I like how the staff sergeant genuinely seems to be affected by the death of that soldier, but then quickly regroups himself and yells at the dead soldier in order not to lose face.
R. Lee Ermey said he and his fellow DI's would go over the casualty lists in Stars and Stripes from Vietnam. When they'd see the name of a recruit that they'd passed through with 'KIA' next to the name he said they all felt terrible, like somehow they'd let him down. It made them even more intense in training.
@@scorp7133 not if its being or has been destroyed at that point its just internal hemorrhaging but yes they found that out in the American revolution from chopping peoples heads off
Let’s clear this up: This sort of combat exercise IS used in Basic Training / Boot Camp, at least in the Army and Marine Corps. There ARE live rounds being fired over your head as you crawl and navigate across an obstacle course. The tracer rounds are visible so there is no doubt that it is actual gunfire. Now, at least in my own personal experience in the Army in the 90’s the rounds passing overhead were higher than the movie clip portrayed. You might be able to stand up straight and not get hit, but I never saw anyone attempt to do so. There were also simulated mortars detonating with loud explosions and dirt being thrown all over the place. So even though you know it is an exercise, it is very realistic and intense when you are in the middle of it. This scene in this film seems unlikely, not because of the live fire, but because these Marines were not in boot camp. Although it was not my branch, I know that these guys would have gone through a lot of intense training prior to ever attending the sniper school. So someone nutting up like that would have been weeded out earlier and never been billeted to that school. And yes, the overhead machine gun fire should have ceased when the one guy was seen panicking. The instructor overseeing this exercise would have been toast too. You would also need more than one instructor to properly and safely supervise a live fire exercise like this.
Exactly. I remember when I was in basic training and they had live rounds going over us during this exact same crawl, but at night. And they had tracer rounds, so you could see that shit was real. It was the trippiest thing I’ve ever experienced to this day... I felt like I was in some kind of a movie, because those rounds were so goddamn close. And I could fucking hear them whizzing overhead. I didn’t know you could really hear that, I thought that was just some shit they put in movies.
@@cejannuzi, yea, this is Hollywood. There’s no way in hell somebody can get shot in real life. When that guy started freaking out, they would’ve stopped everything. And they sure as shit would not have shot right over the guy’s head as he was freaking out and stood up.
@@davidbrucemusicvideo Yes, we went through at night too. If I recall correctly, it was set up so that you could not see what you were heading into. I believe there was some sort of divider where we were lined up at. You could definitely hear it though.
After the guy stood up and got shot, I could feel a really heavy atmosphere where everybody got a reality check. When you join the Army, at some point, you need to accept the fact that you could die.
Those were Marines, buddy, not Army. Though the same principle applies to both Marine Devil Dogs and Army Grunts. Both need to be mentally prepared to die.
Was an accident, not his fault cause he has no proper time to react and the instructor didn't stop him on time. But still, something to mess with his head for life.
There was an incident similar to this in 1994 at Fort Sill. An M60 machine gun was set up about 8 feet high and had a mechanism to prevent from firing downward onto the recruits. It was a night exercise. The gun jammed and the Sergeant took it off its mount and it went off and killed the private.
I was at Ft Sill for a time... there was also an incident where a recruit dropped a grenade instead of tossing it and it killed him and the drill instructor. and that time when someone fired a live artillery round over Ft Sill because they got the azimuth of fire completely wrong... lol. I remember that during our AIT there that a man dressed up as an NCO drove up to some new privates in their basic and they had stacked arms to go to chow for lunch, leaving 4 privates posted as guards for the stacked arms. The NCO "ordered" the privates to load the arms into his cut-v so he could take them back to the armory. Guy disappeared with an entire battery's worth of M-16's and those privates went to prison. Now, I know that privates get told all kinds of bs stories to mess with their minds in Basic and AIT and other training schools but we just happened to be marching by when there were about a half dozen MP vehicles and about 20 MP just going apeshit with those 4 privates in handcuffs sitting on the curb and the Drill instructors that left the privates unattended in cuffs too.
@@Bigcheese1334 Because you are not supposed to surrender your weapon to anyone that is not in your direct chain of command. And since it's, literally, one of the very first things they tell you, they couldn't claim they didn't know
when stationed at pendelton there were some mortar sections who fired afew duds that could have been a really bad day. luckily noone was injured. in 29 palms one sgt collapsed a law trainer on his leg and the trainer round went off through his leg... another artillery guy in afghanistan, he had a round chambered and his weapon off safe and left his rifle around. his sgt picked it up aggressively and the sling somehow hit the trigger and the rifle went and he shot himself, not sure if he survived... these things happen all the time unfortinatly but 98% of the time the training is rock solid but its not without its risks...
yea and it's effective when done correctly. I have no fucking clue why he didn't use PR rounds though ... I can understand though that he did that to make them feel numb to bullets and granades popping all around them but he literally was shooting that m249 at their fucking heads
They could have just used rubber bullets or something. It's still a projectile blowing up the dirt and the gunfire sound is still just as loud. Just as effective as live rounds... without the death
Hahah nice catch.... Actually pretty beautiful friggen catch. Crazy but to be fair, killings by a bullet.. Remember swafford had a sniper mission and the jets took out the towers instead? No proof those guys died but I'd say those consecutive bombs launched they didn't survive that attack lol
I thought the rest of the team got some kills, remember when they came back after their op and a teammate asked "did you get a fucking kill" kinda like saying we did but did you? Or maybe i misunderstood the teammate tone.
He was absolutely robbed of that second Oscar. Every other movie DS/DI just emulated Gossett or Ermey (along w/many other real-life instructors). Foxx was so realistic to me.
I had a friend who was a runt in high school. About 5'2''. He joined the Marines and grew a foot! He said his DI's loved him because he was always going back for seconds in the mess and ate all he got. I was proud as hell for that guy.
“You guys crawl like old people f***!” Back to when one contestant of Hell’s Kitchen, long time back, said to the others “You guys cook like old people f***!”
@@AstonishingSodApe Productivity? In what sense? Sitting on your ass doing paperwork? Being in the military training is hell but its still physical work that isn't robotic, soulless work.
when i was younger it pazzled me how people even manage to die during training, and then when i went to the army i witnessed how one poor lad shoot himself into the head while climbing out of tranches , and i realised how simple it actually is
@@ghakim9 quite foolishly, while being in trench he did not put his AK on fuse ,then when we received order to climb fast while holding our Ak on chest section with one hand and using second hand helping ourselves to climb, while climbing he slipped and fell down directly on his ak and his finger accidentally pulled the trigger and he got 5 rounds to his head , died instantly
first of all , the commanding officer would be court-martialed for failing to see a trainee under stress. Second of all they do actually do this to get you used to fire over your head but its never anything this remotely close as to put trainees in danger.
I can't say what it was like in the early '90s, but yeah, when I did something like this two years ago it wasn't nearly as close. We all kept our heads down just fine, but the gun was a few feet higher, you'd probably have to stand up all the way to get your melon popped.
in '97 they DID do this but it was from a elevated position. why? in case someone had a medical emergency, also the firing position was 20m back and the drill sgt was walking around upright yelling at us. This is pure hollywood
My experience in the military including going to a training drill where we were told "One week ago, somebody screwed up on this course and got killed". I don't think it was a lie. The people training us were combat veterans, not actors. I think there is actually some breakage in combat training (i.e. some % of trainees that are expected to die or be gravely injured). During my course, one of the trainees was injured badly enough to get a discharge. (Back injury). Wasn't his fault - his buddy screwed up. The injured man got discharged, the dumb buddy didn't.
That's what I thought. Even in seal buds, they do not fire so close to the guys. This is unrealistic or a portrayal of an old time when this used to happen. If any exercise were designed like this, it would be counterproductive. The point is to weed out the weak. Not get them killed. Jesus.
Former Hospital Corpsman.. this rarely happened that I can remember at least in the 80's to 2006, I did have a patient that broke his neck, stabilized him and sent him off, mostly foot injuries and heat exhaustion.
I went through this training when I was in the Army. They used blanks and fired high enough over the trainee's head where even if they stood up and the rounds were live, they wouldn't get shot.
I was a Canadian Reservist in the era known as the "dark 90's". We had almost zero training budget, and my QL2 and 3 were an absolute joke. The instructors were friends with certain recruits before the course even started, and REALLY played favourites. Certain candidates were never yelled at, never got fire piquet when in barracks, always got the sweetheart shifts when we had to do sentry duty in the field, and were treated much more leniently than the rest of us. We had one instructor actually start a relationship with a female candidate at least 10 years younger than he was WHILE ON COURSE. Of course it got swept under the rug, and any attempt to report the fraternization got quashed immediately by the course warrant officer. I hung around for a few years hoping to see improvement in some way, but when it didn't happen, I lost interest and eventually got out. There is a reason it's referred to as "the dark 90's" by those of us that were there.
We did the night infiltration training with 2 M-60's filling the night sky with live red tracer rounds over our heads-except the Army made sure both were elevated at least 40 feet over the course. They also played 'Ride Of The Valkries' over the PA while we did it.
It happens, couple years ago there was a guy from one of our sister units (others units that we bump into regularly during training and courses etc) who was on a live fire training course doing CQB kind of stuff, apparently what happened was after doing a run in the killhouse the were unloading their weapons and 1 guy didnt' do the drills properly and discharged a round into the back of another guy, he died a few days later. The army mourned and investigated not sure what came of it but it was quickly swept under the rug and listed as a training accident. In short happens all the time, guys get tired or are lazy and make mistakes and in a combat environment that can prove fatal and is the reason why they are so intense when it comes to training, they want it realistic and for the guys to be stressed so they learn how to do the job in the worst conditions when it counts.2
I remember when I was in basic training and they had live rounds going over us during this exact same crawl, but at night. And they had tracer rounds, so you could see that shit was real. It was the trippiest thing I’ve ever experienced to this day... I felt like I was in some kind of a movie, because those rounds were so goddamn close. And I could fucking hear them whizzing overhead. I didn’t know you could really hear that, I thought that was just some shit they put in movies.
I went to Marine Corps bootcamp, at some point they made us crawl across the trenches, I as a bit shy on sleep at the time and I remember thinking "Oh wow, what pretty fireworks".
hes actually a really good SSG he’s passionate about what he’s teaching which motivates and is good for passing on knowledge creating better soldiers/marines
They still use live rounds in training like this, at least the Army does I know. But they're in elevated positions with mounts that keep them from traversing and firing too low and hit someone. Like 10+ feet above you. No such thing as blank tracer rounds. Look up night infiltration course.
My grandpa went through military training and did the crawling under barbwire like that. He said he saw a guy get nearly cut in half by an m60 because he stood up. I believe him.
@@matheusstratocaster ohhh okay. But what does that have to do with "getoutofmyhead" written multiple times without space anywhere? I have played among us but I am still not getting it.
that movie is very realistic though, I remember I had instructor just like him who trained us. One fact, during basic training, particularly mud scene in life military they shoot with blank bullets, so none gets accidentally killed. There is more chance dying from catching cold, rather than getting a bullet.
During training we had times when live ammunition was fired between us from behind. It happened not because it was part of our regime but because individual instructors just wanted to do it for their own amusement. When I saw this scene it underlined how real life is crazier than movies. At least thats how it seemed in the SADF in the 1980's.
Helpful tips. 1: Always have 2 drill sergeants 2: aim higher to where you can stand up. It still is immersive in the actual head of combat. 3: If one guy seems to panic and be afraid, stop the exercise immediately, they are most likely the man who died in this scene. The reasons are because jesus christ so much paperwork needs to be filled, The gunner will have a mental breakdown, and everyone will feel like dogshit.
Any overhead fire exercise has (had) more than enough room for someone to stand up underneath. This guy firing an M60E3 (which were phased out in 1996, but would still have been in use for this) manually with no depression stakes and not in any sort of elevated position is absurd. Machinegun fire (any gunfire, honestly) sounds VERY different when pointed at you than when you are firing it, so it does have training value. I don't know how things are anymore, but when I was a machinegunner at Lejeune, there was a live-fire range called L-1011 that was hands-down the most dangerous range in the Corps. It was an overhead fire range. 0331s had no problems there, but when non-experts ran overhead fire at night, especially with 249s, people could get stitched up. It was one of the reasons that 0331 NCOs went to Advanced Machinegun Leaders Course and would occasionally get detached out to teach non-infantry units how to properly employ their machineguns. Honestly have no idea how that works now, but it certainly must be much, much better. I got out in 2003 and there has been a ton of combat since then to inform correct training.
Jamie Foxx does a good job. As a marine from 02--06, and watching this on 05, we started brining back the "right ricky tick" saying. Marines use lots of diddys
This brings back a memory i have. Nothing bad happened but we were training with live rounds. The boot LT came in and decided he knew everything for his first training exercise. He almost killed 3 Marines by telling them to go a different direction when we were firing. And it was at night. Fucker almost made me a murderer
Not a soldier, not even close, but i do try to understand and absolutely respect the fact that this is necessary to make civilians, actually, soldiers.
I will never forget the first time I heard a round pass by. I remember thinking wow you can really hear it I thought it would sound different than it did
As I recall it, we used real bullets in the army too. HOWEVER, I was told that they were 10 ft up in the air. So unless you had a sudden urge to do an air Jordan during Night infiltration Course (NIC at night for thos who remember) you good.
@@chainlinkfence23 Any logical person would of stopped shooting given the ample amount of time it took the person to stand up. Also when shooting a gun over people's head, I'd think that he would be focusing on where he is shooting and making sure not to hit the people.
So in Army basic in 2015, they are firing a bit over you, probably 10-15 feet, but I swear it feels like those fucking rounds are whizzing by your head. You climb out of that trench and see the muzzle flash and think "Oh fuck, I might die." You know you won't, obviously cause it's basic training and probably the most insignificant thing you'll do in the Army, but fuck it feels real.
So I went to basic in 2018 and yes they actually used live tracer rounds overhead. how do I know this? Because during the night infiltration course or "nik at night" you typically have 2 or 3 towers way over your head shooting 249s or 240s as fast as possible and you have those lazer beam like lines overhead as you climb over the trench they have, making sure that even if you were to stand up the live rounds aren't going to dome you. Anyone who says the army or marines for that matter don't do this training either never had it during their training cycle or they subscribe to the same gun fudd boomer logic that old folks use to say that the 1911 is the best pistol in the world and that you don't need an AR15 because a springfield M1A or Remington M700 in .308 or 30-06 is all you need.
@@LyraniaLothar yeah! Even with covid my basic training experience was pretty interesting, we went through a gas chamber filled with tear gas (that was really fun) we went and threw grenades, we did the night infiltration course (getting shot at while low crawling) we also marched 60 miles total in basic!
You face the danger, you know the danger. People can have problem with real rounds in training, but greatest units comes out exacly from trainings like this. That was and will be part of training for people who want to kill not get killed.
@@elchicogore9517 don’t @ me I was just telling him it still happens commonly. This is just a dramatic version of, because it’s a movie. But - The US army lost 20 soldiers in training in 2020 which is a record low and that’s US Army only, so who knows how many fatalities there are in 3rd world countries and others. To say using live ammunition is careful and safe, for me is absolutely hilarious.
I feel bad for the machine gunner in this instance, it’s not really his fault, he was told to fire above the troops heads when a soldier stood up, you even see him look down and put his hands over his head in the background when the seargant is waking over to the dead soldier
I like how the staff sergeant genuinely seems to be affected by the death of that soldier, but then quickly regroups himself and yells at the dead soldier in order not to lose face.
You mean marine?
@@unlucky1416 You that sensitive?
@@Skyr0.2 Semper Fi!!!!!
He is not a soldier. He's a Marine.
@@robinrobyn1714 all marines are soldiers
Definition of "soldier":
- one engaged in military service
All the staff sergeant is thinking is how much paperwork he's about to have to fill out.
I think that's why he said "god help me".
@@GustavoMendozaCanales He said "God help him" the subtitle was wrong.
I have a question, what happens to the staff sergeant in case something like that happens?
@@sohailbaloch8267 Probably chewed out and demoted at best. Ft. Leavenworth is the worst.
@@sohailbaloch8267 he is going to be NJP to oblivion and send to the brig for eternity and maybe regular prison after his contract is up
3:19 that poor gunner in the background
"oh god....what have i done?"
Hey, nice catch.
Yea he is like I knew it should not have been live rounds
I have seen the movie 2 times and i have never see that
@@santiagooarg6990 I saw it first time i watched because I wanted to see how he reacted.
I didn't noticed that. Nice catch.
"If you listened to me, you would still be fucking alive right now" - every DI ever
Should've listened
True that!
The DI after you punch him in the throat when he woke you up with a flashlight: I I am happy
R. Lee Ermey said he and his fellow DI's would go over the casualty lists in Stars and Stripes from Vietnam. When they'd see the name of a recruit that they'd passed through with 'KIA' next to the name he said they all felt terrible, like somehow they'd let him down. It made them even more intense in training.
guy getting shot in the head... that's fine. guy cursing? oh ,no.. we can't have that.
fucking shit thats true
@@gabriielsimao6051 Don't you mean f*cking sh!t? There are children present!
Or, god forbid, someone showing a tit. Double standard of America.
It just wouldnt be decent to have someome say fuck while a bunch of other guys get sprayed with brain soup.
@@SomeGuy-sj1ly very offensive, check you privilege.
Nothing ruins a good movie like unnecessary bleeps.
"Nothing ruins a good *beep* like *beep* *beep*" - Michael Gonzales
I agree, but am I the only one who thinks bleeps can be funnier if used right? What do you think?
@@ale58301 ooooo
@@thecosmochannel Yeah, I agree. Like Happy Gilmore..
But in a god damn war movie, there's no place for censorship of swearing.
@@Totalwar09 Very true
Even after death, he still scolded him😂😂😂
Because he didn't ask permission first...
@@gamechaser002 😂😂😂 he felt sorry for him and angry at the same time, his face said it all..
The brain stays alive for 7 minutes
@@scorp7133 what-
@@scorp7133 not if its being or has been destroyed at that point its just internal hemorrhaging but yes they found that out in the American revolution from chopping peoples heads off
Let’s clear this up: This sort of combat exercise IS used in Basic Training / Boot Camp, at least in the Army and Marine Corps. There ARE live rounds being fired over your head as you crawl and navigate across an obstacle course. The tracer rounds are visible so there is no doubt that it is actual gunfire.
Now, at least in my own personal experience in the Army in the 90’s the rounds passing overhead were higher than the movie clip portrayed. You might be able to stand up straight and not get hit, but I never saw anyone attempt to do so. There were also simulated mortars detonating with loud explosions and dirt being thrown all over the place.
So even though you know it is an exercise, it is very realistic and intense when you are in the middle of it. This scene in this film seems unlikely, not because of the live fire, but because these Marines were not in boot camp. Although it was not my branch, I know that these guys would have gone through a lot of intense training prior to ever attending the sniper school. So someone nutting up like that would have been weeded out earlier and never been billeted to that school.
And yes, the overhead machine gun fire should have ceased when the one guy was seen panicking. The instructor overseeing this exercise would have been toast too. You would also need more than one instructor to properly and safely supervise a live fire exercise like this.
Exactly. I remember when I was in basic training and they had live rounds going over us during this exact same crawl, but at night. And they had tracer rounds, so you could see that shit was real. It was the trippiest thing I’ve ever experienced to this day... I felt like I was in some kind of a movie, because those rounds were so goddamn close. And I could fucking hear them whizzing overhead. I didn’t know you could really hear that, I thought that was just some shit they put in movies.
@@cejannuzi, yea, this is Hollywood. There’s no way in hell somebody can get shot in real life. When that guy started freaking out, they would’ve stopped everything. And they sure as shit would not have shot right over the guy’s head as he was freaking out and stood up.
But was this in 1989?
@@blickyrobyason5173 huh?
@@davidbrucemusicvideo Yes, we went through at night too. If I recall correctly, it was set up so that you could not see what you were heading into. I believe there was some sort of divider where we were lined up at. You could definitely hear it though.
I love how the amount of people training decreases without outright telling the viewers, a kind of subtle detail, a few people might miss
What subtle detail?
@@u4icwargasm jogging scenes.
nice catch
so they were getting picked off one by one? i never noticed that. nice catch
@@1981bevo I think the implication is that they were failing different sections of the course, as it's likely a competitive course.
After the guy stood up and got shot, I could feel a really heavy atmosphere where everybody got a reality check. When you join the Army, at some point, you need to accept the fact that you could die.
Those were Marines, buddy, not Army. Though the same principle applies to both Marine Devil Dogs and Army Grunts. Both need to be mentally prepared to die.
Everyone has to die someday
That is True about the Army, but this movie is about the Marines.
@@meatloaf5772 actually it’s inaccurate because marines don’t see action 😂 that’s why they switch to army
@@flyingpaladin617 Not from violence or suicide. Enough people in this world have died from that already.
all the censoring defeats the purpose of the language of the Marines lmao
So fucking stupid, right? Ruins it.
No one gives a shit!
This channel can't even censor anything properly..
PREACH
@@abraham50sd I do
3:20 the machine gunners reaction is perfect
Yea poor dude gonna have to live with the thought that he shoot his own dude in the head.
He's not going to get arrested for shooting that guy is he?
He was just felt that he shot hus own guy
@@robertisham5279 in real life his commanding officer would
Was an accident, not his fault cause he has no proper time to react and the instructor didn't stop him on time. But still, something to mess with his head for life.
RICO! You are relieved of squad command!
And a whipping but they cut it out in jarhead
Noice
hahshs underrated comment xD
What why? I like my squad
10 lashes!
There was an incident similar to this in 1994 at Fort Sill. An M60 machine gun was set up about 8 feet high and had a mechanism to prevent from firing downward onto the recruits. It was a night exercise. The gun jammed and the Sergeant took it off its mount and it went off and killed the private.
I was at Ft Sill for a time...
there was also an incident where a recruit dropped a grenade instead of tossing it and it killed him and the drill instructor.
and that time when someone fired a live artillery round over Ft Sill because they got the azimuth of fire completely wrong...
lol.
I remember that during our AIT there that a man dressed up as an NCO drove up to some new privates in their basic and they had stacked arms to go to chow for lunch, leaving 4 privates posted as guards for the stacked arms. The NCO "ordered" the privates to load the arms into his cut-v so he could take them back to the armory. Guy disappeared with an entire battery's worth of M-16's and those privates went to prison. Now, I know that privates get told all kinds of bs stories to mess with their minds in Basic and AIT and other training schools but we just happened to be marching by when there were about a half dozen MP vehicles and about 20 MP just going apeshit with those 4 privates in handcuffs sitting on the curb and the Drill instructors that left the privates unattended in cuffs too.
@@jefferyrbrown why did the privates go to prison? After all how are they supposed to know that he wasn't just another officer
@@Bigcheese1334
Because you are not supposed to surrender your weapon to anyone that is not in your direct chain of command. And since it's, literally, one of the very first things they tell you, they couldn't claim they didn't know
@@jefferyrbrown oh I see
when stationed at pendelton there were some mortar sections who fired afew duds that could have been a really bad day. luckily noone was injured. in 29 palms one sgt collapsed a law trainer on his leg and the trainer round went off through his leg... another artillery guy in afghanistan, he had a round chambered and his weapon off safe and left his rifle around. his sgt picked it up aggressively and the sling somehow hit the trigger and the rifle went and he shot himself, not sure if he survived... these things happen all the time unfortinatly but 98% of the time the training is rock solid but its not without its risks...
Using real bullets in training, truly jarheads
Army does it too. :/
yea and it's effective when done correctly. I have no fucking clue why he didn't use PR rounds though ... I can understand though that he did that to make them feel numb to bullets and granades popping all around them but he literally was shooting that m249 at their fucking heads
They could have just used rubber bullets or something. It's still a projectile blowing up the dirt and the gunfire sound is still just as loud.
Just as effective as live rounds... without the death
@@Bloom_HD Yea, maybe if Democrats were in charge of the Military and we wanted to be laughed out of wars.
@@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 laughed out for not risking killing your own soldiers? I'm pretty sure you'd get laughed out much more for doing so.
3:12 was the only actual killing in the movie and it was from there own troops
Hahah nice catch.... Actually pretty beautiful friggen catch. Crazy but to be fair, killings by a bullet..
Remember swafford had a sniper mission and the jets took out the towers instead? No proof those guys died but I'd say those consecutive bombs launched they didn't survive that attack lol
@@laa748 are you high?
Fr out of the whole movie?!
How is your son died mam'?
He was shot in the fucking head by his own troop in fucking training drill.
I thought the rest of the team got some kills, remember when they came back after their op and a teammate asked "did you get a fucking kill" kinda like saying we did but did you? Or maybe i misunderstood the teammate tone.
I really think this was one of Jamie's best performances. He was so believable and authentic as the SNCO
He was absolutely robbed of that second Oscar. Every other movie DS/DI just emulated Gossett or Ermey (along w/many other real-life instructors). Foxx was so realistic to me.
This movie
Training 90%
War 5%
Drama 5%
This movie
Training 30%
War 20 %
Drama 1%
Makes me want to be a marine 49% 😎
thats how the military be
except add 20 to drama and take it from the other two
Well it is showing the life of a marine
Those numbers are pretty accurate! If you're not deployed, you're either training or cleaning!
I had a friend who was a runt in high school. About 5'2''. He joined the Marines and grew a foot! He said his DI's loved him because he was always going back for seconds in the mess and ate all he got. I was proud as hell for that guy.
a foot??? wtf how
@@rnrthelad29 Like I said, he was always going back for seconds. Late teenage growth spurt. It happens.
@@rnrthelad29 growth spurt + testosterone + regulated breakfast, lunch and dinner
A foot taller? God bless him 🙏
You don't get seconds, Bob.
“You guys crawl like old people f***!”
Back to when one contestant of Hell’s Kitchen, long time back, said to the others “You guys cook like old people f***!”
Further back “You climb obstacles like old people f***. “ Full metal jacket
I thought that too
I thought that myself. Season One. Funny af.
...And when one inhabitant of Hell's Kitchen got told by one Gunnery sergeant: "You climb obstacles like the old people f*ck!!"
It was once a bumper sticker too, "You drive like old people f*&*K, slow and stupid."
Imagine the world we’d have if every boss was like Jamie Fox in this film
We'd all be unemployed, because everybody quit!!
Nazi Germany lol
Productivity would increase by 40, 50%
@@AstonishingSodApe for like a month until everyon quits.
@@AstonishingSodApe Productivity? In what sense? Sitting on your ass doing paperwork? Being in the military training is hell but its still physical work that isn't robotic, soulless work.
when i was younger it pazzled me how people even manage to die during training, and then when i went to the army i witnessed how one poor lad shoot himself into the head while climbing out of tranches , and i realised how simple it actually is
that was caused by simply not being attentive enough...
What happened, exactly?
@@ghakim9 quite foolishly, while being in trench he did not put his AK on
fuse ,then when we received order to climb fast while holding our Ak on chest section with one hand and using second hand helping ourselves to climb, while climbing he slipped and fell down directly on his ak and his finger accidentally pulled the trigger and he got 5 rounds to his head , died instantly
@Fat Bear ukrainian
@@yegorperepelytsya7812 My prayers to you and your people in this time of need.
first of all , the commanding officer would be court-martialed for failing to see a trainee under stress. Second of all they do actually do this to get you used to fire over your head but its never anything this remotely close as to put trainees in danger.
you must be airforce
I can't say what it was like in the early '90s, but yeah, when I did something like this two years ago it wasn't nearly as close. We all kept our heads down just fine, but the gun was a few feet higher, you'd probably have to stand up all the way to get your melon popped.
in '97 they DID do this but it was from a elevated position. why? in case someone had a medical emergency, also the firing position was 20m back and the drill sgt was walking around upright yelling at us. This is pure hollywood
My experience in the military including going to a training drill where we were told "One week ago, somebody screwed up on this course and got killed". I don't think it was a lie. The people training us were combat veterans, not actors. I think there is actually some breakage in combat training (i.e. some % of trainees that are expected to die or be gravely injured). During my course, one of the trainees was injured badly enough to get a discharge. (Back injury). Wasn't his fault - his buddy screwed up. The injured man got discharged, the dumb buddy didn't.
That's what I thought. Even in seal buds, they do not fire so close to the guys. This is unrealistic or a portrayal of an old time when this used to happen. If any exercise were designed like this, it would be counterproductive. The point is to weed out the weak. Not get them killed. Jesus.
Hmm so this is what Jarhead, in morse code sounds like.
Former Hospital Corpsman.. this rarely happened that I can remember at least in the 80's to 2006, I did have a patient that broke his neck, stabilized him and sent him off, mostly foot injuries and heat exhaustion.
I went through this training when I was in the Army. They used blanks and fired high enough over the trainee's head where even if they stood up and the rounds were live, they wouldn't get shot.
I didnt notice a befa on that weapon so im guessing they were firing "live " rounds
Jamie Foxx was a force of nature in this film
"The more thou sweateth in training the less thou bleedeth in combat".-Richard Marcinko
the beeps just make this funny lol
the doctor airsoft nah, the original sounds way better
@@cpldalton5966 I,m not saying it's better or worse. But this version if way more funny
@@cpldalton5966 Tho if i wanted more emotion then ya the org is way better of course.
It's a good thing Samuel L Jackson ain't their drill sergeant, otherwise it be a cursing parade.
Peter falling down the stairs 🤣😂 was the shit..
Jamie fox plays a perfect role of a Marine Staff SGT in the grunts. Well done.
To a tee.
Lol, I have never heard any Marine refer to the Marine Corps Infantry as "the grunts"
I was a Canadian Reservist in the era known as the "dark 90's". We had almost zero training budget, and my QL2 and 3 were an absolute joke. The instructors were friends with certain recruits before the course even started, and REALLY played favourites. Certain candidates were never yelled at, never got fire piquet when in barracks, always got the sweetheart shifts when we had to do sentry duty in the field, and were treated much more leniently than the rest of us. We had one instructor actually start a relationship with a female candidate at least 10 years younger than he was WHILE ON COURSE. Of course it got swept under the rug, and any attempt to report the fraternization got quashed immediately by the course warrant officer. I hung around for a few years hoping to see improvement in some way, but when it didn't happen, I lost interest and eventually got out. There is a reason it's referred to as "the dark 90's" by those of us that were there.
Weren't their friends if they were going easy on them, there's a reason the trainings hard and they beast you
We did the night infiltration training with 2 M-60's filling the night sky with live red tracer rounds over our heads-except the Army made sure both were elevated at least 40 feet over the course. They also played 'Ride Of The Valkries' over the PA while we did it.
The worst part about that shot is it was the LAST ROUND of that burst. Had he got up a split second later, the SGT would have stopped the firing.
why censor this.. its 2020. Not a telegraphic message.
RUclips throws a fit over everything.
Just showed a guy getting shot in the head and his corpse hanging limp on barb wire? No problem. Some bad language? No no censor that shit
@Jake Heke private entities don't have to.
Yes because we definitely don't know what they're saying with the F ***
Even a kid would understand that lmao
@@RealParadoxed not the point.
Jamie Foxx yelling at the dead body gets me every time
While he said, "Scratch your nose, you die." I was scratching my nose at the time. After that, I slowly stopped scratching it.
Damn, I enjoyed this! :))
3:19 look in the backround, imagine that guys feeling when he shots a friendly who was scared... thats a trauma tight there :(
Nice detail
Imagine having to tell a parent their kid was killed in a training excercise
@@proantagonist5042 well, Toby Keith's father lost his right eye at an Army drill
It happens, couple years ago there was a guy from one of our sister units (others units that we bump into regularly during training and courses etc) who was on a live fire training course doing CQB kind of stuff, apparently what happened was after doing a run in the killhouse the were unloading their weapons and 1 guy didnt' do the drills properly and discharged a round into the back of another guy, he died a few days later. The army mourned and investigated not sure what came of it but it was quickly swept under the rug and listed as a training accident. In short happens all the time, guys get tired or are lazy and make mistakes and in a combat environment that can prove fatal and is the reason why they are so intense when it comes to training, they want it realistic and for the guys to be stressed so they learn how to do the job in the worst conditions when it counts.2
I remember when I was in basic training and they had live rounds going over us during this exact same crawl, but at night. And they had tracer rounds, so you could see that shit was real. It was the trippiest thing I’ve ever experienced to this day... I felt like I was in some kind of a movie, because those rounds were so goddamn close. And I could fucking hear them whizzing overhead. I didn’t know you could really hear that, I thought that was just some shit they put in movies.
I went to Marine Corps bootcamp, at some point they made us crawl across the trenches, I as a bit shy on sleep at the time and I remember thinking "Oh wow, what pretty fireworks".
@@jordanparman9433 LOL!
you can pretty hear them...
@@Galova Yes, they are very pretty.
@@davidbrucemusicvideo don't tell theyre also sexy
USMC 2000-2005
We were monsters back then. Still am.
Staff sergeant Is pissed cause he died without permission
1:35 bro the drill sergeant is a legit savage
Bro is not a drill instructor
When you get hurt, a lot of paper work. When you die, even more paper work.
Ex Australian Army and I love this flick as it shows all the time filling in being on the job.
Him screaming at a dead Marine for not following the simple orders that could have kept him alive is 1000%
he didn’t have permission to die
At 2:03 they bleeped but you can still hear the echo
Clever
"No Sir".....no Marine would dare call an NCO.....let alone a Staff NCO...."SIR"...
What do you call them?
@@drk1100 By their rank
"We've all been taught that thou shalt not kill, but hear this: F that shit"
lmao
hes actually a really good SSG he’s passionate about what he’s teaching which motivates and is good for passing on knowledge creating better soldiers/marines
when the jamie foxx character says, "god help me", you know he is taking 100% of the blame on himself.
The Marine Corps would never authorize this now. The risk is not worth the training value
They still use live rounds in training like this, at least the Army does I know. But they're in elevated positions with mounts that keep them from traversing and firing too low and hit someone. Like 10+ feet above you. No such thing as blank tracer rounds.
Look up night infiltration course.
@@Timmy2384”Train your cadets as a team” that’s one of the leadership traits
My grandpa went through military training and did the crawling under barbwire like that. He said he saw a guy get nearly cut in half by an m60 because he stood up. I believe him.
does it have caliber big enough to cut in half? I belive it's 7.62 or something
@@Galova exit wounds can be real nasty
@@Galova Maybe many rounds lined up on him
I was in the Navy. We had NOTHING like this shit. I'll stick with giving yall Marines a ride wherever ya gotta go. God bless you Marines.
Uber
Corpsman are invaluable to a platoon of grunts. Thanks doc. Vietnam 69-72
"You guys crawl like old people f**k" Best line I've ever heard
I *beep* love this *beep* videoclip *beep* ey!
13y
I feel like beep was the best character in this film and they really underutilized them.
I couldn't imagine accidently killing you're own brother
*your
Marines... They can't catch a break... Even after he's dead he's still yelled at 😂
And always remember to turn off friendly fire.
This Staff Sergeant is legit chill
The way the scene just goes completely quiet after the cease-fire, and all you hear is the rain is so beautiful
man the anger he had when he yelled "stupid fuck", I felt that.
2:14 getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhead
Is everything ok ?
@@johnprice233 amoogus
@@johnprice233 If you pay attention, the target looks like it has a visor just like the "among us" characters.
@@matheusstratocaster ohhh okay. But what does that have to do with "getoutofmyhead" written multiple times without space anywhere? I have played among us but I am still not getting it.
@@johnprice233 Its in the meme. The person sees almost everything as the among us character.
that movie is very realistic though, I remember I had instructor just like him who trained us.
One fact, during basic training, particularly mud scene in life military they shoot with blank bullets, so none gets accidentally killed. There is more chance dying from catching cold, rather than getting a bullet.
During training we had times when live ammunition was fired between us from behind. It happened not because it was part of our regime but because individual instructors just wanted to do it for their own amusement. When I saw this scene it underlined how real life is crazier than movies. At least thats how it seemed in the SADF in the 1980's.
2:43 That quote about old people made me think of Full Metal Jacket which also has to do with Vietnam and the marine corps.
Jarhead is during Gulf War, in 90-91
Helpful tips.
1: Always have 2 drill sergeants
2: aim higher to where you can stand up. It still is immersive in the actual head of combat.
3: If one guy seems to panic and be afraid, stop the exercise immediately, they are most likely the man who died in this scene.
The reasons are because jesus christ so much paperwork needs to be filled, The gunner will have a mental breakdown, and everyone will feel like dogshit.
Not to mention that a fellow soldier, who hasn´t even seen combat, just died. Fuck the paperwork, imagine beeing the rep who gets to tell the family!
This is after boot camp.
@@friedipar There's no soldiers in this movie.
I don't mind killing people, but paperwork?!
@@MrCmon113 Bureucratical responsibility.
Damn imagine dying in training and not in combat.
Any overhead fire exercise has (had) more than enough room for someone to stand up underneath. This guy firing an M60E3 (which were phased out in 1996, but would still have been in use for this) manually with no depression stakes and not in any sort of elevated position is absurd. Machinegun fire (any gunfire, honestly) sounds VERY different when pointed at you than when you are firing it, so it does have training value. I don't know how things are anymore, but when I was a machinegunner at Lejeune, there was a live-fire range called L-1011 that was hands-down the most dangerous range in the Corps. It was an overhead fire range. 0331s had no problems there, but when non-experts ran overhead fire at night, especially with 249s, people could get stitched up. It was one of the reasons that 0331 NCOs went to Advanced Machinegun Leaders Course and would occasionally get detached out to teach non-infantry units how to properly employ their machineguns. Honestly have no idea how that works now, but it certainly must be much, much better. I got out in 2003 and there has been a ton of combat since then to inform correct training.
3:32 bro just insulted a dead body😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love how the platoon consists of less and less people at each run.
Jamie Foxx does a good job. As a marine from 02--06, and watching this on 05, we started brining back the "right ricky tick" saying. Marines use lots of diddys
3:31--I'm sure you hurt his feelings
This shit happens in real life during training accidents
best way to watch this clip: close youtube. go watch the movie without the beeps.
0:45 yeah paintballs they’re hurt in your forehead 🗿💀🗿😂
This brings back a memory i have. Nothing bad happened but we were training with live rounds. The boot LT came in and decided he knew everything for his first training exercise. He almost killed 3 Marines by telling them to go a different direction when we were firing. And it was at night. Fucker almost made me a murderer
Not a soldier, not even close, but i do try to understand and absolutely respect the fact that this is necessary to make civilians, actually, soldiers.
Marines, not soldiers. Soldiers are in the army
Disagree you can train someone to shoot a gun with out dehumanizing them.
@@lungjuice5366 this is wrong on so many levels
@@SaGeOwL4891
You say you have no clue, but you're completely married to this idiotic meme.
Staff sgt is pissed cuz now there is an investigation as to why some family is getting a couple hundred grand because their son died in “training”
At least he didn't die in vain. The SSGT turned it into a teachable moment about following orders.
I like that Staff Sergeant. He knows his sh*t and can explain it in simple words.
Anyone notice when he reloads no casing is ejected but you still hear it
Yeah they screwed that scene up especially since it's a bolt action single shot with no magazine.
I will never forget the first time I heard a round pass by. I remember thinking wow you can really hear it I thought it would sound different than it did
0:10 the first line in rhyme sounds familiar to me
Gangsta paradise
Gangsta paradise but also it’s from the bible
It’s a verse from the Bible except baddest m-f-er in the valley
3:20 the way that s-word was beeped made it funny
COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC! not a single crayon in sight..
0:41 VA be like not Service-Connected
As I recall it, we used real bullets in the army too. HOWEVER, I was told that they were 10 ft up in the air. So unless you had a sudden urge to do an air Jordan during Night infiltration Course (NIC at night for thos who remember) you good.
3:13 that was no accident but intentional and I'm sticking to that belief.
Can you explain?
@@chainlinkfence23 Any logical person would of stopped shooting given the ample amount of time it took the person to stand up. Also when shooting a gun over people's head, I'd think that he would be focusing on where he is shooting and making sure not to hit the people.
@@MeistGamingChannel valid as fuck actually
3:32 you friend when you die in COD
He's actually a good sargeant 😂
So in Army basic in 2015, they are firing a bit over you, probably 10-15 feet, but I swear it feels like those fucking rounds are whizzing by your head. You climb out of that trench and see the muzzle flash and think "Oh fuck, I might die." You know you won't, obviously cause it's basic training and probably the most insignificant thing you'll do in the Army, but fuck it feels real.
So I went to basic in 2018 and yes they actually used live tracer rounds overhead. how do I know this? Because during the night infiltration course or "nik at night" you typically have 2 or 3 towers way over your head shooting 249s or 240s as fast as possible and you have those lazer beam like lines overhead as you climb over the trench they have, making sure that even if you were to stand up the live rounds aren't going to dome you. Anyone who says the army or marines for that matter don't do this training either never had it during their training cycle or they subscribe to the same gun fudd boomer logic that old folks use to say that the 1911 is the best pistol in the world and that you don't need an AR15 because a springfield M1A or Remington M700 in .308 or 30-06 is all you need.
3:10 wtf why are they training with real bullets in that szenario?!
It’s not something the corps actually does. Just a movie scene.
Its to get them used to moving, when live rounds are going around them. Not sure if they do this at their BCT
@@drewbaaca they did in my basic training they were just 10 feet above us
@@Specialist_wecialist06 Holy shit really? I honestly tought that this was movie shit, my respect to you.
@@LyraniaLothar yeah! Even with covid my basic training experience was pretty interesting, we went through a gas chamber filled with tear gas (that was really fun) we went and threw grenades, we did the night infiltration course (getting shot at while low crawling) we also marched 60 miles total in basic!
Jamie Fox is just too good at everything he does !!! Elevated 🙌🏼
I feel like dying in training is another horrible way to go.
2:00 Should've censored the echo too lol
You face the danger, you know the danger.
People can have problem with real rounds in training, but greatest units comes out exacly from trainings like this. That was and will be part of training for people who want to kill not get killed.
No. This is downright criminal if you ask me. The point is to weed out the weak and kick them out of training. Not get them killed.
Probably this wouldve been a time when this happened. But I doubt it is legal these days.
@@rsn9394 it’s still used in many countries in the world
@@slingshot7792 Yes but it's cautious, so things like this don't happen
@@elchicogore9517 don’t @ me I was just telling him it still happens commonly. This is just a dramatic version of, because it’s a movie. But -
The US army lost 20 soldiers in training in 2020 which is a record low and that’s US Army only, so who knows how many fatalities there are in 3rd world countries and others. To say using live ammunition is careful and safe, for me is absolutely hilarious.
I feel bad for the machine gunner in this instance, it’s not really his fault, he was told to fire above the troops heads when a soldier stood up, you even see him look down and put his hands over his head in the background when the seargant is waking over to the dead soldier
*Sergeant
There's no soldiers in this movie.
@@andymiller6661 bro what?
@@Qdaman17 What's confusing?
@@andymiller6661 who?
@@Qdaman17 Who what?
3:12 “the pink mist”
Basic training 1991
Fort Lenoradwood, Missouri
US Army
Yes live rounds were used, BUT they were high up.
Might have been all tracers but either way….