@@OWNORDISOWN No one cares when ISIS invaded my country and slayed children and women and executed my brother back in 2014,if no one cares about us why should i need to care about them? Have a nice day sir 😊
@@megkry8559 thanks! I also have the GE77HX, like it alot. Has better speakers , webcam seems to be only 720p and the mic is still a bit poor. Might be their noise cancelation. I also have the Legion 7i with both the 12800hx and 12900HX and they both run hot in CPU only work as its PL1 is 125W. Gaming its fine though.
Special thanks to Veikko (aka Burrito King) for the intro and outro! Reach out to him on our discord server if you want him to do any work for you. He is an awesome programmer too. Make sure to sign up for the game tournament competition@ownordisown.com
No G-Sync is why I ultimately gave up on MSI for now. The tech is already built into the screen as it's VRR capable, MSI just don't want to pay the license fee to enable it in the Nvidia driver. It's not just about tearing to me, it's very important for accurate emulation of consoles so it's mandatory for me. I thought I could get away with adaptive sync but it only works with direct x 11+ and not always unless in full screen. G-Sync just works. What Nvidia have done for laptops is basically proprietary software that controls the VRR capable display.. it is not like stand alone monitor g-sync with a module.. but it works and all prestige laptops should have it. Another miss is no windows hello on this device, that's crazy. Anyway hopefully next year we'll get 17" OLED with G-Sync.. Will keep my eyes peeled!
hi Stephen! That's a nice intro right there hahaha I enjoyed it so much!. Nice device, a bit bulk looking, I think that nowadays i prefer the clean style of the Lenovo devices. The mic of that laptop is horrible for the price being paid hahaha The cooling system looks great and it seems that it makes a great job cooling the laptop, nice temps in all modes, I don't really think that's necessary to have all that fan noise for a couple of extra fps haahha Nice job covering all angles of the device as always! great video.
@@OWNORDISOWN yeah that's the sad part. I really don't understand why the views are so low. Maybe the algorithm is not working in your favor these days
@@eliefares2755 yes, I don't think youtube is notifying many people. I get that too. I don't get notifications from people I am subbed to and have the bell checked. It ends up being a downward spiral for which you have little control.
@@OWNORDISOWN Yeah youtube does not notify me for every channel i'm subbed to too. I know it might be demotivating, I also read your post before about you possibly quitting youtube if the views stay this low. Know that no matter what you decide to do, we'll always support you! You already did an amazing job of creating fun/beneficial content.
@@eliefares2755 thanks Elie 😊 . I will be making a decision within the next 4 weeks I think. Glad you stuck by me through it all, it's been one hell of a ride!
Yes, here is their announcement bringing glasses-free, stereoscopic 3D to the world of gaming: This powerful gaming laptop enables glasses-free, stereoscopic 3D gaming experiences. With the SpatialLabs TrueGame application, gamers can effortlessly play supported games in a 3D mode, where details of the scene are smoothly brought to life - in real-time and without the need for special glasses. The experience is created through the combination of an eye-tracking solution, a stereoscopic 3D display and real-time rendering technologies. The 15.6-inch 4K UHD 2D display features a liquid crystal lenticular lens optically bonded on top of it to form an innovative module that can be switched back and forth between 2D and stereoscopic 3D views. More than 50 current modern and classic titles are available and supported. To power these exciting real-time 3D experiences, the PH315-55s-90K9 laptop features a 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900H processor, an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, 32GB of memory and a 2TB SSD for USD $3,499.99. It will be available from MicroCenter in October
The hdr washed out issue is a nvidia driver issue that hasn't been fixed. you must manually install 512.15 (newer drivers are broken) by first doing ddu uninstall. when you do the ddu you must checkmark advanced phsx as well. then when installing the driver ensure clean install is checked. Once i did all this i have had 0 issues with hdr having that washed out look.
What an incredible 15.6 inch laptop. I remember being blown away by the HP omen 15t with the 9880h, this is some next level stuff though. That cooling looks incredible! I hope before too long we see 17 inch OLED high refresh panels become the norm, they seem gorgeous but I like a 17 inch screen personally. Great video as always! Loved the raiders intro and outro, very cool and creative. Hope to see your multiplayer event gain some traction!
Thanks Lee! I still have that Omen 15T actually 😀. It still games ok, but gets super hot, even after a repaste. I'm amazed how well this thermal pad performs on the GE67HX. I bought the 17" GE77HX recently so that review will be up soon enough. That is a great machine too. Glad you like the intro and outro. My buddy Veikko (aka Burrito King) did it for me! Have a good day!
The only thing that's concerning me about this laptop is - how do you clean it? I mean msi is notorious for soldering fans to the other components of the cooling system, meaning you'll have to remove that part, so how would that liquid metal pad hold? So far it makes no sense on how you're supposed to service that laptop.
Looks very straight forward to me Sergei. Once all the screws are removed just lift up the heat pipes and 4 heatsinks at the same time and it will all come up in one piece. At room temperature I would expect the thermal pad to be in a solid state, correct?
@@OWNORDISOWN yes, but isn't it supposed to be like a pool there? won't removing it compromise the integrity? I have so many questions lol. I really wanna see someone disassemble the laptop.
Hi from Amsterdam again👾, thanx for mentioning the invisible taskbar name haha. Please tell me what was the difference between Bios 104 and 107. I am likely to try, but no matter what I do, I am not able to flash to lower Bios (I have all 67HX bioses, if anybody needs, please see c69k in MSI forum, and contact me there👀). Awesome review !!!
Thanks for providing the information, Dusan :) The CPU score in Timespy with BIOS 107 12809 vs 13413 with BIOS 104. Was strange. In the BIOS you should be able to enable flash back to earlier BIOS. You can on the GE77HX anyway.
@@OWNORDISOWN Thank you for super info. I finally Flashed Bios 104, but only tried Cinebench 23 with same results as with 107. Mistake I made as per post above (unable to downgrade Bios), was that after unzipping, I copied the whole Bios folder onto USB. The Bios file must not be in any folder, only in root, otherwise it throws error unsupported format lol Next Monday is the last day I can return this laptop, which I enjoy more and more. If I had to buy this level of powerful desktop + OLED 240Hz(?) monitor, it would cost me about same as the laptop = 2450EUR (considering 1200EUR only for a proper OLED monitor). Would you wait for the next gen. ? Any input is greatly appreciated as I consider you a proper reviewer.
I agree! Its amazing how far we have come in just a few years. I remember about 5 or 6 years ago I was at about 30 minutes for my handbrake test and now its taking 10 minutes.
Thanks, glad you liked the video. I did see the Zephyrus duo 16 in the store, although it wasn't powered on. It is a very nice looking machine. Nicer than the GE67HX for sure. From what I understand the screen is gorgeous, Notebookcheck measured 459 nits, but still plenty bright. Colour accuracy is good too. Outdoor viewing not so good , the OLED has much better contrast. Speakers are much much better. I think for use in normal indoor lighting it's a great panel, not reflective like the OLED which may be a concern for some.
Hi! What's the difference in P3 mode and sRGB mode? I see lower sRGB in sRGB mode. So better to use p3 for high coverage of sRGB? Just lost in this. I want this laptop for photo editing.
@@OWNORDISOWNis aSrgb means Adobe rgb? So I need to change that for lightroom workspace too? And to save jpegs as Adobe rgb? Means if I'll upload this photo to Facebook colors will be "muted" because web browsers standard is srgb?
@@arseniyshapurov no, sRGB stands for standard RGB . This might help you expertphotography.com/srgb-vs-adobe-rgb/#:~:text=Some%20monitors%20display%20a%20wider,which%20color%20spaces%20they%20require.
Okay, isn't thermals/performance best in the market when it comes to Msi GE series, but at what cost i dont know but yes MSI do have built issues, esp the hinges. And are those legion series have good built quality if you have used one?
I've been busy at work and personal life...I did film a video but new info came out so I need to start that one again so am working on the script. I've also done all the testing on the i9 12800hx and 12900hx Legion 7 , so I will start on that soon.
I had this laptop for a couple weeks. Screen is amazing but the build is disappointing. The hinges look like they will not hold up over time. Ended up returning it and getting the duo 16.
I just watched the review on Jared's Tech for this laptop and he says that there is g-sync with Optimist off and adaptive sync with Optimus on????.. Can u clarify this, because u said theres no gsync or adaptive sync
That is incorrect. It does not have Gsync. As for Freesync, that would be applicable if it had the Radeon settings but it does not. It does not have advanced optimus. My friend has the laptop too and concurs with me. That being said neither my friend or myself see any tearing. Possibly because of the 240Hz and OLED combination.
@indo Jarrod pinned a comment saying that he made a mistake about Gsync. Probably it is pinned in his review video. As for adaptive sync you normally see the range in the Radeon control panel. I don't have the GE67HX anymore, I do have the GE77HX and there is no mention of the variable refresh rate range anywhere. Not in Nvidia control panel, system information, create a custom resolution, or windows display settings. Perhaps you can ask how they found that range and I'll ask my buddy to look at his system.
You channel stands out among all the rest. Best tech reviewer I’ve ever seen! Thanks for all the interesting tadbits about the laptop I would of never gotten on any other review. Somehow your review doesn’t seam bloated with information yet it’s concise. Very well done sir!
I don't care about Ukraine
Well I do
@@OWNORDISOWN
No one cares when ISIS invaded my country and slayed children and women and executed my brother back in 2014,if no one cares about us why should i need to care about them?
Have a nice day sir 😊
So do I! I hope you get the help you need 🇺🇦
@@OWNORDISOWN btw amazing review need a upgrade from my Alienware r4 might check this out!
@@megkry8559 thanks! I also have the GE77HX, like it alot. Has better speakers , webcam seems to be only 720p and the mic is still a bit poor. Might be their noise cancelation. I also have the Legion 7i with both the 12800hx and 12900HX and they both run hot in CPU only work as its PL1 is 125W. Gaming its fine though.
Special thanks to Veikko (aka Burrito King) for the intro and outro! Reach out to him on our discord server if you want him to do any work for you. He is an awesome programmer too. Make sure to sign up for the game tournament competition@ownordisown.com
@@mohalahs_ Thanks Mohamed!
No G-Sync is why I ultimately gave up on MSI for now.
The tech is already built into the screen as it's VRR capable, MSI just don't want to pay the license fee to enable it in the Nvidia driver.
It's not just about tearing to me, it's very important for accurate emulation of consoles so it's mandatory for me. I thought I could get away with adaptive sync but it only works with direct x 11+ and not always unless in full screen. G-Sync just works. What Nvidia have done for laptops is basically proprietary software that controls the VRR capable display.. it is not like stand alone monitor g-sync with a module.. but it works and all prestige laptops should have it. Another miss is no windows hello on this device, that's crazy.
Anyway hopefully next year we'll get 17" OLED with G-Sync.. Will keep my eyes peeled!
Totally agree Teddy! For the price it should have Gsync and a fingerprint reader. I ended up buying a USB fingerprint reader for my GE77HX
LOL superb intro :D
love it
Thanks mate! Good to see you again :)
@@OWNORDISOWN Hello :) been following all the time
hi Stephen!
That's a nice intro right there hahaha I enjoyed it so much!.
Nice device, a bit bulk looking, I think that nowadays i prefer the clean style of the Lenovo devices.
The mic of that laptop is horrible for the price being paid hahaha
The cooling system looks great and it seems that it makes a great job cooling the laptop, nice temps in all modes, I don't really think that's necessary to have all that fan noise for a couple of extra fps haahha
Nice job covering all angles of the device as always! great video.
Thanks Andres! I still have your Legion 5 here :)
Such a detailed and interesting review. Keep killing it as always!
Thanks Elie! Lost 8 subs and hardly any views though. Will see how my next few videos go...
@@OWNORDISOWN yeah that's the sad part. I really don't understand why the views are so low. Maybe the algorithm is not working in your favor these days
@@eliefares2755 yes, I don't think youtube is notifying many people. I get that too. I don't get notifications from people I am subbed to and have the bell checked. It ends up being a downward spiral for which you have little control.
@@OWNORDISOWN Yeah youtube does not notify me for every channel i'm subbed to too. I know it might be demotivating, I also read your post before about you possibly quitting youtube if the views stay this low. Know that no matter what you decide to do, we'll always support you! You already did an amazing job of creating fun/beneficial content.
@@eliefares2755 thanks Elie 😊 . I will be making a decision within the next 4 weeks I think. Glad you stuck by me through it all, it's been one hell of a ride!
Exciting to see OLED becoming more mainstream.
Totally agree! Just need a 17" one now ...
I hope Acer sends OWNorDisown the new spatial labs 3d gaming laptop as soon as it is released. It should be getting released soon.
Yes, here is their announcement
bringing glasses-free, stereoscopic 3D to the world of gaming: This powerful gaming laptop enables glasses-free, stereoscopic 3D gaming experiences. With the SpatialLabs TrueGame application, gamers can effortlessly play supported games in a 3D mode, where details of the scene are smoothly brought to life - in real-time and without the need for special glasses. The experience is created through the combination of an eye-tracking solution, a stereoscopic 3D display and real-time rendering technologies. The 15.6-inch 4K UHD 2D display features a liquid crystal lenticular lens optically bonded on top of it to form an innovative module that can be switched back and forth between 2D and stereoscopic 3D views. More than 50 current modern and classic titles are available and supported. To power these exciting real-time 3D experiences, the PH315-55s-90K9 laptop features a 12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900H processor, an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, 32GB of memory and a 2TB SSD for USD $3,499.99. It will be available from MicroCenter in October
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Будь ласка. Я молюся за ваш подальший успіх!
The hdr washed out issue is a nvidia driver issue that hasn't been fixed. you must manually install 512.15 (newer drivers are broken) by first doing ddu uninstall. when you do the ddu you must checkmark advanced phsx as well. then when installing the driver ensure clean install is checked.
Once i did all this i have had 0 issues with hdr having that washed out look.
Thanks for the tip Raul.
What an incredible 15.6 inch laptop. I remember being blown away by the HP omen 15t with the 9880h, this is some next level stuff though. That cooling looks incredible!
I hope before too long we see 17 inch OLED high refresh panels become the norm, they seem gorgeous but I like a 17 inch screen personally.
Great video as always! Loved the raiders intro and outro, very cool and creative. Hope to see your multiplayer event gain some traction!
Thanks Lee! I still have that Omen 15T actually 😀. It still games ok, but gets super hot, even after a repaste. I'm amazed how well this thermal pad performs on the GE67HX. I bought the 17" GE77HX recently so that review will be up soon enough. That is a great machine too.
Glad you like the intro and outro. My buddy Veikko (aka Burrito King) did it for me! Have a good day!
The cooling is exceptional. It's like an air conditioner the way it expels heat
@@kennysponto6568 definitely!
The only thing that's concerning me about this laptop is - how do you clean it? I mean msi is notorious for soldering fans to the other components of the cooling system, meaning you'll have to remove that part, so how would that liquid metal pad hold? So far it makes no sense on how you're supposed to service that laptop.
Looks very straight forward to me Sergei. Once all the screws are removed just lift up the heat pipes and 4 heatsinks at the same time and it will all come up in one piece. At room temperature I would expect the thermal pad to be in a solid state, correct?
@@OWNORDISOWN yes, but isn't it supposed to be like a pool there? won't removing it compromise the integrity? I have so many questions lol. I really wanna see someone disassemble the laptop.
@@TabalugaDragon I believe it is solid at room temperature
www.kgs-ind.com/products/thermal-pads/silicone-free/cgd/
15:38 not sure how 4 window split-screeen feature is usefull when windows can do that with the snap feature.
That's true. Thanks for mentioning it
I am awaiting my order of this exact laptop. It has always been a dream to have an MSI Raider.
I'm sure you will like it
Do you suggest the older version of 11800h 3080 rtx oled 4k MSİ GE66?
Sure, if it is priced OK. The 3080 is still a good GPU, as long as it is the version with 16GB of VRAM, especially for 4k gaming.
@@OWNORDISOWN its have 16 gb ram and 60 hz screen, I found it around 1.803, I think it is a litte bit overpriced compared to last year prices,
Hi from Amsterdam again👾, thanx for mentioning the invisible taskbar name haha. Please tell me what was the difference between Bios 104 and 107. I am likely to try, but no matter what I do, I am not able to flash to lower Bios (I have all 67HX bioses, if anybody needs, please see c69k in MSI forum, and contact me there👀). Awesome review !!!
Thanks for providing the information, Dusan :) The CPU score in Timespy with BIOS 107 12809 vs 13413 with BIOS 104. Was strange. In the BIOS you should be able to enable flash back to earlier BIOS. You can on the GE77HX anyway.
@@OWNORDISOWN Thank you for super info. I finally Flashed Bios 104, but only tried Cinebench 23 with same results as with 107. Mistake I made as per post above (unable to downgrade Bios), was that after unzipping, I copied the whole Bios folder onto USB. The Bios file must not be in any folder, only in root, otherwise it throws error unsupported format lol Next Monday is the last day I can return this laptop, which I enjoy more and more. If I had to buy this level of powerful desktop + OLED 240Hz(?) monitor, it would cost me about same as the laptop = 2450EUR (considering 1200EUR only for a proper OLED monitor). Would you wait for the next gen. ? Any input is greatly appreciated as I consider you a proper reviewer.
can u test with 128gb ram?
lol, that intro was GOLD.
Thanks! Yes, Veikko did it for me. He is very creative :)
i have the screen problem, what is DDU..?
DDU is display driver uninstaller. MSI should have details on what to do . Did you try rolling back the Intel driver?
hello sir please can you point me to where i can get replacement screen for the msi Ge67hx
I think your only option is to find a second hand unit that is being sold for parts only...
@@OWNORDISOWN i have tried that. the only one i saw there was no screen
What a monster.
I agree! Its amazing how far we have come in just a few years. I remember about 5 or 6 years ago I was at about 30 minutes for my handbrake test and now its taking 10 minutes.
Wow love the intro ! Very retro! Also wow what an amazing laptop, I’m a huge fan of OLED tech
Thanks Jonathan! My buddy Veikko did it for me. He is very creative. I love OLEDs too, I do wish they did a 17" one. Perhaps next year?
Can you please review the Asus strix g15 too
Thx a lot
Ótimo Stephen. *--*
Obrigado :)
In your opinion what display would you chose? This one or the 1000nits qhd from the ROG Duo 16? Nice video
Thanks, glad you liked the video. I did see the Zephyrus duo 16 in the store, although it wasn't powered on. It is a very nice looking machine. Nicer than the GE67HX for sure. From what I understand the screen is gorgeous, Notebookcheck measured 459 nits, but still plenty bright. Colour accuracy is good too. Outdoor viewing not so good , the OLED has much better contrast. Speakers are much much better. I think for use in normal indoor lighting it's a great panel, not reflective like the OLED which may be a concern for some.
Hi! What's the difference in P3 mode and sRGB mode? I see lower sRGB in sRGB mode. So better to use p3 for high coverage of sRGB? Just lost in this. I want this laptop for photo editing.
Yes, P3 and aRGB opens up a wider colour gamut. The colours definitely look richer and vibrant. I would use either aRGB or P3 mode.
@@OWNORDISOWNis aSrgb means Adobe rgb? So I need to change that for lightroom workspace too? And to save jpegs as Adobe rgb? Means if I'll upload this photo to Facebook colors will be "muted" because web browsers standard is srgb?
@@arseniyshapurov no, sRGB stands for standard RGB .
This might help you
expertphotography.com/srgb-vs-adobe-rgb/#:~:text=Some%20monitors%20display%20a%20wider,which%20color%20spaces%20they%20require.
@@OWNORDISOWN thank you for advices!
The thumbnail alone deserves a like. Great video!
Thanks!!
Героям слава! Thank you!
Nice lappy. Don't like MSI gaming laptops though. They feel cheap to me. The last MSI I loved was the GT80 Titan.
That GT80 Titan was a beast for sure!
which laptop brands doesn't look cheap apart from MSI?
@@kafkaesqued the Alienware X17 R2 definitely looks the best and feels extremely solid
Okay, isn't thermals/performance best in the market when it comes to Msi GE series, but at what cost i dont know but yes MSI do have built issues, esp the hinges. And are those legion series have good built quality if you have used one?
@@tomgjonaj9965 Myself fanboy of Alienware, but the luxury comes at a humungous cost though.
unbox legion 7 2022 amd 6700m plz
I will be doing the Legion 7i 12800hx vs 12900Hx
Excellent review! Thank you!!
Thanks!
First time seen usable silence mode in games.
Yes, I think that is a great solution for keeping noise to a minimum. Definitely playable.
why no vids in 1 month?
I've been busy at work and personal life...I did film a video but new info came out so I need to start that one again so am working on the script. I've also done all the testing on the i9 12800hx and 12900hx Legion 7 , so I will start on that soon.
@@OWNORDISOWN and onto the 13th gen and 7000 series amd.
@@mts982 yes indeed. I bought a 13900KF/4090 desktop so will do some videos on that. Test the 4090 on a Ryzen 1700x and a 10900K as well
@@OWNORDISOWN that 4090 is beast of a gpu. even 8k has decent fps.
I had this laptop for a couple weeks. Screen is amazing but the build is disappointing. The hinges look like they will not hold up over time. Ended up returning it and getting the duo 16.
That duo 16 does look amazing !
@@OWNORDISOWN hopefully you can get your hands on one. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
@@kmdkmd-jz8pv thanks. I can always get one from Hidevolution but let's see how views get on in the next 4 weeks..
@@OWNORDISOWN Sounds good I subbed if that helps any haha.
@@kmdkmd-jz8pv thanks for the sub mate 👍
Greatest reviewer is back
Thanks Ermek !
Great review 👍
Thanks Chris!
I just watched the review on Jared's Tech for this laptop and he says that there is g-sync with Optimist off and adaptive sync with Optimus on????..
Can u clarify this, because u said theres no gsync or adaptive sync
That is incorrect. It does not have Gsync. As for Freesync, that would be applicable if it had the Radeon settings but it does not. It does not have advanced optimus. My friend has the laptop too and concurs with me.
That being said neither my friend or myself see any tearing. Possibly because of the 240Hz and OLED combination.
@@OWNORDISOWN ok thx.
@@OWNORDISOWN the other channel says u get adaptive sync from 48-240hz when optimus turned on. Ur saying this is inaccurate?
@@OWNORDISOWN reddit folk say it has adaptive sync when optimus is on too
@indo Jarrod pinned a comment saying that he made a mistake about Gsync. Probably it is pinned in his review video. As for adaptive sync you normally see the range in the Radeon control panel.
I don't have the GE67HX anymore, I do have the GE77HX and there is no mention of the variable refresh rate range anywhere. Not in Nvidia control panel, system information, create a custom resolution, or windows display settings. Perhaps you can ask how they found that range and I'll ask my buddy to look at his system.
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Wooohoo
You know you want one 😏
You channel stands out among all the rest. Best tech reviewer I’ve ever seen! Thanks for all the interesting tadbits about the laptop I would of never gotten on any other review. Somehow your review doesn’t seam bloated with information yet it’s concise. Very well done sir!
thanks mate, glad you liked it!