Bro zoom handssssss down best multi effects in the business I’ve had 6 hx stomps. Yeah that’s right 6 at different points in the past years since it was released and when it comes to bass I always keep coming back to my b3n b3 and ms 60b for allll types of gigs.
I have the first version of the MS-60B and it some really great effects on board, especially compressors and stuff. Seems like Zoom has stepped up their game on the Multistomp stuff.
I think you missed an important feature - you can change where in the 'effects chain' that the R output is taken... So you can have outputs for pre and post amp modelling (or other effect).
I have it, and I love it! And, to set this straight: It's made of cast metal, not plastic. It came out at just the right time when I was thinking about getting a compact multi-effect pedal. I was considering a MS-60B or a B1 Four (too dated), a Pod Express Bass (too dumb and cheaply built), some kind of fly rig (too limited) or one of the many bigger multi-effect pedals or modelers (too big, complex and overpowered for my use). The MS-60B+ hits the sweet-spot!
I am considering buying this device. Can you clarify the controls of the device, since I have not found any information anywhere... 1. Is it possible to create a bank with 3-4 prepared presets? 2. Is it possible to turn on presets in a selected bank in any order with one click, without scrolling through the presets? 3. How convenient is it to switch the buttons with your foot, since they are so small?)) 4. Does it have an octaver, chorus shimmer? Thanks for the answer!
@@kotanel This works a bit differently: You don't have banks with presets, but you have patches on one level which you can switch with the upper buttons. Each patch can consist of 1 to 6 effects which operate like stomp boxes. You can use the lower buttons to scroll through them and then use the main button to switch them on or off. The buttons around the main button are not super easy to operate with the foot, but it's possible, you'll get used to it quickly. I basically angle my toes down to operate the upper buttons, and up to operate the lower buttons. The four knobs to adjust the parameters are pretty small as well. I think they found the best possible compromise for the pedal size, but I might have preferred everything 10-20% bigger. And yes, there are multiple octavers and chorus effects, and all sound really great to me!
@@VeitLehmann Thanks for the answer! I understand correctly: To achieve a sequence in one song: a clean sound, then an overdriven sound, then a clean sound again, will I have to do a lot of leg movements?)) Use the bottom button to select overload, then turn it on with the center button, then select the current patch, press the center button again? Probably this multi-effect is best used in this way: choose the desired patch and play the entire song with it?
I am considering buying this device. Can you clarify the controls of the device, since I have not found any information anywhere... 1. Is it possible to create a bank with 3-4 prepared presets? 2. Is it possible to turn on presets in a selected bank in any order with one click, without scrolling through the presets? 3. How convenient is it to switch the buttons with your foot, since they are so small?)) 4. Does it have an octaver, chorus shimmer? Thanks for the answer!
after having quite a lot of multi effect pedals I went back to buying analog versions to get rid of the colouring of the sound that happens when then signal is converted to digital and back. but it‘s so great to try a huge variety of sounds for so little money! 😊🎉
I just bought this one! Overall really cool to have so many optoins in a small pedal format. I'm having some veird digital noise with some effetc. Like reaching processing power limit even when usind just one effect. It happens mostly with filters and octaves. Maybe it is caused by too much input gain? Any similar experiences or idea to solve the issue? Also some effect parameters are too limited and can't really ajust thing that I'd like to. I would happily pay double to eliminate these issues...
If you have Ms-60b, old version is important to update firmware, it give you lots of effect, amps and cabs Users - try to run my favorite distorion sound. Ampeg SVT(everything at 12 clock) 810 Ampeg cabinet at 60/70% and Bass dist 1 effect(everyting on 12 o clock) but tone on 40. Fantastic light distortion which you can easy "punch" with harderd finger attack Ps. I compare my MS60b with amplitube... zoom is definetly better
The MS-60B+ is a subsequent improvement of its predecessor. I loved the old -60B, -70CDR und -50G and the new "version" has a new and more powerful audio chip. I compared the old and the new version side by side - many parameters can be adjusted finer and more usable in a live situation. Finallly a HPF and a LPF. The statements like "all zoom is crap" are simply bullshit. If the Zoom doesn't match you taste - ok. But simple bashing is stupid. You have to examine the pedal and its parameters. The "+" has ( in my opinion ) better presets which aren't so overloaded. And the best way is: erase all presets and start on your own. The MS-60B+ is no competitor for let's say a Helix Stomp, but a wonderful swiss army knife.
Are there any restrictions with regards to effect types in the chain? E.g. could I do the darkglass pre/OD and an SVT after each other? Is there also a limitation on effect chain length, can one do effects in parallel, or just wet/dry? Did you ever run out of processing power? I can imagine the poly octaver (if I recall correctly seeing that somewhere) could be eating up resources. Thanks for the review, I put it in my sweetwater cart through your link.
FINALLY at Zoom they understood that those teeny tiny buttons surrounding the footswitch in the old MS-60 models, were a pain in the ass! Too little and too flimsy! In my first MS-60B one of the four buttons ceased working so I couldn't access a bunch of functions. So I got another MS-60B (because come on, it's a Swiss Army knife, totally worth its price) and now, after a lot of use, EVEN THIS ONE has one of those little buttons becoming unreliable. DEFINITELY a weak point in its design, so much that I was considering alternative pedals. But in that price range the MS series is tough to beat. Now this new version seems to have overcome the issue, with larger and sturdier buttons... hopefully! 😅
OMG it looks like a tiny version of my B1x4 - if it has an expression input to use expression peripherals (yes including a standard expression pedal) that would be insane - but it is an upcharge, being that I got the B1x4 for a c-note USD new on sale. That being said, Zoom has the largest tone print/effects catalog in the industry except *maybe* Boss but while Boss has far more effects pedals and most of them are popular, when you go to the Boss tools and the Zoom tools your options are simply massive for Zoom. I also have a Katana Air which isn't a big amp but it gives you access to Boss' tone print/effects catalog, and either Boss is slacking on getting everything into their tool or Zoom just makes it a LOT easier as well as having a bit bigger/deeper patch well to dig into. Boss has plenty though and their most popular pedals will always be available through their much more expensive modelers/multifx, so it's not so much an advantage for most as a data point. But I heart this little guy already - should be able to work expression peripherals in through MIDI but that's kind of a hike for something I should be able to just socket into it at this point - expression input isn't a big software change so if I'm bringing my own hardware with a standardized input, that should be directly pluggable. Just more notes to take when I finally get tired of dealing with compromises and constraints and just make the thing that will let you do all the things and then sell people a downloadable hardware subscription - if their device needs more space for more function, then they can buy a bigger stomper with a couple more buttons or knobs on it. But yes, my plan is to allow people to pay a nominal fee for access to a library of downloadable pedal configurations on a platform built on FPGA/analog PSoC type hardware. Programmable analog SoCs have gotten enough input bandwidth to use in audio applications and nobody has really exploited that yet.
I’m thinking of buying a zoom ms 60b+, but I still haven’t figured out the controls (((Please tell me, is it convenient to switch buttons with your foot, because these buttons are so small? Is there a risk of pressing the wrong button? Is it possible to create, for example, a bank with several cells and turn on them in random order with one touch, without scrolling through the list,like a pedalboard? Thanks for the answer, I hope they understand me - I used an online translator :)
I just got one! Changed from B1Four, the MS-60B+ is missing the audio/music input, but the better tuner makes up for that.... Need to experiment more with it though.
I'm really curious about what you find as I have a B1X Four. The expression pedal really doesn't do much like the past similar pedals that Zoom put out. Also moving to more analog stuff for preamp but don't want to lug around a giant pedal board for effects.
I kind of feel like a dumbass because I bought a new Zoom MS60B about two months ago and then I found out about this bad boy. I'm kind of not mad because....the MS60B rips as well, and I think my pedalboard can fit both. I'm not even a fanboy, but Zoom is by far one of the best companies for features vs price. Your videos keep me going.
I got my MS60B ten years ago as a backup for my Boss ME50B and I fell in love with it. For many gigs I paired it with a Sansamp Deluxe and that was all I needed. I have several multifx including a Boss GT1000 core but my MS60B it's always available in my practice spot at home. My birthday is next month and maybe I'll treat myself with that new version.
Hi guys, thanks for the video..... Can this pedal go straight into PA so I dont have to take a amp to gigs? Does the pedal have a metal outer case? thks
Isn’t that true of every device that has presets? Guitar/bass modelers, synthesizers, effects processors…. We all use the same ten sounds and then the rest are just to show off features and unusable possibilities….
if this has parallel processing, there'll be no reason to move up to a HX Stomp. but then again, too good for the price. I recently bought one and my GAS for a sansamp disappeared hehe
you could totally have another channel having all these music clips in a single "live radio", like a radio from spotify.. I would listen the shit out of that. I would be interested in helping you with that.
I just love the idea so much! imagine a "live" streaming video where you have the guy playing the music and the pedal at the bottom right as an ad. with a QR code to link to the store of the pedal. I'm a software developer I'd love to take on that project!
Are they as well built as more expensive pedals? No, of course not. Are they excellent value for money? Absolutely. They are not trash at all. They serve their purpose very well.
@@BassMusician7 Exactly, for the money, you buy a second one and even a cheap and tiny Trace/TC/Peavey/whatever 200 or 250W head you throw in your bag and it's still smaller and cheaper than a quad cortex. And in all honesty, yeah, you can probably tell on recording, but on stage with a band pumping, it'll sound just fine. And if some drunk idiot spills a beer on your pedal, chuck it to the side and use your spare. :)
Hey Gregor, I'm laughing here at your Beavis and Butthead reference! Good one!
Bro zoom handssssss down best multi effects in the business I’ve had 6 hx stomps. Yeah that’s right 6 at different points in the past years since it was released and when it comes to bass I always keep coming back to my b3n b3 and ms 60b for allll types of gigs.
This is the same for me. Zoom isn’t the best sounding, but they sound darn good and have the best function over all for me.
I have the first version of the MS-60B and it some really great effects on board, especially compressors and stuff. Seems like Zoom has stepped up their game on the Multistomp stuff.
I think you missed an important feature - you can change where in the 'effects chain' that the R output is taken... So you can have outputs for pre and post amp modelling (or other effect).
I have it, and I love it! And, to set this straight: It's made of cast metal, not plastic.
It came out at just the right time when I was thinking about getting a compact multi-effect pedal. I was considering a MS-60B or a B1 Four (too dated), a Pod Express Bass (too dumb and cheaply built), some kind of fly rig (too limited) or one of the many bigger multi-effect pedals or modelers (too big, complex and overpowered for my use). The MS-60B+ hits the sweet-spot!
Have you figured out how to control it with external midi yet ?
@@jeffcampbell8803 No, not sure about that, I don't need this.
I am considering buying this device.
Can you clarify the controls of the device, since I have not found any information anywhere...
1. Is it possible to create a bank with 3-4 prepared presets?
2. Is it possible to turn on presets in a selected bank in any order with one click, without scrolling through the presets?
3. How convenient is it to switch the buttons with your foot, since they are so small?))
4. Does it have an octaver, chorus shimmer?
Thanks for the answer!
@@kotanel This works a bit differently: You don't have banks with presets, but you have patches on one level which you can switch with the upper buttons. Each patch can consist of 1 to 6 effects which operate like stomp boxes. You can use the lower buttons to scroll through them and then use the main button to switch them on or off.
The buttons around the main button are not super easy to operate with the foot, but it's possible, you'll get used to it quickly. I basically angle my toes down to operate the upper buttons, and up to operate the lower buttons. The four knobs to adjust the parameters are pretty small as well. I think they found the best possible compromise for the pedal size, but I might have preferred everything 10-20% bigger.
And yes, there are multiple octavers and chorus effects, and all sound really great to me!
@@VeitLehmann Thanks for the answer! I understand correctly: To achieve a sequence in one song: a clean sound, then an overdriven sound, then a clean sound again, will I have to do a lot of leg movements?)) Use the bottom button to select overload, then turn it on with the center button, then select the current patch, press the center button again? Probably this multi-effect is best used in this way: choose the desired patch and play the entire song with it?
I have one. I love it. Sometimes i take a larger board but sometimes i bring only the MS-60B+. It's great.
I am considering buying this device.
Can you clarify the controls of the device, since I have not found any information anywhere...
1. Is it possible to create a bank with 3-4 prepared presets?
2. Is it possible to turn on presets in a selected bank in any order with one click, without scrolling through the presets?
3. How convenient is it to switch the buttons with your foot, since they are so small?))
4. Does it have an octaver, chorus shimmer?
Thanks for the answer!
after having quite a lot of multi effect pedals I went back to buying analog versions to get rid of the colouring of the sound that happens when then signal is converted to digital and back. but it‘s so great to try a huge variety of sounds for so little money! 😊🎉
I just bought this one! Overall really cool to have so many optoins in a small pedal format. I'm having some veird digital noise with some effetc. Like reaching processing power limit even when usind just one effect. It happens mostly with filters and octaves. Maybe it is caused by too much input gain? Any similar experiences or idea to solve the issue? Also some effect parameters are too limited and can't really ajust thing that I'd like to.
I would happily pay double to eliminate these issues...
If you have Ms-60b, old version is important to update firmware, it give you lots of effect, amps and cabs
Users - try to run my favorite distorion sound. Ampeg SVT(everything at 12 clock) 810 Ampeg cabinet at 60/70% and Bass dist 1 effect(everyting on 12 o clock) but tone on 40. Fantastic light distortion which you can easy "punch" with harderd finger attack
Ps. I compare my MS60b with amplitube... zoom is definetly better
Why not just buy the Zoom multi effects pedal , like the B1 four?
Powerful little toy ❤
The MS-60B+ is a subsequent improvement of its predecessor.
I loved the old -60B, -70CDR und -50G and the new "version" has a new and more powerful audio chip.
I compared the old and the new version side by side - many parameters can be adjusted finer and more usable in a live situation. Finallly a HPF and a LPF.
The statements like "all zoom is crap" are simply bullshit. If the Zoom doesn't match you taste - ok.
But simple bashing is stupid.
You have to examine the pedal and its parameters.
The "+" has ( in my opinion ) better presets which aren't so overloaded.
And the best way is: erase all presets and start on your own.
The MS-60B+ is no competitor for let's say a Helix Stomp, but a wonderful swiss army knife.
Are there any restrictions with regards to effect types in the chain? E.g. could I do the darkglass pre/OD and an SVT after each other? Is there also a limitation on effect chain length, can one do effects in parallel, or just wet/dry? Did you ever run out of processing power? I can imagine the poly octaver (if I recall correctly seeing that somewhere) could be eating up resources.
Thanks for the review, I put it in my sweetwater cart through your link.
Pretty spiffy 😎
FINALLY at Zoom they understood that those teeny tiny buttons surrounding the footswitch in the old MS-60 models, were a pain in the ass! Too little and too flimsy! In my first MS-60B one of the four buttons ceased working so I couldn't access a bunch of functions. So I got another MS-60B (because come on, it's a Swiss Army knife, totally worth its price) and now, after a lot of use, EVEN THIS ONE has one of those little buttons becoming unreliable. DEFINITELY a weak point in its design, so much that I was considering alternative pedals. But in that price range the MS series is tough to beat. Now this new version seems to have overcome the issue, with larger and sturdier buttons... hopefully! 😅
Good PJ T-shirt . How can I get that?
OMG it looks like a tiny version of my B1x4 - if it has an expression input to use expression peripherals (yes including a standard expression pedal) that would be insane - but it is an upcharge, being that I got the B1x4 for a c-note USD new on sale.
That being said, Zoom has the largest tone print/effects catalog in the industry except *maybe* Boss but while Boss has far more effects pedals and most of them are popular, when you go to the Boss tools and the Zoom tools your options are simply massive for Zoom. I also have a Katana Air which isn't a big amp but it gives you access to Boss' tone print/effects catalog, and either Boss is slacking on getting everything into their tool or Zoom just makes it a LOT easier as well as having a bit bigger/deeper patch well to dig into. Boss has plenty though and their most popular pedals will always be available through their much more expensive modelers/multifx, so it's not so much an advantage for most as a data point.
But I heart this little guy already - should be able to work expression peripherals in through MIDI but that's kind of a hike for something I should be able to just socket into it at this point - expression input isn't a big software change so if I'm bringing my own hardware with a standardized input, that should be directly pluggable. Just more notes to take when I finally get tired of dealing with compromises and constraints and just make the thing that will let you do all the things and then sell people a downloadable hardware subscription - if their device needs more space for more function, then they can buy a bigger stomper with a couple more buttons or knobs on it. But yes, my plan is to allow people to pay a nominal fee for access to a library of downloadable pedal configurations on a platform built on FPGA/analog PSoC type hardware. Programmable analog SoCs have gotten enough input bandwidth to use in audio applications and nobody has really exploited that yet.
I’m thinking of buying a zoom ms 60b+, but I still haven’t figured out the controls (((Please tell me, is it convenient to switch buttons with your foot, because these buttons are so small? Is there a risk of pressing the wrong button? Is it possible to create, for example, a bank with several cells and turn on them in random order with one touch, without scrolling through the list,like a pedalboard? Thanks for the answer, I hope they understand me - I used an online translator :)
Hello! Please tell me, is it necessary to use a preamplifier with this processor? Or does the ms 60b+ itself act as a preamp?
I just got one! Changed from B1Four, the MS-60B+ is missing the audio/music input, but the better tuner makes up for that.... Need to experiment more with it though.
I'm really curious about what you find as I have a B1X Four. The expression pedal really doesn't do much like the past similar pedals that Zoom put out. Also moving to more analog stuff for preamp but don't want to lug around a giant pedal board for effects.
For use at home and on the desk, this device can be very interesting and useful. Not for big feet and dark stages. No way.
I kind of feel like a dumbass because I bought a new Zoom MS60B about two months ago and then I found out about this bad boy. I'm kind of not mad because....the MS60B rips as well, and I think my pedalboard can fit both.
I'm not even a fanboy, but Zoom is by far one of the best companies for features vs price.
Your videos keep me going.
you can put the same effects inside bro! see a video from badgear about the zomm ms
@@yago8672the MS+ pedals use 'ZD2' effects which are not compatible with the older MS pedals.... The community is working on 'hacking' the MS+ 😊
I got my MS60B ten years ago as a backup for my Boss ME50B and I fell in love with it. For many gigs I paired it with a Sansamp Deluxe and that was all I needed.
I have several multifx including a Boss GT1000 core but my MS60B it's always available in my practice spot at home.
My birthday is next month and maybe I'll treat myself with that new version.
Hi guys, thanks for the video..... Can this pedal go straight into PA so I dont have to take a amp to gigs? Does the pedal have a metal outer case? thks
It has speaker cab sims, so going straight into the PA should be perfect.
I love mine!
can you add another button to it? Looks small to be stepping on all the buttons.
My old MS-60B it was a great pedal to keep in your gig bag just in case. But to be honest I still miss it's Eden and and cab emulation.
Hey Gregor! What was the drive you really liked?! The menu was on the screen so i couldn't see which one it is
ROGER MAYER VOODOO-BASS 🤘
(Climbs out of rabbit hole).. Ok, back- man it’s dusty down there, but found it!
Primus- Jilly’s On Smack
The only thing I've found with zoom pedals is that there you'd never use the majority of the patches on them
Agreed - some presets are comically overcooked BUT, easily editable into something useful in the real world.
@@jermainelong1843 thankfully!!
Never used any factory presets, always created my own. Not a problem
Isn’t that true of every device that has presets? Guitar/bass modelers, synthesizers, effects processors…. We all use the same ten sounds and then the rest are just to show off features and unusable possibilities….
Then don't buy it 🎉
Does anyone know a external foot switch with USB-C that works with the zoom?
I am wondering about that as well, tried using the M-vave with no success
I may be the only one who uses Zoom’s more bizarre effects, lol.
So, it's like a b2 four without a bunch of connections
Top!
if this has parallel processing, there'll be no reason to move up to a HX Stomp. but then again, too good for the price. I recently bought one and my GAS for a sansamp disappeared hehe
Not parallel AFAIK, but you can choose where in the chain R output is taken.
I use it with my HX Stomp in the loop and it saves a lot of resources and gives me more possibilities!
you could totally have another channel having all these music clips in a single "live radio", like a radio from spotify.. I would listen the shit out of that.
I would be interested in helping you with that.
I just love the idea so much! imagine a "live" streaming video where you have the guy playing the music and the pedal at the bottom right as an ad. with a QR code to link to the store of the pedal.
I'm a software developer I'd love to take on that project!
nice t-shirt, where buy ??
Watch the video
I bought one a few months ago and it is way better than that pod pedal ...... Great product
It should be noted that it's Apple only! 😞 Windows or Android need not apply...
If the t-shirt would have had reversed p-pickups, I would be even happier 🙂
Does anyone know why this video has an unusually high number of dislikes?
Bogus
Never been happy with zoom pedals kinda of cheap and nasty FX
This pedal is trash. Buy anything else.
Dat first demo track 🫠 Rene is a bad, bad, man…
All zoom products are plastic junk !
They play and sound perfectly fine for the price. Pull your head out of your pooper.
Are they as well built as more expensive pedals? No, of course not.
Are they excellent value for money? Absolutely.
They are not trash at all. They serve their purpose very well.
My zoom b1four can replace an entire pedalboard. Never had any issues
@@BassMusician7 Exactly, for the money, you buy a second one and even a cheap and tiny Trace/TC/Peavey/whatever 200 or 250W head you throw in your bag and it's still smaller and cheaper than a quad cortex.
And in all honesty, yeah, you can probably tell on recording, but on stage with a band pumping, it'll sound just fine. And if some drunk idiot spills a beer on your pedal, chuck it to the side and use your spare. :)
the ms is made of metal bro