অসমৰ প্ৰকৃত মাটিৰ মানুহ বুলি আমি কাক দাবী কৰিব পাৰো? Reality of BIHU or is it BISU?
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- This podcast highlights various historical facts on Assam or Axom. It focuses on Bihu or is it really called BISU. The controversial facts of KHILONJIA AXOMIA or the real brahmaputras of Assam. Its totally a podcast in Assamese based on historical facts and phenomenon.
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moi Bengali mur jonmo অসমত আৰু অসমৰ ইতিহাস মোৰ ইতিহাস।
বহুত ভাল লাগিল নিজৰ ইতিহাসৰ বিষয়ে জানিব পাৰিলোঁ❤
Apunar kotha kha val lagel
আগৰ খণ্ডটোও চালোঁ... এইটোও বহুত ভাল লাগিল। ছাৰৰ কথাবোৰ ভাল লাগে... কথাবোৰ স্পষ্ট।
আজি মই প্ৰথম আপোনাৰ অনুষ্ঠানটো উপভোগ কৰিছোঁ বহুত ভাল পাইছোঁ। আশা কৰো আৰু যাতে এনেকুৱা অনুষ্ঠান আগ বহাই ধন্যবাদ।
Nice to see you both discuss this again. Allow me to critique your discussion.
1. Our respected historian has mentioned the literary body - Assam Satya Sabha and their proposition that ran during the independence period, that "Anyone and everyone whose mother tongue was Assamese, would be Assamese". I would like to point out that you've failed to see the political aspect of this historical period in the context of present-day constitutional provisions of equal representation based on the historical background of a geographical region. Meaning, If you take a look at pre-1945 Assam, the nationalists considered themselves as a separate nation but today we are under India. So equal representation of ethnicity in a separate nation of Assam would be different from that of present-day India, i.e., Assamese meant anybody living in Assam before independence but after independence, it only refers to the ethnic people of Assam. Please refer to the context of the constitutional provision for this since it is also a political discourse.
2. Very vague explanation of Assamese script and language. Assamese as a spoken language did originate from Bengali and Odiya since Assamese formerly known as Kamrupi, was spoken in the Kamarupa Kingdom and not in the Ahom Kingdom. It was later popularised due to the spread of Vaishnavism by Shankar Dev and the conversion of the population under the Ahom kingdom after the Moamoria rebellion which marked the downfall of the Ahoms. Kamrupi was termed Assamese during the colonial period after 1905 when Colonial Assam separated from Bengal and the language was used as the administrative language of the region. In the Kamarupa Kingdom, they were aware that the Kamarupi language was a dialect to converse with the people that came from across the river Ganga, like the priests and traders. Please refer to the History of Assam by Edward Gates and the Asiatic Society of Bengal.
On the other hand, the origins of Assamese script are different. He rightly says that different periods had different scriptures. The Umachal rock inscriptions were said to be in Gupta scripture. Later, Shankar Dev wrote his Bhorjabali in a different script. It is clear that the script in Assam developed over time but it just so happens that it is no different from present-day Bengali. Now the question is "Why"? Why is it so similar to Bengali script? He doesn't give us an answer for that he only says that it is different. Even the Assamese language is similar to Bengali, so why?
Another thing one can note is that the ethnic tribes such as Bodos/Mech, Koch, Ahoms, Rabhas, Garos etc all have their languages. Axomia/Assamese is the only one that is the odd one in the region however prominent it may be. Like English. The question arises, how can a script belong to a particular language if the language didn't exist during the time?
3. Claiming that every aspect of history is Assamese but is also aware that he cannot prove it. So why are we having this discussion then?
The entire point of proving something as distinct and unique of origin is with empirical evidence. And without proof, without facts, without archaeological evidence, how can you keep claiming? He even claims that Huen Sang in his documentary distinguished the language spoken in the ancient Kamarupa to be different from the rest of South Asia. The only thing different in Assam from the rest of India is the tribes' unique culture and history which he uses to substantiate his claims of Assamese culture. That is something every one of us is doing except it does not apply to someone not from the region. So how does he propose that someone who has arrived in the region also belongs to the unique culture and heritage of the region? He should be elaborating on that to define someone as Assamese. Instead, he antagonises the tribes as if they hate their land, culture and history. This man needs to understand that the Assamese language is not a native language of any of the native tribes' languages or scripts in the region. It is a borrowed script and language. It was only the Vaishnava religious section of the Society in Assam and Medival Kamrup spoke this Prakrit language from Magadh.
Also, compare the Assamese language spoken in the different periods to the present day. You realise that the present-day version is similar to Bengali and the older ones are references to the ethnic languages and not "Kamrupi" that we know today as Assamese.
4. It seems that this person is riding on the history of the region and defining it all as Assamese without categorising them as historians usually do. He has given us the "out of Assam" theory, the Aryan theory, the Himalayan range & the central Asian migration theory, and the cultural assimilation theory. All of which were entirely hypothetical with no empirical evidence. His closing argument was the same as that of the politically motivated Assam Satya Sabha during the Nationalist movement days which propagates a national identity rather than a regional identity.
It seems since the last time this man was on the show, he has been well advised on which direction he should take the narrative of who is Assamese. He refrains from making clear the guidelines under which the present-day state of Assam was created and the nature of why no-where in the Indian Union are people of different regions given a bypass to change their regional and historical origin to their "whims and fancy" when they move to another region. The matter of individual liberties is segregated from cultural and ethnic importance which this historian fails to understand as do the present-day followers of the Assamese nationalist party who are generally migrants. It is this sort of insecurity that needs to be done away with and embrace others despite our differences, which Assam seems to have done for over a millennia. It is a shame that such people take positive tolerance and compassion for granted and encourage the enforcement of a language and culture not native to the ethnic people of Assam. One can say that this is disguised bigotry and hypocrisy because under no circumstance can any state be so ignorant as to disregard its ethnic origins and become racially and ethnically integrated that it loses its ethnic origins. Also, it is not administratively and financially possible for a state like Assam to cater to a rising proportion of people claiming to be Assamese from other states. We must promote tolerance despite our differences in culture, race or region. But, radical integration is the exact opposite of tolerant and respectful.
Well anyway, Congratulations on another wonderful episode of Krishnakshi vlogs. Informative regardless of some minor shortcomings. No worries people can always read the books themselves if they have doubts. You've certainly piqued people's interests and that's what matters.
আমি যি জাতি জনগোষ্ঠীৰ হলেও প্ৰথম চিনাকি কিন্তু আমাৰ সদায় অসমীয়া। আমি প্ৰত্যেক জাতি জনগোষ্ঠীৰ ভাষা ,সাহিত্য, সংস্কৃতিক সন্মান কৰিম। আমি নিজকে বিশ্বৰ বুকুত সদায় অসমৰ অসমীয়া বুলি চিনাকি দিম। জয় আই অসম।
Bharotio buli nidiya Mane
@@MrinmoyBezbaruah-vl6sx কিছু কথা আপুনি নিজেও বুজি লব লাগিব
@@MrinmoyBezbaruah-vl6sxbharatiya buli bharat r bahirot kom, bharat t ami akhomya buli kom
Assamese is the oldest language in India it was proved long before by the old people of Assam and India.We should not discuss about it at present.I feel proud to be an Assamese.
I can speak Bengali,I can write Bengali, I feel proud to be an Assamese.Being an Assamese I can speak Bangla,it,s creditable. I don't feel inferior to Bengali.
Bihu commonly known. By Koch Rajbongshi people of greater Goalpara district we call it "Bishua" and in Bodo "Baishagu". Many scholars and educated people of the region might not understand the feelings of those districts when the language spoken around these areas are not accepted by other parts of Assam. But the culture, food, and dresses remain all traditional and similar.
Yes true, Bishua is the Jatiya Utsab of koch Rajbongshi people❤❤..........
Bihu is known as bishu/ bisu by the deori tribe in upper assam, busu by Dimasa, bwisagu by bodo. It's all fall under.
Same same but different sister we not same ...
@@supriyoray2544we are same origin and same race but bcoz of foolishness , people called us different names for which reason we are splitted into so many races in Assam, neighbouring states and countries all are done by our foolish ancestors
@@derhacharnarzary4555 correct, 57 tribe of North East India are actually same people genetically,but due to various political or others reasons,we are divided among different nomenclature.
সম্পূৰ্ণকৈ চালোঁ ছাৰ। বহুত ভাল লাগিল। নানান উদাহৰণেৰে সৈতে অতি সুন্দৰভাৱে বিশ্লেষণ এটি আগ বঢ়ালে। সচাঁকৈয়ে আমি ভাগ্যৱান আপোনাক ছাৰ হিচাপে পাই।
আজিলৈকে ছোৱা অসমীয়া সাক্ষাৎকাৰ ৰ ভিতৰতে অন্যতম।🙏🙏🙏
নিজৰ জাতিটোৰ বিষয়ে বিতংকৈ জানিবলৈ পাই বৰ ভাল লাগিল ❤আগলৈ আৰু জানিব পাৰিম বুলি আশা ৰাখিলোঁ 🙏🙏
চাৰৰ লগত হোৱা প্ৰতিটো সাক্ষাৎকাৰ বহুত ভাল লগা।
বাইদেউ চাৰৰ লগত যদি পাৰে অলপ দীঘলীয়াকৈ ইন্দিৰা মিৰিৰ বিষয়ে আলোচনা কৰিবচোন
সুন্দৰ ৷
Plzzzzz Kachari Dynasty Alop beleg koi xukia koi Podcast eta episode bonauk
It's a humble request
Val lagil. Very very interested and informative. Thank you so much Izzaz sir and ma'am for the video
বিহুৰ প্ৰকৃত কথা গম পাই ভাল লাগিল
must watch .. kudos to both of you Krishnakshi & Ijaaj Sir for this fantastic podcast .
Amazing!!Just loved it. Continue with this series🙏
please invite him for more historic videos! really interesting
We are very much proud of respacted Izaaz Ahmed Sir .
Very Informative ✅
সুন্দৰ অনুষ্ঠান ভাল লাগিল
Bohut bohut bhal lagil.
আপোনাৰ বুৰঞ্জীৰ জ্ঞানক তবধ মানিছো। পিছে আপোনাৰ পৰিচয় নাজানিলো। বৰ। ভাল লাগিল। আকৌ এনেকুৱা ভিদিঅ পাম বুলি আশা কৰিলো।
কামতাপুৰী ভাষা সবতকৈ ধুনীয়া হয়
Awesome
Val lagil baideu.... Apunar discussion bur sai eta intellectual satisfaction paisu.... Eta xoru question erilu ... Kisuman jonogosthi r manuh e nijoke mone prane oxomia buli nvabe aru porisoi nidiye oxomia buli... Xihot oxomia nhbo nki...????
Nice to see u sir. Bohut vl lagil sir 🙏🙏🙏
This discusion is surely a very interesting and more thankful.
বৰ ভাল লাগিল। অসম বুৰঞ্জীৰ বহু কথা জানি ।
Aru Ata episode bisaru baa sir rr lgt.....
Jot koch-rajbingshi r history uprt bikhekh bhabe alusona kora hbo..
Korim baru❣️
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khub val lgil ajir podcast tu..kolita hokolor bikhoye janibo bisaru..teu luk kor pora aha..ru eta podcust bisaru sir r xoite
সুন্দৰ বিশ্লেষণ।
বহুত সুন্দৰ ❤
Val lagil apunar podcast joriyote bohut nojona kotha janibo parilu. Logot Izaz Ahmed sir apunaloi u dhonyobad thakil ,. Sir Ahom r last Roja jonor bikhoye u jonabo teur poriyal borgo atita kot aru kenekoi ase.
Sir good to see you again...moi apuner last vedio tur kothakhini hompurno likhi tuka bnai lolu.thank u sir
Bohut val lagil teuk punor bar dekhi podcast t..moi nije agoraki history student asilu bor val lagise baa❤️
Khub bhal lagil
Aru janibolai bisaru
Please read the Lakshminath Bezbaruah's autobiography there he mentioned that Bengali language is a dialect of Assamese language. But today's Assamese scholars lack enough confidence to say the truth. I also wish someone will translate it to English.
Assamese language came out from Kochrajbhongsi, during biswa singha time
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Supper interview ❤👌🙏
Bor val lagil. Enekua podcast hodai saleu amoni nalage
History repeat itself. 🙏
What a knowledgeable person he is 🙏🏽
M always looking forward to learning new things from him❤
val lagil
Really appreciable dada ❤️🙏
Very Nice .. Excellent Interpretations Sir. 👍🙂🥰
Baro-Bhuyan family Kalitas (Kayasthas) are the first Aryan immigrants of Assam.
Vl lgil
Joi Aai Axom ❤
Proud to be Ahom...kinto Ahom literature protijon Ahom a jona hubhidha kori dibo lage... #ahomliteratute
Tmalukor king ei axomia bhasa grohon korisile
Useful information for me or any other Assamese folks living around the world 🌎! Thanks 🙏
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Most loved podcasts.
interesting topic birat val lagile sir and krishnakhi ba❤🙏
Val lagil sir💖
Such a well read person
Many many thanks
বুৰঞ্জীৰ ওপৰত যথেষ্ট জ্ঞান আছে আপোনাৰ। বহুত ভাল লাগিল।। কিন্তু, আপুনি " তাহাতৰ" বুলি কৈ থকাটো ভাল নালাগে।। তেখেত সকলৰ বুলি কব।।
Thanku so much baa onurudh tu rokhar babe bhut vll lgil lots of love❤
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❤❤❤❤❤❤Apuni aru val val video di thakibo
Best podcast❤
Very very rich ,fabulous discussion
I am not Assamese but I am respectful Assamese language
Great talk
জয়মতী কুঁৱৰীৰ ত্যাগৰ লগত তুলনা কৰিব পৰা বিশ্বৰ আৰু কিবা উদাহৰণ আছে নেকি জনাবচোন৷
অনুষ্ঠানটো চাই মোৰ বহুত ভাল লাগে
Moja ❤
Waooo fantastic Comments.❤❤
35:14 sir aitu hisapot ami english t Assam nhoi "AXOM" likhibo lge snn
British, during their colonial rule in India, adapted the name "Axom" to "Assam."
You really bloom to be a legendary scholar
অসমক অসম বুলিয়েই সকলোৱে কব লাগে কাৰন অসম এটা নাম হয় কাৰোবাৰ নামটো উচ্চাৰন কৰিব নোৱাৰে কাৰনে নামটো সলাই পেলোৱাৰ অধিকাৰ হয়টো কাৰো নাই আমি ভাৰতৰ নামটো সকলো ভাষাটেই ভাৰত বুলিয়েই কম এই বিশেষ চিন্তা কন আপুনি ধূনীয়াকৈ উপস্হাপন কৰিব বুলি আশা কৰিলো joi i A$OM
Joi ai axom
Bihari, Bengali, Marwadi, Telegu aybilak kio Axomiya manibo lage. Lagile kunubai Mur rayjor karone mori y deok. Sabi ja Bihar, Bengal, Delhi t tuk khihotor manuh bhabe neki
Eixaar kothar xoite xohomot prokakh koru moi. Thik ase jixokol iyate jonmo hoise, iyar festival bur bhl pai, axomiyar logot aan aan jibur bhaxa ase axomor, bhal pai, bhal kotha. Kintu they are not Assamese.
Dukh loga kotha j eman val ata video r emn kom views
Khosa
Bengali people and language is the oldest ethnic group of india with respect for assamese
এক সুন্দৰ অনুষ্ঠানৰ অংশীদাৰ হবলৈ পায় ভাগ্যৱান বুলি ভাবিছো নিজকে ।ধন্যবাদ
Hosakoi,emaan besi vaal lagil episode tu baidew, enekuwa episode bisarisu aakou ❤
Manuhe nsai dekhun val content bur nohoi ne
Baa Kalita xokolor bikhoye Loi ata episode kribasun Kalita xokol nu kor pra oha
Kalita xokolor History janibo bisaru Please
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Yes,I'm also kalita, even I'm confused about my community.Whether,they are indigenous or not.
@@andrewzzzz3686 Kalita hokol Axomor Kayastha hisape porisoi hoi aru origin Kshatriya clan r pora oha . Aru Kalita hokol first Aryan immigrants of Assam hoi.
@@sudarshandutta3205 You are totally wrong.That kayastha thing is a gotra like feature used original in up, haryana, Punjab Rajasthan belt.They were like Brahmin people with ethnically similarly.Also,these type of identity like kayastha is quite complex to study as many people claim them.
Also,that kayastha thing is quite commonly used in bengali community where they claim to be something illogicaly.
And that Kayastha reference in relation to kalita was for kalita who do administration work.Many bengali claim kalita to be part of their people meaning same kayastha people, which is wrong.
Yes, kalita people were non-mongoloid people.But ,they were like a community or tribe.They came to Assam before 10th to 8th century.(It is also seems that Bhaskar braman belong to kalita or he may be was a kachari king).But,kalita were living together with various kachari tribes during kamrupa times.They functioned as working for adminstration works, soldiers etc.Later they also rulled kamrupa that is for sure.They after kamrupa collapsed,they became baro- bhuyans which again served as soldiers mostly.
That is the history of kalita tribe. Shankar Dev was a kalita.Prithu was maybe a kalita,but his baro bhuyans minister were definitely kalitas.
Thats it
Next episode: Tribal history and haritage. তেখেতৰ সৈতে
তিৱা ৰজা জোঙাল বলহু আৰু তিৱা গোভা ৰাজ্য, জোনবিল মেলা আদি বিষয়ে জানে যদি ক’ব চোন🙏
Assamese Nitish Rajput ❤❤❤
In Ahom language there are a group of words 'bi - hu - Jon' which means ঘুৰি ঘুৰি গা ভাঙি কৰা নচা নাচ'। The word বিহু was derived from this group of word.
Bisu word Tu kr pora hl??
Bihur logot Ahomar aku hamporko nasil. Hihote adopt korise matra
"জালিয়া কেওট "আৰু "হালুৱা কেওট" কি? দুয়োবিধ ৰ origin যদি মংগোল হয় তেন্তে reservation অকল জালিয়া সকলে কিয় পায়
Sosake eman val lagile bohot khini kotha janibo parilu ❤❤❤❤❤
Ma'am!! Modern history karone Izaaz sirok matibo
You made Bodo, Rabha, Mising feel bad about their language by calling this state Assam and imposing Assamese language. So they changed their mother language to get jobs. Stop saying they are Assamese.
Loudspeakers opinion on our tribes is not accepted
Bro survival of the fittest. You have problem then change it like a man, don't whin like a coward.
Marc tur ma’am asene
So you are saying we should impose every language as an official language?
@@garc9192 bodo jungless fut
Hii kuku.. Val ne.. Tumar video burole agrohere roi thaku
Thnk u bohut
বিশ্বাস কৰক বা বহীত লিখি গৈ আছোঁ,,,,আনক বুকু ফুলাই টো কব পাৰিব লাগিব ন,,,, তাতে আকৌ বিহু বলিয়া,,,,note নকৰাকৈ নাথাকিলো,,,বাকী আপোনাৰ সাক্ষাৎকাৰ চাও ভাল লাগে বহুত ❤,,, আগুৱাই যাওক বহু দূৰ,,,,🎉❤🎉
Thnk uu
@@Talkunfilteredassamesepodcast ❤️🥰
মই নিজক কামৰূপী বুলি পৰিচয় দিওঁ
Moiu notes bonai loisuh baido .
But video tu late ke paisuh
Tumar e khta koise jen paisu..tumi notes bonai loisa buli...😊
Rule no. 1: Never learn history from a muslim.
Lachit Borphukan will be very proud of present day Assamese people siding with the Mughals and laughing at the peaceful Bengali Hindus. 😁
Prothom ktha Ami akhomiya hoi amar major kun Hindu Muslim bhag koribo toi kun aru lachit borphukon e mugal birudhe juj disil gutei musolman community r babe nohoi aru Ami sob dhormok honman korib janu tohotor nisina Ami nohoi buiso
Sick minds keep away
Moi guru jonar bixhoa jona mote jodi roja jonok xhoron dele hoi roja jone proja xhokolok nije lowa dharma loboloi baidhya korile hoi tar karone roja jonok xhoron nidile🙏🙏
এটা এটা বিষয় তিনি চাৰিটা খণ্ডত কৰক পাৰিলে, বেছি চমু হৈ পৰিছে
Vurukat vorala hati sankar guru this is unique
Mekhela sador kene ulal
As far ik the chest wrap (riha) became sador after the introduction of blouse b
ইটাখুলি ৰণ খনৰ বিষয়ে এটা পডকাস্ট দিব বুলি আশা থাকিল
Bohut bohut val lagil,sir k akou matiba
Bihu is originally Bodo
Bisu in Dimasa
Pisu in Tiwa
Difference in phonetics
Bisuwa in koch rajbongshi