A first look at using ILS in the Airbus A310 in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Recording my experience of using the ILS, and landing the Airbus A310 in Microsoft Flight Simulator. There's lots to learn - I landed too slow (not used to the spool-up time of the engines), and the autopilot didn't capture, but instructive in all sorts off ways - in terms of turning off autopilot alarms, the perils of using pre-loaded states from the tablet, and more.
I think it's important to show that everybody has to learn these things - the next time I will take on board the lessons from this landing, and it will be much smoother.
Not looking forward to reading the flight manual though...
#msfs #a310 #ils #landing #learning #education 
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Hello Jonathan. The AP Disconnect (Red button) works correctly. One click to disconnect, second to clear warning. You shouldn't disconnect the AP from the FCU if you can help it. By the way, I'm new to your channel. Really enjoying your content.
Yep - everything about this aircraft is a learning curve. I've decided it's good to show people that I don't always get things right :) I see far too many channels where you see cuts in the videos, and everything looks perfect :)
@@jonbeckett Totally agree with you. Warts an all! after all, we learn from mistakes. Looking forward to more vids :)
Nice vid. Subscribed. 🙂
I had a few trial and error ... er ... 'learning' moments with this plane. It can be a helluva learning curve. So, just sharing a couple notes for what it's worth...
1) The A310 FCU button PUSH doesn't work the way your describe in the vid. Not like the newer buses SET/Manage... For A310, Pull is set/activate. Push does different things... Push on speed will allow you to PRE set speed bug without activating. Push on HDG will just set the heading bug to current heading without activating (useful in NAV mode or on runway ready for take off to preset HDG bug without turning it forever and ever on a busy approach), push on ALT toggles 100/1000 ...
2) ILS procedure - tune ILS + CRS, set MDA in APP page, then activate Final APP at least 5 to 10NM before LOC, then select NAV, and ensure PROFILE is set on (I usually set ALT for FAP point ALT as per ILS chart). It will capture LOC and then capture GS and should descend automatically if all set up correctly. Once captured and descending you can set Go-Around ALT as normal, plane will continue GS descent.
For std CAT2 only one AP needed. BUT ILS must be selected on both Captain and FO PFD. (If you fly the Fenix, you will know you get warnings if FD and LS is not set on both PFD's... Seems A310 does not have those warnings... )
Profile Speed on AT is similar to the modern bus, and plane *should* keep to greendot as you step down flaps as soon as Final APP is active. However I prefer setting speed myself, and prefer at fastest to be at 210kn 5NM before LOC. I step 210 - S15F0 / 180 - S15F15, then gear, then set Vapp (calculated on MCDU Approach page for you), and as it decels, remaining flaps to full. I like being fully configured and stable by 5 DME, unless chart specifies higher.
Thankyou for this - really useful information.
@@jonbeckett All good. Correction though: For ILS, LAND and PROFILE. Not NAV. my bad... 🤦♂😬
Hi Jonathan, thanks a lot for all your explanations, and for the time devoted to your videos. I learn a lot with you, greetings from Belgium ! 😎🤟
Glad you like them!
I might've missed you saying it, I'm fairly certain the AP didn't properly capture the G/S because you were in ALT.HLD Mode - the Plane needs to be in PROFILE mode for G/S capture
thank you for the tips menn
Thankyou!
No it doesn't.
I've done several ILS approaches in alt hold mode and it worked as expected.
@@tonythomas8360 explain
thanks for showing me how to clear the warning. When I disconnected it before knowing how to do it I had to land with the warning. (it was annoying)
Beep beep beep beep lol
Was you ever able to figure out why it wouldn’t decent on the glide or follow the loc properly?
how to taxi to/from the runway in this as the rudder pedals doesnt do it. i have no idea how to activate the tiler ?
You need to map your rudder pedals to the nosewheel steering axis :)
A lot of flight guidance systems won't capture the glideslope (engage G/S mode when armed) unless you're already tracking the localizer (LOC mode active). I believe it's also a carrier option on some aircraft. That's likely what happened in your case.
Also it's cool to see that the sim models buffeting when you are flying near stall speed
Yes - I should have flown in from further away to adequately describe how things behave. I'll return to it again soon and do a better demonstration. Half the problem is talking about something while travelling at 180 knots eats up a lot of approach distance :)
@Jonathan Beckett i personally loved this video. Answered so many questions i had. Like you said its a real learning curve.
Can i ask a question though. Is there any other way to get approach frequencies besides Navigraph? I use Simbrief but im a bit hesitant to spend so much money if there is a cheaper option that can work.
Thanks in advance. 👍
@@johnnymacf1google them they are all there 😊
I tried to land the a310 using ILS when I got close to the approach I turn ILS on got closer to the runway the diamond for the ILS never showed. I been trying multiple time landing this plan using ILS it never work. The auto pilot work fine if the flight plan is correct. When it get close to landing it never work.
Works fine for me. Did you program the ILS frequency and course on the centre console? Also, did you switch the display mode on the MCP?
so the course is just the magnetic heading of your arrival runway?
Yep - the big jets tend to use GPS en-route, then switch to landing systems for arrival - which uses radio, and course. The Airbuses get it pre-configured if you have programmed the flight-plan.
the colours in your sim look great, are you using reshade? nvidia freestyle?
No - it's stock MSFS, running in Ultra.
Did your aircraft get a terrible pitch upwards when you're coming into land? Everytime I go to land with this aircraft it seems to wanna flare itself like at 50 feet above ground. And to compensate I have to cut thrust way too early. How can I stop this if at all. This usually happens when I fly ILS approaches.
Never had it happen. It must be something you're doing (or not doing). In the 310 there is a setting on the front panel for the decision height - probably that. If you read the documentation that comes with it, you'll find the approach checklist which will cover it.
@@jonbeckett Do Xbox users have this manual? Or is it just for PC?
heyy question where can i see the ils frequncy i dont have any naphygraph
Install LittleNavMap. I have several videos on how it works.
@@jonbeckett alrighty thx man.
off topic but, were you able to get simbrief to work with the fms? thanks :)
Not tried it yet.
@@jonbeckett Ok, so why didn't the ILS kick in? The LAND button is the right button for GS and LOC. Maybe you were way too off to the side so it failed to align on the LOC?
I only landed once and it worked fine when clicked on LAND.
@@amirweinmann3445 He was at 3500, maybe a little high to capture. Normal intercept height is 3000 I believe.
Msfs crashes every time I load a flight with a310. All other new aircrafts work well. I even followed someone’s suggestion and downloaded from market place with same devastating results. Any suggestions!
Programme the flight by hand in the MCDU.
@@jonbeckett system crashes to windows before I can see the aircraft
@@ziadcookingatallah9919 Start the flight with no flight plan. Just choose an airport and spawn there. If it's crashing, it's something else causing it - remove any mods / addons you have.
How do i use the auto land button
You need ILS programmed in, and you need to be within limits on the glideslope, localiser, and speed for it to engage.
@@jonbeckett Thank you
It doesn't desend on its own on ils?
It does if you set the plane up properly. I'm still learning. When I've done a bit more with it, I'll record a better example.
jonathan - just before I watched this - I watched one the series just done by inibuilds and it was so full of info
ruclips.net/video/szIpEJBaq1Q/видео.html --- - 50+ mins of valuable training - and of a series
As he was coming in in on ILS he said -" I'l go for the approach - OH - its the Land button 1!"
Good info - thankyou.
What are your PC specs please? :)
I7, 3080, 16Gb RAM
I still can’t believe we get this aircraft for free
Wish i could get it Still telling me Market place unavailable
Check your online status in the settings of the simulator. The servers going down may have tripped that out.
You literally showed visual landing by following the ILS landing procedure but without using the ILS
Erm... ILS landing is using the instrumentation to guide you in. I think you're talking about approach mode, and auto-land. Yes - the plane can do it - but I'm not really interested in a plane landing itself... where's the fun in that ?
@@jonbeckett I don't like steering of A310. I couldn't control it after touchdown.
I'm trying to do an ILS approach into Edinburgh in the A310 but the frequency selector won't let me select the correct frequency (108.900). It only lets me select 108.100 which doesn't work. How are you supposed to tune a frequency ending in 900 if it only lets you increase/decrease by 5 each time?
I just tuned it in no problems - you must be doing something odd...
@@jonbeckett I think I see what I did wrong now... A moment of stupidity on my part