Agree. BUT.......the purpose of these debates is actually to hopefully tip someone to vote for your candidate who might be undecided. Or possibly change someone's mind from the opposition. Waltz looked weak...uncertain...stumbling and mostly frowning. Vance looked smooth. And since there was zero fact checking, it's only the optics folks really looked at....especially MAGA. The "Mr. Nice Guy" would have worked for a completely Dem audience, but in order to beat Trump, the Dems need to aggressively step up and loudly call things out. It was only that last moment that Waltz approached that level. This was a disappointment and I only hope that between now and when this is over, the Dems will step up and do what is needed to win this. Harris did a great job in her debate (IMO) .....we need MUCH more of that. Anyway, just my opinion. I watched some right wing wrap ups on this debate, and what was expressed is exactly what I'm saying here. They ignore content and only look for who looks "stronger".
The problem with Vance is his condescending, smugly disingenuous attitude. I did appreciate the fact that he didn't try to launch an attack on Senator Tim Walz like Trump tried to do with VP Harris, but his refusal to admit that Trump lost the 2020 election is proof thag he will stand behind a lie and that we, the American people, cannot trust him. I am STILLvoting BLUE down the ballot, and I hope everyone else does, too. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
As I wrote to someone else who thought vance was a better debater, it is extremely easy to be a "good" debater when someone like vance has little to no conscience, and they lie without guilt. I also said, lets just wait until the fact checkers do their thing, and then we will see how well, or not, each debater did.
Imagine the 2 dumbest people Tampon guy and the empty pant suit trying to negotiate with Iran and Russia HaHa if trump doesn't win it's world war 3 because they don't fear the US anymore!!!!
From Europe: Thank you Brando and CoachD. For me Walz took the debate, for Vance it is hard once you start lying like Trump to tell Fact from Fiction!! You have to have a good Memory to remember the lies and we know Trump does not have that. Trump will sink himself, the writing is on the wall. 💙💙🙏🙏💙💙
I particularly liked the gentlemanly demeanor that BOTH men showed. I would also admit that JD was very polished and well spoken. Not AT ALL what I expected. But yah. Most answers were NON answers, or lies. Or outright refused to answer
Vance’s entire demeanor was a lie tonight. Then add the gaslighting and flat out lies. He is more dangerous than Trump at this point because he will fool more people than Trump, at this point in time.
I think the reason that Vance showed like he agree with some things that Tim said. Is to try to show voters " hey, I'm the same as you except......" It's manipulating.
What Vance did was word gymnastics. He is good at saying a lot but not at answering questions. For example he said that he wouldn’t ban an abortion ban and that was a lie…is easily fact checked.
I agree. Listening to your commentary on the debate was so interesting. I have not watched the debate from these two yet. You two are awesome. Thanks for your insight.
Two matters of truth popped out for me. One was Walz on where he was during the Tiananmen Square protests. The other was Vance on who won the 2020 presidential election. Vance not being able to tell the truth on who won the 2020 presidential election is the bigger deal for me. Consequently, I consider Vance the loser of this debate when it comes to honesty and character.
@@gregcauthon1958amen. I tell cult members all the time they excuse everything and cover up for the things Trump says all the time. F*ck all that. J6 should have ruined Trump. They can falsely blame Nancy for this and another for that. The fact is Trumps own family begged him to do something before he ruined their "legacy" and he said rioters were doing what they were supposed to be doing. He tried to take over by force. That is not opinion.
I agree. Those were the two things that stood out to me also. And if Vance can’t say Trump lost, you know he is backing Trump if he decides to start another insurrection. That is way more important than a lie about where someone was during a certain time in history.
I would respect Vance if he admitted to the many lies he and Trump told, apologized, especially to the great people of Springfield, thrn came on over to the right side. Just sayin'. 😁💙💙💙💙💙 P.S. Shout out to my fellow Texans out there!!!! Let's turn our state BLUE together!!!! Early voting starts in 20 days, on October 21st!!!!!!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
You guys are too nice. This almost felt like both-sidesing. Vance lied his way through and interrupted constantly. That's not skilled debate. That is snake oil sales.
This Vance tonight was not the same Vance that we've seen before. Totally different than all the disgusting garbage he spews out of his mouth on right wing tv. He's such a phony
Thank you, gentlemen. Yes, JD came off as more "normal" and reasonable than usual, but to anyone who DOES pay attention to him or our politics (as you guys do, of course), we heard a mountain of lies.
I agree with coach D. JD Vance is not trustworthy. We is a vey interlligent man. He knows how to debate. But he is like a chameleon. His persona changes depending on where he is. I noticed the difference in how he presents himself when he is on a right-leaning network and on MSNBC. He is confident on FOX and very arrogant and condescending on MSANBC. Tim Waltz was more believable. He was honest and genuine. You could trust Tim Waltz's honesty and sincerity. Not JD Vance, he is a con man who will flip when he feels the situation best benefits him
Coach, you were reading my mind. I sat here and at the end of the debate I laughed and said Boy, JD is trying to save his a&& so when trump loses he will have a slight chance to continue a political career. 😂😂😂😂😂
They also should do elder care and #Peticare and no one ever mentions ANYTHING they will do 4 the 12% (and growing) of the group who is most at risk of poverty and that often has no one to turn to in emergency situations: adult orphans.
On childcare, paid maternal/paternal leave is necessary… months, not weeks. This country is completely missing out on the foundation of human attachment, hence the preponderance of narcissism and lack of empathy. Not an accident we are the only country without maternity leave AND the only country with homicide as the number one cause of death. Murderers and political corrupters are attachment disordered.
Brandon, your observation is right on the point. Vance cannot be trusted. He was trying to distance himself from Trump and beat his drum at the same! 😂
I just want to say, thank you both for being civil and actually getting into the debate content. I don’t like that some people/channels are upset because they were polite. That there wasn’t a fight. There’s a time and a place for everything Also, Tim made the moderators laugh a few times. He is just the salt of the earth!
Trump is old losing his mind, Vance is typing to be more political, they know that Trump won't last .So he's saying i can prove Trump is unfit and gets what's going to happen.?
I’m in Scotland and stayed up all night to watch the debate. Walz came across as caring and genuine, Vance although smooth and practiced came across as smug and arrogant. He lied about things that have already been fact checked. I dont believe for a second that Vance likes or respects trump, he is sucking up to boost his own political career. I really hope that the American citizens vote Kamala Harris into the Whitehouse next month. The alternative would be a disaster for American. Thanks for this breakdown of the debate 🤗🤗
I absolutely agree with Coach, I don't trust Vance either. With that being said, it was a good, professional debate; something we haven't seen in a long time.
Walz was too polite. Vance has the same character as Eddie Haskell and his past comments about women and immigrants should have been rubbed in his face.
#Tennessee Brando why didn’t walk Vance away from Trump after all racial remarks. Vance wife is Indian descent. wondering what does Donald Trump think of vance’s wife as well?
Wish they had talked about the workers striking at the ports. Afraid if it lasts more than a few days it's going to affect the outcome of the election.
35:13 But he didn't "look into it", even if a constituent had called. He spread it on air and online without looking into it at all. Talking about something on TV isn't investigating!
While this is important. What is more important was Trump talking in Milwaukee. Trump said he is getting rid of the department of public education. Replacing it with ???? Choice of schools private religious this would leave how many children uneducated in America 🇺🇸 😳
Where was the apology to the Haitians and to Springfield,Ohio. He apologized for his former comments about his pathetic running mate. I agree that Vance shouldn’t be believed or trusted. Tim Walz showed that he’s not as “polished” as Vance but I will be honored to have him as our VP with Kamala as our first woman president. Vance evaded every question by deflecting back to immigration over and over again. Harris and Walz all the way!
Walz was too nice. He fumbled the question about his trip to China. Walz did get Vance on the question about whether Trump lost the 2020 election. Walz should have said something about Vance saying people were eating cats. I watched Scaramucci's analysis. It was pretty insightful. ruclips.net/video/yAGFWzhHSk0/видео.html
JD Vance had more experience in debating and appeared more professional, while Tim Walz seemed more human. I felt that if I were in his position, I would be like him. This made me feel more sympathetic toward Tim Walz, as he comes across as authentic and honest; he doesn't hide behind a facade (or eye liner)
A slick city stoat met an experienced rustic game-keeper. Sloat slipped and evaded; gamekeeper landed one decent blow. Stoat survived to run free. Unimpressive for "hedge-whumps".
Yes I think you’re right that Vance is looking primarily to his future. Which shapeshifter is the real Vance? He doesn’t come across as authentic. He did perform slightly better tonight, I fear. But he has made his bed with DJT, and won’t stand up to him. I admire Walz for doing this, obviously not his comfort zone. He could have hit harder, but did a very good job. ps-Interesting to see 2 of my favorite opinionated commentators bouncing ideas, thanks Coach D & TB!
I wonder if Walz swayed some on the fence never Trumpers? I wonder if being polite, moderate, bi-partisan got through to them. He wasn’t self righteous; only on the January 6th. I imagine that is a conversation people have in their families.
But, what he did was act a lot like Trump. It seems like he wanted to debate Kamala. All he did was accuse Kamala of everything wrong in the world. I was thinking during this time, "If you have something to say, say it to my face". The fact that he lied almost as much as Trump did made him the loser. No respect for DJT or JDV.
Vance is an intelligent sucufant.. So he was saying what he felt was necessary to make himself look presentable because his true feelings that he has been spouting over the past several weeks have not gone over well. He knows the exposure to the vast number of citizens viewing this debate were greater than any previous exposure so he wanted to look more acceptable. We know he is a replacement for Trump if the ticket gets in. You cannot trust Vance. He has already shown his true colors so he just said what he felt would work and copied off of Waltz. Let's see if his strategy works. Also Trump ought to be watchful - Et tu Brute.
I sure wish all the people listening to your show would really listen when you explain that what trump and JD are saying isn’t exactly what is true. Especially when it is so obvious.
Vance, slick, greased pig slick.
Walz, honest, well prepared.
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Agree. BUT.......the purpose of these debates is actually to hopefully tip someone to vote for your candidate who might be undecided. Or possibly change someone's mind from the opposition.
Waltz looked weak...uncertain...stumbling and mostly frowning. Vance looked smooth. And since there was zero fact checking, it's only the optics folks really looked at....especially MAGA. The "Mr. Nice Guy" would have worked for a completely Dem audience, but in order to beat Trump, the Dems need to aggressively step up and loudly call things out. It was only that last moment that Waltz approached that level.
This was a disappointment and I only hope that between now and when this is over, the Dems will step up and do what is needed to win this. Harris did a great job in her debate (IMO) .....we need MUCH more of that. Anyway, just my opinion.
I watched some right wing wrap ups on this debate, and what was expressed is exactly what I'm saying here. They ignore content and only look for who looks "stronger".
A slick lie is still a lie
But Vance got upset about being fact checked.
That's because his statements were 'couched' in less than honest Trumpisms.
The problem with Vance is his condescending, smugly disingenuous attitude. I did appreciate the fact that he didn't try to launch an attack on Senator Tim Walz like Trump tried to do with VP Harris, but his refusal to admit that Trump lost the 2020 election is proof thag he will stand behind a lie and that we, the American people, cannot trust him. I am STILLvoting BLUE down the ballot, and I hope everyone else does, too. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Every point JD made was a factual lie.
Vance is one of the worst rumor mongers around.
He also has stated that he would say anything to keep the
the election going.
Yes! And Vance's rumor mongering nearly got citizens and legal residents of Springfield killed! Despicable!
As I wrote to someone else who thought vance was a better debater, it is extremely easy to be a "good" debater when someone like vance has little to no conscience, and they lie without guilt.
I also said, lets just wait until the fact checkers do their thing, and then we will see how well, or not, each debater did.
JD Couch didn't answer the questions. Liar 💙💙💙💙💙💙
One simple question. Did Trump lose the election. Sad
Walz didn't answer the one about China.
@@lizbethsdadhe did
@@lizbethsdad you mean the one where he pays China 700k in taxes and has his products made there. I didn't realize they asked that
Vance was a polished turd and Walz was an uncut diamond.
Best description I've heard! Perfection.
Good analogy😂😂
Walz won.💙💙💙 i dont trust Vance either. What is that saying? You are the company you keep.
Exactly. Well said 👍
Tim Walz is who I will trust my life to. Vance is a smooth liar. Voting Democratic 💯💙💙💙💙💙
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Imagine the 2 dumbest people Tampon guy and the empty pant suit trying to negotiate with Iran and Russia HaHa if trump doesn't win it's world war 3 because they don't fear the US anymore!!!!
From Europe: Thank you Brando and CoachD. For me Walz took the debate, for Vance it is hard once you start lying like Trump to tell Fact from Fiction!! You have to have a good Memory to remember the lies and we know Trump does not have that. Trump will sink himself, the writing is on the wall. 💙💙🙏🙏💙💙
Trumps lies and rhetoric has totally sunk his entire campaign. He is going to lose in the biggest landslide in presidential election history 💙💙💙
👏👏👏💯CoachD .. JD was trying to safe his own skin, smooth talking but still so obviusly lying 🤨😡
In an interview, Lev Parnes said the laptop was a plant
Walz answer all the questions with pride and confidence. 💙💙💙💙
All of them, what about the Vietnam one in 1989 on the news radio
I thought Walz was so authentic the entire debate. He spoke directly to all of the American people and included us in everything he is fighting for.
Not about China.
I particularly liked the gentlemanly demeanor that BOTH men showed. I would also admit that JD was very polished and well spoken. Not AT ALL what I expected. But yah. Most answers were NON answers, or lies. Or outright refused to answer
Also I was very disappointed that Walz didn't talk about Project 2025.
Vance’s entire demeanor was a lie tonight. Then add the gaslighting and flat out lies. He is more dangerous than Trump at this point because he will fool more people than Trump, at this point in time.
I think the reason that Vance showed like he agree with some things that Tim said. Is to try to show voters " hey, I'm the same as you except......" It's manipulating.
He changed from calling it a "Hoax" to saying 'The ocean will rise 1/8 of an inch & give you more beachfront property"
JD Vance acted like an adult but Trump’s hand was still up Vance’s back. Vance is a medicine man.
Thank you guys for the commentary! Mainstream media is going to become obsolete and I love it!
What Vance did was word gymnastics. He is good at saying a lot but not at answering questions. For example he said that he wouldn’t ban an abortion ban and that was a lie…is easily fact checked.
Absolutely correct, I shut down listening to him at that point because I knew he was lying. Waiting for the next question.
Vote blue for harris/walz 💙
Taking my ballot to mailbox first thing in the morning.
Vance complained about the one fact check on Springfield immigrants, but it came after she had to cut his mike to stop his lies about it.
Now trump is complaining and saying that they didn’t fact check Tim Walz he’s always complaining about something
Walz won
I think your duelty on the debate is great, with the both of you, Brando and
CoachD, thank you so much!!
I agree. Listening to your commentary on the debate was so interesting. I have not watched the debate from these two yet. You two are awesome. Thanks for your insight.
Two matters of truth popped out for me. One was Walz on where he was during the Tiananmen Square protests. The other was Vance on who won the 2020 presidential election. Vance not being able to tell the truth on who won the 2020 presidential election is the bigger deal for me. Consequently, I consider Vance the loser of this debate when it comes to honesty and character.
I could care less where Walz was over 30 years ago but I think about Jan. 6 all the time and it really makes me mad. One is not like the other.
@@gregcauthon1958amen. I tell cult members all the time they excuse everything and cover up for the things Trump says all the time. F*ck all that. J6 should have ruined Trump. They can falsely blame Nancy for this and another for that. The fact is Trumps own family begged him to do something before he ruined their "legacy" and he said rioters were doing what they were supposed to be doing. He tried to take over by force. That is not opinion.
I agree. Those were the two things that stood out to me also. And if Vance can’t say Trump lost, you know he is backing Trump if he decides to start another insurrection. That is way more important than a lie about where someone was during a certain time in history.
Did Vance say to Walz if you win, I'll be there to help you.
Definitely
I would respect Vance if he admitted to the many lies he and Trump told, apologized, especially to the great people of Springfield, thrn came on over to the right side. Just sayin'. 😁💙💙💙💙💙
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You guys are too nice. This almost felt like both-sidesing.
Vance lied his way through and interrupted constantly. That's not skilled debate. That is snake oil sales.
That’s what he is, “snake oil salesman”
And here is the big question. With Trump's health failing soooo fast, JD is sure to end up being the president. Is that what you want?!?
It is what the Heritage Society, Trump's wife and kids want.
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Hell no, seriously dangerous
I think that's the plan. Trump gets them in because he has the loyal followers, then they push him aside and move Vance up.
Totally agree
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This Vance tonight was not the same Vance that we've seen before. Totally different than all the disgusting garbage he spews out of his mouth on right wing tv. He's such a phony
Thank you, gentlemen. Yes, JD came off as more "normal" and reasonable than usual, but to anyone who DOES pay attention to him or our politics (as you guys do, of course), we heard a mountain of lies.
Childless cat ladies and granny babysitting as childcare. Even mentioned the church babysitting 😮fill of predators
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Boring is what came to mind. I don't think it moved the needle. It just requires people to fact check
I agree with coach D. JD Vance is not trustworthy. We is a vey interlligent man. He knows how to debate. But he is like a chameleon. His persona changes depending on where he is. I noticed the difference in how he presents himself when he is on a right-leaning network and on MSNBC. He is confident on FOX and very arrogant and condescending on MSANBC. Tim Waltz was more believable. He was honest and genuine. You could trust Tim Waltz's honesty and sincerity. Not JD Vance, he is a con man who will flip when he feels the situation best benefits him
Coach, you were reading my mind. I sat here and at the end of the debate I laughed and said Boy, JD is trying to save his a&& so when trump loses he will have a slight chance to continue a political career. 😂😂😂😂😂
They have put us through HELL!
It was more of a true debate -- an old-fashioned one where both people acted with dignity and decorum.
TIM WON... AT ONE PART JD😮 WAS WATCHING TIM TALK. JD LOOKED LIKE HE MIGHT VOTE FOR HARRIS ? JD LIED ALOT BUT IS SLICK😮
I kinda felt like JD was thinking he wished Walz was his father.
on childcare, large businesses should provide childcare on sight. Like hospitals, banks, factories. less missed work.
They used to before trump. Some in MN.
They also should do elder care and #Peticare and no one ever mentions ANYTHING they will do 4 the 12% (and growing) of the group who is most at risk of poverty and that often has no one to turn to in emergency situations: adult orphans.
On childcare, paid maternal/paternal leave is necessary… months, not weeks. This country is completely missing out on the foundation of human attachment, hence the preponderance of narcissism and lack of empathy. Not an accident we are the only country without maternity leave AND the only country with homicide as the number one cause of death. Murderers and political corrupters are attachment disordered.
Exactly. I agree for the child's protection
@@IMeMineWhoyeah animal care is mega expensive and inflated
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JD Vance just lie his way all through the debate agreeing with Tim but behind his back he thinks he won Tim
It will not move any undecideds either way.
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Please do a podcast on project 2025 I know Brando you would tell like is I really have enjoyed CoachD
Thank you both for helping me get through tonight with reality! I just couldn't listen to JD Vance's lies tonight!!😅❤❤❤😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
I've been saying this one for a while: Hey DonOld, the Walz closing in?
Please don't forget all of the things that Vance has said. They are the same . Don't forget that 😂
Brando, I watched five minutes of the debate,before I came over to RUclips
Brandon, your observation is right on the point. Vance cannot be trusted. He was trying to distance himself from Trump and beat his drum at the same! 😂
I just want to say, thank you both for being civil and actually getting into the debate content.
I don’t like that some people/channels are upset because they were polite. That there wasn’t a fight. There’s a time and a place for everything
Also, Tim made the moderators laugh a few times. He is just the salt of the earth!
Love this discussion
I’m watching you all tonight to get the highlights of the debate tonight on TV
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It was clear who was the teacher and who was the attentive student.
Trump is old losing his mind, Vance is typing to be more political, they know that Trump won't last .So he's saying i can prove Trump is unfit and gets what's going to happen.?
Trump will throw him under the bus in a fit of paranoid jealousy
I’m in Scotland and stayed up all night to watch the debate. Walz came across as caring and genuine, Vance although smooth and practiced came across as smug and arrogant.
He lied about things that have already been fact checked.
I dont believe for a second that Vance likes or respects trump, he is sucking up to boost his own political career.
I really hope that the American citizens vote Kamala Harris into the Whitehouse next month. The alternative would be a disaster for American.
Thanks for this breakdown of the debate 🤗🤗
There Should have been FACT CHECKING!
It was Not a strong debate, the commentator was weak!
Disappointed!
OMG, I love these two, and I agree, Vance appeared more dare I say presidential, but I say Walz won on substance.
Any praise coming JDs way will throw Trump off kilter. He will feel threatened.
My take is Vance was pulling the wool over our eyes in the debate.
I absolutely agree with Coach, I don't trust Vance either. With that being said, it was a good, professional debate; something we haven't seen in a long time.
Walz was too polite. Vance has the same character as Eddie Haskell and his past comments about women and immigrants should have been rubbed in his face.
#Tennessee Brando why didn’t walk Vance away from Trump after all racial remarks. Vance wife is Indian descent. wondering what does Donald Trump think of vance’s wife as well?
He probably doesn't care. JD is a fake, running for his own interests. Don't forget what he really thinks about Trump.
I bet Trump was furious with Vance, for being decent
The ev angel icals are probably having conniption fits. He was might slick pretending to care about the rights they want to repeal.
Kamala should have picked Dave Chappelle to be her running mate. He could have been up there roasting Vance.
JD Vance tried to be slick & smooth. The moderators caught him & said : " you have not answered thge question. Happened 4 times, maybe more.
Vance never mentioned Biden even once. He seems to think Kamala is the president
Vance was thinking oh crap Peter my dominant one, is watching. What does my man Pete thiel want me to do. Pete is my love. He owns me.
Who?
JD sanewashed himself for the debate. There are a lot of people that are only now tunning in.
Wish they had talked about the workers striking at the ports. Afraid if it lasts more than a few days it's going to affect the outcome of the election.
35:13 But he didn't "look into it", even if a constituent had called. He spread it on air and online without looking into it at all. Talking about something on TV isn't investigating!
Vance won from a performance standpoint. Walz won when it comes to fact checking.
While this is important. What is more important was Trump talking in Milwaukee. Trump said he is getting rid of the department of public education. Replacing it with ???? Choice of schools private religious this would leave how many children uneducated in America 🇺🇸 😳
What do a liar do that's lie. Wolf in sheep clothing, JD Vance. Go Blue.
Where was the apology to the Haitians and to Springfield,Ohio. He apologized for his former comments about his pathetic running mate. I agree that Vance shouldn’t be believed or trusted. Tim Walz showed that he’s not as “polished” as Vance but I will be honored to have him as our VP with Kamala as our first woman president. Vance evaded every question by deflecting back to immigration over and over again. Harris and Walz all the way!
Walz was too nice. He fumbled the question about his trip to China. Walz did get Vance on the question about whether Trump lost the 2020 election. Walz should have said something about Vance saying people were eating cats.
I watched Scaramucci's analysis. It was pretty insightful. ruclips.net/video/yAGFWzhHSk0/видео.html
JD Vance had more experience in debating and appeared more professional, while Tim Walz seemed more human. I felt that if I were in his position, I would be like him. This made me feel more sympathetic toward Tim Walz, as he comes across as authentic and honest; he doesn't hide behind a facade (or eye liner)
Why can't Vance answer the questions.
A slick city stoat met an experienced rustic game-keeper. Sloat slipped and evaded; gamekeeper landed one decent blow. Stoat survived to run free. Unimpressive for "hedge-whumps".
I expect more from governor waltz. I think he did not distinguish himself from JD Vance. He didn’t do any harm to the Harris campaign.
Yes I think you’re right that Vance is looking primarily to his future. Which shapeshifter is the real Vance? He doesn’t come across as authentic. He did perform slightly better tonight, I fear. But he has made his bed with DJT, and won’t stand up to him. I admire Walz for doing this, obviously not his comfort zone. He could have hit harder, but did a very good job.
ps-Interesting to see 2 of my favorite opinionated commentators bouncing ideas, thanks Coach D & TB!
I wonder if Walz swayed some on the fence never Trumpers? I wonder if being polite, moderate, bi-partisan got through to them. He wasn’t self righteous; only on the January 6th. I imagine that is a conversation people have in their families.
Walz won on substance sincerity and honesty, Vance won on lies and being a snake, which exactly the kind of leader maga likes.
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But, what he did was act a lot like Trump. It seems like he wanted to debate Kamala. All he did was accuse Kamala of everything wrong in the world. I was thinking during this time, "If you have something to say, say it to my face". The fact that he lied almost as much as Trump did made him the loser. No respect for DJT or JDV.
Walz not strong enough. Too many missed opportunities . Needed to stand up to him much stronger
debate was not what i expected , but trumpets post were ... i agree with coach D about vance
For the record Donald Trump doesn't have any common sense never have never will by the way is Vans joking that's the best one he ever came up with
Vance is an intelligent sucufant.. So he was saying what he felt was necessary to make himself look presentable because his true feelings that he has been spouting over the past several weeks have not gone over well. He knows the exposure to the vast number of citizens viewing this debate were greater than any previous exposure so he wanted to look more acceptable. We know he is a replacement for Trump if the ticket gets in. You cannot trust Vance. He has already shown his true colors so he just said what he felt would work and copied off of Waltz. Let's see if his strategy works. Also Trump ought to be watchful - Et tu Brute.
vance fid nit answer questions and told in average 7 lies per answer for over 90 lies. Word salad and lying is not a win.
James David's got plans.....
Jd has said some awful thing - very anti women. He can walk it back all he wants but has shown he’ll swing with the wind to his own gain act any time.
How about Beck Loser lots more
Vance may have looked like a slick but it was all lies and he's not good infront of people or large crowds
I sure wish all the people listening to your show would really listen when you explain that what trump and JD are saying isn’t exactly what is true. Especially when it is so obvious.
Vance's "You can't trust science" argument made me think of IASIP Science is a Lie Sometimes - ruclips.net/video/2vBvJxx7Oqc/видео.html
Bowman has too much of trump stench