Star Wars Legends: Thrawn (Complete)

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  • A brief history of Thrawn, from his origins on Csilla to his service under the Emperor and the wars that followed. Based on the Star Wars Legends Expanded Universe, created by George Lucas and Lucasfilm.
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  • @CivilizationEx
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    • @dragonballtalk8527
      @dragonballtalk8527 6 лет назад +1

      I watch with speed slowed cause u tawk very quik.are u on a form of speed if so i hope not

    • @james855
      @james855 4 года назад +1

      Do one for ysanne Isard

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 года назад +1

      beautiful pronunciation!

  • @mrknowie
    @mrknowie 5 лет назад +248

    A quote on the battle mentioned at 2:29:
    "On one side were handpicked units of Palpatine's own private army, equipped with fifteen top-line combat ships. On the other side were Commander Mitth'raw'nuruodo of the Chiss Expansionary Defense and perhaps twelve small and insignificant border patrol ships."
    "How badly did Thrawn slaughter them?"
    "Utterly."
    ―Voss Parck and Mara Jade

    • @user-uw5kd2yt8k
      @user-uw5kd2yt8k 4 года назад +1

      Ha

    • @thekriegsman6233
      @thekriegsman6233 3 года назад +1

      source?

    • @mrknowie
      @mrknowie 3 года назад +9

      @@thekriegsman6233 Visions of the Future, by Timothy Zahn (don't know the page number). Second in a duology that hints at some of Thrawn's backstory. The events described take place in the book Outbound Flight (also Zahn).

    • @thekriegsman6233
      @thekriegsman6233 3 года назад +2

      Thank you so much

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 8 месяцев назад

      It speaks to thrawns tactical genius. Chiss are built different I guess

  • @AT-yg4nk
    @AT-yg4nk 4 года назад +655

    Thrawn is the biggest missed opportunity of any villain to NOT make on the “big screen,” of any movie franchise. Period! He is easily one of the best Characters in Star Wars, and is the only villain who could be more intimidating than Vader himself or any Sith for that matter! Long live Thrawn!

    • @709mash
      @709mash 4 года назад +28

      They could really lean on some of his more grey moral compass. (ya, his "evil", but he has SOME sympathetic qualities, which is more that I can say for pretty much any other imperial officer.)

    • @aydintariq
      @aydintariq 3 года назад +27

      @@709mash All he wanted to do was to join the most stable Government in the galaxy to stop the Vong Invasion. He was not evil, just trying to stop the Vong.

    • @PrimeUzi
      @PrimeUzi 3 года назад +11

      @@aydintariq watch season 2 episode 5 of mando 😉

    • @miklosszabo4551
      @miklosszabo4551 3 года назад +9

      Thrawn and Kreia from KOTOR2. Both incredibly well written, interesting, smart puppet masters with grey morality. Would love to see that on the big screen.

    • @aydintariq
      @aydintariq 3 года назад +5

      @@PrimeUzi Holy freaking crap. I just did!

  • @Zack-ss3ct
    @Zack-ss3ct 6 лет назад +36

    The Timothy Zahn timeline for Thrawn is a lot better in my opinion. His story is a whole lot easier to follow and make sense of.

  • @formerschoolguy1496
    @formerschoolguy1496 6 лет назад +11

    Legends Timeline was definitely more creative and kept the story going on and had stronger stories when it comes to comics, novels and videogames. I think canon managed to almost catch up on the level of how good it's Tv show Star Wars Rebels is.

  • @chrismodlin6262
    @chrismodlin6262 6 лет назад +16

    "20,000 clones to deal a crippling blow"
    love these numbers haha. Coruscant has over a quadrillion people. The empire had over a billion storm troopers. Hell, I'm pretty sure the Alabama state guard has over 20,000 soldiers.

    • @finnalsop7111
      @finnalsop7111 6 лет назад +11

      Chris Modlin 20 thousand spartii yanks capable of putting out 1 clone in 20 days so after 20 days they will have 20 thousand. After only one year they will have over 360 thousand clones. It took the kaminoans over a decade to create 200 thousand

    • @egzabiheryemsgen4982
      @egzabiheryemsgen4982 3 года назад

      @@finnalsop7111 no there were several billion clones. A unit, is 50,000 clones approx, and there were 200,000 units.

    • @finnalsop7111
      @finnalsop7111 3 года назад

      @@egzabiheryemsgen4982 This was Legends, not Canon.

    • @egzabiheryemsgen4982
      @egzabiheryemsgen4982 3 года назад +1

      Yes but it would stand to reason there are several billion. Do you seriously think they actually won the war with 200000 clones against hundreds of billions of droids

    • @hitthetarget982
      @hitthetarget982 4 месяца назад

      @@egzabiheryemsgen4982this is why the militia model was used by republic tacticians for the first half of the war.

  • @fizzy4877
    @fizzy4877 2 года назад +2

    U should make one on the yuuzhan vong war

  • @abaronofchivalry5176
    @abaronofchivalry5176 3 года назад +1

    Rip Grand Admiral Thrawn.

  • @squashedeyeball
    @squashedeyeball 6 лет назад

    Awesome work as always man. I was wondering though: Will you make Dune lore videos in the future?

  • @fabi3790
    @fabi3790 3 года назад +1

    If the empire worked more like thrawn did there would be no rebellion. Or a small one
    And i don't mean his intelligence but just rule with respect and not fear
    An iron fist is ok, especially at the beginning after the war
    But than. Treat them kindly. Respect the non humans etc
    There would be rebels, normal but far less would join because they are happy
    In my opinion

  • @xyonentertainmentproductio4909
    @xyonentertainmentproductio4909 6 лет назад +2

    RIP Thrawn

  • @terastarship2
    @terastarship2 5 лет назад

    Citation is right about the galaxy wars history.

  • @vitmartobby5644
    @vitmartobby5644 3 года назад

    Thrawn is a true hero, not some terrorists

  • @Maczi
    @Maczi 6 лет назад +1

    Damn the noghri are not saved by thr empire but destroyed by the first hand and Vader did helped them to restore the planet coz they poisoned the terrain

  • @aedwardsss
    @aedwardsss 2 года назад

    Thrawn is supposed to be terrifying. I hope they double down on that. It would be a shame if we got another “good Nazi” character like some people seem to want.

  • @samtheweebo
    @samtheweebo 6 лет назад

    Hope the tie fighter cannon is in here. He was created for that game I think :D

    • @DarthCindros
      @DarthCindros 6 лет назад +1

      He was in the TIE Fighter game, but he isn't originally from it. Rather he is originally from the aptly named Thrawn Trilogy, released 3 years after the trilogy in 1994.

    • @samtheweebo
      @samtheweebo 6 лет назад

      Looks like you are right tie fighter was in 1994 and Heir to the Empire was 1991

  • @superhighgaming5258
    @superhighgaming5258 6 лет назад

    What book is that quote from lenang oplai is from or the source material please

  • @jakeharkunc5792
    @jakeharkunc5792 4 года назад +1

    Should’ve been the new trilogy

  • @trim2cool793
    @trim2cool793 5 лет назад +3

    All of thrawns work failed due to a child with little experience at all defeated a sith lord who killed the best jedi who ever lived. People also claim like got in vaders mind but someone who slaughters millions of children across his life cant be swayed back on a 2 second speech.

  • @jortvanstrien3078
    @jortvanstrien3078 5 лет назад

    Make a video about the Yuuzhan Vong

  • @Johnsmosby33
    @Johnsmosby33 11 месяцев назад

    Thras and Thrawn were more like chosen brothers. Not related directly. Thras was made Mitth at birth. Thrawn was a merit adoptive.

  • @michaelkartmann3468
    @michaelkartmann3468 5 лет назад

    does anyone know what Backround-music is played here?

  • @soareverix
    @soareverix 6 лет назад +1

    #ThrawnDidNothingWrong

  • @shadowwolf8496
    @shadowwolf8496 Год назад

    I hate the way thrawn dies. It was such an anticlimactic way to go out

    • @trysiema6488
      @trysiema6488 Год назад +1

      He's not dead. He's coming back in the ahsoka series lol. So is Ezra

    • @AlterEgo756
      @AlterEgo756 Год назад +1

      @@trysiema6488 He's talking about the original Thrawn as he was originally written from the Expanded Universe, not that DIsney crap.

  • @msutter117
    @msutter117 5 лет назад +229

    I’d side with Thrawn if I was in Star Wars Legends just because he’s right on the best way to beat the Yu Zong Vong. And he’s respectful unlike many officers

    • @vampuricknight1
      @vampuricknight1 5 лет назад +18

      Agreed, the greater good mentality is hard to combat when the only other players would kill you for failure or expect you to die for the cause.
      Thrawn was the only side that wanted to maintain the maximum amount of life.

    • @msutter117
      @msutter117 5 лет назад +12

      vampuricknight1 yeah he’s the only imperial besides Palleon that I agree are the best leaders for the empire. And war isn’t black and white. It’s about winning while preserving as much life as possible, one reason I think super weapons are a waste of resources.

    • @vampuricknight1
      @vampuricknight1 5 лет назад +8

      @@msutter117 even in the new canon palpatine's former flunkies at the end of return of the jedi are like... Why did we let him build a costly super weapon in the first place.... but even worse how could we bankrupt the galaxy a 2nd time to build a 2nd one!
      They also remarked something like each death star equaled something like 1,000 star destroyers and dreadnaughts in materials alone. With that number of ships they could have sent an imperial force to ever single system and wiped out the rebels through sheer numbers (literally being everywhere at once)... but instead palpatine had to have his giant death laser... because.... reasons.

    • @msutter117
      @msutter117 5 лет назад +6

      vampuricknight1 In both Legends and Canon Thrawn is far better at leading then the emperor. Honestly force projection is stronger then fear. More ships cover more territory and even better the empire is less likely to fall apart. The super star destroyers make more sense to me

    • @butterbean8881
      @butterbean8881 4 года назад +6

      Matthew Sutter Nah, Palpatine is. He orchestrated the CW personally, influencing the separatist tactics and he is a cunning politician. He not only knew military tactics but also the social and monetary side of the galaxy, which Thrawn didn’t. Thrawn was a military genius. Thrawn wanted to build stealth ships but Sidious ordered superweapons to be built which was the correct calls since the Vong had planet destroying capabilities too and the superweapons could be used as a fear tactic to supress any rebellion which would arrise from the Vong/Rebels conflict. Palpatine foresaw everything except Vader and would’ve won if it wasn’t for that.

  • @morningnapalm9963
    @morningnapalm9963 5 лет назад +260

    Thrawn: the Empire's undefeated chess champion

    • @spencersholden
      @spencersholden 3 года назад +22

      Only defeated when a white pawn switched sides.

    • @hayley7856
      @hayley7856 3 года назад +2

      ##šthe

    • @drunknklr3071
      @drunknklr3071 3 года назад +1

      Knife in the chest states otherwise

    • @johnecoapollo7
      @johnecoapollo7 3 года назад +1

      Murdered by a plot dagger just before the largest triumph of his career

    • @MusicCreations237
      @MusicCreations237 3 года назад +3

      More like the Empires undefeated chiss champion. Eh? Eh? I’ll leave now

  • @jimothyasteward1829
    @jimothyasteward1829 5 лет назад +189

    Thrawn is the most interesting character in the whole Star Wars universe

    • @miklosszabo4551
      @miklosszabo4551 3 года назад +8

      Kreia wants to have a word with you

    • @HamanKarn567
      @HamanKarn567 3 года назад +1

      You mean that old bitter hypocritical bitch? Lol

  • @Rebellion90s
    @Rebellion90s 6 лет назад +804

    Some sources say that Thrawn is a villain but I disagree. Thrawn is more like a hero who served the wrong side. Thrawn is nothing like a villain because he is kind, reasonable, honorable, and be respectful toward everyone even his enemies, I can't call this kind of personality a villain. He is a good guy antagonist.

    • @boyar1978
      @boyar1978 6 лет назад +66

      the jedi and the republic were the true villains. The empire brought freedom, capitalism, order, and security to their people.What did the republic offer. Corruption, slavery, socialism, and chaos. The Jedis were as bad if not worse then the Sith. The Jedi would hunt down Sith and kill them just lke the sith would. I have to state that I would support the Empire as it would be a society I would prefer to reside in. I believe order is more important than freedom as society cannot function without structure and guidance.

    • @boyar1978
      @boyar1978 6 лет назад +37

      what has the rebellion brought? they commit acts of terrorism against a government that has brought order, peace, and prosperity to the galaxy. The Empire did not bother a race unless they tried to resist the Empire. I like the empire because it represents what I desire in a government. There should be one person with absolute control of the government. The government should favour Slavic, Latin, Asian, Turkic, Iranian and Arabic People. and should act Machiavellian. I must admit that I am a Fascist and this is why I am attracted to the Empire.

    • @boyar1978
      @boyar1978 6 лет назад +8

      I liked Stalin and dreamed of living during his time and my only disagreement with Hitler was when he attacked the Soviet Union. I am willing to live without freedom of speech and human rights as long as my state provides law and order and punishes those who break the law. I dislike disorder and inefficiency.

    • @boyar1978
      @boyar1978 6 лет назад +7

      I also do not like Democracy as it is inefficient. The common person should not be choosing their leadership as they are not educated enough to make decisions having to do with governance. if you allow peasants to govern you end up like the USA which is a big mistake that now threatens the entire world.

    • @JamesWillmus
      @JamesWillmus 6 лет назад +66

      What you believe in is called totalitarianism. A totalitarian regime is made up of one arrogant person surrounded by a bureaucracy of cowards. They rule out of fear and make the population dependent on the government for security and necessities like food and water. Those who think and act differently or defiantly are swiftly neutralized. But a totalitarian regime will never have a place in my homeland, because I believe that there should never be any one person who has absolute power over anyone else. That belief is at the heart of the American identity. If you allow peasants to govern you end up like the USA, a country that beat the world's most powerful military in a revolution which still shakes the world today. This country has survived a civil war, fought in many foreign wars over the last two centuries, has protected allies and made enemies tremble with fear. America has managed to build a society out of people from all over the Earth, from all nations, from all races. And while not all are treated equally here, most are better off living in America rather than in the lands of their ancestors. America is respected and well regarded by the majority of people around the world precisely because of the 'peasants' who shaped this nation. If the only weakness of America is the people who live in it, then it's all the proof I need of how strong a democracy can be and how much faith I can put in humanity.

  • @pumpkinsdontcry
    @pumpkinsdontcry 4 года назад +254

    In star wars you either work for the government or you're a smuggler.

    • @crook7493
      @crook7493 4 года назад +9

      or a normal citizen lol

    • @angelkitsune4856
      @angelkitsune4856 4 года назад

      so would that mean the he was born 19 BBY ?

    • @crook7493
      @crook7493 4 года назад

      angel kitsune what?

    • @tabulldog2743
      @tabulldog2743 4 года назад +2

      Kind of a limited worldbuilding, right? XD

    • @spektr4l606
      @spektr4l606 4 года назад +3

      I like your comment because it doesn’t cause an argument about communism and capitalism

  • @Name-nw9uj
    @Name-nw9uj Год назад +9

    And thus, at that ending, we arrive at the true reason why Disney destroyed legends. Because the are *utterly terrified* of ideas like "morally gray antagonists." In the Disney world it must be black and white. The protagonist must be good and the antagonist must be bad. They only make movies that can be comprehended by everyone, including children.

  • @LarryPhischman
    @LarryPhischman 6 лет назад +1171

    The Legends timeline is so much better than the new cannon.

    • @awakenow7147
      @awakenow7147 6 лет назад +140

      Its more interesting than he new canon. Lots of creativity and different ideas. But you gotta admit, its pretty convoluted and it does tend to contradict itself sometimes.

    • @NinjaTyler
      @NinjaTyler 6 лет назад +54

      Awake Now at some points but the new canon is a mess the comics and books are completely thrown away for the movies as seen with 8

    • @girlyknight8817
      @girlyknight8817 6 лет назад +34

      An with wrong with being convoluted? Theirs lots of crazy stuff in other sci-fi like star trek and war hammer 40k

    • @awakenow7147
      @awakenow7147 6 лет назад +40

      Girly Knight I prefer stories that have a more grounded continuity. Also, George Lucas had an original philosophy for Star Wars. I'm all for expansion, but I feel that the EU got way off track sometimes. Disney seems to be having a similar problem right now. Personally, I think expansion of a universe should be allowed, but there should always be something linking it back to the main philosophies of the original intent.
      I liked Revan, Bane, the history of the Je'daii , the Republic comics, Thrawn trilogy etc. But Palpatine clone? The Yuuzahn Vong? An invading alien race that is almost immune to the Force? Its just way way off-base in my opinion. I understand that a lot of people loved that kind of stuff, but it simply did not feel like Star Wars to me.

    • @rbrick3685
      @rbrick3685 6 лет назад +26

      I agree. The old EU had some great stories, but a lot of stories were glorified fan fiction. Like the Glove of Vader or I, Jedi. It felt like an entirely different genre and had zero Star Wars.

  • @John.S92
    @John.S92 6 лет назад +249

    Quite interesting that in the Expanded Universe, the 'New Republic' is basically responsible for how successful the yuuzhan vong was in defeating so much of the SW galaxy.

    • @Charlie94781
      @Charlie94781 3 года назад +11

      ​@hanikrummi hundursvin the rebels basically abandoned people to a Yuuzhan Vong colonoscopy and Borsk Fey’lya just gave them some KY jelly to make the coral spikes less painful

  • @williamsledge3151
    @williamsledge3151 6 лет назад +421

    Who else thinks Thrawn is way better in ledgends than in cannon
    Probally about 100% of the people watching this.

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 5 лет назад +20

      Only thing in cannon is a cannonball. However, yes, canon nerfed thrawn considerably.

    • @mikekelley2877
      @mikekelley2877 5 лет назад +4

      William Sledge I do...

    • @tilltronje1623
      @tilltronje1623 5 лет назад +27

      The canon novels do him justice in my opinion. He only sucks in Rebels

    • @thenobletaco4232
      @thenobletaco4232 5 лет назад +6

      There is nothing in cannon that is better, or even on the same level, as legends, in my opinion.

    • @disneyboy3030
      @disneyboy3030 5 лет назад +9

      A Comic series actually retored his backstory and he even had a novel and Rebels also stayed close to who he was.

  • @andrewvisser8210
    @andrewvisser8210 6 лет назад +209

    Thrawns a badass, both in Legends and Rebels. Makes me glad I have the full Trawn book trilogy.

    • @fnfn9199
      @fnfn9199 4 года назад +3

      Isnt most of those stories no longer canon

    • @NSFWTHICC
      @NSFWTHICC 4 года назад +17

      Fernando Neto Fuck canon

    • @RyuSpike
      @RyuSpike 4 года назад +9

      @@fnfn9199 We are all a small part of a vast multiverse. Both are canon from a certain point of view.

    • @pig1114
      @pig1114 3 года назад +4

      Nah, rebels did horribly. Love the new books though.

    • @dadian803
      @dadian803 3 года назад +3

      @Logan Botill
      It's alright but the Thrawn trilogy changed SW by having the middle ground instead big being always good or bad.

  • @grandadmiralthrawn5422
    @grandadmiralthrawn5422 6 лет назад +145

    I subbed!

  • @parastroika2393
    @parastroika2393 6 лет назад +301

    Palpatine was right.

    • @xyonentertainmentproductio4909
      @xyonentertainmentproductio4909 6 лет назад +7

      Yes

    • @nicewater894
      @nicewater894 6 лет назад +1

      It don't matter now does it😂

    • @steelgreyed
      @steelgreyed 6 лет назад +9

      There is a policy that has real world association. Projection of fear is necessary to bring certain factions to heel, who better to prepare you for the Hell of a Galactic Invasion than Lucifer himself and his minions? Some side effects of making deals with devils may apply.

    • @steelgreyed
      @steelgreyed 6 лет назад +3

      Otherwise the carebear stare approach, also known as the Minmay Attack has its uses. Just tactically unreliable.

    • @rosie8059
      @rosie8059 5 лет назад +9

      Literally no. The Jedi Order was corrupt, yes, but Palpatine was still an incredibly evil Sith Lord who ruled by fear and subjugation, and approved mass slavery.

  • @mattfong2231
    @mattfong2231 4 года назад +25

    Thrown is the Empire's Erwin Rommel

  • @the1grove
    @the1grove 6 лет назад +137

    I wish Thrawn would have won and restored the Empire..

    • @Bluesit32
      @Bluesit32 5 лет назад +59

      A Sithless Empire might have been one worth living in.

    • @coolstuff1959
      @coolstuff1959 4 года назад +8

      Like the imperial remmnant minus corrupt.moffs thrawn believes in wnat he sid

    • @drlca6601
      @drlca6601 4 года назад +9

      Old legends Imperial Remnant and eventually Fel Empire were great concepts. Imperial Remnant was used in Mandolorian to great effect. The Fel Empire wasn't a totalitarian autocracy but rather a benevolent monarchy, which treated its subjects with respect, even possessing institutionalized force users who protected the emperor and upheld the values of the empire. I would've loved a reformed Empire and New Republic hunting a previously unseen common foe (a la True Sith in KOTOR II) and coming together to defeat them despite great cultural differences, with a particular focus on Jedi Knight game series and Luke's SUCCESSFUL Jedi Praxeum. Making the Empire lawful neutral would be an interesting step for the SW universe, but as we all know they chose shallow storytelling and plastic characters, trashing established themes and removing any nuance that survived the SE and prequels. I love EU and prequel days btw, but prequels are objectively bad movies, but great storyline. I think George Lucas is a bonafide genius and a true visionary. I could go on for days about how SW 1977-2012 was just the bombdiggity though I lost interest around 2006. I miss the old galactic database if anyone remembers that.

    • @kestrel2045
      @kestrel2045 4 года назад +8

      Empire Forever! But yeah with Thrawn at it's head, this Empire would make great progress, and probably do away with those stupid anti-alien acts or whatever, those were stupid to begin with.

    • @christiancrusader9374
      @christiancrusader9374 4 года назад +5

      You do remember the empire was the bad guys right?

  • @dudexyzu9415
    @dudexyzu9415 5 лет назад +52

    Darth Sidious: only one being has escaped death.
    *shows clone wars season 7*

    • @PhantomRedKnight
      @PhantomRedKnight 4 года назад +1

      Vitiate, the Immortal Sith Emperor.

    • @butterbean8881
      @butterbean8881 4 года назад +2

      PhantomRedKnight Vitiate ended up dying... There’s a difference between immortality and invincibility. His original clone body got destroyed. Same with Nihilus as his power is held in the mask which is buried and lost.

  • @sickofwashington
    @sickofwashington 6 лет назад +58

    Why can I only like this once?

  • @Bobrob1597
    @Bobrob1597 4 года назад +32

    I feel Legends Thrawn is older than our current Thrawn.

    • @goodmind4940
      @goodmind4940 4 года назад +1

      doubt it

    • @Miguel11190
      @Miguel11190 3 года назад +1

      @@goodmind4940 Legends Thrawn died about 9 years after 1 ABY, whereas the canon version disappeared in 1 BBY. So, yes, he was older.

    • @goodmind4940
      @goodmind4940 3 года назад +1

      @@Miguel11190 canon Thrawn still experienced some variation of Outbound Flight, they should be same age

    • @mikeor-
      @mikeor- 2 года назад

      @@Miguel11190 Actually, Canon Thrawn disappeared in 0 BBY.

    • @PhantomRedKnight
      @PhantomRedKnight Месяц назад

      Legends Thrawn is smarter than Canon Thrawn.

  • @therogueadmiral
    @therogueadmiral 6 лет назад +34

    This is so cool... I was surprised at how much of this I didn't know yet.

  • @tedfrek5416
    @tedfrek5416 4 года назад +7

    Very stupid that disney didnt just re-cast and go with this for the sequels, would have been unreal

  • @NANA-lt6hd
    @NANA-lt6hd 4 года назад +3

    EU Thrawn: Has the balls to tell Palpatine he is going to fuck up and proves to be right. Comes back from the Unknown Regions and gives the New Republic a serios challenge. And only loses by the sheer luck that one of his alien bodyguards decided to betray him in favor of the daughter of Vader, Leia. Canon Thrawn: No remarkable achievements exept getting flown away by Space Wales. Remind me again how EU was worse than the curent canon? LOL

  • @savagepanda8458
    @savagepanda8458 3 года назад +21

    1:14 Actually, the earliest known Chiss to have human contact was named Cyndra. She appears in the Bane Trilogy and was part of the Anti-Republic Liberation Front.

    • @winngedhussarmalaka7685
      @winngedhussarmalaka7685 2 года назад +1

      The chiss used to live in lesser space even before that. The sith wars and others have made it hard to stay in lesser space without loosing too many lives so they moved back to where we see Chiss space. It could be that the ruins on Batu are acient Chiss ruins in the likes of the black spire

  • @djtrunksta
    @djtrunksta Год назад +5

    Still a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better story for thrawn than the bastardized disney/filoni version.

  • @martinp3166
    @martinp3166 6 лет назад +14

    Wish we could get Thrawn movies, instead of Mary Sues and angsty force sensitive children in the Plot Wholes Galore new Canon

  • @sirpaul7000
    @sirpaul7000 Год назад +3

    They still wasting him in 2023

  • @sbthematrix5007
    @sbthematrix5007 4 года назад +20

    Villain or anti hero thrawn is easily the most untapped asset in the actual star wars canon. I love what rebels did to further his legacy and its been stated that he is still alive..long live thrawn!

  • @figjam9530
    @figjam9530 2 года назад +8

    Thrawn is like the Sherlock Holmes of the Star Wars universe. he meets you once and he already knows everything about you. i'm convinced Holmes was an inspiration for the character.

    • @PhantomRedKnight
      @PhantomRedKnight Месяц назад

      Nope. He takes one look at your artwork and he already knows everything about you.

  • @lj7420
    @lj7420 6 лет назад +27

    *Let's not forget that Palpatine's/Sideous' own transference continued to possess the body of clones & others.*

  • @zBMatt
    @zBMatt Год назад +2

    Lore keeps pointing to the idea that the Jedi are what led to the galaxies doom every single time.

  • @snappycenter7863
    @snappycenter7863 5 лет назад +8

    How could Palpatine know the Vong were coming if they were outside the galaxy and they're immune to being directly acted on by the force?

    • @vampuricknight1
      @vampuricknight1 5 лет назад +6

      The specifics are unknown, but the primary theory is that Palpatine learned of their existence through a myriad of spies and information brokers that stretched from coruscant to the outer edges of the galaxy. Most of the ground work was actually done by the former sith masters following Darth Bane's rule of two leading to what ended up being a 1,000 year plan to conquer the republic and the jedi.
      Hell, the sith would probably expect the possibility of an outside force naturally, given its kind of a trope of their order to build and recruit from the outer edges of the galaxy which the republic tends to forget even exists, and then stomp their way to the republic center with the built up forces.

  • @etherealmako
    @etherealmako 6 лет назад +15

    4:31
    The starfighter at the top is a Mandalorian starfighter known as a Kom'rk-class fighter/transport. I wonder if Vagaari actually had Mandalorian Kom'rks or if they stole it, or if its just for visual aid.

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  6 лет назад +1

      I believe I originally used it in a Mandalore video, but I changed the colors and some lines and now use it just as a general space ship, for a visual aid like you said.

  • @commanderdanielcousland9981
    @commanderdanielcousland9981 6 лет назад +18

    The greatest character within the Star Wars series.

  • @mse5842
    @mse5842 6 лет назад +14

    Convenient,I just read the Thrawn Trilogy

  • @CivilizationEx
    @CivilizationEx  6 лет назад +1

    Individual Parts:
    Thrawn Part 1: ruclips.net/video/IoK_gx-ZQ7c/видео.html
    Thrawn Part 2: ruclips.net/video/byankp06pY4/видео.html
    Thrawn Part 3: ruclips.net/video/ayxk2nYiUa4/видео.html
    Thrawn Part 4: ruclips.net/video/fqW56-eNqeI/видео.html

  • @joeclaridy
    @joeclaridy 4 года назад +12

    I don't think Palpatine was necessarily right with respects to the Vong threat. The Republic already had great military minds like Thrawn who could've repelled the invasion force. I think the creation of the empire to create a military force was unnecessary due to the fact that it's creation spawned the rebellion and decades of back and forth wars losing valuable resources and manpower. Palpatine prioritized his own power over the security of the galaxy by plunging it in a perpetual state of war for many decades resulting in a weaker galaxy. Had he informed the Senate of the extragalactic threat they would've had 3 decades to formulate a solution. Unfortunately for the galaxy far far away that didn't happen.

  • @abgarsargsyan9698
    @abgarsargsyan9698 6 лет назад +53

    Thank you so much for putting this effort to the video I am a THRAWN fan! I really do appreciate your work now please make the new version of THRAWN or at least comper the two

    • @xyonentertainmentproductio4909
      @xyonentertainmentproductio4909 6 лет назад

      Rip Thrawn

    • @abgarsargsyan9698
      @abgarsargsyan9698 6 лет назад +2

      Dante and halofan perhaps he died on Expanded Universe but in Cannon is still alive!!!!!!!! It's too soon to say that. Let's hope that it will remain that way

    • @xyonentertainmentproductio4909
      @xyonentertainmentproductio4909 6 лет назад +1

      Abgar Sargsyan I hope he don't die

    • @abgarsargsyan9698
      @abgarsargsyan9698 6 лет назад +2

      Dante and halofan hope is weakness. We take action we need to demand them to not to do such a thing but such a powerful characters usually die because it's impossible to maintain their popularity.

    • @stormcommando1640
      @stormcommando1640 6 лет назад +5

      Personally I think the new Thrawn could never defeat the original.

  • @echosdatacore2056
    @echosdatacore2056 3 года назад +6

    Thrawn is my favorite character in Star Wars. A true dedicated warrior and strategist. He is a master of warfare, using political manipulation. He doesn't have Force powers, but commands fleets and armies. He's a skilled scientist, and excellent engineer.

  • @gavinduke2107
    @gavinduke2107 6 лет назад +42

    Legends>>>>>>>>>>>>Disnon. Always. Rogue One is the only Disnon movie I accept as canon just because of the Deathtroopers.

    • @wraith2939
      @wraith2939 6 лет назад +5

      Gavin Duke even the death troopers are not really well used
      But rogue one was good

  • @holschermarc
    @holschermarc 5 лет назад +15

    I read the Thrawn-Trilogy from Timothy Zahn but this here told me still so many stuff i didnt new. And with that information i have to say: Maybe Palpatine was really right. Oh man this opens my mind to thoughts i never could imagine befor. Thx man, and i think i will have to search for a few certain books soon. U really ignitet my passion for the extended Univers again.

  • @DanielGonzalez-dr7so
    @DanielGonzalez-dr7so 6 лет назад +82

    I'm triggered that jakku and takodana are on this map

    • @rbrick3685
      @rbrick3685 6 лет назад +12

      Then go read The Glove of Vader and cry to someone who cares lmao

    • @PugnaciousProductions
      @PugnaciousProductions 5 лет назад +8

      Daniel Gonzalez Idiotic.. Takodana and Jakku are both canon, legends, and old canon.

    • @RenzoM2811
      @RenzoM2811 5 лет назад +4

      @@PugnaciousProductions No. They are only canon.

    • @brycelinnarz9387
      @brycelinnarz9387 5 лет назад +2

      RenzoM Jakku is legends and canon

  • @jayeff7868
    @jayeff7868 6 лет назад +9

    I see you’ve invested in higher end recording equipment. Thanks for the cool vids!!

  • @Fenris77
    @Fenris77 6 лет назад +19

    Great vid.
    Your voice is good for telling an epic story.

  • @mosleyman3136
    @mosleyman3136 6 лет назад +21

    Come for Thrawn, Stay for CivilizationEx

  • @troypol343
    @troypol343 5 лет назад +2

    I hate Disney. Forget Legends I will call it what it has been for years and years: The EU (Expanded Universe). Screw Disney, I have been going back to the EU and refuse to purchase any rebranded DIsney Legends merchandise. I will only buy the original printings before Disney's acquisition and rebranding of the EU. DIsney and Disney Star Wars has proved to NOT be Star Wars. Let DIsney FAIL! They have disrespected Star Wars and its fans.

  • @mikeor-
    @mikeor- 4 года назад +4

    Legends?! Thrawn is CANON, although the part about Mara Jade is Legends.

    • @butterbean8881
      @butterbean8881 4 года назад +1

      Theawn is canon but his background story and the outsider/Yuzhan Vong storyline is legends.

  • @thegunslinger8806
    @thegunslinger8806 4 года назад +4

    👏PALPATINE👏DID👏NOTHING👏WRONG👏
    YO DAMN RIGHT HE WAS MUH EMPEROR and so was thrawn.

    • @KaziKami
      @KaziKami 3 года назад

      Killed an entire planet but i guess hes the good guy now..

  • @GrandMoffOfMars
    @GrandMoffOfMars Год назад +1

    is there a full list of books where all of this this comes from?
    I thought I had read all the thrawn books but there are gaps I'm missing

  • @XfStef
    @XfStef 5 лет назад +4

    #PalpatineDidNothingWrong

  • @waltermartinez9110
    @waltermartinez9110 2 года назад +1

    Why would thrawn poison Noghri homeworld to keep them on his side??? There is no point on doing it since Noghri already presented their loyalty to him.

  • @whackamarkwinter5395
    @whackamarkwinter5395 5 лет назад +4

    Oh man you should totally do a dark empire and yuuzhan Vong episode

  • @UnfaithfulServant97
    @UnfaithfulServant97 6 лет назад +61

    It's such a shame that Thrawn was re-introduced in that horrid Rebels show. He's been neutered by Disney Inc.

    • @OrDuneStudios
      @OrDuneStudios 6 лет назад +11

      A regular Plumbus same thrawn now as ever. Him in the new thrawn book by Zahn is amazing

    • @gavinduke2107
      @gavinduke2107 6 лет назад +24

      A regular Plumbus yeah. In the new canon (Disnon, as I call it) he is incompetent and cannot beat a graffiti artist, a teenager, a blind Jedi, a astromech droid, a pilot, and a Wookie wannabe. Legends Thrown is WAY better.

    • @JH24821
      @JH24821 6 лет назад +14

      @Gavin Duke My main issue with Thrawn in Disney (although I love his character) is that he seems the only Imperial who is competent. Yet he allows himself to be surrounded by incompetent, arrogant, self-serving Imperials who only bring him failure. Except for Yularen and Pellaeon, and they only have brief appearances, he's surrounded by idiots: Konstatine, Skerris, Pryce; they all fail him.

    • @williambacon9843
      @williambacon9843 6 лет назад +1

      Dave Filoni hates the EU and what's to remakint it in is oun imege.
      Most Coley fan's thakin putting Thrawn in Rebels was a good thing, but it is one of the most inseting things they have done, by taken sonmthing form the EU and putting it into they croshin, and chanes to sout they own agend.

    • @Comrade2261
      @Comrade2261 6 лет назад +2

      Ya, The Expanded Universe (not that "legends" trash label disney is trying to carve into people's minds) is leagues better than anything disney has put out with Star Wars.

  • @eurolagnia
    @eurolagnia Год назад +1

    The whole first minute of the video is wrong, sadly. I appreciate your effort but for some reason there's a lot of misinformation about Thrawn and his "brother" Thrass. They were born of separate families, Thrawn being Kivu at birth and then rematching to the Mith in 39 BBY. At that time, Thrass -- who was a "cousin" of the Mith at birth (a rank far higher than Thrawn could ever achieve) was tasked with inducting Thrawn into the new family. They knew each other for a short time before Thrass's death. During a mission with the Stybla family, Thrass told a rival family member that Thrawn was his "brother" to avoid losing their pirate's bounty to a rival family. This implied that Thrawn was far higher in the Mith hierarchy than he actually was. Beyond that moment, there was no blood relationship, no knowledge of each other until their 20s, and it was a short-lived relationship given Thrass's early passing.
    They did become best friends in the short time they knew each other. But they weren't "brothers". They did not come up together. Thrass was never a "merit adoptive", he was born a Mith cousin thanks to his father's sacrifice. Honestly, Thrass probably shouldn't even be mentioned in Thrawn's storyline.

  • @thrawnalfa4951
    @thrawnalfa4951 Год назад +1

    Thrawn was born as Kivu'raw'nuru on planet Rentor and was adopted as a child. Thrass was original born to Mitth family

  • @FreakyTeeth
    @FreakyTeeth 2 года назад +4

    Thrawn in canon: "The mysteries of the force are an enigma to me."
    Thrawn in legends: uses a trick the sith never used against the Jedi to make himself invulnerable to god-like force sensitives.
    Thrawn in legends would thrash Thrawn in canon.

  • @stefanoaguila2744
    @stefanoaguila2744 6 лет назад +3

    Disney should have used a proven successful story lines and asked legends writers to write this group of trilogies, they could have ruined it with a new trilogy but at least our heros would have stayed true.
    Remember once upon a time movies put books on the big screen not the other way around.
    Don't know how the SJW in Disney made Thrawn and the Emperors hand cannon, but Mara Jade is thrown out the window.....Seems like they are against Luke Skywalker character because Mara died....

    • @OrDuneStudios
      @OrDuneStudios 6 лет назад +1

      Stefano Aguila timothy zahn should have writen VII-IX

    • @stefanoaguila2744
      @stefanoaguila2744 6 лет назад

      TheSunkenCommander
      my thoughts exactly

  • @fadelsukoco3092
    @fadelsukoco3092 6 лет назад +15

    Palpatine Was evil, no doubt about it, and he made a lot of avoidable mistakes, but O'pali was 100% true when he surmised that Palpatine's Empire would have been able to fend off the Yuuzhan Vong with far less losses and casualties than the New Republic. With Thrawn at the head and all of Palpatine's projects, the Imperials would have conducted total war against the Yuuzhan Vong, not letting them gain a massiveass foothold in the galaxy or using inappropriate hit-and-run tactics like the New Republic did, which were geared towards the Empire and not the Vong. Plus, wasn't there a bioweapon, Alpha Red or something, that the New Republic developed that would specifically terminate the Vong but didn't use for "ethical" reasons? The Empire would have been as excited to use it as people nowadays will use their money for a ticket to the next major blockbuster. That way they can systematically annihilate their enemy with impunity while not having to worry about collateral damage, since it only affects the Yuuzhan Vong themselves. There would have been vastly-less casualties and loss of life in the Galaxy if the Empire had fought the Vong. Hell, the Vong sent their Ooglith shapeshifter agents to the Imperial Remnant to destabilize it as much as possible because they knew that the Imperials were still the biggest military threat to them.

  • @cloroxusthestainlessone4324
    @cloroxusthestainlessone4324 6 лет назад +5

    Only just found you and I just wanted to say good job and I love the detail

  • @ericfaith2810
    @ericfaith2810 4 года назад +4

    Amazing retelling of the Timothy Zahn trilogy! 🤗 Isnt this era Canon that occurred before the events of the current trilogy? Weren't the children of Han and Leia different in these stories or was Ben just another one of their kids?

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  4 года назад +6

      Thrawn was made canon but his story is a bit different. This version of the story is no longer canon.

    • @winngedhussarmalaka7685
      @winngedhussarmalaka7685 2 года назад

      They threw away a lot of thrawn like when he was with Paleaon we shall see what is the new cannon in the Ashoka series

    • @hitthetarget982
      @hitthetarget982 4 месяца назад

      @@winngedhussarmalaka7685oh that Ashoka series didn’t go too well

  • @topsecret1837
    @topsecret1837 4 года назад +5

    When Thrawn has enough political points to have the meme Admiral Ackbar arrested for treason, you know he’s O.G.

  • @GrizzlyTank
    @GrizzlyTank 3 года назад +2

    Thrawn is a great representation of a sociopath. He gravitates towards positions of power, he's cold and calculating, makes his decisions purely out of logic rather than emotions, and he's not 'evil' for the sake of evil like the emperor but he we do evil acts if they serve the greater good.

  • @danjordan1
    @danjordan1 6 лет назад +8

    Tres

  • @dontlookatthis
    @dontlookatthis 3 года назад +2

    Now Thrawn was grand admiral before luke joined rebellion and disappeared with ezra

  • @Nirano5
    @Nirano5 6 лет назад +9

    Will there be more Lore on the wheel of time?

  • @hitthetarget982
    @hitthetarget982 4 месяца назад +1

    Not even Thrawn could prevent the destruction of his character

  • @josephmartins8882
    @josephmartins8882 3 года назад +6

    Here after the newest episode of the Mandalorian for a refresher Thrawn. He’s finally coming into the mainstream canon!

  • @tsarfox3462
    @tsarfox3462 5 месяцев назад +1

    We were on the verge of greatness. We were *this close*.

  • @JoniukasVader
    @JoniukasVader 6 лет назад +11

    Deux

  • @dontlookatthis
    @dontlookatthis 3 года назад +3

    I'd love to see him fighting the far outsiders in canon

  • @Докторпарадокс
    @Докторпарадокс 2 года назад +1

    "Politically astute"
    Thrawn? Wow

  • @dylanh7600
    @dylanh7600 Год назад +1

    Please do one for mara jade

  • @tobluetoblack
    @tobluetoblack 3 года назад +1

    God, can you imagine if Thrawn was the "villain" of what should have been his trilogy? They would have had an Icon in an instant as he is with us Star Wars fans

  • @wulf1046
    @wulf1046 2 года назад +2

    Why didn't Thrawn just approach the New Republic about the far outsiders I would think at least had they known they could have agreed to a ceasefire temporarily to prepare

    • @dimas3829
      @dimas3829 Год назад

      as if their corrupt cleptocracy run by terorists and blackmailers would listen.

  • @MuMu124
    @MuMu124 4 года назад +2

    The trawn trilogy is fucking brilliant
    Im on the 1st book and its fantastic

  • @rourkebar1062
    @rourkebar1062 2 года назад +1

    Quote that pretty much sums up Disney after buying Star Wars
    “He who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
    -George Orwell 1984

  • @baronhdl5861
    @baronhdl5861 5 лет назад +3

    The coolest dude with the name I still struggle to say

  • @FanaddictsofFilm
    @FanaddictsofFilm 6 лет назад +1

    Subscribed and Upvoted. Nice. I love Thrawn.

  • @Sultan_Vader_VI
    @Sultan_Vader_VI 9 месяцев назад +2

    What song is this

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  9 месяцев назад +1

      It's called Last Dawn by Ross Bugden, ruclips.net/video/wWjgsepyE8I/видео.html&ab_channel=RossBugden