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I'm glad Brady was able to give them an opportunity to set the record straight to a mainstream audience. I'm sure it must be frustrating to have your work widely misrepresented.
He is inspirational. I never liked the idea of classroom teaching in my life but his lectures changed me. He starts from the very basics and takes you to a research level.
অর্ণব প্রিয় দা, জানিনা এই কমেন্ট তোমার চোখে পড়বে কি না, আমি তোমার স্কুলে পড়তাম, তোমার থেকে দুই বছরের ছোট, তুমি বাংলা মাধ্যম স্কুল কে বিশ্বের মানচিত্র জায়গা করে দিলে। তোমাকে অশেষ ধন্যবাদ
@@alien9209 We do learn a lot in school, depending on what you consider as 'learning' And 'medium do not matter' is a realisation that you reach at a later stage in life. A lot of us get bullied for not being able to speak proper/fluent English while growing up and it leads up to a lot of insecurities. And those doesn't go away easily in absence of external validation. A "Bengali Medium" senior, reaching a position of importance help others with insecurities. Visibility matters
What a pleasure to see this interview of two outstanding examples of scientists who are obviously very learned in their field who remain personable and honest to the ideals of the scientific method. In business, it is often stated that all publicity - intentional or unintentional - is still publicity. Perhaps Science needs to give in that philosophy in these times of click-bait, popularity, and social “media” we now all unfortunately find ourselves in.
I have to admire these guys for their dedication and their admission that string theory isn’t a testable hypothesis yet. I love meeting other high-energy physicists, and I dearly wish I could write to them
Glad you made the effort to interview these guys to dig deeper into the string theory part of the story. Not many people have looked into it that deeply, beyond the surface-level story about Pi. Great job, Brady!
Thank you for helping them share their story. I have deep respect for these physicists. I think theres a trend of science, math and physics becoming increasingly abstract and esoteric while simultaneously the education standards here in the US continue to decline. The result is a growing mistrust among the average people of science in general, we saw this explode during covid. As this mis-trust continues to grow I think we need a renewed effort to help average people globally connect with our great minds like Saha and Sinha. We need more communicators and networks for communication to connect the most abstract advanced research with the most common denominator in order to spread trust as much as possible to the greatest number of people. Its difficult to simplify things but its also part of the communication process and we need the general population to understand the importance of work like this as this work becomes increasingly impactful on our everyday lives. The more alienated the gen pop is from science and math, the greater the distrust and greater the resistence to advancement.
12:35 So many years of studying mathematics and today I realized that Euler was Swiss not German. xD Maybe because he solved the issue of Seven Bridges of Königsberg I always thought that he is German. :P
The only reason it feels like there is some invisible hand that is trying to show you the right way is that these people are so humble that they cannot believe that they figured it out on their own.
I think that it's very exciting that we now have a pi formula that has a parameter that can be any number even if it's a side product of String Theory investigation. It could open up new ways to look into pi and understand it better or even calculate it better.
12:00 Even Aryabhatta has found finite difference scheme for expressing sin values. He was 1000 yrs before Madhava. Anyway, I used to think Euler was French until now 😂😂
An excellent interview. Nice to hear directly from the researchers. Not surprised by the exaggerations of course, but great both in this video and your earlier video the record was clearly stated. The joy of finding things out, or however exactly it was stated, have to agree that's a pretty darned good reason for researching anything, regardless of one's level.
"...and he wanted to send it to some of his mathematician friends, and it turned out that one of them was Terence Tao..." Your heart would simply stop.
Fellow Bengali statistics major here. West Bengal, India has probably some of the best people for mathematical research but some of the worst infrastructure.
Maybe in the future their formula for computing π with high accuracy and many digits will be better remembered than their article's overall contribution to the string theory.
I just went and read the article Sinha wrote. It has all the details you need to play with these formulas on your computer. I have not read the paper yet though.
String theory is an intellectual pursuit to explain nature. It may yield the truth, it may not but at least new mathematical tools are being invented or discovered which can or may be used in other branches of science to reveal more of nature. Best wishes to everyone in the pursuit of the truth and my only wish is that we keep our ego’s in check. 😂
It occurs to me that as a formula might hope to better approximate a transcendental number, as a journalist, Brady might hope to create a story that better approximates the truth of the formula's discovery.
HAHAHHAHAHAHA omg. Amazing. These guys are SO nice. THey think "misreporting" is too strong a word while they had to refute the statement that claimed they were going to "revolutionize the whole field of mathematics." If anything, misreporting is a MASSIVE understatement. Holy hell. Im dead hahaha
I got a bit emotional when I heard that lambda can be a complex number! How?! I want to see how the size of the error varies for different values across the complex plane when an increasing number of terms are included in the series expansion for pi.
The main video: ruclips.net/video/nXexsSWrc1Q/видео.html
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Numberphile's Pi Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PL4870492ACBDC2E7C
No way you uploaded this on 22/7 🤯
What a lovely observation ❤
In the US, he released on 7/22, a well-known approximation for 1 / π
@@JasonSmith0 🤣
now that you say!
That's blasphemous. We shouldn't be talking about the rational approximation.
They speak like true scientists.
Without claims beyond the results of their work .
Good for them
I'm glad Brady was able to give them an opportunity to set the record straight to a mainstream audience. I'm sure it must be frustrating to have your work widely misrepresented.
I am unaware of any controversy, could you elaborate on this 'misrepresentation'?
@@everlearner8974 no, that is precisely why i asked @jwolfe01234 to share what he knows
@@vatsalsharma4879 they gave a short explanation in the video itself.
@@everlearner8974what?
@@janeydoe7417 don't remember why I made that comment. Deleted it.
That's how researchers should be;humble.
it occurs naturally when you care about your topic more than money
He is inspirational. I never liked the idea of classroom teaching in my life but his lectures changed me. He starts from the very basics and takes you to a research level.
@@PrakharrChaubeyyes they are , many fake observations now to get fame
thats how everyone should be...
@@Giantcrabz thankfully, the majority of researchers *are* like that
Sinha and Saha , both are so humble and so dedicated to science. Great interview
They are doing great work 👍🏽
He is my professor at University. He taught me math method of physics last year!
Hi 👽
Lol we're all here at the same place
which university does he teach?
@@satoru.nakata indian institute of science i think
Yessir@@optimisticexquisite6534
অর্ণব প্রিয় দা, জানিনা এই কমেন্ট তোমার চোখে পড়বে কি না, আমি তোমার স্কুলে পড়তাম, তোমার থেকে দুই বছরের ছোট, তুমি বাংলা মাধ্যম স্কুল কে বিশ্বের মানচিত্র জায়গা করে দিলে।
তোমাকে অশেষ ধন্যবাদ
Medium doesn't matter , We learn nothing in school, I was from Bengali medium too
@@alien9209
We do learn a lot in school, depending on what you consider as 'learning'
And 'medium do not matter' is a realisation that you reach at a later stage in life.
A lot of us get bullied for not being able to speak proper/fluent English while growing up and it leads up to a lot of insecurities. And those doesn't go away easily in absence of external validation.
A "Bengali Medium" senior, reaching a position of importance help others with insecurities.
Visibility matters
@@Sandeepan science e medium noi logic ta besi important
String theory te medium ta immaterial :).
@@junk2k06 নিঃসন্দেহে, কমেন্ট টা সে প্রসঙ্গে নয়
Good job getting them into an interview. Pretty awesome dude.
I like the deep dive into this. Fascinating subject and great interview!
his name is Sinh(a) ? Best name ever for PI-oneer, huh ? :D
too much to process 😂
😂😂😂😂
That's his surname. Sinha and Saha are Bengali surnames.
@@Top10PrimeTV you clearly did not understand what he's trying to say.
@@RigelVision I did, buddy, but I also had a social responsibility.
It's great that actual authors got a spotlight to explain their work.🎉
What a pleasure to see this interview of two outstanding examples of scientists who are obviously very learned in their field who remain personable and honest to the ideals of the scientific method. In business, it is often stated that all publicity - intentional or unintentional - is still publicity. Perhaps Science needs to give in that philosophy in these times of click-bait, popularity, and social “media” we now all unfortunately find ourselves in.
I have to admire these guys for their dedication and their admission that string theory isn’t a testable hypothesis yet. I love meeting other high-energy physicists, and I dearly wish I could write to them
Aninda Sinha is a very good teacher also( he taught us mathematical physics)
proud to be his student
Great man, great researcher.
You are doing bleeding edge work. Thank you for your dedication. Media will always over simplify. Please keep up your excellent work!
Glad you made the effort to interview these guys to dig deeper into the string theory part of the story. Not many people have looked into it that deeply, beyond the surface-level story about Pi. Great job, Brady!
Thank you for helping them share their story. I have deep respect for these physicists. I think theres a trend of science, math and physics becoming increasingly abstract and esoteric while simultaneously the education standards here in the US continue to decline. The result is a growing mistrust among the average people of science in general, we saw this explode during covid. As this mis-trust continues to grow I think we need a renewed effort to help average people globally connect with our great minds like Saha and Sinha. We need more communicators and networks for communication to connect the most abstract advanced research with the most common denominator in order to spread trust as much as possible to the greatest number of people.
Its difficult to simplify things but its also part of the communication process and we need the general population to understand the importance of work like this as this work becomes increasingly impactful on our everyday lives. The more alienated the gen pop is from science and math, the greater the distrust and greater the resistence to advancement.
I studied 'Mathematical Methods of Physics' with this professor at IISc. He's amazing!!!
Fantastic interview and good that they got given the opportunity to explain the true purpose of the paper :)
Super important to give context to their work. Very cool video!
They seem like very practical guys who have the right mindset to make real advances in the field.
Very humble people, doing great work in one of India's leading institutes in research, IISC Bangalore.
Aninda Sinha is a prof at my University 😂
Cool guy and obviously very smart
12:35 So many years of studying mathematics and today I realized that Euler was Swiss not German. xD Maybe because he solved the issue of Seven Bridges of Königsberg I always thought that he is German. :P
I thought h was French
Well, he spent a great deal of his career in Prussia.
Well, at least he was from the German part of Switzerland.
Great men made great discoveries. And this feels me so optimistic about humankind. We are better than wars, fights and idiocracy
The only reason it feels like there is some invisible hand that is trying to show you the right way is that these people are so humble that they cannot believe that they figured it out on their own.
What a great interview! Please do more like these Brady!
Going to visit IISc soon. Can't wait to meet them in person🔥
Send them regards
So cool! Some of the string theory went over my head, but I’m glad you got to do this interview
their work is deep enough that “pi was just a byproduct” … nice!
Mind your decisions is a fun channel
I think that it's very exciting that we now have a pi formula that has a parameter that can be any number even if it's a side product of String Theory investigation. It could open up new ways to look into pi and understand it better or even calculate it better.
Great Interview!
Truly scientific minds. Wonderful to hear from them.
A brilliant interview Brady!
And Sinha and Saha's answers were on point!
It was indeed a major breakthrough by IISc Researchers . A very glad thing u know.
What great person! Thanks for showing.
Great interview, congrats two both of the scientist at the helm of this stir up in the mathematical community. 🙂
12:00 Even Aryabhatta has found finite difference scheme for expressing sin values. He was 1000 yrs before Madhava. Anyway, I used to think Euler was French until now 😂😂
Thank you for interviewing such humble researchers
Thanks a lot for this interview, clearing out the misinterpretations!
Wonderful content 💙 what a lovely interview.
A great crossover interview - math and physics.
Brilliant interview Brady!
And one of the best string theory presentations ever. Starts at 14:30
❤
An excellent interview. Nice to hear directly from the researchers. Not surprised by the exaggerations of course, but great both in this video and your earlier video the record was clearly stated.
The joy of finding things out, or however exactly it was stated, have to agree that's a pretty darned good reason for researching anything, regardless of one's level.
Humble pi. ❤
Interesting interview and great job from the interviewees :)
Thanks for making this video, Brady. I really enjoed watching it and I thing it is a stellar piece of Journalism. 👍
Finally an Indian came in Numberphile
There've been few Indians in the past.
Great answer about how we never correlate Euler with Switzerland, so why do the same with Ramanujan. It can get too parochial sometimes
Why did I get notification for this video?
I haven't even seen this channel before now, leave alone subscription or the bell
I don't even like math...
You are the chosen one !!!
Once in a while, the Great Math Oracle chooses a lucky muggle
"...and he wanted to send it to some of his mathematician friends, and it turned out that one of them was Terence Tao..."
Your heart would simply stop.
I love it when Arnab’s face lights up
I can't understand much of the maths or physics, but this interview has been a joy to watch
Fellow Bengali statistics major here.
West Bengal, India has probably some of the best people for mathematical research but some of the worst infrastructure.
😔
Remarkable people, remarkable work !
what a nice conversation, all intelligent humble personalities
Good to be told about this progress toward empirical testability of string/M-theory!👏👍
Maybe in the future their formula for computing π with high accuracy and many digits will be better remembered than their article's overall contribution to the string theory.
Awesome discussion!
I wish this channel can give me an opportunity to show the world how I have proven the Collatz Conjecture using basic algebra.
Immortal Quotes : "Global Scientist" "Science comes first"
knowledge (pie) humbles humanity
Very cool!
Great interview
I just took it as another way Pi is like a golden rule number that is represented in the most basic forms of matter energy interaction aspects.
5:48 Love Brady's gestures
Finally, Presh Talwakar getting commended on numberphile!
this anarchist stands with y'all against the media blitz. Math and Pi and peace are the birthright of all
Great job from you guys
Glad this will go mainstream
I've had luck with using lambda as a function instead of a constant, and I'm excited to see what other people come up with!
You mean as a function of n?
This is an excellent video, thanks for this
I just went and read the article Sinha wrote. It has all the details you need to play with these formulas on your computer. I have not read the paper yet though.
Genius title... I see what you did there.
Appreciated ❤️🙏🇮🇳
Thank you for following up with them.
As a bengali i feel proud as both of them are bengali
Brilliant guys👍👍
Super cool stuff🎉🎉
Really like these guys. Couldn’t be cooler
It’s like they are the Penn and Teller of maths
String theory is an intellectual pursuit to explain nature. It may yield the truth, it may not but at least new mathematical tools are being invented or discovered which can or may be used in other branches of science to reveal more of nature. Best wishes to everyone in the pursuit of the truth and my only wish is that we keep our ego’s in check. 😂
It occurs to me that as a formula might hope to better approximate a transcendental number, as a journalist, Brady might hope to create a story that better approximates the truth of the formula's discovery.
I do hope they have well deserved pies after all that hard work
14:17
Lol. I'm pretty sure Aninda did pretty much of the work.
😂
Physicists just being physicists
proud of them!
these are cool guys
what is the math stackexchange post? I would like to take a look
a/474323
Fascinating!
Presh Talwaker is the one I saw
"Life of Pi" redefined!
Quantum physics will reveal more surprising patterns in number theory
Feels like that keeps happening!
I would say number theory will reveal surprising patterns in Quantum physics.
HAHAHHAHAHAHA omg. Amazing. These guys are SO nice. THey think "misreporting" is too strong a word while they had to refute the statement that claimed they were going to "revolutionize the whole field of mathematics." If anything, misreporting is a MASSIVE understatement. Holy hell. Im dead hahaha
you meant, it is more than just mere exaggeration?
@@mindfullness7777 exaggeration would be much less than "revolutionize an academic fields with millions of total man hours of dedication behind it"
why is this video delisted?
Secondary videos like this are always unlisted for the first day or two so they are not served to subscribers before the primary video.
Ha, great title. Can’t believe I never saw it before. Clever
This is Big. They've made history.
Loved the interview
I was happy when I found that 3020^(1/7) is only -4.3/100000 from the excel 15 position PI.
Hes being too cautious i think. He should enjoy the fame a little more, but i guess its hard for researchers 😂
I got a bit emotional when I heard that lambda can be a complex number! How?! I want to see how the size of the error varies for different values across the complex plane when an increasing number of terms are included in the series expansion for pi.