THE CASE OF THE WHOLAVER FAMILY
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2020
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I can't stop thinking about how Vicki ran to Izzy's room to save her and actually managed to save Madison. Such beautiful women did not deserve this monster in their lives. How did he point a gun at his 15 year old daughter who tried to fight him and shoot her in the eye. I absolutely cannot fathom.
A total Narcissistic psychopath, incapable of real love.
@@lynnebuglar6580 this
Well, it is the same man who sexually molested her...He did not care then, he did not care later...
The mental image of that poor little baby crying in her dead mothers arms is heart wrenching. She must have been so scared and confused as to why her mom wasn’t comforting her, taking care of her hunger and thirst, as she got progressively colder and lifeless. I feel literal pain thinking about this, especially having had my own baby. I felt terrible if he was crying for an extended amount of time because I didn’t hear him as soon as I would have like to. Thank god she was ok physically after.
Same girl. All the same feelings. 😔😰
Same aswell, heart wrenching!
i agree, but at least the baby wasn’t old enough to remember that
@Froggy Pie yeah
Froggy pie Thats not true, its writing the unconscious part of the brain, they may not have memories but many times they will have nightmares about the event. Every experience we have has an impact on how we perceive and interact with the world around us. Our unconscious has way more of an effect on us then most ppl realize
Dude, if my brother was a molester, I would never talk to him again, let alone drink with him like nothing happened or drive him anywhere
especially if it was my NIECES, like he molested scott’s nieces and his own daughters. i would absolutely despise him
My older half brother assaulted me for years. Not only did our mom accuse me of lying (repeatedly)...
She also still maintains a relationship with him. I hate them both.
@@mcdougalvalentine5801 i'm so sorry to hear that, i really hope you got away from the people who harmed you, so you can heal
EXACTLY, like when I heard that I hated the brother too!!
@@mcdougalvalentine5801 I’m sorry but your mom is disgusting like if my daughter told me that her older brother was assaulting her I would literally disown him
Can we talk about how amazing of a mother gene was? Like as soon as she was informed her daughters were molested she believed them right away no thought and like kicked ul out ernest THATS WHAT ALL MOTHERS SHOULD BE LIKE!!!!
IKR. no child should feel like they need to hold that back and any parent should believe there child no matter the consequences.
Mine wasn't like this.... that's why I commend mothers who put their kids first, it's more rare than it is common. It's so disgusting that he killed them because he got caught sexually assaulting them. Smh
@@ShayLikeButter i hope with all my heart that you're safe now, thriving and on track to closure and acceptance. I hope your guard can be down now, and your future filled with love
@@ShayLikeButter I’m at so sorry babe you don’t deserve that. Your mother is disgusting and you never deserve that
I wish my mom was like this
Immediately believing your children should be considered the bare minimum
The bar is so fucking low. I was terrified my mother wouldn't believe me either, thank god she did.
Amen.
Completely agree, I forget that this isn't always the case
The baby Madison is obviously grown up now, her linkedin profile reads
“My motivations are wanting to create a better life for myself financially. I want to be able to help people. I wanna be able to make my mom proud. I am skilled at putting data into the computer and helping others in life. My next step in life would be to get an internship and continue my path to being an Rn.”
And that is so amazing and beautiful to me. So glad she was able to make a great life for herself despite the horrible things that happened.
awh
@Violet brown
…why are you laughing?
As soon as I saw his pic I was like. “HE DONE IT”
Same!
Same!
Same
He looks so guilty!!
lmaooo SAMEEEE
From what I'm seeing, men who sexually abuse their children have no issues escalating to murder. They view their children as their property and will "punish" accordingly when they step out of line. Reminds me of the Said sisters case. So despicable.
Thank god the finally got him amd he's where he belongs! That mother in that case.... I cant even.... Ugh she burns my biscuits.... I blame HER
I told my husband ( before we even had any kids) that if our kid/kids ever say mom/dad is doing something to he/her to 1st believe them ( even if they say its mom) cuz they need someone to believe and support them you can always figure it out if it's true or not later. I was molested it takes so much for a child to finally open up and let a trusted person know what's been going on The worst is not being believed.
Good on you for having that very important yet difficult convo. If more people did, generations of trauma could be avoided. My grandmother wasn't believed and was told by her mother that she must've imagined it, so when my uncle was molested by my grandfather, my grandmother told him he was lying and must've imagined it (as she probably came to genuinely believe she did too as a child). That uncle died after many years of drug and alcohol abuse. My grandfather was later investigated for molesting children in his care (he was head of a children's ward in a psychiatric hospital). If my uncle was believed, he may not have died and my grandfather could've been charged before he had the chance to molest those other kids. But my grandmother didn't believe him because no one believed her and she learned to accept an adults narrative over a child's, even her own child's. So the cycle continued.
@@RealElongatedMuskrat so very true I'm sorry for your loss
@@heathergabbysalomon3614 bless you friend, thank you ❤️
so happy to hear you are breaking the chain of molestation for your children. all the generations before me were molested and my parents never listened to me. children are such sweet souls that need to be listened to and loved
When you show the picture of the husband, I am like... He did it. I don’t know what but he did it.
Same!
Poor baby!!! 30 hours in her mama's arms... My heart is shattered...
me: *having a bad day*
“hey guys it’s bella”
me: 😌
Literally though
Me too!! I especially looked out for her to post a new vid (so she would see my comment, I want her to cover the Jessie Dotson massacre) and when I got the new vid notification there was already hundreds of comments 🙁
Hope your day gets better 💕
Same :)
“Make it make sense” -you got me, Bella 😂
omg bella put more ads you deserve it
periodt!!
the only channel i wanna watch ads on!!
Yu o@@sarahxd6760 you
Interesting, I always thought it was an auto-generated thing.
@@o_o-lj1ym the specific ad is random but the frequency/amount of ads per video is up to the creator, the more “ad friendly” their channel is the more ads they can choose to put in, however most true crime videos are not considered “advertiser friendly” so you’ll see most true crime you tubers have sponsers
this 'man' is the reason why i can never completely dismiss the death penalty, some people are so evil that they do need to die because there are always people they can manipulate and get away with things even if they serve their time.
This 12 days of Christmas series has made me realize family massacres are more common then I would’ve thought 😟
@@ameliecox1 yep. Choose wisely!
and during the holidays no less 😭🥺
Right I thought they was rare
@@harleighstringer Therapists call Christmas "Crisis-mas".... Says it all.
Makes me so mad that when the parents called asking for a welfare check the police said wait until tomorrow. Like there are 3 adults who have regular plans with their family at Christmas and they haven't turned up, that's suspicious and you should check. Ffs
Yep. Madison could have easily died during that time.
They probably had limited resources for that day and didnt think using it to check on 3 adults was worth it. But completely agree. A quick welfare check should have been done - it couldn't have taken more than half an hour altogether.
To be honest, I think the main motive for killing his daughters might not have been for them not to testify against him In court, but because their accusations ended his marriage of 20 years to Jean. Even though he was very "calm" and seemed kinda detached after the fact, it seems to me that this was a crime of passion and in an emotion-filled moment of rage, I guess the marriage issue spoke louder than the possibility of conviction for molesting his kids - which seems like more of a logical approach to the matter. Extremely horrific though... I hope baby Madison got the emotional and psychological support she so clearly needed after this entire situation.
It would be great if people (including lawyers, investigators etc) stop calling it a ‘crime of passion’. It ought to be called a ‘crime of batshit obsession’ or ‘crime of rabidly emotional obsession’ or something along those lines. Because those that are likely to commit such crimes won’t be deterred if they heard the respectful term ‘crime of passion’, but they might think twice if they learned that they’re going to be termed as someone that committed a crime of rabidly emotional obsession.
@@noraa.616 most killers want to be known as the big bad man that’s why they don't put names like that because that actually attracts a lot of killers.
@@jessicaosborne4588 I can see this, but I also think killers that think that way- ESPECIALLY men- would be more upset to have their crime be called a crime of obsession because that implies that they're too weak to not think about that person and we all know men don't like to be seen as weak. But then again they don't seem to think very logically, so who knows
I agree. I feel like he did not care that he molested the kids. He either didn't feel like it was a big deal or was a narcissist who felt like it should not make him a bad person. The real issue for him was that it ended his marriage and had consequences. I don't know if it was love for Jean so much as frustration that he clearly had no control over this situation
I wonder if he depended on Jean financially as well?
"Manipulative people be like: "Oh, so I'm the bad guy for being the bad guy?"" Too true!
Its currently 23:40. Its 20 minutes until christmas eve. I’m watching Bella talking about a murder. I’m drinking Pepsi Max and eating chocolate. I love life❤️
@India Mack omg thanks! U2❤️
Living the dream😊 have a good Christmas!
happy holidays :) 💗
Happy Christmas Eve!!
@Emma Gerstung 10:13 where I am lol
The husband looked crazy & mental from the start when Bella showed the first picture
Bella’s stories are like our own advent calendar & I’ll be so sad when it’s done 😢
Me to😕
Ikr
The fact that she died holding her baby, and how her mom died protecting her babies as well. These women were amazing mothers and had to of been great sisters. R.I.P. 🌸🤍
Grew up down the street from them and went to school with Vicky. I remember this Christmas like it was yesterday. So sad 😔
wow... so sorry. such a crazy tragedy
A little mid-week mystery I’m here for it
Well, Chris Watt's parents tried to get the money from Shannan's life insurance, so nothing surprises me any more 🤷🏻♀️
Sick 😡😤
Omg that’s absolutely disgusting.
Are they raising her daughters? If so its understandable why they did.
@@sammimccutcheon9770 her daughters and unborn son were also killed by chris, absolutely devastating.
edit: to answer the question, no.
@@sammimccutcheon9770 Chris Watts, aka the literal monster, suffocated both of his baby girls and buried them. He wanted to “start over” with his life by quite literally removing everyone from his old life. What a sick twisted man, that case still makes me cry whenever I hear it.
At least he didn’t kill his granddaughter and she most likely will never have a memory of this.
Was it clear the baby wasn't his?
@@edbond7863 the man who is raising Madison is the birth father it was proven. So she is at least with her dad.
@@candi0826 tear of relief
Ughhhhhh this is why I shouldn't read the comment section while watching the video 😩 God I hate myself it's the third time this week!
@@mckaydlha do you remember what her last name was
Thank you for covering this 💚❤️💚 My little brother went to school with Izzy. We just moved down the street about 2 months before this happened. This was so heartbreaking, our community is still some what shaken from this 18 years later. The house sat empty for years until someone bought it and torn it down. I am happy to hear that Madison is doing great!
It's not torn down
Omg Bella when you said “not sketchy at all your casual dog snatching gear” I actually spit my coffee out!
You are just the best!
Absolute queen!!!
the police couldn't even be bothered to check [do the job they're paid to] so that baby suffered for 30 hours
Poor baby Madison! I can't imagine finding a baby wrapped in her dead mothers arms😢
i remember i started watching you when i was 16 years old just as background noise while i fed my newborn, she’s now 4 years old & i listen to you while working, cleaning, cooking❤️ you turned me into a true crime junkie over the years
*shows the dad in the first few minutes” well I know who did it. Creep
what’s so creepy is that I live in middletown. I pass that house everyday on my way to school & work. thank you for covering this case.
Can't have guns, but his alibi is hunting!?😂
so my mom was actually friends with jean. they worked in the hospital together. my mom was working that night on the 24th and jean was supposed to be working that day. their boss was very upset jean didn’t show up to work not knowing she was murdered. my mom still remembers that night when they found out jean had been killed . it’s so sad how this all ended.
these 12 days of christmas is the only thing that give me serotonin
don't get me wrong, I think Scott definitely helped his brother and should get some sort of punishment, but 25 years???? that's crazy...there's r*pists that only get like 4 years
agree and scott helped the police and took them to the wooded area and told them everything
Riight seems a tad much but I guess it was a high profile/horrific case so they threw the book at him. I mean he knew his brother was a molester and a murderer but let him live with him and didn't call the police. He only helped after the fact but he'll probably get early parole
I think the rapists should also get 25+ years too though so idk I’m conflicted
Just like everything else in the u.s our justice system is shit
It was up to his lawyer to get him a better deal but he did the right thing going up there and shouldn’t be punished less for allowing and arranging for his brother to murder 4 innocent people. He could’ve called the police while there, could’ve grabbed a gun himself and stopped his brother to try to save the girls, could’ve warned the girls beforehand that his brother wanted to kill them so they could better protect themselves or move etc. It’s a sucky situation altogether.
"You absolute slime ball" is such an epic burn
I am mostly here for the Australian burns. Can't get better than that
I’m so glad you covered this case. I was even going to request this case yesterday after watching yesterday’s video...I worked in Middletown around the time that this took place. Just a couple of blocks away from the home. It was a lovely home in a nice town and it sat vacant for years until it was torn down. I did not know the family personally but know many people who did. This was so tragic and such a shock to the community!
Must suck to be a lawyer defending a criminal
Yeah, I had a very intense discussion about this with some fellow law students. It was stared by me and another girls stating that we could not imagine to be defense attorneys. I could not defend someone who I know is guilty of murder. However defense attorneys are incredibly important for the justice system. Without them the justice system could not be fair, especially to those accused wrongly. They also protect criminals from to harsh sentences. But I could never take this job bc I would not be able to defend a pos like this one.
@@internetpotato6734 yeah they’re need and yes they’re crucial for those who aren’t obviously guilty because then they may be wrongly convicted, but when someone is completely obviously guilty, e.g. their brother completely breaks down and admits the whole thing, knowing that he will be incriminating himself, then I just don’t understand what type of person would agree to take their case on and defend them, like I know someone’s gotta do it but like when they really try and defend these disgusting people, I just think they’re bad people who are blindsided by greed and their reputation imo 😕
They're usually narcs, truth isn't the motivation, it's money
@@TheFaro2011 What about public defenders?
ive never been more excited to get onto youtube every day. thank you for the amount of effort youre putting into these, theyre amazing and you are too
You work so hard on these, they look like they’re so much work but I love them keep up the good work Bella ❤️
I had a similar experience with my own mom, she died with me in her arms, I cry everytime I get a visual. I can certainly relate to that little baby girl..this story breaks my heart not only do she loose her mother but also her grandma and aunts on the same day. Horrible person
My girl is just killing it with these uploads. Love you Bella!
As soon as I saw the husbands picture he gave me the creeps :(
bella I have been watching you for YEARS and you’re my comfort videos. your true crime videos are a type of relaxation therapy for me. I always feel informed and educated and you are SO well spoken and respectful of the cases you cover. all i have to say is thank you
I’ve only just discovered your videos this month and I can’t get enough! you’re doing a fantastic job xo
*Best Christmas countdown ever.*
Just discovered your channel Bella - best true crime presentation I've seen so far. I'm a 62-yr-old mom and this is just heartbreaking.
love love love your new video. you have the ability to story tell & give context to missing persons cases! thank u for the great upload
Thanks so much for putting the update in for baby Madison! So happy to hear she’s great!
I’m from this area and had never heard of this case!! Btw, you did SO GOOD with all of the weird named places, except it’s pronounced like red-ing, not reading. Just found your channel and I’m obsessed!!
please do the case on brittney murphy!! there was definitely foul play involved in her death:(
this would be interesting for her to look into
thanks so much for doing what you do. you deff helped get through quarantine and recently getting sick with COVID. you should also start a podcast too!! you’re fun to listen to.
Thank you so much for all of your work and these videos! They are making life a little easier lately! 😊👍
bella we need to have a serious talk.. WHERE TF ARE YOUR EARRINGS
just kidding xx
I just need to know where she gets her graphic tees
@@rqmamshbeg2056 same
Happy Christmas Eve Bella!! Thank you for blessing us with so many videos 🥰🥰
I can always count on you to really do great research on cases....so happy to have found your channel....
Girl I’ve been watching you for a few years now, thank you for these getaways
Love youuu thanks for all the work your putting into this!!!❤️
can we just appreciate how much work she puts in those videos??? im so grateful, they calm me down so much with her voice
Yesss thank you for another video! Proud of you for working so hard on these!
It's so interesting hearing this case from someone who doesn't live here where it happened. People still talk about it here. Also, you talking about the distances between PA cities in kilometers is fun.
“He sounds SO annoying.” 😂 I was thinking that at the exact same time!
It’s 1:20 am I’m so glad I waited for this!!!
Thank you for putting in the update about the baby at the end! I was wondering about her pretty much the whole time such a terrible thing to happen 😔
Loving these! I’m going to be so sad 😭 when these are done
When you talked about Jean's hometown, I kept thinking you were saying Jonestown and I was like, how's that possible lol
oh that scary town 😭
Same
I feel bad for Scott. What a shitty brother dragging him into it like that.
Side note. I had a friend that had a brother named Rocky Rock 😅
The Rocky Rock anecdote is exactly what I needed to lift my spirit after watching this video. Thanks for sharing haha that's pretty great. Reminds me of the fact that there was an old English landowner in my family's hometown called William McWilliam back in the day, idk 17 or 1800s, and in the only surviving painting of him in our museum he looks so miserable. I'll never forget my sister pointing that out and then saying "well he would be, wouldn't he? Willy McWilly. He's got dick in his name twice" 😂😂💀💀💀💀 We call him ol' Double Dick now when we talk about the local history.
@@RealElongatedMuskrat haha thanks for sharing - that gave me a laugh!
My friend had a boyfriend named Rocky Rhode, diff speeding them the ice cream, but still... 😂
You Are Beautiful and your story’s are very detailed, I listen to them all day at work !! Love it .
love these everyday uploads , don’t want it to end 🥺
Whenever cases like this happen, I always wonder about people like Scott. Like, I wonder if they would have had as strong of a case if he hadn’t come clean about what happened, and I also wonder if when he got that 25 year sentence he regretted not sticking to the hunting cover story
Omg imagine being that little baby girl and reading Harry Potter for the first time 🥺💔 Reading about Harry's mom who sacrificed herself to save her baby.
These videos are helping me get through Christmas alone, i really enjoy them
These videos are making my whole life right now Bella. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Umm where are your earrings miss mamas?
Yes I was expecting little christmas trees 🥺
Ears probs sore for wearing it everyday and long periods
I'm sad that Scott went along with it. He obviously cared for them and isn't an evil person. I just can't imagine why he drove his brother there.
Manipulation
A combination of 1. Dumbness 2. Drinks 3. Tiredness 4. Manipulation 5. Mental weakness as in someone who cant keep saying no. 6. Blood relations.
I’ve been binge watching your videos for the past two days, I love your mystery/solved videos
I love that she’s reminded how much her mom loved her, like the fact that her dad does that makes me so happy and I literally cried when u said that
So heartbreaking! I can imagine Vickie’s terror trying to protect Madison and both girls looking at their dad wondering why he would do this.
He’s a damn monster is why.
i'm so glad Madison can't remember the crime happening
keep up the wonderful work bella and looking fabulous, as always!! twelve days of christmas has been the best gift!
bella your videos are so amazing i’ve watched them for like 3 years😭😭😭 keep doin you ur so amazing and underrated
What a tragic case! 💔 I feel that justice was served in this case, but even that won’t bring these woman back. I hope that they are all resting in peace. 💕🙏🏼😘
something about this video quality today....*chef's kiss*
i haven’t watched your videos in so long i’m so hypeee
Thank you so much for all your hard work in getting out so many episodes Bella 💯 Hope you're having an amazing Christmas 🌲🎅 💕 🇦🇺
Alsoo I hope everyone has an amazing Christmas and happy holidays! Sending lots of love to everybody ❤️
Back to you
« Get out of my house you slime balls » favourite quote ever
Merry Christmas Bella! 🎄💚 thank you for all these videos, my nights have been made bc of them x
She is perfect for anytime of day. I watch her videos at work and when I’m trying to relax. Any mood.
Bella you Queen! We commend your efforts for 12 Days of Christmas - this can’t have been easy but you’ve consistently delivered high quality content everyday, thank you! Take a well-earned break now x
I saw this case on Investigation Discovery not too long ago! Such a tragic, unfortunate story
Just started this, Bella your hair looks so pretty, HONESTLY I look to forward to your videos makes my day when I see that you’ve uploaded, I’ve watched you since your first mystery vid! X
I can’t believe how much your channel has grown since I’ve subbed. Random but congrats girlie 🥂
Horrible case, so glad the mum believed her children straight away & acted on it, i’ll never understand how someone can harm anyone like this, especially their family. I’m glad the baby was okay.
I love watching your videos !!! 😁
Have been loving the daily videos! Thank you! I really need the distraction right now so just wanted to share my appreciation for your hard work ❤️ happy holidays!
Iuiii
Your videos are so well researched and I really like how you explain everything - your voice and accent are also very soothing to me idk 😄 keep up the good work! ☺️