Just curious, how much lead would you need to add to the hoop in order, to retain the original balance after adding the leather grip? Obviously, this would vary depending on where you add the weight -- 12 o'clock, 3 & 9, etc... Thanks!
At 12 o'clock: 4 inches (2,8 g) of lead tape changes balance about 1 point. At 3 and 9: effect is about half of what it is at 12 0'clock. To change 1 cm ~ 3 points you need 12 inches at 12 0'clock or 24 inches to 3 and 9 to have original balance.
Weight considerations aside, I played decades where leather grips were the only viable grip option (maybe excluding cheesecloth). This included high end grips like Fairway. I find the artificial grips to be so much better in feel and performance. I tried a leather grip a few years back (Fairway) and found it disappointing after a few sets.
1:25 The TW private label leather grip comes in 1.5 and 1.3 mm thickness. The Head Hydrosorb Pro is just under 1.8 mm. => Both options will reduce your grip size by about half a size to one full size.
My factory-installed leather grip wore out. I removed it and will install a TW leather grip (same as in video). I noticed there are staples in the grip, so apparently staples were used by the factory to install the leather grip. But I can just go ahead and install the TW leather grip without stapling, correct?
Yes, I did get an under spec one. I find that rackets are under spec more often than over which makes sense from a manufacturer’s standpoint because under spec can be remedied more easily.
Literally about to do the same thing to my vcore pro 97L. Was seeing if I could make small mods on the 97L to play but looks like I will end up with the 310 specs after this. There's a lot of debate on whether a leather grip and overgrip would add swingweight. Some said zero and some said 1-2 pts increase. This confirms it all.
That wasn't what I was expecting. I thought the swing weight would have gone down. Then what is the effect on the feel of the racket on the swing? Does it feel faster through the air? Does it feel more stable upon collision with the ball?
It depends on what type of swing. On forehands, backhands and serves where you’re generating plenty of head speed the impact is minimal. If you are blocking the ball more like with a volley or some returns of serve it helps with stability. To me it does not feel faster through the air although some say it has a more maneuverable feel.
The leather grip WILL provide recoil weight. Which means that the impact of the ball on the strings affects the movement of the handle less because of the added weight near the bottom. In other words, slightly more stability.
For me it makes the racquet more stable from the base line, especially on the blocking shots. But it also slowes down moving the racquet through the air which always denies this approach for me. It is a question of a proper racquet's choice. All the producers made a crap before 2020, but now some good enough racquet's are available
You can't play with just a leather grip though! As soon as your hand gets at all sweaty the grip will be slippy! pros that use a leather grip tend to put a thin over grip over it.
Great experiment for tennis nerds! Swing weight is a mother of all specs 🙏
This is how to put on a leather grip video, good job.
good way to add weight to a typical head heavy & lighter weight racquet to balance it out
Just curious, how much lead would you need to add to the hoop in order, to retain the original balance after adding the leather grip? Obviously, this would vary depending on where you add the weight -- 12 o'clock, 3 & 9, etc... Thanks!
At 12 o'clock: 4 inches (2,8 g) of lead tape changes balance about 1 point.
At 3 and 9: effect is about half of what it is at 12 0'clock.
To change 1 cm ~ 3 points you need 12 inches at 12 0'clock or 24 inches to 3 and 9 to have original balance.
Leather is classy plain and simple
Weight considerations aside, I played decades where leather grips were the only viable grip option (maybe excluding cheesecloth). This included high end grips like Fairway. I find the artificial grips to be so much better in feel and performance. I tried a leather grip a few years back (Fairway) and found it disappointing after a few sets.
Hi, good video man. Could yo do Adding weight to the handle next?
ruclips.net/video/xb_UKCg9nf4/видео.html Check out this one. I add weight to the handle in this customization.
1:25 The TW private label leather grip comes in 1.5 and 1.3 mm thickness. The Head Hydrosorb Pro is just under 1.8 mm.
=> Both options will reduce your grip size by about half a size to one full size.
My factory-installed leather grip wore out. I removed it and will install a TW leather grip (same as in video). I noticed there are staples in the grip, so apparently staples were used by the factory to install the leather grip. But I can just go ahead and install the TW leather grip without stapling, correct?
Yep, you can get an Oehms Pro Leather grip in 1.7 which will keep the grip size the same. I believe Head uses those in their pro room, just rebranded.
Great video!
Thanks!
What thickness and weight is your leather grip? And what brand?
I use almost to all my rackets
This recommended For badminton rackets?
Which grip would you suggest to increase the grip size by one
Did you get an underspec ET? You mentioned having lead on the sides at 3 and 9. Just surprised that the SW is only 317.
Yes, I did get an under spec one. I find that rackets are under spec more often than over which makes sense from a manufacturer’s standpoint because under spec can be remedied more easily.
@@simmstennis whats the SW unstrung?
It is amazing that SW is the same. But since it will be more stable from the base line and heavier on the serve what does the SW mean?...
Nice videos, I have a head leather grip, do you think it will streach like that?,
Doasn t seem streachy.
It should stretch. Just pull nice and hard and it should at least a little.
Thank you :)
Literally about to do the same thing to my vcore pro 97L. Was seeing if I could make small mods on the 97L to play but looks like I will end up with the 310 specs after this. There's a lot of debate on whether a leather grip and overgrip would add swingweight. Some said zero and some said 1-2 pts increase. This confirms it all.
Man, leather and polys on a medium stiff frame is really a vibration galore...
Can i use leather grip on top of overgrip? Thanks
I would not recommend that
Do you play with an overgrip? And dampener ?
The overgrip can add 6 grams and the dampener maybe 2 grams
I play with an overgrip but no dampener.
That wasn't what I was expecting. I thought the swing weight would have gone down. Then what is the effect on the feel of the racket on the swing? Does it feel faster through the air? Does it feel more stable upon collision with the ball?
It depends on what type of swing. On forehands, backhands and serves where you’re generating plenty of head speed the impact is minimal. If you are blocking the ball more like with a volley or some returns of serve it helps with stability. To me it does not feel faster through the air although some say it has a more maneuverable feel.
Adding weight at the bottom never affects the inertia of the racquet.
The leather grip WILL provide recoil weight. Which means that the impact of the ball on the strings affects the movement of the handle less because of the added weight near the bottom. In other words, slightly more stability.
@Rui Dias correct
For me it makes the racquet more stable from the base line, especially on the blocking shots. But it also slowes down moving the racquet through the air which always denies this approach for me. It is a question of a proper racquet's choice. All the producers made a crap before 2020, but now some good enough racquet's are available
You can't play with just a leather grip though! As soon as your hand gets at all sweaty the grip will be slippy! pros that use a leather grip tend to put a thin over grip over it.
True, I also use an overgrip no matter what type of base grip is beneath.
Just cut the measurements not removing and putting on the grips.
Leather grips make every racket better.
90% of the time it makes it better every time!
@@simmstennis Replaced my Blade Pro with a leather grip, and its so much better.