If you want, you can start by comparing the replay (your replay and what James showed with his first attempt)
You'll notice that you'll either be going too deep or too early on the brakes, or just taking different lines, too late on throttle (compared to him) and so on and so forth.
3 seconds per lap is 2 or 3 tenths per corner (on average) depending on the track, so you need to be looking really well at all the differences
You can have all the talent in the world, but if you don't do the work... Like much of life, we get out what we put in, now lets see those damper settings!
I would like to handle all that informations so well. I kinda made my car work for my style everytime. I am not a complete noob, I know very well the basics and I kinda know how to set anti - roll bars, wings etc. And how they affect the behaviour of the car. But when it comes to dampers, I just can't do nothing else than click randomly, because I can't handle motec information like every pro does.
Look at Aris.Drives videos. He explains the damper setup basics very well
Excellent content! Usually a customized setup is one second faster than the agressive Setup. We just need to understand the behavior of the car according to our driving style and make the correct adjustments.
Tank you for your professionalism and passion!
what does a setup gain you?
Nothing if you're into a wall.
Great vid. Made realise how crap I am. 1.57 on default 🤯. I need to do some learning
Doing setups is the literal nightmare for me. I completely do not understand how to setup the car to make it faster or better.
almost a good video then.. you loaded a custom setup we cant see... GG
Sadly most of us we don’t have a team to find the perfect setup 💪🏼
Hey James just an idea for you maybe do some f1 2021 vids and also are you thinking of trying to get back into the f1 esports series I would love to see you back in it again ik it finished like two days ago but I think you will have better luck this time
Thank you for making this video. I just got into League racing in ACC. I've been playing with a wheel for about a year. I won silver league for my first League on pc in actrollvision. Next season I start in gold. anyway to the point... I didn't even know you could do this with motec. I wish you could point us a little bit more in the right direction of setup but I understand why you're not showing your setup. I've been softening up the suspension a bunch and just trying to keep Tire temps in check. I have a G29 and the force feedback has been cutting out half way through my races. so I just ordered the new DD Pro and it'll be here in a couple days. I really wanted to get the load cell but it's not available. Im hoping that I can find another one and modify it. You're literally 2 seconds faster than me and I am super frustrated right now with the g29... I hope that the clarity of the direct-drive helps. I've done racing my whole life. I started at 16 volunteering at tracks and you're completely right.... without the setup you're nothing. you can have all the talent in the world but without the right side up and equipment.
Great video, but would have been better if both setups had optimum pressures.
Now it is a bit of an unfair comparison.
What’s the tyre pressure range in v1.8? I’d heard that they’d changed more towards 27.0psi rather than the usual window of 27.5-27.8 but from your video it appears they’ve stayed the same?
Great video, love the idea of it!
However, don't you think that most of the time gained comes from the tyre pressure instead of the rest of the setup?
Can you do a more detailed video of damper setup? Its something we all get stuck on in the end.
Not sure if its just me but I can no longer do a burnout at the beginning of a race (little tyre warm up). feels almost like some sort of traction control stopping it even when all tc is off. I drive the Audi and always used to do this. anyone else noticed this? also are the setups still good for you? mine dont seem to work so good now.
Always 100% on the brakes aren’t realistic because IRL onboard I always see like 70-80% brake force and not 100%. Even after update ACC is still 100%…
Most people use agreasive setup but do offcourse change the tyre pressure. I am curious how much of the time difference is still there is you do agressive setup plus tyre temps vs full costum setup.
Very helpful, thank you James ❤
One question I have is: If I want to have the tires on 27.5(psi hot) for example, how much do I need to increse the PSI in the pits. It usually comes with 25.(something)
General rule of thumb is per degree C hotter or colder adjust the pressures by 0.1 psi.
What I do is save all my setups with the temperature at that time on track in the name so it is easy to adjust
Thanks James for your time and efforts. Can you provide us a copy of your Motec Workbook? Thank you kindly
Are you racing with socks or shoes? very curious! if you're using shoes, which ones?
Hello James. Could you please point me to the place where I can download the workbook you are using in Motec? TIA
he has a video called How to setup Motec or something from a few months ago which has the link to his workbook.
@@DanielJoseph97thank you man. I remember that video but I didn't remember he gave the link
Hello mate, new on PC, getting used to it. I’m also working with the Motec and running the Mclaren, with the REN workspace, but anyway is it possible that your share the properties of your damper_histogram to have that kind of curves and graphs ? ´Cause it doesn’t look that way in the REN and even if we try to figure it out I think that having your properties could be helpfull. Thanks in advance for your answer and as always it was a very good video !
James please bring back the lap guide's
Have your motec in distance not time on the x axis…
how can you get the variance graph for ACC in Motec?
Are there any websites with setups to help console users?
the best video. Thanks
Can you compare paid setups (like CDA) to in game setups?
CDA setups for the Mclaren are quite good as long as you reduce the brake balance cause they ship at 58%, I tend to like between 52 and 53
MOAR setups
Oh oh, hes back, ello
why isnt a good idea to change every car to the same steering wheel ratio(on car setup)? i think, muscle memory works better if you do the same thing all the time, but i see every track and car gives you a different default in this part ot the setup
Because some tracks you need more down force like Zandvoort, some tracks you need almost nothing like Monza. Some tracks are super flat and car bump isn't as much as an issue, and some tracks you got to soften the suspension way more or you would be flying towards a way on the first curb you hit. I think It's fun tweaking the setups, and specially when you start seeing results. Of course there is driving style as well. I am a noob when it comes to it still, but I was able to get almost 3 seconds faster at Zadrvoort with a setup I came up with, compared to the aggressive in which I was failing miserably.
Agora que vi o nome. Brasileiro? Tamo Junto!
If you have your wheel rotation at default settings the game will adjuat it automaticly
different cars behave differently with same steering angle, that's why they have different ratios
Regarding tire pressures - isn't 27.5 - 27.7 optimal for GT3 cars?
Yup dry weather is 27.5 for gt3, gt4, cup and super trofeo. 30.0 for wet on all class too
27.64 is optimal for gt3's
If your comparing setups why not show them both with at optimum tyre pressures? Not sure what anyone can take from this.
Where can i get this workspace for MoTeC, anyone knows?
where can I get the MoTec i2 Pro?
I just started sim racing with a ps5 controller on PC. I have been playing for less than 3 weeks and practicing on Monza with the aggressive setup. Somehow, I cannot go under 1:50 Can somebody help me lowering my time? I see everyone is doing between 1:45 and 1:47. Any advice would be very appreciated 😁
I'll tell you right now, 1:50 with a controller is decent. On most public servers, 1:48.5 is competitive. Before the 1.8 patch, I could do 1:47.6X if I paid attention. With this new patch, I'm easily 0.5secs slower, and I've been sim-racing for YEARS. And don't have much time to practice anymore. Anyone under 1:47 with this new patch is bordering on alien!
@@arobyte are you playing with a controller or wheel? I am planning on setting up a sim rig but I am afraid not being competitive enough for it to be worth the investment. Could having a rig improve my performance? Thanks for your reply
@@RobertoOrtis A wheel is essential to having fun and being consistent in any racing sim. A rig is even better. I'm using a logitech G920 and a Next level racing F-GT lite seat. I'm also in VR. Just changed my wheel after over 10 years. Used to have the Logitech G25. New wheel hasn't make me faster... guess not just used to it yet.
@@arobyte awesome that you are in VR, I have not experienced it yet, but I would love to. I am still undecided on triple screen or VR, both are very expensive. Congrats on your new wheel!
YES!
Sadly you didnt show any of the settings you made in the custom setup. So, no learning effect from this video.
who is "we"? what is this simracing/streamer trend of referring to "we" for everything when it's just you?
I think this is purely mental. I changed all parameters on a random way, and it made CERO difference, nada. Try yourself and you'll see.
4:55 so why are you making this video?
Like 3-4 seconds.
Can you send me your setup for that car it’s the car I use and need help setting it up
Not going to show us your setup..ok
Your pro set up vs standard aggressive was not legit and rather pointless. Total waste of of time for both the viewer and yourself. If you are going to make such videos at least have a decent comparison and use the same tyre pressures. This is not the 1st video you have me questioning your methods and advice.