A callback to Lee Mack making that same joke to Bill on an earlier episode. Bill said Lee was the chairman of the pedantic society and Lee instantly replied "Vice-chairman actually." Think it was on the Groovy episode, could be wrong.
@@SaintPhoenixx I don't know if I've seen that one, but I appreciate the clarification. I think the joke works slightly better in this format though. Either way, it's still a great joke!
@@SaintPhoenixx And a callback to an episode of Never Mind the Buzzcocks when Bill called Mark Lamarr "Chairman of the Pedantic Society" and Mark fired back with "It's the Pedantry Society, actually."
It's strange how people seem to have trouble with the Dutch g and ch. It is just the sound of Phlegm removal, but without the actual Phlegm. Like coughing into your elbow.
Ahh thank you... I was imagining a classroom full of supplies of various kinds, with a teacher at the blackboard desperately trying to impart knowledge to said supplies. I think, on reflection, that "Supplementary Teacher" would be less ambiguous.
I am constantly flabbergasted (wonderful word, is it not?) by just how many quite interesting things I simply never knew. Thank you to the wonderful QI elves, and of course the brilliant regulars on the show. There...I do enjoy a good old bit of brown nosing, it’s good for the soul 👍🏻👏🏻
Never seen James so out of his comfort zone bless him. It would have been a completely different story if he'd had his mates on the show with him. I like that about him though.
I never seen this episode before, I didn't realize that James Acaster appeared on qi while Steven Fry was still the host, I often forget about his age even though I'm basically the same age as him, he has a perpetually youthful face, must be either good genes or theirs a Dorian Grey situation going on.
Goupil was actually a French/Dutch company. His uncle 'Cent' was part owner of Goupil. Vincent started selling paintings at his uncle's branche in The Hague. Then he was fired there and transferred to Paris. Also fired there and transferred to London. In Londen he was also fired and banned from ever setting foot in any Goupil branche again.
I heard that his depression medication combined with an eye problem he might have had could have led to why his paintings look the way they do, cause that's how he might have seen things sometimes
potentially, although like you say, he'd have to have colour-episodes rather than see different colours all the time, otherwise the net result would just be normal pigmentation. It would be pretty interesting if the medication he was taking was also a hallucinogen
They reckon it was a couple of eye conditions that he suffered from late in his life. Damaged retina from lead poisoning that affected how he saw light in that fascinating circular shape. Then also a common side effect of his epilepsy medication was to see the world in more yellow or yellow spots.
@@duncanhw nice to know, but even then the first G would be pronounced softly as a zachte G as you correctly mention, but the second G, actually gh, would be pronounced as a hard G, like in "toch". Cheers, Marc
@@duncanhw dank je, waarschijnlijk heb je gelijk Duncan, ik ben geen Brabander en ging ervan uit dat de Brabanders de naam van Gogh zo zouden uitspreken als ik het in mijn antwoord formuleerde. Maar mijn tenen krullen nog altijd als ik een Amerikaan de naam van de schilder hoor uitspreken , a picture by Vincent ven Goo...
I love the "quite interesting" things they say on this show. Van Gogh was a supply teacher in Ransagte. Brilliant. Truth IS stranger than fiction. It's up there with Pocahontas lived in Brentford. "I'm sorry... What!!!?" U literally couldn't sit down and make it up as it wouldn't be as unbelievable. Lol.
@@dancedecker haha yes! I used to live about 200 yards away from there. The blue plaque commemorating it is almost directly opposite Isleworth Congressional Church. These days, Brentford has the likes of Ant & Dec and Gareth Gates.. so.. take that as you will..!
@@ThemeparkRidley Many thanks for that. I love finding out strange and almost unbelievable facts about places that just make u go... What?? One of my favourites is that Hitler had a step brother who was a kitchen porter at the Adelphi Hotel in Liverpool and lived in Toxteth. He visited him several times. It's maybe why nearby Blackpool was never bombed, when all the war effort things it did, made it a prime target. Allegedly he took his brother to it. Adolf knew the importance of giving your forces some r and r, so why bomb a ready made Disneyland that if he won, as he knew in his mind he would, he would then have use of? Hence, never touched.. Truth really can be stranger than fiction.
The surname of the woman who bought the only painting of his that he sold sounds like Van Gogh's surname (the Gogh part) but I'm guessing it probably wasn't spelt the same.
@@thatguy13ish oh fair enough, I was wondering why it was such a big deal, we say man all the time in Hants. I was wondering if something like "Mant" (cause it sounded a bit like an unvoiced t or stop at the end) might have been a regional or class thing like "mush", "bruv" or "Geeze". Thats boring
There’s a portrait Tanguy commissioned of themselves for Van Gogh to paint in his own style. I’m not sure if that counts in the art world. The commission he got from an uncle to draw a collection of city views when he was young probably doesn’t count. Then there’s the Red Vineyard which is his only painting sold in his lifetime that we know the name of which Anna Boch purchased. He bartered other works to artists that recognised their quality in exchange for food and art supplies. So sold probably isn’t the right word there. Interesting history though.
They said "supply teacher", which is a teacher employed on a temporary basis to cover of a full time teacher who is absent due to illness or other reasons.
I feel like Van Gogh was just some destitute man desperate for meaning in making his paintings. But.. he worked at a gallery when he was young? Has he been mischaracterized by media sources that know that internet clickers would find them? His characterization in Dr. Who certainly suggested he personally felt no meaning other than his art.
@kilroy978 He started working at the Goupil art gallery in The Hague that was owned by his uncle. back then it wasn't like today where you go to school and find out what kind of job you want to do. He came from a family of preachers and art dealers. He did not have any choice: he had to go and work in his uncle's art gallery in The Hague. He was named after his uncle 'Cent' (short for Vincent) and he was being groomed to take over his uncle's art galery when he would come of age. but he was a very eccentric and socially disturbed young man and he did not function well at all as a salesman. Therefore he was fired in The Hague and transferred to the branche in Paris. There he was also fired and transferred to the branche in London. And when eventually he also got fired in London it had become so bad that he was actually banned from ever setting foot again at Goupil art gallery.
I know Gogh sold art, it's in various museums, and he's half decent. I do art, and I still have a pile of it, and NO ONE WANTS IT. Won't be in a museum, that's for sure. Sad part is- I'm half decent, too.
I hear you. I'm in the process of moving house and the biggest portion of my belongings are arts/crafts and my own artwork/sketchbooks. Just sitting around gathering dust. Think I might give some away for free.
This question actually does not sit well with me. I think even if being pedantic, it feels to be a stretch semantically for that meaning to be taken from that sentence.
Well to be honest, he only sold one painting. You can only sell something you possess. when he was working at the gallery he didn’t sell the paintings, he brokered a sale between the painter (or the owner of the gallery) and the buyer.
@@julius5256 Who are you, the chairman of the Pedantic Society? Even if you are right, "to sell" a thing is also a both a verb and a noun meaning the persuasion of someone to buy that thing, or the persuasion in convincing a person of the merits of a monetary transaction. Van Gogh did sell paintings, because it was his job to persuade people to buy them.
@@thumbsdownbandit Firstly, no, you may not. Secondly, neither was your comment solicited. In fact, they give you a button for the express purpose of thumbing down. Thirdly, your thumbs down bandit shtick is lame. Lastly, do unto others as you would have them do to you, remember it.
That "It's actually the Society of Pedantics" line is genius.
A callback to Lee Mack making that same joke to Bill on an earlier episode. Bill said Lee was the chairman of the pedantic society and Lee instantly replied "Vice-chairman actually."
Think it was on the Groovy episode, could be wrong.
It is, but technically it should be “The Society of Pedants”
@@SaintPhoenixx I don't know if I've seen that one, but I appreciate the clarification. I think the joke works slightly better in this format though.
Either way, it's still a great joke!
@@SaintPhoenixx And a callback to an episode of Never Mind the Buzzcocks when Bill called Mark Lamarr "Chairman of the Pedantic Society" and Mark fired back with "It's the Pedantry Society, actually."
It's actually ingenius but ok
I love the audible cries of frustration at the reveal
Probably the funniest klaxon in the series
*_“It's actually the Society of Pedantics but I'll let that go.”_*
The best joke in the whole episode nearly slipped past me XD
The first attempt at "Gogh" was excellent. Well done (or don, or dorn, or doon)
It was actually a question on one of the episodes xD
Is that the one when they invited the host of the Dutch version of QI to the UK, just so he could sit in the audience and pronounce it correctly?
@@gwishart yeah, that one. i hope to j.c. he did not fly over to britain just to do THAT XD
It's strange how people seem to have trouble with the Dutch g and ch. It is just the sound of Phlegm
removal, but without the actual Phlegm. Like coughing into your elbow.
@@CucumberpatchAddict It's less than four hours by train; most of the British audience will have spent longer than that getting to the recording.
For those wondering "Supply Teacher" is British for "Substitute Teacher" in American.
In Australia we say "Relief Teacher"
Thank you!
Ahh thank you... I was imagining a classroom full of supplies of various kinds, with a teacher at the blackboard desperately trying to impart knowledge to said supplies.
I think, on reflection, that "Supplementary Teacher" would be less ambiguous.
Kosdan also from Australia: ive always said CRT (casual relief teacher)
Or just the universal term of, ‘easy prey’.
Reminds me of that Dr Who episode where they featured Van Gogh. Don't know why but that character is forever etched as Van Gogh in my mind.
...and he dedicated Sunflowers to Amy Pond!
Same here, it was a really touching, well-written episode!
Having not seen much of the good doctor myself, I always think of Scorsese's portrayal in Kurosawas Dreams.
It's a little known secret that Van Gogh was actually a ginger Scotsman, who'd also served in the SAS.
Every so often I watch it on You Tube.
ruclips.net/video/ubTJI_UphPk/видео.html
simply the best panel show in the world. You can watch the same show over and over and appreciate the knowledge wit and respect
Stephen fry's voice is now the voice of my mind
Not a bad thing
If it was actually Stephen fry he’d have tools you it’s called an internal monologue
lay off the ketamine
Jack Whitehall says this himself on QI
I love how there are audible boos when he revealed the answer
I am constantly flabbergasted (wonderful word, is it not?) by just how many quite interesting things I simply never knew. Thank you to the wonderful QI elves, and of course the brilliant regulars on the show. There...I do enjoy a good old bit of brown nosing, it’s good for the soul 👍🏻👏🏻
QI elves? More like QI trolls judging from this video!
Never seen James so out of his comfort zone bless him. It would have been a completely different story if he'd had his mates on the show with him. I like that about him though.
Alan, Jo, Bill, James, and Stephen. Talk about an epic line-up.
I never seen this episode before, I didn't realize that James Acaster appeared on qi while Steven Fry was still the host, I often forget about his age even though I'm basically the same age as him, he has a perpetually youthful face, must be either good genes or theirs a Dorian Grey situation going on.
I read in Irving Stone's novel that he sold 6 drawings to his uncle and 5 of his earliest painting to a fellow artist
Jan Hendrik Weissenbruch.
Goupil was actually a French/Dutch company. His uncle 'Cent' was part owner of Goupil. Vincent started selling paintings at his uncle's branche in The Hague. Then he was fired there and transferred to Paris. Also fired there and transferred to London. In Londen he was also fired and banned from ever setting foot in any Goupil branche again.
They may not have agreed with his methods, but *slams desk* damn it! He knew how to get those paintings sold!
I heard that his depression medication combined with an eye problem he might have had could have led to why his paintings look the way they do, cause that's how he might have seen things sometimes
potentially, although like you say, he'd have to have colour-episodes rather than see different colours all the time, otherwise the net result would just be normal pigmentation. It would be pretty interesting if the medication he was taking was also a hallucinogen
They reckon it was a couple of eye conditions that he suffered from late in his life.
Damaged retina from lead poisoning that affected how he saw light in that fascinating circular shape.
Then also a common side effect of his epilepsy medication was to see the world in more yellow or yellow spots.
Thank you for letting us know about the supply vs substitute teacher
Does anyone knows what Bill does this days? Haven't seen him in new panal shows... hope he is well and happy 😉
He's mainly a stand up comic, combining jokes and music. Some of his older shows are right here on RUclips.
Lotta Kukeke I have a ticket here for his stand up in Munich in January. Was originally planned for March this year but COVID interfered!
Nice pronunciation of van Gogh from Stephen!
@@duncanhw nice to know, but even then the first G would be pronounced softly as a zachte G as you correctly mention, but the second G, actually gh, would be pronounced as a hard G, like in "toch". Cheers, Marc
@@duncanhw dank je, waarschijnlijk heb je gelijk Duncan, ik ben geen Brabander en ging ervan uit dat de Brabanders de naam van Gogh zo zouden uitspreken als ik het in mijn antwoord formuleerde. Maar mijn tenen krullen nog altijd als ik een Amerikaan de naam van de schilder hoor uitspreken , a picture by Vincent ven Goo...
Bill and James are a treat
I love the "quite interesting" things they say on this show. Van Gogh was a supply teacher in Ransagte. Brilliant. Truth IS stranger than fiction.
It's up there with Pocahontas lived in Brentford. "I'm sorry... What!!!?"
U literally couldn't sit down and make it up as it wouldn't be as unbelievable. Lol.
Strangely enough, Vincent also lived in Isleworth opposite the church.. just a short distance from the next town... Brentford!!
@@ThemeparkRidley Wow. Really? The understated and maybe underestimated power of the Brentford area. Lol.
@@dancedecker haha yes! I used to live about 200 yards away from there. The blue plaque commemorating it is almost directly opposite Isleworth Congressional Church.
These days, Brentford has the likes of Ant & Dec and Gareth Gates.. so.. take that as you will..!
@@ThemeparkRidley Many thanks for that. I love finding out strange and almost unbelievable facts about places that just make u go... What??
One of my favourites is that Hitler had a step brother who was a kitchen porter at the Adelphi Hotel in Liverpool and lived in Toxteth. He visited him several times.
It's maybe why nearby Blackpool was never bombed, when all the war effort things it did, made it a prime target. Allegedly he took his brother to it.
Adolf knew the importance of giving your forces some r and r, so why bomb a ready made Disneyland that if he won, as he knew in his mind he would, he would then have use of?
Hence, never touched..
Truth really can be stranger than fiction.
@@dancedecker now that is fascinating to know.
I do enjoy all these little things that make history so barmy..
Astonishing.
Arguably, he wasn't really selling them. The gallery he represented sold them.
Van Gogh was supposed to be coming to the NGV here in Melbourne this year. Now it may never get here :(
Sorry to have to break it to you like this Grunthos but he's been dead for years.
Sometimes I really do hate this program, Bill should get some points.
Unfortunately, he also said "none", as well as "one", so the points he gained for "one" were cancelled out by guessing "none" first.
Nobody on the show gives a stuff about points. It is pure entertainment.
The points don't actually matter.
No, he shouldn't.
Pedantics? In this show? Surely not!
It's pedantry, actually :p
1:34 Why is James Hetfield holding that painting?
I miss Stephen Fry
The surname of the woman who bought the only painting of his that he sold sounds like Van Gogh's surname (the Gogh part) but I'm guessing it probably wasn't spelt the same.
It's Anna Boch, this is her
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Boch
*Stephen:* How many paintings did Van Gogh sell in his lifetime?
*Bill:* One.
*Stephen:* Well, yes, but actually no.
1:24 What does James nearly call him? I'm hearing "man" or maybe "mant"
"Man" - a pattern of speech favoured by the younger generation in the UK, but it's probably not as respectful as Acaster wants to be towards Stephen
@@thatguy13ish oh fair enough, I was wondering why it was such a big deal, we say man all the time in Hants. I was wondering if something like "Mant" (cause it sounded a bit like an unvoiced t or stop at the end) might have been a regional or class thing like "mush", "bruv" or "Geeze". Thats boring
I miss Stephen (I like Sandy)
So it was a trick question! It's good to know he was pretty good painting salesman, but that's not what we wanted to know, you know...
Me as an American, when they mentioned Brixton: "I've only heard of that place in a hip hop song."
Lol. That's hilarious.
That's like me and Compton to be fair
Wasnt this one already uploaded?
I think it has been a part of a recent compilation video, but I forget which one.
“He would have gone and got some chicken from Chicken Liquor, that’s real nice.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh I misunderstood that as Chicken Licker and was thinking that was an odd name for a business.
I was correct. Just one.
And his works became famous thanks to his sister-in law.
There’s a portrait Tanguy commissioned of themselves for Van Gogh to paint in his own style. I’m not sure if that counts in the art world.
The commission he got from an uncle to draw a collection of city views when he was young probably doesn’t count. Then there’s the Red Vineyard which is his only painting sold in his lifetime that we know the name of which Anna Boch purchased.
He bartered other works to artists that recognised their quality in exchange for food and art supplies. So sold probably isn’t the right word there.
Interesting history though.
What is a Supple Teacher?
They said "supply teacher", which is a teacher employed on a temporary basis to cover of a full time teacher who is absent due to illness or other reasons.
We Americans would call him a substitute teacher.
A "supple" teacher could be bosom-y...
I enjoy that QI comment sections aren't full of imbeciles saying "First".
Well please come on, technically he did sell one painting.
I feel like Van Gogh was just some destitute man desperate for meaning in making his paintings. But.. he worked at a gallery when he was young? Has he been mischaracterized by media sources that know that internet clickers would find them? His characterization in Dr. Who certainly suggested he personally felt no meaning other than his art.
Good one, kilroy987!
@kilroy978 He started working at the Goupil art gallery in The Hague that was owned by his uncle. back then it wasn't like today where you go to school and find out what kind of job you want to do. He came from a family of preachers and art dealers. He did not have any choice: he had to go and work in his uncle's art gallery in The Hague. He was named after his uncle 'Cent' (short for Vincent) and he was being groomed to take over his uncle's art galery when he would come of age. but he was a very eccentric and socially disturbed young man and he did not function well at all as a salesman. Therefore he was fired in The Hague and transferred to the branche in Paris. There he was also fired and transferred to the branche in London. And when eventually he also got fired in London it had become so bad that he was actually banned from ever setting foot again at Goupil art gallery.
I know Gogh sold art, it's in various museums, and he's half decent. I do art, and I still have a pile of it, and NO ONE WANTS IT. Won't be in a museum, that's for sure.
Sad part is- I'm half decent, too.
I initially thought you said you had a pile of Van Goghs lying around, lol. I was questioning why you had so many valuable paintings
“Half decent”: does it mean you are half-dressed? From waist down or up? Or maybe left / right side?
@@RainbowSunshineRain I think the bottom half would need to be dressed otherwise it would be half indecent.
@@carltonleboss I read it like that too. Just casually have Van Gogh's art work piled in a corner.
I hear you. I'm in the process of moving house and the biggest portion of my belongings are arts/crafts and my own artwork/sketchbooks. Just sitting around gathering dust. Think I might give some away for free.
This question actually does not sit well with me. I think even if being pedantic, it feels to be a stretch semantically for that meaning to be taken from that sentence.
Ah, so you're the vice-chairman of the Pendantry Association, then?
*sigh*
Ha Ha
Well to be honest, he only sold one painting.
You can only sell something you possess. when he was working at the gallery he didn’t sell the paintings, he brokered a sale between the painter (or the owner of the gallery) and the buyer.
That's not true at all. A salesman for a car company sells loads of cars they don't personally own.
Nathan McDaniel Are they named as the sellers in the contract?
Do they get the money that gets paid for the car?
@@julius5256 Who are you, the chairman of the Pedantic Society? Even if you are right, "to sell" a thing is also a both a verb and a noun meaning the persuasion of someone to buy that thing, or the persuasion in convincing a person of the merits of a monetary transaction. Van Gogh did sell paintings, because it was his job to persuade people to buy them.
Thumbs down.
@nicole nagy chairman of the pedantic society that's why🤣
Very well, a thumbs down for you, as requested.
@@NorthernSeaWitch If I may correct you, I didn't request anything from you. You chimed in unsolicited.
@@thumbsdownbandit Firstly, no, you may not. Secondly, neither was your comment solicited. In fact, they give you a button for the express purpose of thumbing down. Thirdly, your thumbs down bandit shtick is lame. Lastly, do unto others as you would have them do to you, remember it.
nicole nagy I think their username might be a clue as to why.