Beginners guide to using Pressfit….. This will be over a good few videos I think as I get to grips with pressfit, the fittings and just what it’s like to use day to day
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, like many installers on here that said they never would, i am now looking to make the move to press fit. I know a lot of the bigger sites will not allow soldering anymore so i guess blow lamps are going to become as demonised as my old diesel van has so we won't have any choice soon. Like yourself i have no previous experience on press fit so good to see how you got on. Enjoy the channel, Thanks, John
Hi Marky Mark ,saves so much time. Last year I was on a LST rad install on a school with carbon steel up to 80 Mil.down to 15 mil. No problems with hot works permits and fire extinguishers .I first used it in Germany 20 + years ago. I think you will find it indispensable once you get to grips.The main things are working in lofts no fire risks, water in pipes ( press that mother).Time saving too.Hope to see you at PHEX .If I’m not back in Venezuela. Keep The Faith .London Paul.(Paramount Plumbing).
Hi Mark, little tips when you open the jaws you can just press one side down and they will open, always tighten the drain offs as they’re not usually done up 100% and now you’ve got Milwaukee 12v battery’s and charger have a look at the Milwaukee auto cutter and hacksaw makes life so much easier. Keep up the good work.
Get yourself some TH jaws and start using Mlcp, you can sack the push fit off. Been using press since I moved from uk to Oz. We run 3 mini Rems and a large Rothenberger gun. Largest I’ve done is a 100mm fire main.
Appreciate this video, I’m going to take the plunge for the gun. 2 questions: 1, is it obvious where the jaws need to line up on the fittings? 2, is the button held and it finishes the cycle on its own or do yuubhave to de-trigger at the right time yourself? Cheers mate
Great video. Id just say they do all types of fittings. If you can think of the fitting they usually do it but not everyone supplies the full range. A 22x15x22 would have been tighter for that DOC. You also will find when coming through a wall but the fitting is tight too the wall it will be hard to crimp so sometimes you have to crimp out of place. I always found how much cleaner crimp is than soldering. Wait until you are doing 108mm copper then that gets complicated as its 2 crimp heads. The next thing you will get is the milwaukee oipe cutter its game changer for install works.
Plumber recently quoted to fit a new cylinder in our house . He tried to charge me significantly more to fit these fitting (over)quoting their reliability and the cost of the tools and fittings. He wasn't impressed when I reminded him ,right before I invited him to leave, that it cuts down significantly in fitting time.. and time is money .
Considering buying a tapered drill for removing the edge that’s on the inside of your pipe after cutting. A stepped drill-bit is also a possibility. If you buy a bit look for the maxed size 20, those fit perfectly inside a 22 pipe. You’ll get less noise, less wear and better flow. 👍
That is a nice bit of kit. Would you increase your day rate/quotation cost to cover the cost of those fitting or is that offset against the time that gets saved?
I’ve had a couple leak before and a tip I’ve got is to use a really thin piece of card or thick paper and repress them with that over the jaw. No manufacturer will tell you this but in the real world can get you out of a jam
Hi mate, little tip for you from holland. Once the the machine starts pressing, you can let go of the “go” button, and it stops automatic when its finished. Keep up the good work👌👍
No problem, learned a lot from your video’s as well. And get some sliding socks as well, very handy for repairs. Didn’t saw them in your case, only the ‘normal’ socks. ✌️
Hi Mark. It just getting your head around the fact the it does work. Would you use it where it can be seen. Like going to rads in the lounge. It looks bigger than normal fittings. Seems quicker too. Have a good weekend 👍
Welcome to the press revolution!!! The plastic bit that you said "i dont know what that is" is a depth marking gauge for marking the fitting insertion depth Top tips Always plan ahead of your self so you can avoid fittings that the gun cant get into Buy a reaming tool and take the sharp edge off the pipe so it doesn't catch/cut the o ring When marking the depth cross mark it into the bit the fitting sits on so if you have a leaking fitting and the manufacturers want to cut it open to inspect it they can see you marked it before it was pressed Tell your liability insurance company that your % of hot works is now less it could save you money Keep up the good work with the uploads fab viewing as always
Hi mark I have been pressing for a while, I love it, time saving and clean to use great when you have some water in the pipes or a valve that is letting by, I also use MLCP with press fittings which is flexible to a point but so much better than push fit!! I don’t like geberit M press tbh as the fittings do tend to slip about, I have started using Pegasus with the green ring as these are tight on the pipe so don’t fall off👍
After watchìng numerous video,s with press bun being used, i brought one and i love it. However learning its limitations and the cost of fittings. But stil a very handy tool to my collection. Great video
I love my press gun. It's just a different way of thinking. A little tip I have is to plan your pipe run first. There will be some areas you can't get the gun in if you have already pressed pipes next to it if that makes sense. 👍👍👍
Hi mark ive been using press fit for about 2 years and never had any leaks. Love it now fittings wise there more expensive but time wise its so much faster. Keep up the good work buddy
Thanks for the video, i work for a large contractor and dont use anything but pressfit on the small bore stuff, i dont use it myself but wonder if they still recommend you clean the pipe as you would if it was soldered, top job as always
@@MJTiffPlumbing thanks. I used to be the type to buy every new gadget at drop of a hat but fast forward 5 years and 2 van break ins I’m now a lil more cautious about buying expensive gear. Will prob get nova now though and just add it to the stress 😆
Yep… each to there own, I was exactly of that mind set, but thought it would make great content for people to see…. And I might even prefer it after some time.. we will see
Hey Mark, It's cool seeing you do these videos, press definitely saves lots of time with labor. There will be times where soldering will be more practical in certain situations and I'm assuming press fittings are more expensive, but in the long term of things especially if you want to cut down on labor then press is the way to go and I do recall a few people I know that usually go with pressing when it comes to service work so that is always an option there if you have to do repairs in the future too. Maybe, on situations where the fittings have the potential to come down like that, you can always put in a support with a pipe clamp?
Nice to see new tech, but I still love using end feeds cheaper, works better in tight spaces, and can always be unsoldered, unlike pressfit if you make a mistake.
@@MJTiffPlumbing Don't get me wrong really appreciate you giving it the time of day, it's just me old dog set in his ways, thanks for the vids love 'em all
Everyone..., ok most people I've seen that use the press uses it upside down where the trigger is upwards, you want to see the lights, it'll tell you if there was an issue. You can't see the lights if it's facing elsewhere, I'm sure this model swivels the head for more egro use.
Hello Tiff, do you know about the aquagas press fittings? It saves you having 2 lots of fittings for water and gas. You just need one fitting. Just thought you might want to know about them. Enjoy your new toy 👍
Always consider using less T-joints, they restrict the flow. You could easy bend a 90 with an off-set. Or used a 22-15-22 T-joint with a male/female 90 on the end. The T-turn equals 5 meter of pipe, the bend only 1 meter.
You won’t regret it. I never solder these days. Press is fantastic Also the geberit fittings are by far the best fittings. Don’t forget to dry grease the jaws and moving parts.
Nice ! Juse watched a video where a guy removed the orings to prove its the copper that makes the connection! Metal on metal ! The O ring is a fail safe and helps grip the pipe....who knew?
Back when I was commercial new build only, the only thing pipe fitters were allowed was press fit, for the “no hot works” on sites reasons. every job, no matter the company, always had to write their initials on the fittings so any leaks was on them to fix. And they’d always press a bunch of fittings then draw the depth line on afterwards to make their bosses happy that they’d done it right 😂
I looked after a few sprinkler jobs in cpvc pipe (orange pipe). The connections were done using solvent cement but same process of marking the ends of the fittings and initialing the fitting, which was in manufacturer's instructions. Lasted about a day 😂. The lads worked with it that much they just know.
Can you do a video with a comparison between press and tectite sprint and let us know what u think regarding appearance and viability for your day to day jobs and let us know what you think...
Hi Mark... Great upload.. Like you im looking to make the 'Press fit switch'. Recently i extended and altered some domestic and heating pipework in my nieces bathroom. The previous engineer ( they live too far for me to just pop in) used press fit. The cost her husband said for the heating pipes to the upstairs and downstairs was in his opinion quite high for the job involved, but i figured press fittings are not altogether cheap but timewise better???. The only thing i didnt like was pipework on show in a decorated room looks quite ugly. The worst part was a decorative column living room radiator looked ugly due to the drain off being as youve stated ( long and an eyesore). I ran the downstairs bathroom pipework and soldered using end feed, and they both commented on how much better the pipework looked😅 Anyway nate good luck and keep kerping it real..
I know exactly what your saying and that’s exactly my thinking aswell…. This is exactly why I have decided to find out for myself and make some content as a lot of people think the same way…. Will make for some great videos I think
Pressit UK do calibrations buddy…. Check out the link below pressit.uk/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4MSzBhC8ARIsAPFOuyVlq_bn_cvv3W_TN-FBPhESho-NY5o2iWFWpnrmauW-l6wB15XVHHoaAnvoEALw_wcB
Pressit UK do calibrations buddy… check the link below pressit.uk/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4MSzBhC8ARIsAPFOuyVlq_bn_cvv3W_TN-FBPhESho-NY5o2iWFWpnrmauW-l6wB15XVHHoaAnvoEALw_wcB
Bought the same gun last year much prefer it to solder now. Also try direct plumbing supplies for you’re fittings by far the cheapest anywhere and quick delivery. You won’t look back now mate.
I like using a press tool but you have to think ahead when working in a tight spot with fittings close together. You'll be pressing away then find a fitting where you can't get the tool in. Often you can't just switch to a soldered fitting because then you would be soldering too close to a fitting you've already pressed.
Excellent comment because if you go to a pressfitted job, with a soldering bag, occasionally you have to think around modifications because everything in vicinity is pressfitted, for example tmvs under a sink, pressfit excellent for occasional solderers like me, I would love a pressfit tool !!!! Always gonna be a job where they will be worth their weight in gold.
I started to use press on pex before 15 years. I'm originally from Croatia and whole system came from Italy. Valsir and press gun was Rigid and manual one Valsir. I was surprised when I came here before 4 years and saw that plumbers don't use press as much as soldering. Unlike Europe here you have pex and copper 15 while in eu pex is 16 and fittings are not Interchangeable. Also I've noticed that js fittings fail all around. Rather use wiega or V system which have that small bit of pipe on other side. It's more stabile and solid than js fittings. I wish you a good luck and thumb up for chanel.
Hi mate compared to plastic shark bites these must be better.l plumbed in 20 metres of copper pipe in my under build in spain using 15 mm sharkbites.When l returned to Spain at Xmas the rats had chewed 6 fittings to get at the water that was left in the pipework.Luckily we always turned off the mains when we left each visit brilliant product l now use the manual presser cos l am a tight sod
I guess the elbows are swept to give you enough room to get the clamps on and at least holding up the pipes is no issue coz there's no red hot pipe burning your hands! lol....very tidy and much safer particularly in flammable zones although there will be access issues sometimes and you'll have to resort to push fit or sweating....
great to see somebody using one for the first time ,,real life organic stuff eh ,, so tempted to buy one of these for a few pipes in my utility and another couple of jobs around the house later , but at starting prices of £1500 smackeroonys its a bit much for DIY i think i will just settle for the superfire2,,,,, looks great for trades though with lots of use No faff with water still in pipes ,, superb detailed video though
I think the problem is on residential properties it's not worth it but on commercial way you've got a lot of pipework to do it makes more sense with the cost
You have to remember the only seal is a rubber ring which deteriorate over a period of time, I had seven fail on a 6 year old heating system, you can’t beat soldering.
You have taken the plunge then 👍👍. Another tool in your arsenal 👍. It will have its place doing your job .especially if you have a passing water valve. Don't have to worry about trying to solder the joints . Looks good in use 👍👍
interesting video Mark but as I am 70 yrs old now don't do too much installation work just the odd oil boiler as I am still oftec came out of gas but looks a great bit of kit
PB’s recent video with Press UK was very interesting. Warranty duration can be dependent on whether you sent back the warranty card or not. Don’t you need to get them calibrated every year for insurance/warranty? For sure more $$$ but time is ££ and also some homeowners appreciate not having the smell of solderin in the house
Have to say it but you will be imPRESSED when you do a fill up and it dosent leak. Could be a game changer for you but a bit of a pain to change fittings when before you could unswet it. Thanks for the video Mark
Great honest video about using press fit for the first time. Just out of interest, do the fittings still spin like in a speed fit fitting ? Or are they pressed into a solid position?
Hi Mark, on one of your video's, you talked about a tool insurance company, but i'm having trouble finding it. Any chance you could reply with the insurance company name please?
Hey buddy… Rhino Trade Insurance, they do public liability and also tool insurance Or ARMD…. Download the app and upload your tools, then it gives you a cost to cover them👍🏼👍🏼
Good Man Mark Your like a little apprentice again, I’m sitting on the fence looking over the wall will I or won’t I get one, Be very interested in seeing how you get on with it, Good introduction on your first day pressing 👍👍🤜
Hahaha….. exactly how I felt mate… 100% Yep exactly why I want to make this content for people like you, as I was EXACTLY the same so thought I would do it and film it👍🏼
Is the benefit purely time saved? Soldering is pretty quick. I guess you get a cleaner finish…..but will the average customer notice? Still - nice to have a new tool :)
Guess it’s time, no hot works and general ease of working….. but soldering is just as simple…. Hence I thought I would get one and make some content with it👍🏼👍🏼
So you bit the bullet.... You'll be glad with it bud. The thing I would say is: make sure you plan the pipes layout, because it might obstruct the press later on.
Great video. Blimey, think my plumbing days are over as I'll never afford a gun, and it looks like the future(?). Is it acceptable behind a plastered wall. Interesting question: what's the pull off force on a completed fitting (does the pipe bend first), and does any extra twisting force make a difference. Like the idea of half pressed bench assembly them crimp up fully once in situ. Assume the O rings will have the same potential issue as plastic(?). All said, looks like the future though of professional plumbing and right to keep copper in business. Really interested in 6 months time (apart from gas?) how much you are still soldering. Great start. P.S. for a newbie is it better to remove the battery before the jaw change. It must be much better for health than soldering.
I’m not a plumber but I think I might hire one of these and upgrade my radiator pipework to 15mm. Seems there is little risk of leaks whereas soldering is a skill.
Yep, completely agree hence me deciding to make some videos on it and see how I get on. Will be doing a lot of comparisons to see in the real world how it works out
I'm a press fit virgin too so thanks for sharing that mate. I tell you what though, you're going to have to be careful with quotes from here on in. Must be about £15 worth of fittings on that one piece? Does look clean and exciting though and as others have said, hot work permits and fire risks are out of the window. Cheers bud!
Not for me personally , based on the capital outlay . In addition that’s more hardware and fittings to carry in your van. But I respect anyone who wants to use that technique
The fittings I used have them bits on that only get removed once it’s pressed…. But the others yes you need to remember… It does leave a press mark so you can tell
Hello Mark, that's a lot of money for a Plumber doing mostly domestic installs but interested to see how you go with these press fit things. The only thing I noticed is you bought 45° bends..why? 😅😅
It's definitely an incredible bit of kit no doubt about it. Personally though, I find those fittings to be pig ugly and much prefer the look of properly done end feed fittings for pipes which are visible, under a worktop where no one gonna see them? Press fit all day baby but radiator drop going down a wall? Much prefer the end feed there. That price though is just stupid I'm sorry, I know I know they came up with something smart and useful and they gonna get every penny out of those patents as they can and so should they, and yeah for a plumber doing this day in day out hundreds of fittings a week it pays for itself after the first week jobbing, but £1200+ for what's essentially just a bit of metal and a hydraulic cylinder I'd have to put my card details in with my eyes closed and my heart would hit the floor after clicking that buy button. This kinda thing would be an absolute god send to DIYers but it's gonna be a long long long time before it's within their price range which is a bit of a shame really.
Hi Mark, I’m interested to see how you get on with the press fit setup. I know the fittings are expensive but it will be interesting to see a price comparison with endfeed. I’m sure press fit will have a place and some soldering will still be required. Another great film, the job appears to be coming along nicely now. Have a great rest of the week and take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
I don’t think I will invest in press fit. I’m 56 and been soldering since I was 16. Cheap n cheerful. The only place I would consider it is in a large commercial setting where the use of a naked flame is prohibited. In those instances, cost is not a concern.
Welcome to the dark side , the only advice i,d give through experience is to check for accessibility cos the jaws are a bit bulky esp on the rothenburger but as i said before they''re a great addition and water in the pipe = zero problem
Beginners guide to using Pressfit…..
This will be over a good few videos I think as I get to grips with pressfit, the fittings and just what it’s like to use day to day
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, like many installers on here that said they never would, i am now looking to make the move to press fit. I know a lot of the bigger sites will not allow soldering anymore so i guess blow lamps are going to become as demonised as my old diesel van has so we won't have any choice soon. Like yourself i have no previous experience on press fit so good to see how you got on. Enjoy the channel, Thanks, John
Thanks John….. I’ve definitely taken to press over the last year, infact I’m going to do a review of the last year using it very soon..
I was the person who said “ I’ll never use press fit “……fast forward 5 years…..90% of my installs done with press.
I’m interested to see just how I get on with it👍🏼👍🏼
I haven’t used solder since 2017
Hi Marky Mark ,saves so much time. Last year I was on a LST rad install on a school with carbon steel up to 80 Mil.down to 15 mil. No problems with hot works permits and fire extinguishers .I first used it in Germany 20 + years ago. I think you will find it indispensable once you get to grips.The main things are working in lofts no fire risks, water in pipes ( press that mother).Time saving too.Hope to see you at PHEX .If I’m not back in Venezuela.
Keep The Faith .London Paul.(Paramount Plumbing).
Thanks buddy…. I am looking to go to PHEX this year so would be great to say hello.
Yep getting to grips with it will be interesting I think👌🏼
Hi Mark,
little tips when you open the jaws you can just press one side down and they will open,
always tighten the drain offs as they’re not usually done up 100%
and now you’ve got Milwaukee 12v battery’s and charger have a look at the Milwaukee auto cutter and hacksaw makes life so much easier.
Keep up the good work.
Didn’t know that about the jaws👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Thanks buddy
Good to see this mark. Been waiting for this.
Hahaha…. A few people have I think😉
Real World plumbing view of press fit….. follow and see just how I get one with it
Get yourself some TH jaws and start using Mlcp, you can sack the push fit off. Been using press since I moved from uk to Oz. We run 3 mini Rems and a large Rothenberger gun. Largest I’ve done is a 100mm fire main.
Will have to look into this 👍🏼👍🏼
Appreciate this video, I’m going to take the plunge for the gun. 2 questions:
1, is it obvious where the jaws need to line up on the fittings?
2, is the button held and it finishes the cycle on its own or do yuubhave to de-trigger at the right time yourself?
Cheers mate
Thanks mate, they line up really easy and once the button is pressed and it begins you can let go and it will do its thing
@@MJTiffPlumbing appreciate this 💯
Great video. Id just say they do all types of fittings. If you can think of the fitting they usually do it but not everyone supplies the full range. A 22x15x22 would have been tighter for that DOC. You also will find when coming through a wall but the fitting is tight too the wall it will be hard to crimp so sometimes you have to crimp out of place. I always found how much cleaner crimp is than soldering. Wait until you are doing 108mm copper then that gets complicated as its 2 crimp heads. The next thing you will get is the milwaukee oipe cutter its game changer for install works.
Thanks buddy….👍🏼👍🏼 enjoying it so far
Plumber recently quoted to fit a new cylinder in our house . He tried to charge me significantly more to fit these fitting (over)quoting their reliability and the cost of the tools and fittings. He wasn't impressed when I reminded him ,right before I invited him to leave, that it cuts down significantly in fitting time.. and time is money .
Completely agree and indeed if he quoted you that’s what you pay….. no more no less
Considering buying a tapered drill for removing the edge that’s on the inside of your pipe after cutting. A stepped drill-bit is also a possibility. If you buy a bit look for the maxed size 20, those fit perfectly inside a 22 pipe. You’ll get less noise, less wear and better flow. 👍
That is a nice bit of kit. Would you increase your day rate/quotation cost to cover the cost of those fitting or is that offset against the time that gets saved?
Offset against the time to be honest👍🏼👍🏼
I’ve had a couple leak before and a tip I’ve got is to use a really thin piece of card or thick paper and repress them with that over the jaw. No manufacturer will tell you this but in the real world can get you out of a jam
Yes buddy…. Real world tips and tricks😉
Hi mate, little tip for you from holland. Once the the machine starts pressing, you can let go of the “go” button, and it stops automatic when its finished. Keep up the good work👌👍
These are the bits of info I was looking for… thanks buddy
No problem, learned a lot from your video’s as well. And get some sliding socks as well, very handy for repairs. Didn’t saw them in your case, only the ‘normal’ socks. ✌️
Very well explained .a good tool to use keep up with the good work. Well done mate.
Thanks mate
Looking great Mate, press is the way ahead.
Yer so I’m hearing however there is also a lot that are not keen….. so these videos will be great for showing the Real World side of it
Hi Mark. It just getting your head around the fact the it does work. Would you use it where it can be seen. Like going to rads in the lounge. It looks bigger than normal fittings. Seems quicker too. Have a good weekend 👍
These are the questions I’m going to be going over buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Welcome to the press revolution!!!
The plastic bit that you said "i dont know what that is" is a depth marking gauge for marking the fitting insertion depth
Top tips
Always plan ahead of your self so you can avoid fittings that the gun cant get into
Buy a reaming tool and take the sharp edge off the pipe so it doesn't catch/cut the o ring
When marking the depth cross mark it into the bit the fitting sits on so if you have a leaking fitting and the manufacturers want to cut it open to inspect it they can see you marked it before it was pressed
Tell your liability insurance company that your % of hot works is now less it could save you money
Keep up the good work with the uploads fab viewing as always
Thanks for the tips mate…. Much appreciated
Hi mark I have been pressing for a while, I love it, time saving and clean to use great when you have some water in the pipes or a valve that is letting by, I also use MLCP with press fittings which is flexible to a point but so much better than push fit!! I don’t like geberit M press tbh as the fittings do tend to slip about, I have started using Pegasus with the green ring as these are tight on the pipe so don’t fall off👍
Thanks buddy….. little tips like this is just what I’m after buddy, thanks
can you use press fittings to plastic barrier pipe?
After watchìng numerous video,s with press bun being used, i brought one and i love it.
However learning its limitations and the cost of fittings. But stil a very handy tool to my collection.
Great video
Gun not bun lol
Thanks mate…. Hopefully I will be able to share what I learn as I start to use it so people will know👍🏼👍🏼
I love my press gun. It's just a different way of thinking. A little tip I have is to plan your pipe run first. There will be some areas you can't get the gun in if you have already pressed pipes next to it if that makes sense. 👍👍👍
Cheers Gary…. Yep a few people have said to do that, just changes the way you look at some jobs
I use Pegasus press fittings (green ring instead of white) I find they grab the copper alot better when you push them on.
Will take a look at these buddy…. Be great to compare
Just think how handy the pressfit will be when you have a mare and can't get the water out of the pipes!! Look forward to seeing how you get on!
Yep that’s deffo one of its “pros”……. Looking forward to seeing how it goes
Hi mark ive been using press fit for about 2 years and never had any leaks. Love it now fittings wise there more expensive but time wise its so much faster. Keep up the good work buddy
Yep I think a lot of people are having that view 👍🏼👌🏼
Thanks for the video, i work for a large contractor and dont use anything but pressfit on the small bore stuff, i dont use it myself but wonder if they still recommend you clean the pipe as you would if it was soldered, top job as always
Interesting point….. I will find out
I’m a plumber for a firm who build car homes, 67-28mm is pressed and 15 and 22 we solder it works well
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How does it create a seal? and how long do they last? Not too sure I'd bet against soldering
Creates a seal when pressed and last years… been about 15/20years on the commercial side and maybe the last 7/8years domestically…..
Do they have angled jaws for this yet? Also can I ask why you chose nova over others like rems? Great vid
Yep…. Pressit-UK now do angle jaws for the Novapress…
I went for it as from what I heard it’s the best… and it’s spot on..
@@MJTiffPlumbing thanks. I used to be the type to buy every new gadget at drop of a hat but fast forward 5 years and 2 van break ins I’m now a lil more cautious about buying expensive gear. Will prob get nova now though and just add it to the stress 😆
Press fit looks a good bit of kit but i think i will stick to my blowlamp thanks for the update
Yep… each to there own, I was exactly of that mind set, but thought it would make great content for people to see…. And I might even prefer it after some time.. we will see
Horses for corses me thinks. How about showing one that leaks especially in a tight situation.👍
Check out the video where that happened
Hey Mark,
It's cool seeing you do these videos, press definitely saves lots of time with labor. There will be times where soldering will be more practical in certain situations and I'm assuming press fittings are more expensive, but in the long term of things especially if you want to cut down on labor then press is the way to go and I do recall a few people I know that usually go with pressing when it comes to service work so that is always an option there if you have to do repairs in the future too. Maybe, on situations where the fittings have the potential to come down like that, you can always put in a support with a pipe clamp?
Yep it’s all a learning curve and it will be great to show it on here for everyone to see….. 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice to see new tech, but I still love using end feeds cheaper, works better in tight spaces, and can always be unsoldered, unlike pressfit if you make a mistake.
Yep pros and cons to all these systems…. Giving it a go to show people what it’s like in the real world
@@MJTiffPlumbing Don't get me wrong really appreciate you giving it the time of day, it's just me old dog set in his ways, thanks for the vids love 'em all
Everyone..., ok most people I've seen that use the press uses it upside down where the trigger is upwards, you want to see the lights, it'll tell you if there was an issue. You can't see the lights if it's facing elsewhere, I'm sure this model swivels the head for more egro use.
Doesn’t really matter tbh 👍🏼👍🏼
Hello Tiff, do you know about the aquagas press fittings? It saves you having 2 lots of fittings for water and gas. You just need one fitting. Just thought you might want to know about them. Enjoy your new toy 👍
Yep I’ve been told about those…. Will be doing a video on all the makes etc soon 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi mark, the tails on the drain offs and street elbows are rather long but you can trim them down
Yes I hear you can…. They are quite long
Always consider using less T-joints, they restrict the flow. You could easy bend a 90 with an off-set. Or used a 22-15-22 T-joint with a male/female 90 on the end. The T-turn equals 5 meter of pipe, the bend only 1 meter.
You won’t regret it. I never solder these days. Press is fantastic
Also the geberit fittings are by far the best fittings. Don’t forget to dry grease the jaws and moving parts.
Thanks buddy….. looking forward to how I get on with it
Nice one Mark I’m sure the new Tool will be brilliant just one thing if you need to change a fitting how do you do that please show in next vid cheers
You have to cut it out and redo the pipework buddy.
Great video pal, definitely gunna jump in the press bandwagon after watching this 🙌
Hey mate, drop me a call before you do anything mate😉😉
Great video Mark!!
Thanks Ricky 🙌🏼🙌🏼👍🏼
Nice ! Juse watched a video where a guy removed the orings to prove its the copper that makes the connection! Metal on metal ! The O ring is a fail safe and helps grip the pipe....who knew?
I would always want the o ring to be in
Back when I was commercial new build only, the only thing pipe fitters were allowed was press fit, for the “no hot works” on sites reasons.
every job, no matter the company, always had to write their initials on the fittings so any leaks was on them to fix.
And they’d always press a bunch of fittings then draw the depth line on afterwards to make their bosses happy that they’d done it right 😂
Hahaha…. Putting there initials on is a good one, like that
I looked after a few sprinkler jobs in cpvc pipe (orange pipe). The connections were done using solvent cement but same process of marking the ends of the fittings and initialing the fitting, which was in manufacturer's instructions. Lasted about a day 😂. The lads worked with it that much they just know.
I press on installs 👍 I’ve got the Rems mini press and have the angled jaws which get into the awkward places
I’m looking forward to seeing what it’s like👌🏼👍🏼
Can you do a video with a comparison between press and tectite sprint and let us know what u think regarding appearance and viability for your day to day jobs and let us know what you think...
Will add it to the list buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Mark...
Great upload..
Like you im looking to make the 'Press fit switch'.
Recently i extended and altered some domestic and heating pipework in my nieces bathroom. The previous engineer ( they live too far for me to just pop in) used press fit. The cost her husband said for the heating pipes to the upstairs and downstairs was in his opinion quite high for the job involved, but i figured press fittings are not altogether cheap but timewise better???.
The only thing i didnt like was pipework on show in a decorated room looks quite ugly. The worst part was a decorative column living room radiator looked ugly due to the drain off being as youve stated ( long and an eyesore).
I ran the downstairs bathroom pipework and soldered using end feed, and they both commented on how much better the pipework looked😅
Anyway nate good luck and keep kerping it real..
I know exactly what your saying and that’s exactly my thinking aswell….
This is exactly why I have decided to find out for myself and make some content as a lot of people think the same way…. Will make for some great videos I think
Hi. do you have place where you send for calibration the press tool?
Pressit UK do calibrations buddy…. Check out the link below
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Pressit UK do calibrations buddy… check the link below
pressit.uk/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4MSzBhC8ARIsAPFOuyVlq_bn_cvv3W_TN-FBPhESho-NY5o2iWFWpnrmauW-l6wB15XVHHoaAnvoEALw_wcB
Press fit onto plastic with insert? Cant seem to find an answer online.
I would say no…… however could be well worth a video😉
Bought the same gun last year much prefer it to solder now. Also try direct plumbing supplies for you’re fittings by far the cheapest anywhere and quick delivery. You won’t look back now mate.
Thanks buddy will take a look👍🏼👍🏼
Just 1 tip make sure your pipe is Clean as plaster splatter and paint could effect the o ring sealing
Good advice buddy
I like using a press tool but you have to think ahead when working in a tight spot with fittings close together. You'll be pressing away then find a fitting where you can't get the tool in. Often you can't just switch to a soldered fitting because then you would be soldering too close to a fitting you've already pressed.
Yep you’ve got to plan a lot more… a few people have said that👍🏼
Excellent comment because if you go to a pressfitted job, with a soldering bag, occasionally you have to think around modifications because everything in vicinity is pressfitted, for example tmvs under a sink, pressfit excellent for occasional solderers like me, I would love a pressfit tool !!!! Always gonna be a job where they will be worth their weight in gold.
Love this mark well done 👍
Cheers Luke 👍🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I started to use press on pex before 15 years. I'm originally from Croatia and whole system came from Italy. Valsir and press gun was Rigid and manual one Valsir. I was surprised when I came here before 4 years and saw that plumbers don't use press as much as soldering. Unlike Europe here you have pex and copper 15 while in eu pex is 16 and fittings are not Interchangeable. Also I've noticed that js fittings fail all around. Rather use wiega or V system which have that small bit of pipe on other side. It's more stabile and solid than js fittings. I wish you a good luck and thumb up for chanel.
Thanks buddy…. Interesting to here your view 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video Mark on press fit, keep them coming 👍👍
Thanks mate…. Glad you liked it. Plenty more to come
Hi tiff pay you get a few unusual fittings like 22 22 15 tees 22 15 22 tees etc saves using reducers and also saves a bit of space
👍🏼👍🏼 yep will get some of them for the ever expanding trays 🤣
Another thing you want to be careful of is having a compression fitting to close to a pressed joint because the pipe goes a bit hexagonal
Hi mate compared to plastic shark bites these must be better.l plumbed in 20 metres of copper pipe in my under build in spain using 15 mm sharkbites.When l returned to Spain at Xmas the rats had chewed 6 fittings to get at the water that was left in the pipework.Luckily we always turned off the mains when we left each visit brilliant product l now use the manual presser cos l am a tight sod
Yep them rats are a pain buddy
I guess the elbows are swept to give you enough room to get the clamps on and at least holding up the pipes is no issue coz there's no red hot pipe burning your hands! lol....very tidy and much safer particularly in flammable zones although there will be access issues sometimes and you'll have to resort to push fit or sweating....
Indeed mate…. 👍🏼
great to see somebody using one for the first time ,,real life organic stuff eh ,, so tempted to buy one of these for a few pipes in my utility and another couple of jobs around the house later , but at starting prices of £1500 smackeroonys its a bit much for DIY i think i will just settle for the superfire2,,,,, looks great for trades though with lots of use No faff with water still in pipes ,, superb detailed video though
Thanks buddy 🙌🏼🙌🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Get a pressfit catalogue so you can see all the fittings they do! They have stuff you never even thought about before and will make your life easier
Good shout that mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Good video, a start to new things to come. How long warranty do you get with it, just the standard one year?
Thanks buddy….. to be honest I haven’t looked… and I really should do🤣
Will look tomorrow
All the press fit stuff is very expensive, especially the machines and the servicing. So what's the advantage compared to just using Tectite fittings?
I think the problem is on residential properties it's not worth it but on commercial way you've got a lot of pipework to do it makes more sense with the cost
Pros and cons to all systems….. I’m going to be going over it all in the next few months 👌🏼👍🏼
You have to remember the only seal is a rubber ring which deteriorate over a period of time, I had seven fail on a 6 year old heating system, you can’t beat soldering.
I agree…. Soldering is my preferred choice. However trying the pressfit side of things is going to be interesting
You have taken the plunge then 👍👍.
Another tool in your arsenal 👍. It will have its place doing your job .especially if you have a passing water valve. Don't have to worry about trying to solder the joints .
Looks good in use 👍👍
Indeed mate… time and a place for press it would seem
Loved the video 👍 but you didn’t debur the pipe after cutting 🤔.
Thanks mate….👍🏼👍🏼
And I’ve never debured a pipe in over 30years…… never had an issue
interesting video Mark but as I am 70 yrs old now don't do too much installation work just the odd oil boiler as I am still oftec came out of gas but looks a great bit of kit
Thanks mate, I’m still on the fence with it to be honest… but it’s good to try something new and see if it’s for me
PB’s recent video with Press UK was very interesting.
Warranty duration can be dependent on whether you sent back the warranty card or not.
Don’t you need to get them calibrated every year for insurance/warranty?
For sure more $$$ but time is ££ and also some homeowners appreciate not having the smell of solderin in the house
Indeed mate…. Spoke with Pete about the whole press fit thing👍🏼👍🏼
Don’t forget to hook your machine up to your Bluetooth too 😉😉😉😉
Hi Mark I'm not a plumber but wot makes it water tight do it like melt it together
It presses together…. Huge amount of force and the rubber seal….
Clever system
I use all dewalt tools and they make a press tool... in the USA and there's no 18v UK version of this. I'd buy it if it ever came to the UK
Wonder why it’s not a available here??
@@MJTiffPlumbing please can you ask a DeWalt rep if you ever meet one at a trade fair
Have to say it but you will be imPRESSED when you do a fill up and it dosent leak. Could be a game changer for you but a bit of a pain to change fittings when before you could unswet it. Thanks for the video Mark
I know people who have been using it for years and had zero leaks so it will be interesting to see how I get on👍🏼👍🏼
If the press fit did leak, how would you take them apart?
You can’t buddy…. That’s one of the cons of Pressfit…
I can feel I'm getting close to taking the plunge, just alot of money of course. Cheers Mark for the vid 👍🏻
Won't regret it!! If my novopress died I'd buy one straight away
Keep watching as I have a good bit of Press fit content cominh
Great honest video about using press fit for the first time. Just out of interest, do the fittings still spin like in a speed fit fitting ? Or are they pressed into a solid position?
Nope, you can't rotate them after pressing.
They press solid buddy…
Glad you liked the video….. will be doing a few as I get to grips with it
@@MJTiffPlumbing look forward to it. I’m on the edge of getting into it.
@@martinwright7093 thanks for answering that. Is it quite solid or could they easily twist ?
Proper solid mate…. You ain’t moving them….
See the link and my code for pressgun buddy😉
Hi Mark, on one of your video's, you talked about a tool insurance company, but i'm having trouble finding it. Any chance you could reply with the insurance company name please?
Hey buddy…
Rhino Trade Insurance, they do public liability and also tool insurance
Or
ARMD…. Download the app and upload your tools, then it gives you a cost to cover them👍🏼👍🏼
@@MJTiffPlumbing That's great, thanks for replying so quick. 👍
which press fit you use now?
Still use the Novapress 👌🏼👌🏼
Enjoyed the video, mate.
Looks good👍 👍
Thanks buddy
Made that seem effortless mate 👍 🤔 👌 worth the £1500 outlay ?
Yep I think so…..
You know you love it mate 😂😂😂. Welcome to press mate.
Hahahaa….. looking forward to seeing how it goes
can you use it on imperial pipe
No buddy
Good Man Mark
Your like a little apprentice again,
I’m sitting on the fence looking over the wall will I or won’t I get one,
Be very interested in seeing how you get on with it,
Good introduction on your first day pressing
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Hahaha….. exactly how I felt mate… 100%
Yep exactly why I want to make this content for people like you, as I was EXACTLY the same so thought I would do it and film it👍🏼
Where is the work table from and how much was it?
It’s brilliant buddy…. Screwfix and it was £50….
Thanks for that mate will have a look 👍
Is the benefit purely time saved? Soldering is pretty quick. I guess you get a cleaner finish…..but will the average customer notice? Still - nice to have a new tool :)
Guess it’s time, no hot works and general ease of working….. but soldering is just as simple….
Hence I thought I would get one and make some content with it👍🏼👍🏼
Xwhere link to get a press fit please
Pressituk 👍🏼👍🏼
So you bit the bullet.... You'll be glad with it bud.
The thing I would say is: make sure you plan the pipes layout, because it might obstruct the press later on.
Yep a lot of people have said that and it’s great advice…. This are the things I need to find out👍🏼👍🏼
Great video. Blimey, think my plumbing days are over as I'll never afford a gun, and it looks like the future(?). Is it acceptable behind a plastered wall. Interesting question: what's the pull off force on a completed fitting (does the pipe bend first), and does any extra twisting force make a difference. Like the idea of half pressed bench assembly them crimp up fully once in situ. Assume the O rings will have the same potential issue as plastic(?). All said, looks like the future though of professional plumbing and right to keep copper in business. Really interested in 6 months time (apart from gas?) how much you are still soldering. Great start. P.S. for a newbie is it better to remove the battery before the jaw change. It must be much better for health than soldering.
I’m still getting used to it all but it has its pros and cons to be honest.
It’s fine behind walls and under floors etc
I’m not a plumber but I think I might hire one of these and upgrade my radiator pipework to 15mm. Seems there is little risk of leaks whereas soldering is a skill.
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Looks cool, at that price + the cost of fittings not convinced you'll ever make the money back though. Interested to follow along and see how it goes!
Yep, completely agree hence me deciding to make some videos on it and see how I get on.
Will be doing a lot of comparisons to see in the real world how it works out
You will get your money back and more in time and shere convenience
I'm a press fit virgin too so thanks for sharing that mate. I tell you what though, you're going to have to be careful with quotes from here on in. Must be about £15 worth of fittings on that one piece? Does look clean and exciting though and as others have said, hot work permits and fire risks are out of the window. Cheers bud!
Think it adds upto £8.40 👍🏼👍🏼
Not for me personally , based on the capital outlay .
In addition that’s more hardware and fittings to carry in your van.
But I respect anyone who wants to use that technique
Yep, I was very much on your thinking and still am to a degree…. Hence getting one to make some videos on and show it in a real world environment 👍🏼
Looks great, I guess you just have to make a mental note to press it so you don't miss one?
The fittings I used have them bits on that only get removed once it’s pressed…. But the others yes you need to remember…
It does leave a press mark so you can tell
Look ok only time will tell 👍👍👍👍
Indeed buddy…. Will be an interesting journey
Hello Mark, that's a lot of money for a Plumber doing mostly domestic installs but interested to see how you go with these press fit things.
The only thing I noticed is you bought 45° bends..why? 😅😅
I didn’t buy them specifically….. they came in the fittings pack, apparently it’s a “pressfit” thing🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️…. I have a bender so should be fine 😉
I'm not a plumber but I bet after a few weeks that will be the first tool you reach for.
I think you could be right
It's definitely an incredible bit of kit no doubt about it.
Personally though, I find those fittings to be pig ugly and much prefer the look of properly done end feed fittings for pipes which are visible, under a worktop where no one gonna see them? Press fit all day baby but radiator drop going down a wall? Much prefer the end feed there.
That price though is just stupid I'm sorry, I know I know they came up with something smart and useful and they gonna get every penny out of those patents as they can and so should they, and yeah for a plumber doing this day in day out hundreds of fittings a week it pays for itself after the first week jobbing, but £1200+ for what's essentially just a bit of metal and a hydraulic cylinder I'd have to put my card details in with my eyes closed and my heart would hit the floor after clicking that buy button.
This kinda thing would be an absolute god send to DIYers but it's gonna be a long long long time before it's within their price range which is a bit of a shame really.
I agree with so much of what you’ve said buddy👍🏼👍🏼
I cannot understand the Mainia about Pushfit, alright it's fast but if you want to alter anything it's a nightmare, NO pushfit for Me
You mean Pressfit….😉
Plastered the floors, too, looking at it 😅
Soaks up the leaks 🤣🤣😉
Hi Mark, I’m interested to see how you get on with the press fit setup.
I know the fittings are expensive but it will be interesting to see a price comparison with endfeed.
I’m sure press fit will have a place and some soldering will still be required.
Another great film, the job appears to be coming along nicely now.
Have a great rest of the week and take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
Thanks Chris…
Yep I will always solder however looking forward to making some pressfit content for everyone to see what it’s like in the Real World
Is that a teenage mutant turtle in the van with you?
🤷🏼♂️???
Mark tiff has broken his press fit cherry 😂🎉
Hahahaha….. yep……. Let’s see how it goes😉
I don’t think I will invest in press fit. I’m 56 and been soldering since I was 16. Cheap n cheerful. The only place I would consider it is in a large commercial setting where the use of a naked flame is prohibited. In those instances, cost is not a concern.
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I don’t think I would trust putting it where I couldn’t get back to the fitting! Under concrete flooring etc
All comes down to how confident your are with the way it’s works I guess👍🏼
Welcome to the dark side , the only advice i,d give through experience is to check for accessibility cos the jaws are a bit bulky esp on the rothenburger but as i said before they''re a great addition and water in the pipe = zero problem
Thanks mate….. yep a lot of people have said to plan a lot more👍🏼👍🏼