I have made a version 2! (and 2.1, which is a slight color variant on Hail) you can check that out here -> twitter.com/TheSpyV/status/1247603776770449412?s=20 Ideally in character design you want you want to draw out several versions and then pick the best one or mix the best elements of all the designs to get the final look. I didn't do that for the video because of time constraints, but I still wanted to make an alternate version and adjustments I thought may improve the design. I also wonder if several versions were done for the original designs and if so what was scrapped in favor of the monstrosity we got. In this new version, I left the top halves of the designs alone, and mostly changed the bottom. Hail I leaned more into the Japanese style inspiration to give her a lighter more agile appearance. Haven I wanted to make look a bit less like a jock and more a hero and changed his outfit to a unitard with some geometric designs to break up the dark color. I also took away the fabric around his waist, as it no longer felt right with the changes. Let me know which version you like better or if you'd like some elements from the first and second together! Have a great day ya'll.
These are good, I like version two better. I really wasnt expecting somthing decent here, there are a bunch of redesigns that turn out weaker but not this one. Its modern, its simple. I instantly had the, "this is good" vibe when I saw it.
There's still a few good writers such as nick spencer,dan slott etc it's just the mcu and insomniac games pushed good writers in the world of movies or gaming or comic sales are slumpy because of manga
Have an opinion all you want my dude. Just know that if you come on people videos sounding like your recruiting for a cult, referring to me as “whitelady” and talking about “his dark wisdom” people are gonna call you weird
@@whitealliance9540 How about using quarantine time to better your understanding of other people's opinions and maybe pick up a book on literature? Sounds like a better use of your time than ranting and complaining on a very highly positive and creative RUclips video.
You see, these designs are eyecatching, and you can SEE the thought put into them even without your descriptions. If it was something like this marvel made, there wouldn't be nearly this much backlash
Personally I would have went with Lineback as a name for Safe Space. Mostly because of the power and jock description. "Can only shield other people", that's what linemen do. For their quarterbacks and runners acting as their shield is their primary function. It could also be that I had recently finished reading Eyeshield 21 (Football Manga) and had it on the brain.
Biecie Jack good idea, I think Safety would also work well. It’s pretty close to the original name and it is also a football position. While not as direct as a lineman, a Safety is quite literally the last line of defense keeping the opposing team from scoring, so it’s not too far of a stretch for his powers. Also I’ll have to check out that manga, I didn’t know that a sports manga for American football was a thing!
Another good name would be Blind Side. Y-You know, that one football player that is supposed to protect the Quarterback and comes in from the blind side. A protector, essentially. I might've also watched the movie.
YA-HAAAAAAAAAAA!! BRUUUUHH THIS IS MY FAVORITE SPORTS ANIME I JUST WOOOOHHHHH!! My mind went "ONE toki wo koete tokihanatta mihatenu yumetachi " the moment I read Eyeshield 21 in your comment XD HAHAHA THIS ANIME/MANGA IS SO AWESOOOMEE! ✧(๑✪д✪)۶
Can´t wait for a movie of the new "New Warriors"... but I ask myself: "Which actor/actres would give theyr body and soul for a [still found no word for it] like that?"
The practicality of Safe space outfit is dumb. He needs to be more protective considering he can create shields for himself. He need protective armour. Stab and bullet proof outfits and fatigues. I might do are-design myself. Good stuff.
I hate the term woke, it’s stupid and a blanket term that gets used for anything female, lgbt, anything with protecting the environment extra. These characters are not woke. They are badly designed, insensitive and reductive. Let’s collectively throw out the term “woke”. I love your new designs!
The thing that gets me the most about this 'ha we switched the traditional gender colours aren't we so woke' thing is that those 'traditional' colour codes are less than a hundred years old (invented by infant clothing magazines in 1927 so people would buy two sets of everything instead of handing down from one kid to the next) and at the time *pink was for boys*. "Pink, being the stronger colour, is more suitable for the male, while blue, being more dainty and delicate, is prettier for the lady". This isn't 'switching the gender rolls', its going back to how it was when it was originally made up! If you *really* want to mess with the gender rolls bullshit, stop colour coding them in the first place! Go with purple and yellow, white and gold, green and orange...something other than tired old, completely made up 'pink and blue'. Also, if 'Snowflake' is supposed to be non binary, than you (Marvel) have messed up even more, because now you're now your not even subverting the gender colour code nonsense. You've made a boy wear pink, but you have not made a girl wear blue. Y'know what would be woke characters? A pair of psychic twins who both know their genders but are kind of androgynous and decide not to tell anyone, letting everyone guess so that no one can try to pigeon hole them *or* use them to promote gender divides in either direction.
The sad thing is I think the snowflake design could work on her own and just make her a straight up ice elemental instead of the whole shuriken weeabo stuff. And for disclosure I'm a narutard and dbz worshiper
I am neither but I could see [Hail] learning to grow most powerful to a limit. There is NO WAY she would ever match Iceman, who IS a Ice Elemental, but being able to be highly effective in a real fight, I could see.
Why is literally every redesign of these characters better than the originals? Like every one of them I’m like, “I would be willing to give these people a chance... Then again maybe a portion of it is that I love heroes that use such a pastel theming to their main colors and pairs of heroes matched on the hot cold spectrum of color. They were bland in original design but not bad. Like a lot of good concepts that I could see working if they didn’t have the least possible stuff to their design. Nothing iconic. Hell, that Mr. T redesign of Safespace paired with your redesign of Snowflake(I know you changed the name but I’m making a point here) would have been a really good match for what they claimed they wanted to do with these characters.
The name "Safespace" can actually work if you change the power to "imprisorment" like they are trapping people into a space where they can suffer no harm but they also can't get out off easily AKA trapping someone in their literal safe space. Not my idea stole it from a friend who stole it from a random guy on tweeter
I feel like most twins are always group together and no matter how strong your connection is with your twin you don’t want to be seen as the same person as your twin because you are two different people and you want people to know that like your outfits you don’t have to be the same to show that you have a good connection with your twin like that’s all in the way they interact with each other and honestly the power couldve reflected their connection but they don’t really. The best connection I can make is that snowflake is the offense And when they need defense they have a safe space to count on.
I agree. Funnily enough I'm nonbinairy and I'm part of a triplet sadly my sister died so I only have my brother. The bond between us is remarkable but our personalities do clash a lot. Being a twin or triplet doesn't mean that you get along and want to be with them all the time.
being transgender and being called a ''special snowflake" for being me, you can see why i particularly hate this "nonbinary character" that they probably going to make a girl then said no lets be trendy, no i'm not nonbinary but i highly doubt anyone struggling through transitioning sees this piece of corporal shit that is made just to make money would make them feel better, it looks like a five year old made the original. you made a way better version, this shows how much people in the business mind set care about how people feel.
Right on about how this kind of pandering low level character design isn't what the trans community wants. We, like everyone else, want characters who are fully formed characters, not flat personifications of an identity
When a 11 minute video puts more thought into these characters then the marvel writing staff. To be honest I actually like safespace's design snowflake and their trash powerset are the ones that kills it for me.
One thing I want to address in general. Marvel as a whole isn’t responsible for these characters, the numbskull writers and/or character designers are responsible. I personally would love to see these characters done right (and given much better names than the original) as a bi girl and a friend of many trans, non-binary, and other lgbt people. I’m glad that the nerd community as a whole came together and just put their foot down with these characters though.
For their personality. I have Hail be really pissed off when fighting and have oftentimes accidentally throw chunks of ice at civilians when fighting villains while Haven has to go out of his way to protect those innocents with his force field. In a way, this brings conflict between the two and have an arc of Haven trying to help Hail with their rage issues.
Love the commentary aspect of this video. I think you bring a lot of good points in a very clear and concise way and your delivery is really nice. Your re-designs are obviously better than the originals too (those are just the definition of ''ughh'') and honestly, after watching most of your videos, I just really like your content and I'll be definitely looking out for more. :)
Infinitely better than the originals. I genuinely thought that these characters were some kind of joke when I first heard about them. It's just such a poorly put together concept with an even worse execution. It's insulting that they felt something like this would be good representation.
Yah i think that snowflake and safe space looking like a ninja is cool but I think that they should have hoodies and where like spy stuff like they’re hiding from the law.
Plz remember me when u hit one million, you deserve so many more subscribers, whilst watching this video I was thinking u had more like 1 mil subs but honestly I didn’t expect in a million years to see 35 u deserve so many more
I actually really like that blue sash you added to Snowflake's costume, I'm a sucker for a good sash, but Captain Marvel is usually the only one who can pull those off successfully.
I do like that you built off of what the characters and improved upon it, rather than trying to change them completely with no regard or respect to the original artist like what many artists (lookin’ at you, tumblr... you too, pretty much anyone who has attempted to “fix” these characters) seem to be doing! Built upon the concepts without changing the designs too much. With that said, this is a very good!
You know in my mind when saw new warriors and the soyboy who drew them I could not, for my life comprehend the decisions that made hire this guy and them looking at it and agreeing to let be published to pubic there has to be adult there. I can't even... Ugh it's makes my head hurt.
I like the re-designs just fell like they need a lil more color at the top. Could've maybe made Hails braids blue at the top and the rest of the hair black as for Haven could have made the scarf pink.
"Hail and Haven" - That's fucking excellent! Your friend is a genius. And your art is amazing. Not just due to how it looks, but because of the ideas behind it as well. You clearly put a lot of thought into it. You should be proud of this. And this is coming someone who thinks this whole thing is silly...
Wow, right before my eyes I see someone use thoughtfulness and effort and create something appealing. Marvel, you had one job, and your failing. Nice redesign!
These designs look a heck of a lot better than the eyesores Marvel produced. The dreads are cool and they look much more modern and people I'd probably actually see out on the street.
I'm glad you made them look different, because not all twins are identical twins. For instance, there are twins in my school that have different colored hair and eyes too. Much more creative! Hail and Haven are awesome, and I would actually read a comic with these two
I bloody love this redesign and renaming. I would add a little more of their colors at or close to their faces, but aside from that I am itching to make fanart of these two and I hope I will get the time and energy to attempt it. This is a really satisfying design!
You're new design is so wonderful!!!!😍🥰 Maybe I'm a bit bias because I have dreads too 😏, and the stile remains me of Static Shock 😁. But I SERIOUSLY love your take on these characters. 👏👍😁👍
actually the designs work really well Hslr gives off that Mulaun vibe where you can kinda see something unfer the surface but aren't totally sure. nicely done
I only thought of this as a way to make the twins better but if they had a combat style that incorporates Capoiera where Safe uses his physical strength to fling Snow around then he could put shields around her to stop her from getting hurt kind of like how colossus used Wolverine as a human bullet, but instead it's their entire combat style but they suck still.
The New, New Warriors comic is doomed no matter how you look at it. It's not going to sell. At all. However, given what you had to work with for a redesign, your rendition is a hundred times better than what we've got in the actual book. I absolutely commend you for your work. Great job.
Snowflakes chest piece felt so familiar to me in the design for some reason, and then i remembered that the exact same vest wears Vergil fro DMC series.
And this is why I trust independent creators more. You put more thought into these redesigns than Kibblesmith put into his entire 'New New Warriors' premise.
I like the names. They're clever in a self parody/self aware way. Better than generic names they usually go with for D tier characters that will only appear in 2 issues. The book will probably be trash, but the names are unique.
The names and redesigns is much better then the original your an amazing artist Creative individuals like yourself is what Marvel and DC needed instead of they had as they were going down over the years!?!
So far the internet have worked together to give popular names for these 2. These names start like these Snowblade and barricade haven and hail. Ice star and cage. Cryofreak and barrier.
@@TheSpyV Thanks! Ok, I'm familiar with them. I have a Wacom CTH-461 I got a long time ago. I've been trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to work with my new PC. When I downloaded the drivers & finally got it working it stopped PS from working. So maybe it's just outdated. I appreciate the response, thanks again. 😊
This time, Marvel finally managed to succeed in pissing everybody off altogether no matter who stood on what side. Also I’d like to take a moment to show love to your redesign as it makes these characters look individual while reminding us that they’re twins and it isn’t a damn eyesore.
Dude this showed up on my homepage and I expected this person to have more subscribers, but they only have 209? I have a feeling this channel is gonna blow up, count me in as #210
SpyV I genuinely think you’re gonna go far. You have great art skills and your commentary is very good. A lot of people who start doing commentary are usually very awkward, stutter, or just have awkward silences. You genuinely have a skill for this
Now, the redesign actually makes them seem like people I would *actually know.* They look like actual PEOPLE. I'm getting into the acting community in Atlanta, and I know someone who could straight up play this version of Haven. Not to mention Haven and Hail are just the COOLEST NAMES. It's SO much easier to remember than Snowflake and Safespace, and it has real power and gravitas to them, while also connecting them thematically while not making them exclusively joined at the hip. Like I can see "Oh Hail just joined the new West Coast Avengers while Haven is with the Guardians of the Galaxy"
Great job on the redesigns. Look so much better. Wondering what you can do for the rest of them. And who was the one with the good design? B negative? At least he’s the only one with a halfway decent design. Though I do wish he wore a bit less hot pink.
B-Negative was the only one I’d consider “fine” I’d have gone with more colors than just the hot pink to give that 90s-Early 2000s vibe. I thought about doing the rest though at this point I’m not certain it’s still a super relevant topic lol
I have made a version 2! (and 2.1, which is a slight color variant on Hail) you can check that out here -> twitter.com/TheSpyV/status/1247603776770449412?s=20
Ideally in character design you want you want to draw out several versions and then pick the best one or mix the best elements of all the designs to get the final look. I didn't do that for the video because of time constraints, but I still wanted to make an alternate version and adjustments I thought may improve the design. I also wonder if several versions were done for the original designs and if so what was scrapped in favor of the monstrosity we got.
In this new version, I left the top halves of the designs alone, and mostly changed the bottom. Hail I leaned more into the Japanese style inspiration to give her a lighter more agile appearance. Haven I wanted to make look a bit less like a jock and more a hero and changed his outfit to a unitard with some geometric designs to break up the dark color. I also took away the fabric around his waist, as it no longer felt right with the changes. Let me know which version you like better or if you'd like some elements from the first and second together! Have a great day ya'll.
These are good, I like version two better. I really wasnt expecting somthing decent here, there are a bunch of redesigns that turn out weaker but not this one. Its modern, its simple. I instantly had the, "this is good" vibe when I saw it.
Wow they looks like the warlocks of Destiny
@Ascended XD HEY i like the names
@Ascended one with opressive darkness and the other with guillotine
I guess it is pretty off topic but do anybody know of a good site to stream new tv shows online?
“Hail” and “Haven” is sick asf
Its awesome. Esp when you flip it. Haven and Hail. The phrasing really shines. Makes me even angrier at Marvel.
Much better names
TAKE👏👋FUCKIN👏👏NOTES 👏MARVEL
Legit
that's so much better ngl
I love how they kinda forgot to give Snowflake a personality.
WasabiLover Because obviously all nonbinary people act exactly the same
Braeden Roby ok
Braeden Roby boomer
@Braeden Roby Ok, RUclips user Braeden Roby.
@Braeden Roby Im gonna cry lmao, are you serious?
The gap that Stan Lee's passing has left is really starting to show.
Is going to be like the dark age of disney
@@jellybean1528
Yup when stan lee died he took the real marvel with him.
There's still a few good writers such as nick spencer,dan slott etc it's just the mcu and insomniac games pushed good writers in the world of movies or gaming or comic sales are slumpy because of manga
Damn, Marvel should hire you for character design.
I’m very sorry that the weirdos seemed to have latched onto your comment to reply to....
Just more things to add into my cringe collection kek
Have an opinion all you want my dude. Just know that if you come on people videos sounding like your recruiting for a cult, referring to me as “whitelady” and talking about “his dark wisdom” people are gonna call you weird
@@whitealliance9540 How about using quarantine time to better your understanding of other people's opinions and maybe pick up a book on literature? Sounds like a better use of your time than ranting and complaining on a very highly positive and creative RUclips video.
@@whitealliance9540 What in the name of fuck are you on about...?
“The new warriors!”
Featuring:
Google boy!
Edgelord!
Dora the explorer!
Marvel Elsa!
And cheap knock-off captain America!
I would have gone with Black Steven Universe but that's good too.
*Dora The Explorer Obese Edition!
Marvel Steven Universe**
*google glasses
"Problematic teen girl "
More characters need dreads. They look so nice and more characters need to have them
Depends on who it is. Some people look better without, some look great in them.
Dreads are good.
Cornrows not so much.
Also they can make the hair easier to draw.
I don't like dreads
@@christophercar7447 nobody asked
You see, these designs are eyecatching, and you can SEE the thought put into them even without your descriptions. If it was something like this marvel made, there wouldn't be nearly this much backlash
Personally I would have went with Lineback as a name for Safe Space. Mostly because of the power and jock description. "Can only shield other people", that's what linemen do. For their quarterbacks and runners acting as their shield is their primary function. It could also be that I had recently finished reading Eyeshield 21 (Football Manga) and had it on the brain.
Biecie Jack good idea, I think Safety would also work well. It’s pretty close to the original name and it is also a football position. While not as direct as a lineman, a Safety is quite literally the last line of defense keeping the opposing team from scoring, so it’s not too far of a stretch for his powers. Also I’ll have to check out that manga, I didn’t know that a sports manga for American football was a thing!
@@dr.spycrab4089 The manga is so damn good. The art is so damn pleasing to read.
Another good name would be Blind Side. Y-You know, that one football player that is supposed to protect the Quarterback and comes in from the blind side. A protector, essentially. I might've also watched the movie.
YA-HAAAAAAAAAAA!! BRUUUUHH THIS IS MY FAVORITE SPORTS ANIME I JUST WOOOOHHHHH!!
My mind went "ONE toki wo koete tokihanatta mihatenu yumetachi
" the moment I read Eyeshield 21 in your comment XD HAHAHA
THIS ANIME/MANGA IS SO AWESOOOMEE! ✧(๑✪д✪)۶
thats my favorite sports manga
Wait their names are actually ”Snowflake” and ”Safespace”? That honestly got a laugh out of me.
Can´t wait for a movie of the new "New Warriors"...
but I ask myself: "Which actor/actres would give theyr body and soul for a [still found no word for it] like that?"
Blaize it’s like naming a black hero Negro Man and give him something stereotypical like super speed or climbing abilities
@@Crispycream08
Why did I fucking laughed
@@Crispycream08 Ain't that Black Noir from The Boys ? LOL. *Sigh* I love that PI shit.
@@leonelril3230 Slight spoiler, but Black Noir isn't black...
The practicality of Safe space outfit is dumb. He needs to be more protective considering he can create shields for himself. He need protective armour. Stab and bullet proof outfits and fatigues. I might do are-design myself. Good stuff.
Yeah, with the cyclist outfit he's wearing, he can be taken out in seconds, then you can deal with the others now there's nothing getting in the way.
I hate the term woke, it’s stupid and a blanket term that gets used for anything female, lgbt, anything with protecting the environment extra.
These characters are not woke. They are badly designed, insensitive and reductive. Let’s collectively throw out the term “woke”.
I love your new designs!
The thing that gets me the most about this 'ha we switched the traditional gender colours aren't we so woke' thing is that those 'traditional' colour codes are less than a hundred years old (invented by infant clothing magazines in 1927 so people would buy two sets of everything instead of handing down from one kid to the next) and at the time *pink was for boys*. "Pink, being the stronger colour, is more suitable for the male, while blue, being more dainty and delicate, is prettier for the lady". This isn't 'switching the gender rolls', its going back to how it was when it was originally made up! If you *really* want to mess with the gender rolls bullshit, stop colour coding them in the first place! Go with purple and yellow, white and gold, green and orange...something other than tired old, completely made up 'pink and blue'.
Also, if 'Snowflake' is supposed to be non binary, than you (Marvel) have messed up even more, because now you're now your not even subverting the gender colour code nonsense. You've made a boy wear pink, but you have not made a girl wear blue.
Y'know what would be woke characters? A pair of psychic twins who both know their genders but are kind of androgynous and decide not to tell anyone, letting everyone guess so that no one can try to pigeon hole them *or* use them to promote gender divides in either direction.
The sad thing is I think the snowflake design could work on her own and just make her a straight up ice elemental instead of the whole shuriken weeabo stuff. And for disclosure I'm a narutard and dbz worshiper
I’m a dbzworshipper too
I am neither but I could see [Hail] learning to grow most powerful to a limit. There is NO WAY she would ever match Iceman, who IS a Ice Elemental, but being able to be highly effective in a real fight, I could see.
They're
@@Cybo-18 ur my people
@@DocWolph what would be cool is if she specialized in hail storms and she could change the shape and size so I guess fitting in the ice shuriken
Tundra and Forge were my ideas for names
I like the very Nordic vibes from those names
thx
Alas Forge is already taken. (X-men)
Tundra is actually really cool especially considering it was Kuai Liang's codename before he adopted Sub-zero
Giving us Lin Kuei T's
Hail and Haven is a more original and genius name.
Love the rework they have more character than the original bland roller derby shaved head style.
I love how everyone is redesigning the characters and showing Marvel how bad they dropped their standards.
Why is literally every redesign of these characters better than the originals?
Like every one of them I’m like, “I would be willing to give these people a chance...
Then again maybe a portion of it is that I love heroes that use such a pastel theming to their main colors and pairs of heroes matched on the hot cold spectrum of color.
They were bland in original design but not bad. Like a lot of good concepts that I could see working if they didn’t have the least possible stuff to their design. Nothing iconic. Hell, that Mr. T redesign of Safespace paired with your redesign of Snowflake(I know you changed the name but I’m making a point here) would have been a really good match for what they claimed they wanted to do with these characters.
Nah, there is a good 80% of these that just sucks .. including this one..
Renard Dubois Subjective, but I can respect your stance. None of them are as iconic and oddly reflective of the character as the DCAU Static Shock
Any and every design of these characters I’ve seen still suck ass
Renard Dubois this one is actually pretty good (in my opinion)
What's the saying "get woke; Go Broke." I like Hail and Haven. And any alliteration is a plus for superheroes
I thought that Snowflake and Safe Space were Daniel Kibbelsmith trolling. Your redesign is so much better, especially the title, Hale and Haven.
The name "Safespace" can actually work if you change the power to "imprisorment" like they are trapping people into a space where they can suffer no harm but they also can't get out off easily AKA trapping someone in their literal safe space.
Not my idea stole it from a friend who stole it from a random guy on tweeter
I would've called them Locksmith
I feel like most twins are always group together and no matter how strong your connection is with your twin you don’t want to be seen as the same person as your twin because you are two different people and you want people to know that like your outfits you don’t have to be the same to show that you have a good connection with your twin like that’s all in the way they interact with each other and honestly the power couldve reflected their connection but they don’t really. The best connection I can make is that snowflake is the offense And when they need defense they have a safe space to count on.
I agree. Funnily enough I'm nonbinairy and I'm part of a triplet sadly my sister died so I only have my brother. The bond between us is remarkable but our personalities do clash a lot. Being a twin or triplet doesn't mean that you get along and want to be with them all the time.
being transgender and being called a ''special snowflake" for being me, you can see why i particularly hate this "nonbinary character" that they probably going to make a girl then said no lets be trendy, no i'm not nonbinary but i highly doubt anyone struggling through transitioning sees this piece of corporal shit that is made just to make money would make them feel better, it looks like a five year old made the original. you made a way better version, this shows how much people in the business mind set care about how people feel.
That is indeed how I feel I'm nonbinairy. And I just don't want to be associated with this mess. But I like this design better than the original.
Right on about how this kind of pandering low level character design isn't what the trans community wants. We, like everyone else, want characters who are fully formed characters, not flat personifications of an identity
Holy shit the names are SO much better and of course the designs! Amazing work!
honestly the original design looks like a fanart... Idk what it is, but doesn't look like other character's reference sheet
When a 11 minute video puts more thought into these characters then the marvel writing staff.
To be honest I actually like safespace's design snowflake and their trash powerset are the ones that kills it for me.
One thing I want to address in general. Marvel as a whole isn’t responsible for these characters, the numbskull writers and/or character designers are responsible. I personally would love to see these characters done right (and given much better names than the original) as a bi girl and a friend of many trans, non-binary, and other lgbt people. I’m glad that the nerd community as a whole came together and just put their foot down with these characters though.
For their personality. I have Hail be really pissed off when fighting and have oftentimes accidentally throw chunks of ice at civilians when fighting villains while Haven has to go out of his way to protect those innocents with his force field. In a way, this brings conflict between the two and have an arc of Haven trying to help Hail with their rage issues.
Oh, Oh! Or have Hail be the calm, stoic one who has to keep Haven (who's always trying to pick a fight with someone) out of harm's way
Love the commentary aspect of this video. I think you bring a lot of good points in a very clear and concise way and your delivery is really nice. Your re-designs are obviously better than the originals too (those are just the definition of ''ughh'') and honestly, after watching most of your videos, I just really like your content and I'll be definitely looking out for more. :)
Ah thank you Crimsy! I’ve been watching more of your videos lately too and love what you do ❤️
For names, SafeSpace is supposed to be a jock, so something like Nosegaurd would work as a name too.
That Star Wars Girl named her redesign Safeguard.
Hinatachan360 I didn’t get to stay for the whole stream, but that’s a good name too!
Infinitely better than the originals.
I genuinely thought that these characters were some kind of joke when I first heard about them. It's just such a poorly put together concept with an even worse execution. It's insulting that they felt something like this would be good representation.
Yah i think that snowflake and safe space looking like a ninja is cool but I think that they should have hoodies and where like spy stuff like they’re hiding from the law.
thats a tasty redesign. love that you kept the non-binary aspect of hail instead of tossing it like other redesigners.
Just about every redesign I have seen of these characters is better than the original, and this is no exception. Well done by the way!
It almost makes me angrier how better you made it work. Not only it reflects your talent but it also shows what a God awful marvel did
Imagine, there’s a superhero, who’s non-binary..and their name is Snowflake.
You fixed 2 of my main problems with the official design.
1. The random buzz cut
2. The large amounts of Neon on them for some reason.
Plz remember me when u hit one million, you deserve so many more subscribers, whilst watching this video I was thinking u had more like 1 mil subs but honestly I didn’t expect in a million years to see 35 u deserve so many more
Aw thank you! I appreciate the support. Hopefully we’ll get there one day! (Sorry my internet was bad and sent that 3 times)
Wow Marvel... This is just some woman on youtube doing 1.000.000 times better on every end of your job...
Nice one!
Waaaaay better than what they put out. Great job, first time watching your channel but already interested in more of your content. 👍
Thanks! Hope you like all that I have to offer
Damn this looks good
This is outstanding :00 I would definitely watch a whole series of you redesigning bad superhero characters / cartoon characters!!
Ladies and gentlemen I introduce you to marvels attempt at frozone and violet.
I like your redesigns, this is already 10 times as better than the original.
I actually really like that blue sash you added to Snowflake's costume, I'm a sucker for a good sash, but Captain Marvel is usually the only one who can pull those off successfully.
man its almost like literally everyone can make a better design but also great job on the character design
2:45 Someone once called me pig-face and now I'm nicknamed Orc, that's how you own an insult.
I do like that you built off of what the characters and improved upon it, rather than trying to change them completely with no regard or respect to the original artist like what many artists (lookin’ at you, tumblr... you too, pretty much anyone who has attempted to “fix” these characters) seem to be doing! Built upon the concepts without changing the designs too much.
With that said, this is a very good!
Haven and Hail... Oh man, you're awesome.
I'm impressed you managed to turn a couple ridiculous characters into palatable ones.
You know in my mind when saw new warriors and the soyboy who drew them I could not, for my life comprehend the decisions that made hire this guy and them looking at it and agreeing to let be published to pubic there has to be adult there. I can't even... Ugh it's makes my head hurt.
He's somewhat popular with the people Marvel thinks are their new customer base. That was the entire logic behind it!
This is how a good character designer makes characters
This is the best one for keeping the basic concepts where possible. Name changes are excellent
YOOO this redesign is amazing. The design, their expression, the color palettes and thought you out just screams badass.
3:15 I know right?? That pose makes them look like a couple.
We NEED to start a petition for more marvel characters to have dreads cause this looking fucking awesome!
Haven straight up looks like he is a linebacker. 10/10 very nice redesign.
Wow. Was mesmerized watching you work, not just in the design but in your thought process. Never heard of your channel before but definitely a fan now
I like the re-designs just fell like they need a lil more color at the top. Could've maybe made Hails braids blue at the top and the rest of the hair black as for Haven could have made the scarf pink.
Your designs are the best redesigns I've seen between the two characters! Way more detailed and unique then the original ones! Good work
"Hail and Haven" - That's fucking excellent! Your friend is a genius.
And your art is amazing.
Not just due to how it looks, but because of the ideas behind it as well. You clearly put a lot of thought into it.
You should be proud of this.
And this is coming someone who thinks this whole thing is silly...
Wow; I can almost take them seriously now.
Wow, right before my eyes I see someone use thoughtfulness and effort and create something appealing. Marvel, you had one job, and your failing. Nice redesign!
Ugh I can't stop looking at your redesign. It's so satisfying 😍
The way you say Individuality is so freaking adorable!
These designs look a heck of a lot better than the eyesores Marvel produced. The dreads are cool and they look much more modern and people I'd probably actually see out on the street.
Tbh at least this gives people ample opportunity to go ham on redesigning and rewriting these characters to actually, you know, WORK.
you know you did things right when you have more support than the original
I'm glad you made them look different, because not all twins are identical twins. For instance, there are twins in my school that have different colored hair and eyes too. Much more creative! Hail and Haven are awesome, and I would actually read a comic with these two
I love the names so much omg, they're literally perfect help-
Also the designs are awesome, definitely so much better than the original.
Usually I’m against “fixing” somebody’s art but this is completely warranted
Thanks for this, i got fed up of people simply pointing out the same points and same complaints, i wanted something like a drawing.
I bloody love this redesign and renaming. I would add a little more of their colors at or close to their faces, but aside from that I am itching to make fanart of these two and I hope I will get the time and energy to attempt it. This is a really satisfying design!
they look so good black kids could def get into these characters. haven looks like an athlete not just a dude who is an athlete because he said so
You're new design is so wonderful!!!!😍🥰
Maybe I'm a bit bias because I have dreads too 😏, and the stile remains me of Static Shock 😁.
But I SERIOUSLY love your take on these characters. 👏👍😁👍
God this design is so much better than marvel's original. Thank you
actually the designs work really well Hslr gives off that Mulaun vibe where you can kinda see something unfer the surface but aren't totally sure.
nicely done
Their new design + names like HAIL & HAVEN = I can now actually take them seriously
I only thought of this as a way to make the twins better but if they had a combat style that incorporates Capoiera where Safe uses his physical strength to fling Snow around then he could put shields around her to stop her from getting hurt kind of like how colossus used Wolverine as a human bullet, but instead it's their entire combat style but they suck still.
The New, New Warriors comic is doomed no matter how you look at it. It's not going to sell. At all. However, given what you had to work with for a redesign, your rendition is a hundred times better than what we've got in the actual book. I absolutely commend you for your work. Great job.
Snowflakes chest piece felt so familiar to me in the design for some reason, and then i remembered that the exact same vest wears Vergil fro DMC series.
You’d think that a company that was built on superheroes would be better at designing Superheroes
And this is why I trust independent creators more. You put more thought into these redesigns than Kibblesmith put into his entire 'New New Warriors' premise.
I still can't believe someone decided this was a good idea.
I'm living in a fucking fever dream.
Your redesigns look beautiful! The actual characters should look more like this and adopt these names!
This right here is what we need. Also how do you not have more subs?
"Hail and Haven" look awesome! Love the new names and costumes!
I love your re-design of them!
I like the names. They're clever in a self parody/self aware way. Better than generic names they usually go with for D tier characters that will only appear in 2 issues. The book will probably be trash, but the names are unique.
The names and redesigns is much better then the original your an amazing artist
Creative individuals like yourself is what Marvel and DC needed instead of they had as they were going down over the years!?!
So far the internet have worked together to give popular names for these 2. These names start like these Snowblade and barricade haven and hail. Ice star and cage. Cryofreak and barrier.
Nice updated look! I'm thinking about getting back into drawing, I haven't done it in a looong time. What kind of pad are you using?
Thanks! I have a Wacom Intuos Pro that I use for all my digital art.
@@TheSpyV Thanks! Ok, I'm familiar with them. I have a Wacom CTH-461 I got a long time ago. I've been trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to work with my new PC. When I downloaded the drivers & finally got it working it stopped PS from working. So maybe it's just outdated. I appreciate the response, thanks again. 😊
King Ramsey no problem!
This one is my favorite redesign so far. And the names are amazing too!
This time, Marvel finally managed to succeed in pissing everybody off altogether no matter who stood on what side.
Also I’d like to take a moment to show love to your redesign as it makes these characters look individual while reminding us that they’re twins and it isn’t a damn eyesore.
Dude this showed up on my homepage and I expected this person to have more subscribers, but they only have 209? I have a feeling this channel is gonna blow up, count me in as #210
Before this video blew up a bit I only had 32. I really appreciate the support and hope to keep the momentum up :)
SpyV I genuinely think you’re gonna go far. You have great art skills and your commentary is very good. A lot of people who start doing commentary are usually very awkward, stutter, or just have awkward silences. You genuinely have a skill for this
Now, the redesign actually makes them seem like people I would *actually know.* They look like actual PEOPLE. I'm getting into the acting community in Atlanta, and I know someone who could straight up play this version of Haven. Not to mention Haven and Hail are just the COOLEST NAMES. It's SO much easier to remember than Snowflake and Safespace, and it has real power and gravitas to them, while also connecting them thematically while not making them exclusively joined at the hip. Like I can see "Oh Hail just joined the new West Coast Avengers while Haven is with the Guardians of the Galaxy"
"Skin White as snow, hair black as night, lips red like blood her name Snow White."
Dam only 481+ subs? You deserve more. Great video keep it up!
Great job on the redesigns. Look so much better.
Wondering what you can do for the rest of them.
And who was the one with the good design? B negative? At least he’s the only one with a halfway decent design. Though I do wish he wore a bit less hot pink.
B-Negative was the only one I’d consider “fine” I’d have gone with more colors than just the hot pink to give that 90s-Early 2000s vibe. I thought about doing the rest though at this point I’m not certain it’s still a super relevant topic lol
hail and haven is hot. I absolutely love it, im glad to see a small creator get a leg up for once, well one with talent.
That's what I call, fixed version, it's much much better than the basic original version. 👍