This is Astonishing - Zoom Multistomp - is it any Good?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2023
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  • @RobCowie
    @RobCowie Год назад +49

    I've got the MS70CDR and the best part about these pedals is that they can be flashed to custom firmware which allows you to add whichever effects you want to within the limitations of the onboard memory from any of the Zoom Multistomp lines, and the 70CDR is stereo I/O unlike the others.

    • @THINJIMI
      @THINJIMI Год назад +3

      I bought the CDR to run with my Strymon Iridium and was so pleased I ordered the Multi-Stomp, and loved it all on it’s own! I put my Iridium to the side!

    • @christianpaulroldan4010
      @christianpaulroldan4010 8 месяцев назад +1

      I did the same to my ms50g

    • @mohitrahaman
      @mohitrahaman 5 месяцев назад

      @@THINJIMI how are the ampsims with the custom firmware compared to the iridium.

    • @THINJIMI
      @THINJIMI 5 месяцев назад

      @@mohitrahaman - The Iridium tones are better. (price tag is also much higher) The Zoom is noticeably less quality in their models, but the overall experience with a large quantity of effects and user interface, is the best you can get for $120! Now, what I did was get the Iridium for your tones, and run it through a Zoom MS-70CDR that has just the effects, if you can afford to do that.) That’s a nice rig for the money, and only 2 units!

  • @jimamsden
    @jimamsden Год назад +20

    I do have an MS-50G. I use it on my analog pedalboard to fill in a few effect gaps in my signal chain. My first experience with digital multi-effects units were the ZOOM 9002 and ZOOM 9010 back in the early to mid 90's. ZOOM were way ahead of the pack.

  • @dada1952
    @dada1952 Год назад +16

    I have 2 of these and they are insanely good not just for the price but good period. The key to really utilizing these pedals to their full capacity is to use the Zoom Effects Manager and the ZoomTone Lib applications that are free downloads, they connect to your computer via usb. This way you can completely customize the pedals to be exactly how you want them to work for you. I delete a bunch of effects I don't use or need and that gets rid of clutter. I then setup the effects in order as to what is most used for me A-Z. You can save files of presets so it is easy to restore different setups.
    I basically have both setup primarily for the time based and mod effects. This is where they shine IMO. Some of the Delays are insanely good as are the Chorus and Reverb effects. I have a closet of standard stomp boxes which still have their place but having one of these on your board allows you to have almost anything at your fingertips. At first I was a little frustrated but after an hour or so the lightbulb goes off and then they become easy as any standard stomp box to tweak.

  • @bennettskb555
    @bennettskb555 Год назад +5

    Pleased to see you do this review Jonathan, I have this unit in my gig bag as a small ‘backup’/rescue unit to my line 6 Stomp XL. Very underrated, it’s quite amazing the range of sound’s available.
    Cheers, oh yeah, congratulations to you and yours👍

  • @danbecker4925
    @danbecker4925 Год назад +20

    I got an MS 50G early in my pedal journey and it was a great choice - got to try out a ton of different effect styles AND it made trying different pedal order super easy and very affordable - both really useful when learning how to use effects.

    • @THINJIMI
      @THINJIMI Год назад +2

      I overlooked it as it is so inexpensive. As an afterthought, I bought it and it blows my mind! Easy to use, and great tone right out of the box!

  • @jazzylei143
    @jazzylei143 Год назад +12

    Finally. Thanks a lot brother for taking your time on digging this bad boy. I've been using this as my all in one rig direct to the PA system almost every other week. More video please ☺️. Try the auto wah it's one of the best tracking envelope filters out there. 😉☺️

  • @Truthasvictim
    @Truthasvictim Год назад +4

    I've had this since it came out an it's a fantastically useful pedal. First, you can order the pedals in whatever order you want,it's stereo in and out, the Detune is great as are a couple of the studio type compressors. Let alone having the immediate tuner. You can often pay $100 or way more just for a tuner! Someone said it needed tap delays finction, but it does thave that too by changing what the tap switch does. Look at page 18 in the manual for how to do that. Edit- I forgot about the noise gate and stupidly bought one before remembering/realizing the Zoom has an excellent one built in, so another one for the buy and sell.

  • @writewheel
    @writewheel Год назад +2

    I have one and it is paired with an EHX headphone amp. In the winter, when my music "room" is too cold to heat, I play this and enjoy it wired into a small JBL bluetooth speaker. It was a stealth travel rig for practicing on my last trip. Still have my 9002, but it died and never got around to sending it to a guy I found who fixes them...loved the sound when it came out.

  • @DataCommando
    @DataCommando Год назад +3

    For quite a long time I have had a Zoom MS-70CDR pedal (along with a Mooer Ocean Machine), to patch into the FX Loops on my Line 6 Helix, simply to add things that are still not available on the Helix - example: DigiTech RV-7 (Lexicon) Reverse Reverb setting. Great fun, and inexpensive bit of gear for absolutely anyone, not just those on a budget. Lots of synth players use this Zoom stuff.

  • @rutger4131
    @rutger4131 Год назад +1

    I've been wondering about these for a long time. Thanks for the demo. The are pretty popular with synths.

  • @ClearTheDeck
    @ClearTheDeck 10 месяцев назад +1

    Welcome to the rabbit hole! These pedals are great. I have two MS-50G's on my board -- one for dry effects, the other for wet -- plus a blender pedal to mix dry/wet however I like. This arrangement gives even more flexibility, such as EQ'ing the wet effects separately, etc. I find that I can dial in just about any sound I want, given enough time. You really have to spend the hours to dial in your effect chains. But I guess that's true with analog pedals as well.

  • @SuperCMO79
    @SuperCMO79 Год назад +3

    For the better part of 2 years I've settled on using the ZOOM G6 Multi Effects pedal as my main effects pedal for effects.
    I connect it using the 4 Cable method to my amps and run it with modelling off and as my all in one pedalboard.
    It even takes boosts/overdrives really good when running before the input of the amp!
    I've seen these and have flirted with the idea of using one but decided to build my pedal board of indivual stompboxes as an alternative to the all in one effects of the G6 but these are really really cool and a no brainer for the price!

  • @tonyhills2112
    @tonyhills2112 Год назад +2

    It’s a great little pedal, I’ve had one for a few years now. I’ve got an HX Stomp on my main board and this on a “mini” 2nd board. Cool little pedal!

  • @blairmichaelhogan4502
    @blairmichaelhogan4502 Год назад

    It’s always a good day when a great player discovers these little gems! The MS-70 has been a staple Swiss Army knife pedal on all my rigs for years now and at this point I couldn’t live without it. I tend to keep mine in the cycle preset mode, with about 15 presets saved. Since I use the very subtle and musical ZNR noise reduction, I keep every second preset a blank with just that subtle gate on it. Then every alternate preset is an effect or chain of effects that all start with the ZNR as well (mostly particle verb based pads, extra delays, Leslie/mod sounds etc). That way every press of the switch cycles me back to a ‘clean’ preset, and as long as I don’t save too many I can navigate them easily enough since they start over once you reach the end of your list. It’s the perfect compliment to any rig where you’ve got your favourites doing the heavy lifting and just need ‘fill in the blank’ once in a while!

    • @blairmichaelhogan4502
      @blairmichaelhogan4502 Год назад

      Also (since I’m already gushing on this pedal anyways), while I’d say this thing excels at ambience and combining effects, some of the normal stuff is great too. The Tremolo, CE-1 emulation, Vibrato (really nice), Univibe, Tape Echo, reverse delay (with full wet mix, low repeats, super slow tap subdivision) and many other delays and verbs are all perfectly useable to stellar. The thing that puts it over the top is getting two effects with different tap tempo values on the same switch. My El Cap stopped working once and while it was getting fixed I simply set up a patch with two tape echos in series and set the first to 16th note tap, and the second to dotted 8th with a longer repeat. In a pinch I had my galloping Hank Marvin delay. Even some of the amp sims on the 50g are perfectly good (especially the Fender Twin). If you turn off the cab sims and use IRs they are way better than they have any business being! Plus there’s a hack now that lets you put any effect or amp sim from one model into any other - ie amp and cabs into the MS-70 and certain fancy reverbs from the 70 into the 50g etc.
      All that, plus a useable tuner and the mighty particle reverb, and there’s no reason every guitarist shouldn’t have one around. I’d even argue that at 40 bucks used, the older, cheap plastic Zoom G1on (which is essentially an MS-50 in plastic with an added headphone amp and drum machine synced to a looper) is a far superior practice tool to just about any modern modelling device!

  • @peteharland8328
    @peteharland8328 11 месяцев назад +1

    They are great, and been around for about 10 years! I love em!!

  • @rockinfreakappotomus
    @rockinfreakappotomus Год назад

    I've been eager to see you try this one out. I know someone on here has been asking you to for a while. I use one of these in the loop of my EHX SuperEgo to add effects to the freeze signal. Such a great sounding and way underrated pedal. You made it sound awesome!

  • @barakados
    @barakados Год назад +2

    Great sonud, mate!!! I have ms70CDR and MS50G, love both of them. It's a pity than in bigger stompbox Zoom reduce the parameter of some effects to fit with the 4 physical buttons. In these 2, with the page system you can manage 9 parameters in Ice delay, Particle Reverb and others, in the new stompboxes only 4 parameters are available. Can't believe it.

  • @methiumsmusic
    @methiumsmusic Год назад +1

    Just bought this lil beast last week, thanks to your vid. Killer

  • @g43s
    @g43s Год назад

    I got mine last year, it was the best purchase ever. i love being able to have so many tones and crazy ass patches in a single pedal.

  • @dustsculpture
    @dustsculpture Год назад +5

    I really liked the MS-70CDR which has the emulations of eventide space and strymon bluesky.

  • @DGGriffinMusic
    @DGGriffinMusic Год назад +1

    All time favorite pedal!
    Try the ZNR at the front of the chain as a noise suppressor. The Mod Verb is one of my favorites also.
    Another cool feature is it can do subdivisions and tap tempo.

  • @texdoberman4980
    @texdoberman4980 Год назад +2

    If you skip the intro, you miss the real amazing part. Bravo, sir! I have the bass version (Ice Delay ftw)), As with most FX, you have to have good monitor and watch your gains/volumes.

  • @low_e_music
    @low_e_music Год назад +1

    One very nice thing is that it works well with both line and instrument level fx loops.

  • @renaldojaramillogaviria535
    @renaldojaramillogaviria535 Год назад +2

    I have the zoom ms70 cdr because of his stereo inputs & outputs. That series of multistomp Is a no brainer for his price. Also, you can load More effects with zoom effects manager load. I use it for my keyboard and as the last pedal of my signal Chaín for modulations, delays, reverbs, some EQs, filters.

  • @brianbivens6476
    @brianbivens6476 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have a board with the stryfecta, compadre, riverside, deco and iridium (all midnight). It is an amazing pedal board. I play weekly leading worship at church, but this pedal is what I use either as a backup, or for outdoor services (battery powered).
    If I could only have only one pedal, this is it. The MS50 is seriously underrated. I can get tones comparable to what I have with my $3500 Strymon board.
    I always recommend this to someone playing on a budget. Perfect first pedal to introduce people to effects, and you never outgrow it.

  • @neilwarden
    @neilwarden Год назад +1

    I've had one of to these for years. I've used it as a wild card in a cut down pedal board. The trem,chorus,phaser are good so is the fuzz. I've even recorded di with the fuzz and fender deluxe. The Fender clean DI is pretty average but all in all its a great swiss army knife. And it will last a gig on batteries. Not all Zoom FX are equal, I swear by the A3 for my Weissenborn live, built like a tank but it's a head nip to navigate. I also have a G6 which is good but it's no Helix or Keeper. Great back up gear though. Love your videos duder, nice intonation and phrasing.

  • @kittyhooch1
    @kittyhooch1 Год назад +3

    My first multi effects device was the Zoom 9001 that sat on my guitar strap. I think it was the first thing Zoom made. I had a lot of their recorders. I have a Helix now and love it. I'm thinking this might be intriguing to use in an effects loop. Zoom does interesting stuff.

    • @QuikdethDeviantart
      @QuikdethDeviantart Год назад +1

      Actually the 9002 (ironically) was their first guitar effects unit a full 2 years before they released the 9001 (go figure 🤷); Both were strap clippable. I had the 9030 half rack unit back in ‘91… I was sold on it by flipping thru the “demo” settings… I never could quite figure out how to get it to work with an amp without sounding like bees scraping nails on a chalkboard, but thru headphones it was glorious. I recall some effects were ahead of their time (your guitar could say “yaah yaah yaah” lol). I know some big artists used them back in the day…. Cool stuff!

  • @brianbivens6476
    @brianbivens6476 Год назад +2

    The MS50G is my back up “pedal board”. I have a few patches that it cycles through. Basically a rhythm, a lead and an ambient. It is a GREAT pedal.
    My normal board is a JHS pulp n peel v4, HX stomp (reverb, delay, mod, amp/IRs), boss sy200, boss rc5.
    It’s amazing that a $120 pedal can act as a viable replacement that 99% of the people listening wouldn’t even know the difference.

  • @jazzylei143
    @jazzylei143 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome. Please do another video of this liitle pedal

  • @BW33955
    @BW33955 Год назад +1

    This little thing turns out to be my mostly used guitar effect, even though I have Kemper and Helix on my shelf, running Bias FX on my iPad... it's masterpiece.

  • @martindeuker39
    @martindeuker39 Год назад +2

    I use an MS-100 since years for my always-on effects, delay, reverb, EQ and Noisegate. You can lay another effect on the footswitch to recall. I am not an effect guy, but the quality is absolute standard.

  • @callawaycass5148
    @callawaycass5148 Год назад +2

    The right to left signal flow mimics that of a traditional pedalboard with individual stompboxes. But yes, the multi effect modelers have gone left to right since... well, at least since 1996.

  • @rorymcilvain4586
    @rorymcilvain4586 Год назад +11

    Hey John, I find this extremely useful for acoustic guitar. It has comps, good exciter, pretty awesome reverb and mod effects. great to just put in your case and plug in one pedal and go.

    • @merrilltingey597
      @merrilltingey597 Год назад +3

      I've had one a while and honestly never thought of using it on acoustic. I'm definitely going to try it out now. Thanks for the tip!

    • @christianpaulroldan4010
      @christianpaulroldan4010 8 месяцев назад +1

      For acoustic i think it has another unit for that

  • @billiramone
    @billiramone Год назад +6

    I used to get my reverbs and mods from a cheap Zoom G1on which basically runs the same software. If that thing had a tap tempo, I'd still be rocking it; the delays were amazing!

  • @stratoalex
    @stratoalex 23 дня назад

    I have a multi stomp. I used to play in an acpustic band and I used it with the preset A & B. One was compressor, eq and some reverb. Preset B was similar but with slightly different eq clean boost and delay.

  • @DrProgNerd
    @DrProgNerd Год назад +7

    One of these passed through on a bulk trade once but I didn't pay it much mind - flipped it. The Zoom MS-70CDR - however - has found its way onto many iterations of my pedalboards - back when I was gigging. For a guitar player on a budget, the bang-for-the-buck aspect of the CDR is almost unbeatable. No amp modeling - but a great catalog of effects for about $100'ish. High function/low real estate pedal. Surprisingly good pedal.

    • @TheMemagNeman
      @TheMemagNeman Год назад +1

      You can mod it and have amp modeling ,from other zoom products, in it. Not complicated and it works.
      ruclips.net/video/Ul-BYkV3PSk/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/oG3KO1EbFd4/видео.html

    • @kaskas55
      @kaskas55 Год назад +1

      Same here. Love the MS70

    • @rhitosparsha
      @rhitosparsha Год назад +2

      You can get a software named "Zoom Effect Manager" and get models from other units like the MS-50G onto it as well!

  • @christianpucciarelli
    @christianpucciarelli Год назад +1

    I asked you to check this ,glad you did 😍 I like the particle verb in this,more than the original line 6 one 😅

  • @timfletchermusic
    @timfletchermusic Год назад +26

    If it's good enough for Jon Gomm, it's good enough for me.

  • @kidwave1
    @kidwave1 Год назад +1

    Fantastic playing

  • @drewyowell1
    @drewyowell1 Год назад +1

    John - absolutely LOVE your playing! Could you please do a video showing how to play some of those runs? Thank you! 🙏🏼

    • @Majik53
      @Majik53 Год назад

      I would like this as well.

  • @imasking1658
    @imasking1658 Год назад +1

    Zoom recently released the G2 Four. It’s basically this pedal with more physical space and as a result less tricky function and interface.

  • @theericbeaty
    @theericbeaty Год назад +2

    I’ve had this pedal for many years and it’s one of my favorites. I find myself coming back to it Time and time again. In fact, I just moved my Helix LT back downstairs, so I’ll be using the multi stomp upstairs now. Also, did you update the firmware to the latest version? A couple years back, they added more effects and amps, bringing the total to around I think 170 instead of the 130 that’s listed on the original box. Lastly, I find the best software editor to use with this pedal is the free ToneLib Zoom editor. Definitely try these ideas out.

  • @nexgenalmacen
    @nexgenalmacen Год назад

    It's a very versatile, affordable pedal I use on one of my pedal boards to work as a single pedal or any classic effect desired or become another pedal board on the pedal board with amps and cabs. I especially like the patches from Line 6, Strymon, etc. You can have 6 simultaneous effects (DSP dependent) (100 Effects + 72 additional available from the PC Effects Manager Software).

  • @stephenbedford1395
    @stephenbedford1395 Год назад +2

    Hi John, I've got the Zoom MS-100bt which is the big brother of the one you're playing and it's awesome! I love it particularly after Zoom let me upload all the new overdrive pedal and amp models into it that are in their current new series of pedals. Something to do with that model being discontinued. There's a model of a Klon Centaur which is awesome! Zoom make fantastic gear and their signal-to-noise ratios are unparalleled... I'll never get rid of mine, cheers from Brisbane, Australia.

    • @trebleboost7
      @trebleboost7 Год назад +1

      I have the BT100 as well and yes - the Klonish pedal is pretty good. It worked great with my tone wheel clone (Voce) to add grit.

    • @leesbassment6393
      @leesbassment6393 Год назад

      The MS pedals are brilliant. Still sound entirely usable against the big boys. Add something like the M-vave Chocolate and MS-1 combo, and you can instantly switch between presets, for about $45

  • @VaiRoth
    @VaiRoth Год назад +1

    Have the 100bt and use it when I fly to other places to jam and record stuff, it works very well with some fiddling

  • @sjo9810
    @sjo9810 Год назад

    Thanks John, can't wait for you coax the some sounds of the new Strymon Cloudburst out of the Helix or the Stomp.

  • @qzunie
    @qzunie Год назад +1

    Ive been telling my friends about the zooms pedals!! It’s the Swiss Army knife of your pedal board. You can save presets an switch them back and forth. Up to six effects at once

  • @FuzzFace
    @FuzzFace Год назад +1

    I’ve been watching your channel regularly. If you haven’t made a video on how to patch a real pedal into a plug in chain then there’s an idea. I think a lot of us would watch. We’re in a grey zone between hardware, real and virtual amps, and software effects. It would be a great tutorial

  • @paolo-1283
    @paolo-1283 Год назад +4

    You should try the all modulation version of this the MS-70CDR and pair it with midi controller

  • @mattrockjm
    @mattrockjm Год назад +2

    Hi there..
    I like these pedals
    I have 3 of them ..
    Primarily I use them for the tuner …
    I love them when I go to open jams and I don’t have my gear.
    it gets me through a jam easily
    Battery operated, tuner,
    Drives, tremolo; reverb,
    Delays … it’s very small and They work perfectly….
    Ok thx for listening have a great day …

  • @skeeterbodeen8326
    @skeeterbodeen8326 Год назад +1

    I have a couple of these, they are a Swiss Army Knife, and huge pedal board space saver b/c of several fx @ one time. The Uni vibe is nice and chewy.

  • @IvanMyr1
    @IvanMyr1 Год назад +15

    The best way to use these is with some of the community made software. There are patch editors and software which let's you port effects from other Zoom pedals, and hacks to compress the effect files to store more on the device at once. I think there are even some custom coded effects people have made

    • @rhitosparsha
      @rhitosparsha Год назад +3

      Yeah all of that works on the cheaper units like the G1on as well.

  • @alex-martins
    @alex-martins Год назад +3

    I use my zoom ms 70cdr since 2016. Such a great pedal !!! It sound amazing and it is USB MIDI controllable if you want more switches.
    The only thing I would want, would be an IR loader built in.

    • @waynedoherty7758
      @waynedoherty7758 Год назад +2

      Lol what! I missed that, can’t believe a 10year old affordable pedal is blowing UAFX out of the water there regards midi control

  • @skorpian34
    @skorpian34 5 месяцев назад +1

    That was some great playing,

  • @Phoboss32
    @Phoboss32 Год назад +1

    You should definitely also check out their amazing mini pedalboard Zoom G3X which can be run on batteries and has helix like mini displays! Such a great concept!

  • @kimmolingonheimo
    @kimmolingonheimo 8 месяцев назад +3

    Ive gathered about 6 or 7 ZOOM G2s: Fender Twin model +great EQ +reverbs....+ heavy lead tones( which I rarely us eanymore..),
    just got one of these, 100€s is a joke for this goodness!!!!

  • @murrayrowley2900
    @murrayrowley2900 Год назад

    I have a few G1Xon pedals from Zoom which I was handing out to my students (at about 50 euros each I went crazy!). These are essentially the same patch technology as the smaller multistomp demoed here, but perhaps a little more flexible in setup and more visual in the interface. I also have an A3 acoustic pedal from Zoom for my Ovation guitar, this has the A-B-C-D selector option. The particle reverb is fantastic.

  • @kenphillips3282
    @kenphillips3282 Год назад +1

    I have had this pedal for a few years and it has been on and off my board a number of times. Cheap, powerful and cheerful. The only drawback is that you have to sequentially scroll through the presets, so you can’t have too many otherwise you have to press the pedal how ever many times to get back to the regular setting you use. It is possible to set the same preset multiple times so you could set your standard tone every 3rd or 4th one, but it can be a nuisance. Midi control would be handy. Thanks again John for your insights and wonderful playing.

    • @japhetmock
      @japhetmock Год назад +1

      I finally found the solution to this and you might be as amazed as I was at how fantastically this works: ruclips.net/video/7gNBT2MgySM/видео.html
      Though the video depicts the MS-70CDR, I use it with my MS-50G. I now have a full blown mini rig that is a dream come true - and it's wireless!

    • @kenphillips3282
      @kenphillips3282 Год назад +2

      @@japhetmock Thank you. Checked out that link and it looks like a great option. Will certainly check out that setup. Thanks again.

  • @dadudezpr
    @dadudezpr Год назад

    Sick every line ! Top score

  • @bryantwalley
    @bryantwalley Год назад +1

    I have the 50 and the 70. They are both great pedals.

  • @TheJanuaryLanterns
    @TheJanuaryLanterns Год назад +4

    This is a terrific pedal for how cheap it is. I really wonder why Line 6 never made a competitor to this in their helix line. I have two of these. Also great tuner option when you’re playing on a stage with bright sunlight and LED’s aren’t visible. I use it on my acoustic rig regularly with a few saved presets I can cycle through.

    • @GreenHoleSun
      @GreenHoleSun 5 месяцев назад

      My answer is quite simple: Helix (and so Fractal, Kemper, Neural dsp, Strymon etc.) has no interest in competing with Zoom in this market. It would be quite embarassing for them to admit that a pedal produced from 2012 (!) is not so different, qualitatively, from what they sell now 10x the price...

  • @lucasvinicius181
    @lucasvinicius181 Год назад

    The video was very good, I am also a user of the Zoom MS50G and I am very satisfied, I would like you to record a video talking about the Modulations, thank you !!

  • @GuitarWorkshop
    @GuitarWorkshop Год назад +2

    I have a multistomp and I use an effects editor found online to add more effects to this pedal.

  • @tarkenton3895
    @tarkenton3895 Год назад +1

    Gyat damn that intro playing was incredibly tasty 🤯

  • @Kamikaze3557
    @Kamikaze3557 Год назад

    Oh, had one of those, I’m no picky pedal guy so to rate it’s modeling sound and such would be dumb on my part, it did what I wanted at the time. I used zoom acoustic pedals too. I liked them and those who I have played music with and for couldn’t tell any diff from my hi end pedals. Hi end stuff is for YOU, not your average listener.

  • @mikechecka292
    @mikechecka292 Год назад +1

    In the past I wouldnt even bother looking at a digital pedal. Source Audio changed that with their original Bass Envelope Filter. The only reason I finally sold it is because I bought their Spectrum Filter which is on a whole other level. Havent tried a Zoom yet but a lot of bass players use the B series pedals.

  • @ToneDeth.
    @ToneDeth. Год назад +1

    I've got an MS70CDR and use it for all sorts of things, not just guitar. Lots of interesting and wacky/quirky effects. hahahah i knew you'd say particle reverb and ice delay. they're good! i use it and run synths or drums in to it. i can see otehr comments have already mentioned that you can put custom firmware to get all effects. the ms70cdr doesnt have the amps and cabs but all the effects. including compressors eqs etc and more effects.
    also signal chai makes total sense. thats how it is on the pedalboard. right to left usually.

  • @MrVishnuu
    @MrVishnuu 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the great review and playing again John!
    Do you happen to still have the device?
    I've seen a demo with external ir and it shows surprisingly good results showing the amps are actually really good and it's the integrated cab sims that don't make it justice..
    Wish you great inspiration !
    Wood make a great video

  • @robertclarkguitar
    @robertclarkguitar Год назад

    Beautiful !!!!

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 Год назад

    I'm thinking about getting one just for the pitch delay!

  • @saharaleiluna2885
    @saharaleiluna2885 8 месяцев назад +1

    A new zoom ms 50g+ came out. I hope you will try it.

  • @albertplaysguitar
    @albertplaysguitar Год назад +1

    Well you got a better sound out of it than I did! I'd love to hear you opinion on the digitech rp360 (and it's online editor)

  • @icarusi
    @icarusi 3 месяца назад

    The 'Roller' fx is handy. It's a delayed pitch vibrato, which only comes in on sustained notes or chords, so can work similar to a 'trem' arm unit, on guitars which don't have them.

  • @nicktshredz
    @nicktshredz Год назад +1

    When I was in undergrad fro. 2012-2016 I used the big brother of this. It's got great stuff and really work.
    Most of the amps aren't the best but I loved it for using with a clean amp for pop gigs. The effects are awesome!
    I would love to see a video of you using this with other pedals. I've had noise issues with mine integrating extra pedals in the mix with it.

  • @BruceHarms
    @BruceHarms 2 месяца назад

    I'm really into buying some older tech, and I have to say, this combined with new Zoom R4 (4track recorder), I am making my first real attempt into an EP. I am moving away from the screen so I can make music insteaad of producing tracks. Very excited now, thank you for a great video!

  • @trebleboost7
    @trebleboost7 Год назад +1

    I have the MS100BT and I always throw it in with my ax for vacations! I find the amp models a bit lacking and the digits always conversion on the pick dynamics not so great but for what it is it is pretty great right now I have it in an aux send of my mixer for tracking reverb using a decent basic plate.

    • @trebleboost7
      @trebleboost7 Год назад

      Digital = digits always (oops).

    • @-Pol-
      @-Pol- Год назад

      The amp models sound better with their cab sims turned OFF in my view... The multistomp shines at low gain anyway. If I'm plugging into the front of my amp adding an amp sim is pointless anyway. Just let the real amp be itself and tone shape with EQ such like. I like to put my own overdrives in front and amp behind and let the zoom take care of the rest.

  • @wolfhorsky
    @wolfhorsky Год назад +4

    It's like for forever on my main pedalboard. I use it as noise gate, chorus and tuner.

    • @Majik53
      @Majik53 Год назад

      I have the CDR70 and have flashed it with a few amp models. but I mostly use it with two flangers in the chain - one slow, one faster for a unique sound.

  • @shredacuda
    @shredacuda Год назад

    its a great modulation pedal. very good effects but definitely very quarky to use

  • @Touchguitar
    @Touchguitar Год назад

    Very helpful!!!

  • @Doomhamar
    @Doomhamar Год назад

    Dude awesome vid!!! Try the Boss Pocket GT, I think you will like it.

  • @kevinreyes970
    @kevinreyes970 Год назад +1

    Hey John, can this unit works if i'm going to use a regular 9v adaptor? Or it need an specific 9v 500ma adaptor? Thanks in advance

  • @devilslide01
    @devilslide01 Год назад

    I’ve contemplated getting this pedal so many times. Ultra Swiss Army knife pedal

  • @steveliberty
    @steveliberty Год назад

    I had one of the other models of the Multistomp - the MS50-CDR I think is what it was called. It had some good sounds in it. I just found it unrealistic to use given the single footsitch interface. I tried using MIDI with it (this was a long time ago, and was my first ever experience with MIDI), but I never got to where I felt it was suited for live use. Of course as a backup, if you can setup a single good tone, and control the rest from your guitar knobs, that should work in an emergency. But an Ampero II Stomp would offer more control and more tonal options if the extra money is doable. I think in this general price range though, I would compare with some of the other options (Mooer, Valeton, and even the newer Boss G1 Four) before committing to one or another.

  • @basicforge
    @basicforge Год назад

    I had one of those. It is really cool and does a lot, but a Zoom G1on has the same features, is easier to use and costs less. But if you need a smaller form factor the MS-50G may be for you.

  • @Nightwinflyer
    @Nightwinflyer Год назад +4

    I own both of the MS pedals, the 50 and 70. Zoom is criminally underrated. The tones are very real sounding and amp like, as you see demonstrated here! I've recorded entire songs with just the MS-50G straight into my digital recorder. Awesome demo BTW! Also, analog pedals pair very well with this unit, especially things like the Joyo California.

    • @guitarplayer1969
      @guitarplayer1969 Год назад +1

      They are underrated but have gone the wrong direction over last few years. These older pedals were good. I have owned most all of them at one point and now only have a G3n as a backup to my helix.

  • @rareform6747
    @rareform6747 Год назад

    Works great for synthesizers ! I found some signal loss in bypass .

    • @-Pol-
      @-Pol- Год назад

      It's minimal though - I've read comparisons saying the signal loss is less than a Boss TU-2 tuner pedal among others..

  • @amoskamil6823
    @amoskamil6823 Год назад +3

    Umm. I run thousands dollars of gear into one of these things. It is my secret weapon. Years of owning gear an the elusive chase for your sound i found it in a cheap pedal. Corby keep this an play with it. Dont line out into a amp put it on stack. I use this like a power section on my board with my pedals running into the fender vibro amp or the marshall model. I have some compressers an things going but ill keep my settings to myself. It takes pedals soooo well i get frustrated my kemper cant do same. I couldnt live without one. My matchless hotbox into one of these is the sound i always chased.

  • @sadul
    @sadul 4 месяца назад +1

    I use MS-50G all the time. Studio and gigs. It is fantastic. People laugh when I show my "rig". They won´t laugh after I´m done playing. User interface is crap, but I´ve gotten used to it. It works kinda.

  • @dada1952
    @dada1952 Год назад +2

    Also as a side note the latest firmware gives the MS-50G almost all the same time and mod effects of the MS-70CDR so it in many ways makes getting the 70CDR redundant.

    • @Iodine74
      @Iodine74 Год назад +2

      Except that the 70CDR has stereo in. Now admittedly not all the effects take advantage of that. But it’s there.

    • @-Pol-
      @-Pol- Год назад

      Once I discovered this I wished I had the 70CDR - that extra port offers a few creative possibilities the 50g doesn't

  • @bobbywilliams4655
    @bobbywilliams4655 Год назад +1

    Would this be a good companion to the ToneX?

  • @tomekgrzyb6990
    @tomekgrzyb6990 8 месяцев назад

    fantastic song no the start !

  • @bobbywilliams4655
    @bobbywilliams4655 Год назад +1

    This with a DSM & Humboldt simplifier dlx and a TC electron mimiq doubler would sound great I think.

    • @alex-martins
      @alex-martins Год назад +1

      You don't need the mimi Q with the zoom. The "Air" algorithm does exactly what the mimi Q does.

  • @chakakhan3751
    @chakakhan3751 Год назад

    The free tonelib editor makes it lots easier to create patches

  • @johnandre5558
    @johnandre5558 Год назад

    Line6 M5 only has 1 effect at a time but seems to have a great interface.

  • @fabulouscat9601
    @fabulouscat9601 Год назад +1

    Please more of the zoom 😇

  • @pixelrash
    @pixelrash Год назад

    Great review. 👍 Could you do a video on pairing it with hx stomp? I have recently added this pedal to hx stomp loop and using Disaster Area ghost micro to send midi via usb. I am able to scroll through presets via midi but I still dont know how to get exact preset via hx stomp commandcenter.

    • @samuelcorrea1792
      @samuelcorrea1792 Год назад +1

      Did you discover how configure this?

    • @pixelrash
      @pixelrash Год назад

      @@samuelcorrea1792 I was able to do i via command center in hx stomp. So I went with Instant command - bank pc , midi channel 1 (i made hx midi ch 2) , bnk cc00=1 , bnkcc32=50 , program= your preset no in zoom(its going to be 1 preset down because zoom doesnt have preset no 0) …. There must be a better way but this is what i came up with. Hope that helps.

  • @IshredGuitar
    @IshredGuitar 2 месяца назад +1

    The Revo-1 amp & cab was the best metal amp selection Zoom ever put out, from looking around I don't see it in this little pedal. This particle verb are nice but it seems to be its star pedal only. The money shot for Zoom would be to create a duel 2 - DSP 48khz sampling rate, 128x oversampling converter and filter with 110-119db dynamic range mid size pro modeler, perhaps slightly bigger than the HX Stomp. Putting as many amp & cabs models as possible and include the Revo-1! A guitar modeler that's affordable and powerful for beginner, intermediate or pro level players across the board. If Zoom does that they will take a huge lions share of the guitar modeler market. There's too many young players coming in who are phenomenal players tier level guitar modelers and 44.1khz will get left behind. Everyone does guitar videos these days this is not audio track studio anymore, players want the best sound to be in their video compilations and that can only be achieved with 48khz sample rate frequency and superior dynamic audio range. Right now I see Nux leading the way since there's are the most affordable.

  • @jazzylei143
    @jazzylei143 3 месяца назад

    This pedal plus boss od3 would be cool 🎉🎉

  • @electroharmonix
    @electroharmonix Год назад +1

    If you don't mind, could you demo the Z-organ effect in the jazz context?
    I love your channel. I have been watching for a while now but I believe this is my first comment. Cheers!

    • @trebleboost7
      @trebleboost7 Год назад

      Not saying it isn’t there, but I struggled to get a sound I liked out of that selection.

  • @DonPuglisimusic
    @DonPuglisimusic 6 месяцев назад

    HELP, I’m still confused as to how to create multiple effects chain... can someone help?