I SIMPLY LOVE Miss Diana Ross -- it's been a real long time since she led the Supremes to their record-breaking hits. On her own she has stood up and continues to make audiences feel her presence. Truly an Amazing & AWESOME ICON!!❤⚘❤
Wow! The upbeat energy and positive vibes that is coming from this performance is awesome! I like when the Artists go into the audience while singing! There's no Lip Singing here, Ladies and Gentlemen!
@@darrinhauxwell5315 And don't let her start popping her eyes and stretching her mouth. She made the ugliest faces. It's good the etiquette teacher taught her how inappropriate those antics were. As far as that weave is concerned, I am surprised that her own hair hasn't grown, especially given the medical treatment one can receive to grow naturally long hair, if that's what she loves.
I Also Have To Say!! You're So Right 👍👍!! Mary Wilson, And Florence Ballard Are The Original Supremes ⭐⭐!! I Also Have To Throw Cindy Birdsong 🕊️ Between In There As Well!! Because During The Mid 1967 She Sung 🎤 With Diana Ross And Mary Wilson!! When Diana Ross, Was Still In The Group!! Before She Left In 1970.
Love watching all the Supremes way back when all the way to now 😊, no matter where they've appeared or where they're going to appear, I'm a fan all the way. I love Diana ❤️
Awesome interview! Diana is so charismatic and such a taent! She's not my all time favorite singer for nothing. I can't wait to see her for a fourth time this August
@@gracegreen1859 my apologies. There is a lot of undeserved Mary bashing so I'm sorry I jumped to the wrong conclusion. Thank you for clarifying it in such a nice way.
I'm a diehard Diana Ross fan but I had no intention of seeing this tour. Without Mary and Cindy, forget it. This made no sense to me - no matter Diana's rationalization. The heart and soul of The Supremes was Mary Wilson. It's inconcievable this was done without her. Diana should have carried on with her solo work if peace could not be made to have Mary involved. A tremendously 'missed opportunity.'
You missed a real treat. Diana Ross and her Supremes were fantastic. Mary was not missed. When they started singing, you forgot about Mary....at least I did. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing her and her Supremes. It really is all about the music.
@@NicholasDaltoI don't think those who saw the tour was disappointed. I most definitely was not. I could not tell the difference. I just enjoyed the music.
@Tes7000 Let's us be exactly and perfectly clear! While Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, and Florence Ballard were the original Supremes....There was a total of 8 Supremes. As individuals left the group, a new member was added, and that individual became a Supreme as well.
I'm a long time Supremes' fan, since grade school in the mid 60s. I just thought it was such a shame Mary Wilson couldn't do this tour at least for us long time fans, not to mention $4 million. Nothing against Scherrie or Susaye, but the Supreme magic is missing here.
"Not to mention" is Right! 4 million was NOT the offer to Mary..... And it was used to set her UP for the kill, cos she was never intended! They choose the LAST MINUTE to OFFER her "4", so they could hurt her! She Immediately accepted, even TOO quick, and they told her when she did, "too late, the ship has sailed"! The ship had BEEN boarded and Loaded When they CONTACTED Mary! NO Ship sailed WITHOUT being thoroughly "charged"!!!! They played on her and then pulled the plug. I knew what was up when they finally told Mary, and sent the Press After her, but Ross said not a word to affirm, back up, support, NOTHING! I Knew THEN what was "up"! Speaking of..... "I Will SURVIVE"!. .
@@bobbyoglesby643 Absolutely, my friend! That *IS* What Happened. But they spent MUCH TIME coming up with a ...."scenario"....that'd SOUND legit to the public in her favor as she dug "twists" against Mary every chance she could, but subtly. Mary KNEW about the plans a LONG time before cos Ross'd been kniving with Scherrie a long time till they came up with a setting people would buy. Mary was Not going to be treated like a window dressing, much what happened to Scherrie and Lynda, who were severely overshadowed and blurred out by the over loud bg voices and thousands of extra feet and legs nearly constantly onstage, as well as being placed blocks away from Diana. That was Not THE SUPREMES, no matter WHO liked it. That's not how what or WHO The SUPREMES were.
This didn't work. Mary Wilson was shut out! She was VERY much alive unlike Flo and fan's rejected this false Supreme's reunion. The tour was cancelled due to lack of ticket sales.
She shut herself out. She was given the opportunity and she refused. Her bitterness and jealousy towards Diana blinded her up to the point of rejecting 4 million dollars for 30 nights of work. Cindy Birdsong let Mary negotiate on her behalf and she was devastated when she learned that Mary had rejected the offer.
@@rossnumberone2 Mary rejected Dianne's offer because Miss.Ross would have made 4 times that amount. Dianne went ahead with the fake reunion but fan's saw right through the fake reunion. Low ticket sales put the breaks on greedy Dianne scheme.
@@pauldecroix4567Really! The tour was supposed to be a gift to the fans. Yes! Money was involved. It should have been, but not at the expense of the fans. Diana Ross negotiated with promoters. The promoters negotiated with the other two women separately. However, to get Mary's buy in, Diana Ross offered her an amount equal to what the promoters offered her. This gave her $4 million dollars. What was Diana Ross supposed to do? Take part of what she had negotiated and give it to Mary! How many of you would have done this? Mary thought she saw an opportunity to make a killing! When it did pan out, look what she did. She purposely sabotaged the tour! Many of you might not agree, but this is exactly what she did! Why? I never understood why Mary Wilson simply did not graciously and professionally decline and wished Diana Ross well and to have a successful tour. Why did she let anger and jealousness causes such a rift between her and Diana Ross? Jealousness! Thou name is Jealousy!
Cholly Atkins continued to work with Motown groups beyond the 1960s. Both Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence recorded extensively as Supremes and have performed around the world as Supremes (at one point with Jean Terrell). Every lady ever in the Supremes could sing lead and so could and have Scherrie and Lynda and the standard for fashion, makeup, decorum and perfectionism never varied. Why fans are compelled to criticize individual Supremes and cominations mystifies Diana Ross...and me.
I still listen to the records to this day, (not just theirs; Motown records in general!) but gotta admit the live performance I saw ( Diana Ross, no Supremes with her)) struck me as a rather perfunctory exercise in nostalgia. I suspect what she really likes to do nowadays is sing those Billy Holiday songs and those great romantic ballads. Also, I met Mary Wilson once, and to me she and Florence were the real Supremes; what a great personality and classy lady!
Why you gotta resort to Name Calling! People KNOW what they SEE and Experience. It ISN'T All thru Your 👀! Let's respect that, Please! This is about The SUPREMES, A ROYAL ENTITY to the WORLD, no matter WHICH "one" YOU decided You liked... More. THEY RULED!
Why is it that we don't hear much trash talking about David Ruffin or Eddie Kendricks leaving the Temptations for solo careers or Michael Jackson leaving his group or even Beyonce? But when it come to Diana Ross it still gets blown up. Gladys Knight went on to a solo career as did Patti LaBelle and Smokey..It is what the star of the group does. It's all behind us anyway..move on folks. It's old!
@Punkanelly Lovejoy Really???? David Ruffin was an amazing singer but he notoriously treated everyone like shit. And according to fellow Temptaption Otis Williams - beat the crap outta his girlfriends. And poor bitter Gladys has been going around the last few years complaining that Diana Ross had her thrown off her tour 54 years ago when Diana Ross was 21 years old. Maybe it happened like that maybe it didn't but Diana Ross is too classy to pay it any mind.
@Ronald McFondle ok....you know as well as many fans know that Jean,Mary,Cindy were very popular and had a great sound. You know also that Berry Gordy was doing nothing to promote the group, regardless of continued hits. You also know that Jean Terrell could wipe out Diana vocally . The 60's Supremes were great, but the 70's Supremes were awesome with a more mature sound with better lyrics. Diana always had a strange vocal delivery, which was always half singing, half speaking with a very limited, weak vocal range. Jean Terrell on the other hand has a vocal range that can blow the roof off. So, stop with the lies, you are fooling no one.
@@tonyb65 lol funny you say that cause she is effortless HDH said she wasn't in the mood or didn't try to sing Where did our love go and that was her first major hit. I love her speaking voice too and all her kids kind of got it. Its very unique not raspy but... she could do voice overs.
It definitely should have been Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong with Diana Ross. However, as a fan, it is painful to see Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence referred to as Nobodies. They were Supremes in the 1970's. I celebrate them all-those mentioned above and the late Florence Ballard, Jean Terrell and Susaye Greene. I would love to have seen all of the former Supremes onstage together. How awesome would that have been?
There wasn't a great deal of enthusiasm for the Diana Ross and the Nobodies Tour. Meanwhile, Mary, and maybe Jean, must have thrown something at the television watching this.
What a great interview! I love Ms Ross! Thank you Lord for allowing my Mother and I to see her in Concert many years ago! She was amazing! She entered the audience and passed our aisle and she looked at us up close! Awesome!!! 💋
@Kirby Kipling They should have at least offered her half of what Diana was getting & also worked out a percentage clause just they did for Diana.... Where the better your did, the more money. All thid - just by virtue of the fact that she was a FOUNDING member & she was STILL performing as a bankable professional singer / star at the time. Being an ORIGINAL of ANYTHING is always more valuable than being a cheap copy. On top of that, though she wasn't a super star like Diana at the time, she was still a bankable STAR / singing act at that time. It wasn't like the Supremes was her only claim & she was just sitting at home for years doing nothing all her life waiting on another Supremes run. I don't blame Mary at all. She knew her worth & stood on principle & I'm sure her attorneys did too. This was no longer the 60's when she didn't know & hadn't the power nor influence to stand up for herself. That was the lesson she learned from her first time around & she put what she learned into action. It's called WISDOM. For that reason, this tour was NOT a success and had to be cancelled. Despite Diana's BEST efforts to gloss over it all as though she was insignificant. Mary knew her value, her card, the value of her card, and she played it. For the reason, the game Diana tried to play was OVER. To the fans, the fact that Diana would even try to go on anyway without her says a lot about her & in many ways, proved Mary's point. 🤷🏻♂️
True, but in order to have a trio you need a third member and (since Florence is deceased) the only person who could fill that spot is Cindy Birdsong. It wouldn't have worked with Jean, Scherrie, Lynda, Susaye or even Barbra Streisand.
Starr: the people you tell you know Ross who are envious are envious because they don't know her. The stories of her cruelty and selfishness are well documented and consistent.
Diana, Ru kidding me??? It's Gloria gaynor song that was so popular #1 disco song back in the late 70ies!!! She's from New Jersey & I seen Gloria getting OUTTA a limo on Jamaica ave going into a pocketbook store that I was in $ she came in there & they locked all doors with us & ms. Gloria gaynor in the store with like 7 of us-!!! Awesome, Gloria was it back then this was the hottest disco song # 1 like I said. Diana I'm surprised at U asking the millions of people that R watching this that we actually kno this song, omg Diana get with it honey!!! I love u & I think UR beautiful, I always thought that of U ever since I was old enuf to say it!!! U have a good looking Evon married to beautiful Ashlee Simpson , I pray that works out cos they have 2 beautiful kids, stay together , work it out!!!
They were Supremes back in The seventies Scherrie was a Supreme from 1973 to 1977 Lynda was a Supreme from 1972 to 1973 And Yes! Mary is still alive, and Cindy too, but She is very ill 😥
As u can see shady Diana made sure Lynda and Scherrie made no reference to the fact they were Supremes with Mary Wilson. I applaud Mary for standing her ground and not kneeling to Diana the way these two are. It was set up all along that both ladies would be a part of that tour for Diana did not want to work with Mary nor Cindy in the first place.
I don't care what the naysayers are saying in this feed, I enjoyed this show, one of the best Views ever and I can't understand why people can't just watch a performance for what it is and stop all the negativity. The studio audience enjoyed it, I'm sure.
@@grey2868 It was no minor error and you know it. She was trying to let people think Rhonda was Silberstein's daughter when Berry Gordy is the father to Rhonda.
@@roberta.lofgrenjr.9182 Who would look at Rhonda and believe she is anyone BUT Berry Gordy's child? But not remembering your child's birth year CAN happen. Women get too much pressure...sheesh! I had two children out of wedlock so no pretense here and I swear the other day I had to think twice what year my 2nd child was born. She is 23 now. It was 1996. But for 3 secs the other day I was stuck. I'm sure I'll be scorned by you for being the single mom to a now entrepreneur daughter and 26 yr old engineer son. Eff a birth year. I didn't miss ONE school meeting or performance.
@@jacquelynn2051 No i would not do that. I have a niece who had a baby out of wedlock. The family was not happy about it, but we still love her and her daughter and always will. Good day.
A great opportunity squandered. A genuine chance to bring ALL former living Supremes together in a spectacular show. Unfortunately arrogance, bitter rivalries, jealousies, grudges and money got in the way. It's a case of what could've been. Sadly now it's too late and will never happen. Why Diana insist on keeping I Will Survive in her live shows is a mystery- her version is truly awful it only exposes the weakness of her voice. It is another example of the many poor career choices she has made since leaving Motown & Gordy in the early 80s. The fact that her personal influence and cultural significance on female performers and the music industry is continually overlooked by todays stars & music journalists is outrageous and needs to be addressed.
Beyonce cites Diana as an inspiration which kinda blows your arguement. Whitney/Mariah/Janet Jackson all cited Diana Ross - she is an important stage in the development of female performers
The original Supremes are the ones I want to see from the sixties. Sadly, Florence left far too soon but Mary Wilson was still very much alive back in 2000 and she should have been a long side, Diana Ross. Le Ross who has been an absolute bitch towards Mary, although it has been so sweetly done, most people would not even pick up on it.
The tour was cancelled after13 concerts. That wouldn't have happened with Cindy and Mary. Should have given them the money. It would have been historic. Turned out to be a failure.
In 2000, plans were made for Ross to join Wilson and Birdsong for a planned "Diana Ross & the Supremes: Return to Love" reunion tour. However, Wilson passed on the idea, because while the promoters offered Ross $15 million to perform, Wilson was offered $4 million and Birdsong less than $1 million. Ross herself offered to double the amounts both Wilson and Birdsong had originally been offered, but while Birdsong accepted, Wilson remained adamant, and as a result the deal fell through with both former Supremes. Eventually, the "Return to Love" tour went on as scheduled, but with Payne and Laurence joining Ross, although none of the three had ever been in the group at the same time, and neither Payne nor Laurence had sung on any of the original hit recordings that they were now singing live. Susaye Greene was also considered for this tour, but refused to audition for it. Lynda didn't join until 1972, and Scherrie didn't join until 1973. A reunion without Mary or Cindy was always going to be a scam. With the death of Florence Ballard in 1976 and the death of Mary Wilson on February 8, 2021, there is no longer any possible reunion of the original classic lineup. The lyrics of "Someday We'll Be Together" are prophetic, and will only be fulfilled in death. A very sad and ironic ending for three Black girls from Detroit who changed the world.
Not a fan. Diana Ross did not put the Supremes on the charts and they need to stop saying that and she need to have some integrity and admit it was Flo.
@PublicSpeaking202 Are you having a laugh? No, seriously: are you? It was Flo who put the Supremes on the chart? OMG!! HILARIOUS!! Diana sang on *EVERY* hit the group ever had right up to 1970...and that includes *ALL* of the 12 number 1s. SO!!!! Now it's your turn. Tell us how it was Florence who put the group on the chart. I really can't wait to read your reply!
gee gee k that feel good puppet voice made them Standout and get 12 No.1 pop something that no other American group had done. that feel good puppet voice sang on 18 no.1 pop.. if Flo was so Good she would have been Noticed so that's a bunch of crap. Just like Jennifer Hudson although voted off American Idol Still her Voice is what got her noticed and Kept her there. Flo didn't have a unique voice nor did Mary who 40yrs later still have not had one solo hit. Sex will get you only so far to keep folks spending their Hard earn cash to see you You have to be Good and have Talent. Diana has Talent. Diana is Good and Still can Sellout a venue at 70. aint got a damn thing to do with who she slept with. It is and has Always been her Talent. which sounds good and make her fans FEEL GOOD.
The public, the fans,, made the Supremes what they are today. Its unfortunate we can never have a REAL original members reunion, because of money issues. Now, with Mary gone, its impossible. My view is very bitter now towards them. They never thought of the fans.
I am a huge hug diiana Ross fan from the beginning. But diana u got this one wrong should have never brought those other two ladies...this was one time u should have made it happen with mary and Cindy it was only the right thing to do... Still love u
What was so sad was these two women never got to do the tour because of Mary Wilson causing such a fuss. They were so excited about it. That started a downward spiral for Ross as her tour was cancelled. Then her ex-husband died and she started drinking and was arrested.
They were part of The Supremes in the 70s, so yes they were members of the group later on. They were just not part of the ORIGINAL Supremes, which is why (I think) the tour flopped hard!
Sometimes timing is everything. The Supremes were on the scene during the heyday of desegregation and they were fabulous formal attire. In addition, they were young and slim. Novelty always catches the public's attention. Afterall, that junk the Supremes was singing was not all that. Still, we are happy that there careers allowed them so many of life's advantages.
You could see the look on stars face 😂😂😂 she was like why y'all being extra for this bs? This is not the group I grew up watching. And look at Diana's face and hand when she says they were supremes after Diana left ☠️☠️☠️
Poor Miss Mary turned down 4 Million to do 30 Shows, Now she's telling the Press she's Broke (AGAIN) and is "Begging" for a Reunion Tour with Diana Ross.
Martha Marvelette I look at ALL of her latest interviews and i dont know which ones or what mary you looking at but the Mary wilson from the supremes that STILL get royalties from all that music and other things she did IS NOT begging for no damn money smh get your facts straight
@rapture ready warrior No, it was only a temporary arrangement anyway. They are still all friends, which is more than can be said for Mary Wilson. Both of these two Supremes (Scherrie and Lynda) only ever have lovely things to say about Diana, and they way she looked after them during the tour...always making sure they had whatever they needed. Mary missed out big style.
jonsa75...my your never ending pearls of wisdom almost out you as Tracee Ross herself! Well Tracee of course the 2 inauthentic Supremes kiss her ass because they need to keep their bread buttered with her blessing for their scam. As for Mary , I remember hearing Diana specifically mention and thank her when accepting the Kennedy Center award in 2007 . Where have you been Tracee? In Mama's closet trying on the old gowns too long wishing you were her! Pathetic when the kid wants to be their parent which goes completely against nature.
Mary said no to the deal. I watched her interview on 20 20. Diana was with Barry, well we all know that now and they had a child and I would not call her a love child either but a get ahead child. Diana had that class about her. Mary sings in Europe where she is appreciated. Diana had a gathering with loads of the famous people at that fancy, well known restaurant in Beverly Hills. She told security not to let Mary in, which I thought was heartless of Diana then Mary's son died. I wonder how Diana felt about that. Diana must have felt some misgivings.
Chloe wilson One more thing. I thought less of Diana because she never attended Michael's funeral. He loved Diana but she didn't want her name associated with a "pedo", which of course, was all done to ruin Michael's career. I think those charges is what helped kill him. Michael was a love and I am so glad that Liz cared enough about Michael to stick by him. Thanks Liz.
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I SIMPLY LOVE Miss Diana Ross -- it's been a real long time since she led the Supremes to their record-breaking hits. On her own she has stood up and continues to make audiences feel her presence. Truly an Amazing & AWESOME ICON!!❤⚘❤
Wow! The upbeat energy and positive vibes that is coming from this performance is awesome! I like when the Artists go into the audience while singing! There's no Lip Singing here, Ladies and Gentlemen!
Diana Ross is so beautiful. What a gorgeous woman!
Totally false from that weave to her toes!
@@darrinhauxwell5315 And don't let her start popping her eyes and stretching her mouth. She made the ugliest faces. It's good the etiquette teacher taught her how inappropriate those antics were. As far as that weave is concerned, I am surprised that her own hair hasn't grown, especially given the medical treatment one can receive to grow naturally long hair, if that's what she loves.
I wish Florence Ballard was still with us!
Exclusive with her kids and grandkids
Exclusive, I do too!
I know it's quite off topic but do anybody know a good website to watch new series online ?
@Santino Alessandro flixportal xD
@Terry Chandler thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) Appreciate it!!
no one can replace diana ross mary wilson andd florence
I Also Have To Say!! You're So Right 👍👍!! Mary Wilson, And Florence Ballard Are The Original Supremes ⭐⭐!! I Also Have To Throw Cindy Birdsong 🕊️ Between In There As Well!! Because During The Mid 1967 She Sung 🎤 With Diana Ross And Mary Wilson!! When Diana Ross, Was Still In The Group!! Before She Left In 1970.
Love watching all the Supremes way back when all the way to now 😊, no matter where they've appeared or where they're going to appear, I'm a fan all the way. I love Diana ❤️
Awesome interview! Diana is so charismatic and such a taent! She's not my all time favorite singer for nothing. I can't wait to see her for a fourth time this August
Threw a lil shade at Starr...." I know the boys are the light of your life." Diana...."actually all 5 of my kids are the light of my life"...
I see why she was so successful her voice and energy is amazing!!! Love U Diana Ross !
A true professional. Talented, beautiful, and star power.
I can’t believe this woman still got it❤️❤️❤️. The energy... Diana is over 70 I’m sure of it
She's closer to 80!!
I love Diana Ross, but I sure miss Mary and Flo singing with her.
Their concert was excellent. I went to it. Those SUPREMES held their own.
Recently saw Diana Ross in St. Petersburg, FL at the Mahaffey and she was unbelievable.
Funny I saw mary at the same place
@@nickydalto9527 not recently I hope
@@gracegreen1859 I really don't think that's funny.show respect for the deceased.
@@nickydalto9527 you know I could see how you could take it that way. But I was referring to covid which as in recent of last year.
@@gracegreen1859 my apologies. There is a lot of undeserved Mary bashing so I'm sorry I jumped to the wrong conclusion. Thank you for clarifying it in such a nice way.
Great performance as always.
NO SUPREMES REUNION WITHOUT MARY WILSON. PERIOD!!
RIP FLORENCE BALLARD x
I'm a diehard Diana Ross fan but I had no intention of seeing this tour. Without Mary and Cindy, forget it. This made no sense to me - no matter Diana's rationalization. The heart and soul of The Supremes was Mary Wilson. It's inconcievable this was done without her. Diana should have carried on with her solo work if peace could not be made to have Mary involved. A tremendously 'missed opportunity.'
I agree completely. It would have been historic with Mary And Cindy. And it was an embarrassing failure without them. .
You missed a real treat. Diana Ross and her Supremes were fantastic. Mary was not missed. When they started singing, you forgot about Mary....at least I did. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing her and her Supremes. It really is all about the music.
@@NicholasDaltoI don't think those who saw the tour was disappointed. I most definitely was not. I could not tell the difference. I just enjoyed the music.
@@strausd02 I am glad you enjoyed the reunion show, but let's be accurate here. It was Diana Ross and Mary Wilson's Supremes.
@Tes7000 Let's us be exactly and perfectly clear! While Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, and Florence Ballard were the original Supremes....There was a total of 8 Supremes. As individuals left the group, a new member was added, and that individual became a Supreme as well.
Once Diana opened her mouth and said ‘ Ooo ‘ I was in awe 😭😍
I'm a long time Supremes' fan, since grade school in the mid 60s. I just thought it was such a shame Mary Wilson couldn't do this tour at least for us long time fans, not to mention $4 million. Nothing against Scherrie or Susaye, but the Supreme magic is missing here.
.....And Berry Gordy advised Ross not to do the tour without Mary....he knew the public wouldn't accept the lineup.
"Not to mention" is Right! 4 million was NOT the offer to Mary..... And it was used to set her UP for the kill, cos she was never intended! They choose the LAST MINUTE to OFFER her "4", so they could hurt her! She Immediately accepted, even TOO quick, and they told her when she did, "too late, the ship has sailed"! The ship had BEEN boarded and Loaded When they CONTACTED Mary! NO Ship sailed WITHOUT being thoroughly "charged"!!!! They played on her and then pulled the plug. I knew what was up when they finally told Mary, and sent the Press After her, but Ross said not a word to affirm, back up, support, NOTHING! I Knew THEN what was "up"! Speaking of..... "I Will SURVIVE"!. .
@@stage7 Right
@@bobbyoglesby643 Absolutely, my friend! That *IS* What Happened. But they spent MUCH TIME coming up with a ...."scenario"....that'd SOUND legit to the public in her favor as she dug "twists" against Mary every chance she could, but subtly. Mary KNEW about the plans a LONG time before cos Ross'd been kniving with Scherrie a long time till they came up with a setting people would buy. Mary was Not going to be treated like a window dressing, much what happened to Scherrie and Lynda, who were severely overshadowed and blurred out by the over loud bg voices and thousands of extra feet and legs nearly constantly onstage, as well as being placed blocks away from Diana. That was Not THE SUPREMES, no matter WHO liked it. That's not how what or WHO The SUPREMES were.
@@stage7Please take your medication. You are delusional and are hallucinating. Take your medication dear!
Would have been exciting only with Diana and the real Supremes
Now this was just one heck of a lot of fun!!!! Thanks so much!
Diana gave them a platform to tell their times as a Supreme after her
This didn't work. Mary Wilson was shut out! She was VERY much alive unlike Flo and fan's rejected this false Supreme's reunion. The tour was cancelled due to lack of ticket sales.
She shut herself out. She was given the opportunity and she refused. Her bitterness and jealousy towards Diana blinded her up to the point of rejecting 4 million dollars for 30 nights of work. Cindy Birdsong let Mary negotiate on her behalf and she was devastated when she learned that Mary had rejected the offer.
@@rossnumberone2 Mary rejected Dianne's offer because Miss.Ross would have made 4 times that amount. Dianne went ahead with the fake reunion but fan's saw right through the fake reunion. Low ticket sales put the breaks on greedy Dianne scheme.
The reason the negotiations didn't work because the original living supremes weren't offer them the same money as Diana and they turned in down
@@pauldecroix4567Really! The tour was supposed to be a gift to the fans. Yes! Money was involved. It should have been, but not at the expense of the fans. Diana Ross negotiated with promoters. The promoters negotiated with the other two women separately. However, to get Mary's buy in, Diana Ross offered her an amount equal to what the promoters offered her. This gave her $4 million dollars. What was Diana Ross supposed to do? Take part of what she had negotiated and give it to Mary! How many of you would have done this? Mary thought she saw an opportunity to make a killing! When it did pan out, look what she did. She purposely sabotaged the tour! Many of you might not agree, but this is exactly what she did! Why? I never understood why Mary Wilson simply did not graciously and professionally decline and wished Diana Ross well and to have a successful tour. Why did she let anger and jealousness causes such a rift between her and Diana Ross? Jealousness! Thou name is Jealousy!
That's ENERGY...Go Diana
Cholly Atkins continued to work with Motown groups beyond the 1960s. Both Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence recorded extensively as Supremes and have performed around the world as Supremes (at one point with Jean Terrell). Every lady ever in the Supremes could sing lead and so could and have Scherrie and Lynda and the standard for fashion, makeup, decorum and perfectionism never varied. Why fans are compelled to criticize individual Supremes and cominations mystifies Diana Ross...and me.
I still listen to the records to this day, (not just theirs; Motown records in general!) but gotta admit the live performance I saw ( Diana Ross, no Supremes with her)) struck me as a rather perfunctory exercise in nostalgia. I suspect what she really likes to do nowadays is sing those Billy Holiday songs and those great romantic ballads. Also, I met Mary Wilson once, and to me she and Florence were the real Supremes; what a great personality and classy lady!
Steven, Mary Wilson - a "Classy Lady" you poor deluded fool. Diana Ross and two backup singers were, in fact, the real Supremes.
Why you gotta resort to Name Calling! People KNOW what they SEE and Experience. It ISN'T All thru Your 👀! Let's respect that, Please! This is about The SUPREMES, A ROYAL ENTITY to the WORLD, no matter WHICH "one" YOU decided You liked... More. THEY RULED!
it took all three of them to make history. so give them all credit
Just like the original destiny's child
The Supremes : Mary Flo Diana. End of.
@@canyonsurfer6429 Sorry man, but that's not true.
@@canyonsurfer6429 this flop of a tour proved that to be a lie.
The fake reunion tour was a disaster! How embarrassing this was for all involved. 😒
Why is it that we don't hear much trash talking about David Ruffin or Eddie Kendricks leaving the Temptations for solo careers or Michael Jackson leaving his group or even Beyonce? But when it come to Diana Ross it still gets blown up. Gladys Knight went on to a solo career as did Patti LaBelle and Smokey..It is what the star of the group does. It's all behind us anyway..move on folks. It's old!
Oh please, mary is just a stupid jealous bitch!!!!
Beyoncé did not leave the group. They disbanded .
They have put LADY DIANA ROSS name through the mud but
They don't all that happened behind the set an seen.
clouds overnyc I agree
@Punkanelly Lovejoy Really???? David Ruffin was an amazing singer but he notoriously treated everyone like shit. And according to fellow Temptaption Otis Williams - beat the crap outta his girlfriends. And poor bitter Gladys has been going around the last few years complaining that Diana Ross had her thrown off her tour 54 years ago when Diana Ross was 21 years old. Maybe it happened like that maybe it didn't but Diana Ross is too classy to pay it any mind.
Diana ross is the boss of queen in motown. She is very powerful voice and beautiful woman on this planet! ❤❤❤❤
People wanted to see Mary Wilson and Diana Ross on stage together. There was so much history between the two. But there was also the music.
The drama over took the tour, things could've been done differently.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!
And now Mary's gone😢🕊🌹💖🌹
Diva Ross! Love her !
For those who don't know that that The Supremes kept going in the 70s when Diana Ross left
They sure did and had some hits. They career after Diana left did better than Diana's solo career at first
Ronald McFondle Obviously you don’t know what you’re talking about shut the fuck up bitch
....and they were even better!! Wonderful music from 70's Supremes!
@Ronald McFondle ok....you know as well as many fans know that Jean,Mary,Cindy were very popular and had a great sound. You know also that Berry Gordy was doing nothing to promote the group, regardless of continued hits. You also know that Jean Terrell could wipe out Diana vocally . The 60's Supremes were great, but the 70's Supremes were awesome with a more mature sound with better lyrics. Diana always had a strange vocal delivery, which was always half singing, half speaking with a very limited, weak vocal range. Jean Terrell on the other hand has a vocal range that can blow the roof off. So, stop with the lies, you are fooling no one.
@@tonyb65 lol funny you say that cause she is effortless HDH said she wasn't in the mood or didn't try to sing Where did our love go and that was her first major hit. I love her speaking voice too and all her kids kind of got it. Its very unique not raspy but... she could do voice overs.
It definitely should have been Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong with Diana Ross. However, as a fan, it is painful to see Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence referred to as Nobodies. They were Supremes in the 1970's. I celebrate them all-those mentioned above and the late Florence Ballard, Jean Terrell and Susaye Greene.
I would love to have seen all of the former Supremes onstage together. How awesome would that have been?
kurtsupreme Well stated!
kurtsupreme WELL SAID, WELL SAID ,WELL SAID !! AND PLEASE LET US NOT FORGET POOR FLORENCE BALLARD AN ORIGINAL SUPREME !!
IKR
Yeah I wish Cindy birdsong and Mary Wilson there it’s a shame they arnt
At this time, where was Mary? Did these two ladies -- Linda and Freda ever sing with Mary?
There wasn't a great deal of enthusiasm for the Diana Ross and the Nobodies Tour. Meanwhile, Mary, and maybe Jean, must have thrown something at the television watching this.
Mary was laughing knowing that this tour was going to flop and when it did...she said "told you so".
What a great interview! I love Ms Ross! Thank you Lord for allowing my Mother and I to see her in Concert many years ago! She was amazing! She entered the audience and passed our aisle and she looked at us up close! Awesome!!! 💋
Diana is the nicest liar, feels good all the time, nothing bothers me city !!!
Diana looks so good
Y Ii superstars are meant to look good
Star is breathing hard affffff
Mary Wilson was "The Looker" in The Supremes".....just stunningly beautiful.
....always felt Mary gave the group class and sex appeal....she is indeed beautiful!
@@tonyb65 IN-DEED!
But couldn't sing at all. And yes she looked ok.
@@cravendubose3024
U must be tone deaf buddy....but ill concede the Beauty, its a opinion.
They are not the original Supremes. Flo and Mary are the originals and their sound was impeccable. Never heard of these 2 women.
It’s the I don’t know her (them) of it all for me
@Kirby Kipling I’m with you on the pay part. But I never knew people thought jermaine was a better singer than Michael
@Kirby Kipling They should have at least offered her half of what Diana was getting & also worked out a percentage clause just they did for Diana.... Where the better your did, the more money. All thid - just by virtue of the fact that she was a FOUNDING member & she was STILL performing as a bankable professional singer / star at the time. Being an ORIGINAL of ANYTHING is always more valuable than being a cheap copy. On top of that, though she wasn't a super star like Diana at the time, she was still a bankable STAR / singing act at that time. It wasn't like the Supremes was her only claim & she was just sitting at home for years doing nothing all her life waiting on another Supremes run. I don't blame Mary at all. She knew her worth & stood on principle & I'm sure her attorneys did too. This was no longer the 60's when she didn't know & hadn't the power nor influence to stand up for herself. That was the lesson she learned from her first time around & she put what she learned into action. It's called WISDOM. For that reason, this tour was NOT a success and had to be cancelled. Despite Diana's BEST efforts to gloss over it all as though she was insignificant. Mary knew her value, her card, the value of her card, and she played it. For the reason, the game Diana tried to play was OVER. To the fans, the fact that Diana would even try to go on anyway without her says a lot about her & in many ways, proved Mary's point. 🤷🏻♂️
later day replacements, carved a career on the glory days of the original supremes
I have heard of them all of them. Jean Terrell was my neighbor back in Chicago . My parents knew her and her brother
Mary and Flo no substitute
True, but in order to have a trio you need a third member and (since Florence is deceased) the only person who could fill that spot is Cindy Birdsong. It wouldn't have worked with Jean, Scherrie, Lynda, Susaye or even Barbra Streisand.
Starr: the people you tell you know Ross who are envious are envious because they don't know her. The stories of her cruelty and selfishness are well documented and consistent.
Diana, Ru kidding me??? It's Gloria gaynor song that was so popular #1 disco song back in the late 70ies!!! She's from New Jersey & I seen Gloria getting OUTTA a limo on Jamaica ave going into a pocketbook store that I was in $ she came in there & they locked all doors with us & ms. Gloria gaynor in the store with like 7 of us-!!! Awesome, Gloria was it back then this was the hottest disco song # 1 like I said. Diana I'm surprised at U asking the millions of people that R watching this that we actually kno this song, omg Diana get with it honey!!! I love u & I think UR beautiful, I always thought that of U ever since I was old enuf to say it!!! U have a good looking Evon married to beautiful Ashlee Simpson , I pray that works out cos they have 2 beautiful kids, stay together , work it out!!!
Yes Diana rocked that house!!! 😘
LOVE DIANA ROSS ❤️❤️⭐️⭐️
BUT “DIVA” SHE TRULY IS!! 💃🏾
Oh hold up! That's not the Supremes! Aren't Mary and Cindy still alive?
They were Supremes back in The seventies
Scherrie was a Supreme from 1973 to 1977
Lynda was a Supreme from 1972 to 1973
And Yes! Mary is still alive, and Cindy too, but She is very ill 😥
Solo Romero yeah but Mary wouldn't put her difference aside to reunite the Supremes
Oh stop it! you know Mary and Cindy didn't want to do the tour. These ladies are the Supremes that performed after Diana left the group
ABSOLUTELY! And MARY is VERY VITAL and ACTIVE!
That’s why this tour was a flop.
As u can see shady Diana made sure Lynda and Scherrie made no reference to the fact they were Supremes with Mary Wilson. I applaud Mary for standing her ground and not kneeling to Diana the way these two are. It was set up all along that both ladies would be a part of that tour for Diana did not want to work with Mary nor Cindy in the first place.
Vincent50, You are correct sir.
@@roberta.lofgrenjr.9182 100 percent
@@ez8546 Oh! thank you.
This is like Paul McCartney, with three different guys we have never heard of, calling themselves The Beatles.
EXACTLY!!!!!!
I don't care what the naysayers are saying in this feed, I enjoyed this show, one of the best Views ever and I can't understand why people can't just watch a performance for what it is and stop all the negativity. The studio audience enjoyed it, I'm sure.
Ross never address’ why Flo was discharged by Motown and what role Ross played.
Sounds so good
Has Diana turned the mic volume of the other two ladies way down? You can barely hear them
I can't believe my ears! At 6:36 she says "My first daughter was born in '72" Well...... Rhonda was born in 1971!!
Why is this important? It's just a minor error...
@@grey2868 It was no minor error and you know it. She was trying to let people think Rhonda was Silberstein's daughter when Berry Gordy is the father to Rhonda.
@@roberta.lofgrenjr.9182 Who would look at Rhonda and believe she is anyone BUT Berry Gordy's child? But not remembering your child's birth year CAN happen. Women get too much pressure...sheesh! I had two children out of wedlock so no pretense here and I swear the other day I had to think twice what year my 2nd child was born. She is 23 now. It was 1996. But for 3 secs the other day I was stuck. I'm sure I'll be scorned by you for being the single mom to a now entrepreneur daughter and 26 yr old engineer son. Eff a birth year. I didn't miss ONE school meeting or performance.
@@jacquelynn2051 No i would not do that. I have a niece who had a baby out of wedlock. The family was not happy about it, but we still love her and her daughter and always will. Good day.
That's her business.Not Yours.Berry Deserved the First Love Child.
She still has it...and she always will!
Diaja was thevone that had it!
A great opportunity squandered. A genuine chance to bring ALL former living Supremes together in a spectacular show. Unfortunately arrogance, bitter rivalries, jealousies, grudges and money got in the way. It's a case of what could've been. Sadly now it's too late and will never happen. Why Diana insist on keeping I Will Survive in her live shows is a mystery- her version is truly awful it only exposes the weakness of her voice. It is another example of the many poor career choices she has made since leaving Motown & Gordy in the early 80s. The fact that her personal influence and cultural significance on female performers and the music industry is continually overlooked by todays stars & music journalists is outrageous and needs to be addressed.
Beyonce cites Diana as an inspiration which kinda blows your arguement. Whitney/Mariah/Janet Jackson all cited Diana Ross - she is an important stage in the development of female performers
You must be the only person who thinks Diana's voice is "weak", har voice rises above everybody singing there, it's so distinctive.
The original Supremes are the ones I want to see from the sixties. Sadly, Florence left far too soon but Mary Wilson was still very much alive back in 2000 and she should have been a long side, Diana Ross. Le Ross who has been an absolute bitch towards Mary, although it has been so sweetly done, most people would not even pick up on it.
The tour was cancelled after13 concerts. That wouldn't have happened with Cindy and Mary. Should have given them the money. It would have been historic. Turned out to be a failure.
I would have preferred mary and Cindy because it would be a true reunion. The other girls are talented but ross never worked with them before.
Brazil ✈💋💋🗽🇺🇸🇺🇸 Diana ross 💘 I love you 💖👰💋💋🌹💋
May neme is Elvis .
The One & Only !
Where is Mary Wilson?
Exclusive they don’t talk
Class act always
Diana's first daughter was born in 1971, the second 1972, and than 1975, right!?
You're Right!
In 2000, plans were made for Ross to join Wilson and Birdsong for a planned "Diana Ross & the Supremes: Return to Love" reunion tour. However, Wilson passed on the idea, because while the promoters offered Ross $15 million to perform, Wilson was offered $4 million and Birdsong less than $1 million.
Ross herself offered to double the amounts both Wilson and Birdsong had originally been offered, but while Birdsong accepted, Wilson remained adamant, and as a result the deal fell through with both former Supremes. Eventually, the "Return to Love" tour went on as scheduled, but with Payne and Laurence joining Ross, although none of the three had ever been in the group at the same time, and neither Payne nor Laurence had sung on any of the original hit recordings that they were now singing live. Susaye Greene was also considered for this tour, but refused to audition for it.
Lynda didn't join until 1972, and Scherrie didn't join until 1973. A reunion without Mary or Cindy was always going to be a scam. With the death of Florence Ballard in 1976 and the death of Mary Wilson on February 8, 2021, there is no longer any possible reunion of the original classic lineup.
The lyrics of "Someday We'll Be Together" are prophetic, and will only be fulfilled in death. A very sad and ironic ending for three Black girls from Detroit who changed the world.
OMG that moment when halfway the intervieuw you see the old star jones
Not a fan. Diana Ross did not put the Supremes on the charts and they need to stop saying that and she need to have some integrity and admit it was Flo.
Jobu Cats LIAR
@PublicSpeaking202 Are you having a laugh? No, seriously: are you? It was Flo who put the Supremes on the chart?
OMG!! HILARIOUS!! Diana sang on *EVERY* hit the group ever had right up to 1970...and that includes *ALL* of the 12 number 1s.
SO!!!! Now it's your turn. Tell us how it was Florence who put the group on the chart. I really can't wait to read your reply!
Flo was the best singer of the group.....Diana was the feel good puppet for Berry Gordy if you know what I mean.
gee gee k that feel good puppet voice made them Standout and get 12 No.1 pop something that no other American group had done. that feel good puppet voice sang on 18 no.1 pop.. if Flo was so Good she would have been Noticed so that's a bunch of crap. Just like Jennifer Hudson although voted off American Idol Still her Voice is what got her noticed and Kept her there. Flo didn't have a unique voice nor did Mary who 40yrs later still have not had one solo hit. Sex will get you only so far to keep folks spending their Hard earn cash to see you You have to be Good and have Talent. Diana has Talent. Diana is Good and Still can Sellout a venue at 70. aint got a damn thing to do with who she slept with. It is and has Always been her Talent. which sounds good and make her fans FEEL GOOD.
Mitchell Steven
Mitchell Steven
If Flo was the best singer in the group then why did she not get a contract from another record label?
You saved my keystrokes from responding to that ignorant user comment. I could not have said it better..Thank you
Sensacional miss Diana Ross és a maior estrela da música com às jornalista e Supremas beijão
Gee how much more fabulous can it get!
Mary n Florence were wonderful. As they,Motown group said that Diana always snitched to Barry Gordy as the Motown group traveled to concerts.!!!!!!!!
I know some MEN who wanted to grow up to be like her!!
One of best
I wish she was my mother.... really I do....
Wow! Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdson looked pretty different in this interview.
I love how the song “I will survive “ was made a bit more modern.
No way is this The Supremes!
Miss Ross is class act
They wanted mary and Cindy this is why it fail
The public, the fans,, made the Supremes what they are today. Its unfortunate we can never have a REAL original members reunion, because of money issues. Now, with Mary gone, its impossible. My view is very bitter now towards them. They never thought of the fans.
Miss. D. Ross
I am a huge hug diiana Ross fan from the beginning.
But diana u got this one wrong should have never brought those other two ladies...this was one time u should have made it happen with mary and Cindy it was only the right thing to do...
Still love u
Omg, Diana BEAUTIFUL, whoopi not so much or those other girls
What was so sad was these two women never got to do the tour because of Mary Wilson causing such a fuss. They were so excited about it. That started a downward spiral for Ross as her tour was cancelled. Then her ex-husband died and she started drinking and was arrested.
Look at Star! Wow and you can't go back on the road with someone you've never been on the road with in the first place.
Them ain't no damn supremes
They were part of The Supremes in the 70s, so yes they were members of the group later on. They were just not part of the ORIGINAL Supremes, which is why (I think) the tour flopped hard!
Now I've scrolled through the other comments about them not being the real supremes but this one cracked me up 😂😂😂
Sometimes timing is everything. The Supremes were on the scene during the heyday of desegregation and they were fabulous formal attire. In addition, they were young and slim. Novelty always catches the public's attention. Afterall, that junk the Supremes was singing was not all that. Still, we are happy that there careers allowed them so many of life's advantages.
Damn Star, I forgot how large she was back in the day.
You could see the look on stars face 😂😂😂 she was like why y'all being extra for this bs? This is not the group I grew up watching. And look at Diana's face and hand when she says they were supremes after Diana left ☠️☠️☠️
Star was big as fuck!
lol u kno wut!? lolol .but u rite tho! lol, thank God she's down to a healthy size now
I'm just saying.
....And ugly too!
Always about love
Poor Miss Mary turned down 4 Million to do 30 Shows, Now she's telling the Press she's Broke (AGAIN) and is "Begging" for a Reunion Tour with Diana Ross.
Mary is not broke and she is still touring in fact im going to one of her shows coming up
Google some of Miss Mary's latest interviews; the girl is looking for Hand Outs
Only an idiot like Mary Wilson, would turn down million for 30 shows!
4 Million Doll, That's a Major Idiot
Martha Marvelette I look at ALL of her latest interviews and i dont know which ones or what mary you looking at but the Mary wilson from the supremes that STILL get royalties from all that music and other things she did IS NOT begging for no damn money smh get your facts straight
Should have been Mary and Cindy Come on Diane!!!
Is she still with the new supremes in 2018
she wouldn't be caught on a life raft with them.She ran for the hills!
@rapture ready warrior No, it was only a temporary arrangement anyway. They are still all friends, which is more than can be said for Mary Wilson. Both of these two Supremes (Scherrie and Lynda) only ever have lovely things to say about Diana, and they way she looked after them during the tour...always making sure they had whatever they needed. Mary missed out big style.
jonsa75...my your never ending pearls of wisdom almost out you as Tracee Ross herself! Well Tracee of course the 2 inauthentic Supremes kiss her ass because they need to keep their bread buttered with her blessing for their scam. As for Mary , I remember hearing Diana specifically mention and thank her when accepting the Kennedy Center award in 2007 . Where have you been Tracee? In Mama's closet trying on the old gowns too long wishing you were her! Pathetic when the kid wants to be their parent which goes completely against nature.
A true legend, and a pretty beautiful woman! 🌹❤🙏
hahaha this doesnt really count as the Supremes. After Florence the magic was gone and without Mary, even more so
Mary said no to the deal. I watched her interview on 20 20. Diana was with Barry, well we all know that now and they had a child and I would not call her a love child either but a get ahead child. Diana had that class about her. Mary sings in Europe where she is appreciated. Diana had a gathering with loads of the famous people at that fancy, well known restaurant in Beverly Hills. She told security not to let Mary in, which I thought was heartless of Diana then Mary's son died. I wonder how Diana felt about that. Diana must have felt some misgivings.
Chloe wilson One more thing. I thought less of Diana because she never attended Michael's funeral. He loved Diana but she didn't want her name associated with a "pedo", which of course, was all done to ruin Michael's career. I think those charges is what helped kill him. Michael was a love and I am so glad that Liz cared enough about Michael to stick by him. Thanks Liz.
she did not go because it was hard for her I mean how do u feel burying someone that u referred as your baby. it was hard
she did not go because it was hard for her I mean how do u feel burying someone that u referred as your baby. it was hard
benrobinson77 and look what after Diana lelf the Supremes , everyone knows oops did I say that ? They went down down and out !