I guess to be fair, it was also that the baby Harry Potter was able to survive being hit with the killing curse, which otherwise automatically killed anyone it touched. If Moby's mom somehow put a magical spell on the white whale calf, which caused Ahab's second harpoon thrown directly at Moby Dick to bounce straight back and slash Ahab's leg off, then I suppose everyone praising young Moby Dick as an enigma would be a bit more justified.
"He's bein' chased by whalers!" "More like running away, I'd say." Uh... yeah, Storm. That is generally what happens when you're being chased by something... you run away from it....
Because Moby Dick is such a kid friendly story! I'm surprised no one ever made a kid friendly "Of Mice and Men" movie, where Lenny has a smart-alec talking mouse and no one dies.
Nah, it's the Golden Films version where Lennie just has hair over his eyes and bad posture, which he immediately fixes before getting married to Curly's Wife, Melody, and her talking rabbits who won't shut up about inane bullshit.
The sad part is I can actually imagine that existing as some 90s animated film, especially the part about the talking mouse Sounds like the type of film I would have encountered as a kid back then after channel surfing and the only thing I would remember is the comic relief animal
I am going to admit a revenge story where it turns out that they actually killed their target the entire time and are going mad on a foolhardy mission to kill them sounds like an excellent set up for a story. Could end with him losing his ship, his crew, crawling up on a shore only to find the dead corpse of his quarry long since dead. Though that is WAY too dark for a children's movie... well way too dark for a non-Dingo Children's movie.
The Dingo version would probably play the "womp womp wah" music as Ahab finds the bloated corpse of Moby Dick while crawling onto the shore. (Right before he passes out from pain.)
There's an issue of Marvel's What If where a different person inherited the powers of Nova and went on a long killing spree to find the one who murdered their husband. ...Only for it to be revealed that the perpetrator died months ago when he lost control of his car speeding away from the scene of the crime.
In the original book, Queequeg's fellow harpooners were a Native American man named Tashtego, a black man named Daggoo, and an Indian man named Fedallah. But the other harpooners in this movie are Ahab himself and some random white guys. Shame, since this was such a faithful adaptation otherwise.
I'm not sure it's a case of whitewashing, so much as it is just laziness and apathy. "We're already butchering the book, so why bother fleshing these guys out? And if they're not going to get even the bare minimum of characterization, why give them a different skin color than the rest of the inconsequential extras?" Of course, the above scenario assumes they were thinking at all. Given what a disasterpiece this was, that's rather doubtful.
BilboKoira PFFFT - That's it! The SJWs need to completely remake Moby Dick with an all female cast and only throw ONE male side-character in there but have him be a complete idiot who's all looks and no personality! Also every line of dialogue MUST revolve solely around gender and/or race. And anybody who says the film's bad is automatically a "sexist pig" regardless of whether or not their criticism is accurate. It'll be the PERFECT adaptation! (insert obvious Ghostbusters reboot joke here) XD
Really, Queequeg, Ahab, and Ishmael are the only Pequod crew they KEPT in this adaptation! Everyone else is cut out! Even the white sailors here are clearly not the same ones as those in the book.
I can kinda understand making Ahab worse than he was in the original novel (since whaling is considered far less acceptable now than it was when the book was written), but did they really have to reduce him to a caricature of himself? Disney made Frollo more evil in their _Hunchback_ adaptation, but they didn't turn him into a one-note stock villain.
The mom is just seen giving a dumb advice to her kid, while a boat of whalers is passing by. Moby just try for it and she doesn't hold him on, so she atones for her stupidity. Nothing of value was lost in the eyes of spectators. Definitely cannot be likened to Disney parent death.
Oni Queen we can all agree that there are many deaths of a parent of an animated animal protagonist that are much better than the death of Moby Dick’s mom.
The death of Littlefoot's mom actually made audiences feel something because they took time to establish how much she and her son cared about one another. This butchering of Melville's work had her getting killed right off the bat, before you have any reason to care, and the voice acting was so bad you couldn't really tell if Moby was sad or not
The real-life story of Mocha Dick, the whale that Melville’s novel was inspired by is actually quite sad. Mocha Dick was kind of like the Django of the whaling world, sinking numerous whaling ships and no doubt preventing the deaths of several of his kind, I like to think that he knew what he was doing, more than just attacking possible threats.
@@Tareltonlives They actually did. It was called "In the Heart of the Sea". It actually starred Chris Hemsworth and Tom Holland and was directed by Ron Howard. It was a box office flop, unfortunately. Probably why you haven't heard of it.
I thought it was also inspired by a real incident where a whale rammed a waling ship to sink, leaving its crew adrift on the smaller skiffs before they turned to cannibalism and died?
Wait, so because his mom got killed, Moby is too scared to breach? AKA go to the surface to breathe? If he never goes up for air then how is he not dead from lack of oxygen?
Breaching means when whales leap out of the water a la Shamu (they breach the surface). Sometimes, whales just swim up and take a breath without breaching.
I remember renting this on VHS as a kid from the local library once, and then being confused that Moby Dick wasn't a friendly whale when discovering the original story. XD
17:15 "He's being chased by whalers!" "More like running away" um...yes, thats what "being chased" would entail. You're trying to run away from the people chasing you....
This is a perfect example of: If you have a book of classic literature, and you want to make an animated feature for kids, based on it, and there's adult scenes in it that need to be edited to make them more kid friendly, if you can't figure a way to do this in a way that doesn't completely change the story, you shouldn't even START the animation project. Some change is acceptable in adaptation. BUT when that change alters the entire point of the work of the book, that's a problem.
The point is that you should still tell the story that was in the original book. If you have to "update it" and change the message of the book. IE. The humans are good guys in the book but we need them to be villains now because we like to protect whales now and the movie will upset people, then... don't make the damn movie. Or if you do, make it right and tell the original story. Don't change things. Tell the story FROM THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT and make that PLAINLY CLEAR. Making these alterations ultimately destroys the entire story most of the time. That's the problem that most of these book to movies miss. HISTORICAL CONTEXT!!! Let's make Quasimodo the hero who everyone loves at the end!! Let's make Moby Dick and Ishmael and all the whales and the whalers friends!!! No!!!!
If you're gonna introduce kids to Moby Dick why not at least track down the Wishbone version, Remember Wishbone? The dog with the spot over his eye connecting the problems his master is going through to a classic story. And also everyone dies in Moby Dick except Ishmael, and as someone who has read the full unabridged version of Moby Dick, the actually story is like a third of the book, the other two thirds are all about how to kill, process, and melt down blubber into oil and which whales produce the best oil with Sperm Whale oil out of the head being the best, and all the tools you need to properly chop up and melt down your whale. you know for kids.
Ah, whishbone. I miss that show. I'm gonna go wag another tale, and sniff out adventure with wishbone on the trail. I just have to ask...what's the story, wishbone?
Because that was what the story of Moby Dick was missing, Moby Dick suffering from PTSD because Captain Ahab killed his mother and going to therapy to get over it. I also wonder if this was the movie that the people who made the theme park on the moon in Futurama, which is why they have a ride featuring a song about whalers on the moon?
I was like "OH NO is that the super dark, bloody, depressing Moby Dick cartoon that traumatized me as a kid?!" But then it wasn't. Seriously, check out the Danish movie Samson & Sally. There, the whale Samson swims through the blood of his family, Moby Dick (who lives in Atlantis!) is senile and as far as I remember dies of radiation and later Samson almost chokes by an oil spill. Movie is also post-apocalyptic, with parts of the USA submerged. All accompanied by an innapropriately comedic whale hunter.
Well, no one's adapted Grant Morrison's _The New Adventures of Hitler_ yet. The comic's not magical in itself, yet Morrison dabbled in chaos magick, so...
7:52 We *urp* gotta hunt a whale, Morty I seriously some times wonder how it was to work on these productions. It's all so disjointed, but with sorta lapses of both staying true to the source material then massively deviating into kid-film schlock.
Seems to me like it was just glancing through pages and just replacing adult/mature stuff with the first thing that would come to the mind of the writers
I'm assuming production went something like this: Executive: We need a Moby Dick film in two weeks! Writer1: *looks at book for inspiration* Writer2: *haphazardly slaps together typical family film plot* Writer1 and Writer2: *suddenly realize they were supposed to be collaborating and carelessly throw both scripts in a blender* Animators: *scramble to throw together something that vaguely resembles the script; putting in as little effort as possible because the final cut is due tomorrow* Voice Actors: *barely give a shit because nobody in their right mind would add this to their resume* Executive: The Walmart truck's leaving in five minutes! Anyone who hasn't abandoned them yet: *scribbles out some box art and copies the the film to a disc; then proceeds to throw it out the window into the semi trailer just as it's about to leave* Executive: Good work. The Lion King's coming out in like, three days from now, so we'll need you guys to stay late for that. ...Oh. And you're not getting overtime.
Ah, Moby Dick, a 19th century version of a whaling docu-drama that could only exist in an era when authors were paid by the word. Perfect children’s movie!
Master Markus The striking resemblance is perfectly explainable. When Ishmael became captain, he and his crew sailed into the Bermuda Triangle never to return. Everyone onboard the Pequod died, but Ishmael was thrown into a temporal vortex that left him stranded in the Call of the Wild universe. With no way of returning to his own timeline, he was forced to create a new identity in order to survive in this strange new world, and was eventually taken in by the easily-killed-off father who threw his life away in search for operation gold. That's why he quickly got over his dad's death so effortlessly - he had only known the guy for, like, maybe a month or two.
"Why are we working on a boat for a captain we hate?" Well, maybe they got knocked on the head while drunk at port and woke up in the ship with no way to escape. FOR KIDS!
15:00 given that Moby Dick was first near Sumatra in the book and the final battle happened somewhere between China and America, in otherwords the centre of the Pacific ocean and nowhere near the Mediteranian, the whole Atlantis thing is even weirder... Maybe it's the ancient lost continent of Mu? That would explain the Egyptian stuff that's down there too...
So a whale with intelligence greater than the average human and is not afraid to kill to protect itself, somehow translates into a kids animated movie? Hey Freddy Kruger! Want to be in something more embarrassing than the 2010 movie? Actually as I think about it, that might actually be less embarrassing.
I really love that bit at 12:50 where Ishmael fails to climb a 45-degree angle rope ladder and has to rocket off of it like it was the electric fence from Jurassic Park in order to fall overboard and advance the 'plot'. Also, at 14:51, forget Atlantis, Moby is swimming through *Egypt!* Guess the Nile flooded extra-hard that year, huh?
Perfect way to handle the Old man running gag by now, in for a quick reference and immediately out again before he can overstay his welcome with these who don't care for him as a running gag.
Ishmael and Queequeg joined Ahab's crew and went through the whole "I thought he was only hiring one person" story in the book. They...did the same thing when they were younger? Did Ahab forget them in the future? Are we going through a time loop?
A thought ocured to me. Moby Dick is grey instead of white, he loses his mother and later fights whalers... Weirdest reboot ever for one of the Robins, since we can tell this story is about Dick Gray-son. :p
The relationship between Queequeg and Ishmael is _especially_ icky if you’ve read the book and know that they were in a borderline-romantic relationship (and by borderline, I mean they share a bed and Queequeg says "henceforth we are married" lol)
If they're still in business, I want to see these guys adapt Jurassic Park (as in the original Michael Crichton novel). If only to see Phelous riff on it.
They’d probably write Hammond out of the story and make either Grant or Malcom the villain with Lex and Tim helping a baby Velociraptor(who is the main character) shut down the island and free the Tyrannosaurus Rex
And this was from the same set with White Fang and Call of the Wild? Will this definitely be one of the GoodTimes? At least Old Man appeared a la MK toasty.
AnonJl1 Old Man: USELESS! Wabuu: Shut up! That gag is soooooo- Old Man: Quick, Charled! Do something about Wabuu! Charlie: (dull falsetto voice) Okay old chap. Wabuu: Huh? (Charlie lunges at Wabuu's gut, scratching him mercilessly) Wabuu: aaaaahhhh! My guts! Old Man: How unexpected! Gotta go! (Old Man runs off, heeeeeeeing all the way while Charled follows suit. Wabuu is lying down in pain while the Little Angels and Wuschel laugh at him) Wabuu: Oooohhhh... I'll call you stupid next time, Old Man. NEXT TIME....! (Coughs blood)
12:58, Owl: hoot I say Old Man, you should not pick on a defenseless person like that, I think a good lesson is in order here, OWL!!! MAXIMIZE!!! (fires missiles on the Old Man) Old Man: (Grumbles) doh that stupid Owl I'll make him useless as well, OLD MAN!!! TERRORIZE!!! HEEEE!!!! (Owl and Old Man fights each other while Moby watches). Moby: whats going on here?
I want to see a review of Sampson and Sally, a Danish animated movie about whales where, I kid you not, they have a song number where two comic relief characters build a human centipede of the Titanic victims skeletons and uses it as a xylophone, and they have a bunch of environmental messages.
Awesome review as always dude. If you want to see a truly atrocious animated movie check out Anchors Up. It's got talking boats, a rap music scene, evil people who the movie forgets are evil at the end, and even though there are houses stores and markets there are no humans at all in it. Everything mechanical is living. The boats wear hats and use cell phones!
Moby Dick was based off of a true story. A whale did ram the boat and sink it. Some of the crew got to an island. The captain and some of the crew were stranded in the middle of the ocean in row boats. They started eating the crew members that died. When they eat all of the dead crew members, one of the remaining crew volunteered to be shot so he could be eaten by the others. This young man was the captain’s nephew. They were discovered and brought back home. The captain’s sister was understandably upset with the captain. The crew mates that got to the island were found. Something had eaten them and only their skeletons remained.
9:59 That's pretty deep for one of these, and I like that they included it and asking what Ahab did to the whale. I didn't see this film though, and I know of better alternatives with the theme I mentioned
Wait, how did the kid get back to the ship? He was on a deserted island with gold and food one moment, and then in the captains quarters, is this the another miracle thanks to that seahorse? Why did he even go back? He had FOOD AND GOLD. (And someone to talk to, too!)
Can't wait for the kiddie version of To Kill a Mockingbird where Scout has a talking mockingbird sidekick that won't shut the hell up and steals most of the run time.
"He's the terror of the deep and he stalks you while you sleep." He stalks you . . . from the deep ocean . . . while you sleep . . . in your bed that is, I'm pretty sure, on land. that sounds like some kind of miracle to me.
This always got me...why do people think these dark and often disturbing stories are good for kids? I'm not one for dumbing things down for the kids or shielding them from everything, but doing this IS dumbing a story down. Because often themes that are too dark or adult for kids are essential for the story. Without them, there won't be much of a punch.
Wow what a wild review! Love the talking Starfish and seahorse! Your whacky movie reviews are always so much fun! This video is strange as heck. Kiwi quick is supposed to be a villain but they turned him into a surrogate brother type! Talk about Quality reformatting of the story!
Moby The Adventures Of Young Moby Dick should’ve just been a crossover between Moby Dick and the musician Moby. “Extreme Ways are Back again, Extreme Ways At Ahab’s bay”
Here we are now going to the goodtimes side, weapons in hand as we go for a ride. Here we are now going to the Dingo Pictures side, I look a my friends and we hope we won't die.
We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon......
But there's aint no whales, so we tell tall tales and we sing a whaling tune!
Whalers on the moon is a way more accurate depiction of history than this whale turd of a movie.
LeoTheBumTickler! Hey hey Bender over here!
Bender: Ah crap I went to school with that guy.
Phreak Azoith I had no idea the first astronauts were so fat.
"Let's turn on some tunes"
"We're whalers on the"
*Turns off radio*
Never mind
Moby Dick: The Whale Who Lived.
Christina Lacey Now we need an octopus who was secretly in love with his mum, and joined the harpooners.
You just know there'd be Ahab/Ishmael slash fiction.
"Did you hear how his mother died protecting him? What a legend he is!"
Well, it worked for Harry Potter.
Touché, JackOfen. Touché.
I guess to be fair, it was also that the baby Harry Potter was able to survive being hit with the killing curse, which otherwise automatically killed anyone it touched. If Moby's mom somehow put a magical spell on the white whale calf, which caused Ahab's second harpoon thrown directly at Moby Dick to bounce straight back and slash Ahab's leg off, then I suppose everyone praising young Moby Dick as an enigma would be a bit more justified.
He became a legend for surving the killing curse
Also worked as a get out of death free card.
Whale that survived
"He's bein' chased by whalers!"
"More like running away, I'd say."
Uh... yeah, Storm. That is generally what happens when you're being chased by something... you run away from it....
"Only men make whale into monster?" I thought men make whale into fine lamp oil?
This comment is underrated.
they also used whale fat for perfume and their bones were also used to make corsets.
Where I'm from a local Native American tribe hunts whales for food. I'd love to try their whale meat someday.
Ropes?
Bombs?
Dude! 🤣
To quote an infamous raccoon "This movie is sooooooo stupid."
He he he he
"He's all wet! He's completely useless now! Hyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!"
This movie is on water. It's completely useless now! Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
Queequeg: I think I'll adopt him and take him with me. hehehehehe(bobs head)
Or to sell that stupid kid as a slave.
Because Moby Dick is such a kid friendly story! I'm surprised no one ever made a kid friendly "Of Mice and Men" movie, where Lenny has a smart-alec talking mouse and no one dies.
Master Farr
He's just a bumbling idiot?
"I dropped the rabbits, George and they hopped away"
Nah, it's the Golden Films version where Lennie just has hair over his eyes and bad posture, which he immediately fixes before getting married to Curly's Wife, Melody, and her talking rabbits who won't shut up about inane bullshit.
Iamafishproductions You have no idea how much this thread, but especially your comment, made me laugh.
I'd swear that they'd make an animated kids movie of the works of Marquis de Sade if only he had included some animals in his original books.
The sad part is I can actually imagine that existing as some 90s animated film, especially the part about the talking mouse
Sounds like the type of film I would have encountered as a kid back then after channel surfing and the only thing I would remember is the comic relief animal
I am going to admit a revenge story where it turns out that they actually killed their target the entire time and are going mad on a foolhardy mission to kill them sounds like an excellent set up for a story. Could end with him losing his ship, his crew, crawling up on a shore only to find the dead corpse of his quarry long since dead. Though that is WAY too dark for a children's movie... well way too dark for a non-Dingo Children's movie.
The Dingo version would probably play the "womp womp wah" music as Ahab finds the bloated corpse of Moby Dick while crawling onto the shore. (Right before he passes out from pain.)
There's an issue of Marvel's What If where a different person inherited the powers of Nova and went on a long killing spree to find the one who murdered their husband. ...Only for it to be revealed that the perpetrator died months ago when he lost control of his car speeding away from the scene of the crime.
In the original book, Queequeg's fellow harpooners were a Native American man named Tashtego, a black man named Daggoo, and an Indian man named Fedallah. But the other harpooners in this movie are Ahab himself and some random white guys. Shame, since this was such a faithful adaptation otherwise.
They whitewashed Moby Dick?!
I'm not sure it's a case of whitewashing, so much as it is just laziness and apathy. "We're already butchering the book, so why bother fleshing these guys out? And if they're not going to get even the bare minimum of characterization, why give them a different skin color than the rest of the inconsequential extras?"
Of course, the above scenario assumes they were thinking at all. Given what a disasterpiece this was, that's rather doubtful.
BilboKoira PFFFT - That's it! The SJWs need to completely remake Moby Dick with an all female cast and only throw ONE male side-character in there but have him be a complete idiot who's all looks and no personality! Also every line of dialogue MUST revolve solely around gender and/or race. And anybody who says the film's bad is automatically a "sexist pig" regardless of whether or not their criticism is accurate. It'll be the PERFECT adaptation! (insert obvious Ghostbusters reboot joke here) XD
@@EagleTimberWolf how are we sure the whale was male anyway? The things that make you think..
Really, Queequeg, Ahab, and Ishmael are the only Pequod crew they KEPT in this adaptation! Everyone else is cut out! Even the white sailors here are clearly not the same ones as those in the book.
So Ishmael is Ralphie from The Magic School Bus. Miss Frizzle, this is the weirdest field trip ever.
I knew I should have stayed home today.
At my old school, whaling wasn't a subject.
According to my research, this was a terrible idea
"Oh bad, oh bad, bad, bad, bad!"
"No froo-froo symbolism here, just a good tale about a man who hates an animal." ~Ron Swanson
Seems like an appropriate quote for this version.
I can kinda understand making Ahab worse than he was in the original novel (since whaling is considered far less acceptable now than it was when the book was written), but did they really have to reduce him to a caricature of himself? Disney made Frollo more evil in their _Hunchback_ adaptation, but they didn't turn him into a one-note stock villain.
Sorry, hit by accident.
Frollo was way more individually evil in the original Notre Dame de Paris novel.
Eh, the Moby's Mom's death was less of a Bambi's mom and more of a crappier version of Littlefoot's mom death.
The mom is just seen giving a dumb advice to her kid, while a boat of whalers is passing by. Moby just try for it and she doesn't hold him on, so she atones for her stupidity. Nothing of value was lost in the eyes of spectators. Definitely cannot be likened to Disney parent death.
Oni Queen we can all agree that there are many deaths of a parent of an animated animal protagonist that are much better than the death of Moby Dick’s mom.
@BilboKoira What is your Icon anyway? Lagoona Blue fused with Ariel?
The death of Littlefoot's mom actually made audiences feel something because they took time to establish how much she and her son cared about one another. This butchering of Melville's work had her getting killed right off the bat, before you have any reason to care, and the voice acting was so bad you couldn't really tell if Moby was sad or not
@@tommydeonauthstheouterids9641 Looks kind of like Serena from Pokemon.
The real-life story of Mocha Dick, the whale that Melville’s novel was inspired by is actually quite sad. Mocha Dick was kind of like the Django of the whaling world, sinking numerous whaling ships and no doubt preventing the deaths of several of his kind, I like to think that he knew what he was doing, more than just attacking possible threats.
Kinda wish someone would make a movie about that. Have Tarantino direct.
Wait. Was that actually real?
@@Tareltonlives They actually did. It was called "In the Heart of the Sea". It actually starred Chris Hemsworth and Tom Holland and was directed by Ron Howard. It was a box office flop, unfortunately. Probably why you haven't heard of it.
@@dreamquesttv That's because it wasn't from the whale's POV
I thought it was also inspired by a real incident where a whale rammed a waling ship to sink, leaving its crew adrift on the smaller skiffs before they turned to cannibalism and died?
Nothing says "family entertainment" like an animated tale about obsession and hunting of a whale that sounds like a sexual innuendo.
wstine79
And killing God.
Don't forget religious references.
As soon as you said sexual innuendo I was thinking about the homoerotic barely-subtext.
Exactly.
wstine79 exactly it's the classic tale of a sailor looking for some big white dick
Wait, so because his mom got killed, Moby is too scared to breach? AKA go to the surface to breathe? If he never goes up for air then how is he not dead from lack of oxygen?
Will, there's a simple explanation for that.
Breaching means when whales leap out of the water a la Shamu (they breach the surface). Sometimes, whales just swim up and take a breath without breaching.
Maybe it’s a Jacob’s Ladder scenario.
@@lillianward2810 what's Jacob's ladder?
@@lillianward2810 Moby never returned from Vietnam
"The lesson is... never try" OMG I laughed so hard. And next time he tried he got pretty much the same result! :D
3:30 "Moooom."
Mooooom, your death is embarrassing me!
Parental deaths are always the most embarrassing...
"I'm the oFfIcIaL rOyAl OrPhAn~!"
We interrupt this movie to show you the Land Before Time
@@penny1545 Except the death scene in The Land Before Time broke my heart. This one just broke my laugh box.
Poor Moby's mom.
"People say the world ends at the horizon"
Yes, I'm sure that was still a commonly-held belief in _1841_
You say that but flat earthers.
@@gregorymelissinos337 Who are a tiny minority.
''I can defy gravity!''
The Adventures of Young Elphaba
Well, Wicked and Moby-Dick are both notorious for their perceived gay subtext, so...
+realitywarper93
Wicked is also notorious for its lesbian and bisexual subtexts.
I kinda used "gay" as a catch-all.
Also "defying gravity," is a great thing to teach a creature that weighs 35-40 tons.......as a calf........
I remember renting this on VHS as a kid from the local library once, and then being confused that Moby Dick wasn't a friendly whale when discovering the original story. XD
I've been staring at the title for 3 minutes in disbelief.... Just...No. why? how?
This movie is the Antilogic Equation.
Tuvok at the end of Voyager went mad because he saw this movie...
Next up - Crime and Punishment, for kids.
Dante's Inferno, for kids.
Lolita, for kids.
The 120 Days of Sodom, for kids.
Lady Marmalade Jack the Ripper, for kids
Lord of the Flies, 1984, A Clockwork Orange... for kids!
17:15 "He's being chased by whalers!" "More like running away"
um...yes, thats what "being chased" would entail. You're trying to run away from the people chasing you....
Wrong! He's swimming away.
@Master Farr
People who have no idea how to write a story.
This is a perfect example of: If you have a book of classic literature, and you want to make an animated feature for kids, based on it, and there's adult scenes in it that need to be edited to make them more kid friendly, if you can't figure a way to do this in a way that doesn't completely change the story, you shouldn't even START the animation project. Some change is acceptable in adaptation. BUT when that change alters the entire point of the work of the book, that's a problem.
The point is that you should still tell the story that was in the original book. If you have to "update it" and change the message of the book. IE. The humans are good guys in the book but we need them to be villains now because we like to protect whales now and the movie will upset people, then... don't make the damn movie. Or if you do, make it right and tell the original story. Don't change things. Tell the story FROM THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT and make that PLAINLY CLEAR. Making these alterations ultimately destroys the entire story most of the time. That's the problem that most of these book to movies miss. HISTORICAL CONTEXT!!! Let's make Quasimodo the hero who everyone loves at the end!! Let's make Moby Dick and Ishmael and all the whales and the whalers friends!!! No!!!!
It's ok, you can say Hunchback of Notre Dame
Wish Disney had that in mind when they made Tarzan and Hunchback
@@Tareltonlives nah
@@Tareltonlives you...really are a buzzkill
I pity anyone who got the birthday card one, imagine that one kid’s face when they open it up ONLY to see this flick
[face falls, slowly trudges away to return BigGeek2256's special b-day card]
[sad Charlie Brown music plays]
If you're gonna introduce kids to Moby Dick why not at least track down the Wishbone version, Remember Wishbone? The dog with the spot over his eye connecting the problems his master is going through to a classic story. And also everyone dies in Moby Dick except Ishmael, and as someone who has read the full unabridged version of Moby Dick, the actually story is like a third of the book, the other two thirds are all about how to kill, process, and melt down blubber into oil and which whales produce the best oil with Sperm Whale oil out of the head being the best, and all the tools you need to properly chop up and melt down your whale. you know for kids.
Ah, whishbone. I miss that show.
I'm gonna go wag another tale, and sniff out adventure with wishbone on the trail. I just have to ask...what's the story, wishbone?
Fuck yeah Wishbone!
Tadicuslegion78 Oh man... I need to watch Wishbone again...
I thought that was only in one of the Wishbone spinoff books, not the show
Tareltonlives I didn’t know Wishbone had books!
5:00 Hey the barrel was already pre-murdered before Queequeg showed up... it's a frame job!
BUT!!!!!.......making things logically flow is HAAAARD......
Because that was what the story of Moby Dick was missing, Moby Dick suffering from PTSD because Captain Ahab killed his mother and going to therapy to get over it. I also wonder if this was the movie that the people who made the theme park on the moon in Futurama, which is why they have a ride featuring a song about whalers on the moon?
We're whalers on the mooooon!
I like how young moby did the "mom" whine in a way that perfectly reminded me of that one Skippy and Slappy episode
rickpgriffin oh yeah 😆
Hey, are you the real Rick Griffin or are you a fan?
@@vincenthawthorne9360 It's the real me
Moby's mom. She's... (SOB!)
I was expecting for Moby to sing "Part of your world" for some reason
Stop ripping off the wrong cartoon, you lout!
@Latvian Dragon I wasn't talking to you.
I was like "OH NO is that the super dark, bloody, depressing Moby Dick cartoon that traumatized me as a kid?!" But then it wasn't. Seriously, check out the Danish movie Samson & Sally. There, the whale Samson swims through the blood of his family, Moby Dick (who lives in Atlantis!) is senile and as far as I remember dies of radiation and later Samson almost chokes by an oil spill. Movie is also post-apocalyptic, with parts of the USA submerged. All accompanied by an innapropriately comedic whale hunter.
I remember seeing that before! That was a weird one.
...WHAT. There's another foreign cartoon as balls-out batshit as Tentacolino?
I actually have that on VHS. It's definitely a dark and depressing watch and I saw that one as a little kid.
You saw it too? I thought I was the only one!
Man, Samson & Sally used to scare me as kid :-O
Can't wait for other magical cartoons like:
The tale of young Stalin
the magical adventure of young Hitler
and of course
Young Freeza.
Nurse Valentine Omg the magical adventure of young hitler?! 😳🤮
I can actually see Akira Toriyama coming up with a "Young Freeza" story.
The Wonderful World of Manson: All Aboard The Helter Skelter
...
I’m so sorry.
Well, no one's adapted Grant Morrison's _The New Adventures of Hitler_ yet. The comic's not magical in itself, yet Morrison dabbled in chaos magick, so...
Young Frieza sounds like the name of a rapper. XD
7:52 We *urp* gotta hunt a whale, Morty
I seriously some times wonder how it was to work on these productions. It's all so disjointed, but with sorta lapses of both staying true to the source material then massively deviating into kid-film schlock.
Seems to me like it was just glancing through pages and just replacing adult/mature stuff with the first thing that would come to the mind of the writers
was this early as a Patreon reward?
I'm assuming production went something like this:
Executive: We need a Moby Dick film in two weeks!
Writer1: *looks at book for inspiration*
Writer2: *haphazardly slaps together typical family film plot*
Writer1 and Writer2: *suddenly realize they were supposed to be collaborating and carelessly throw both scripts in a blender*
Animators: *scramble to throw together something that vaguely resembles the script; putting in as little effort as possible because the final cut is due tomorrow*
Voice Actors: *barely give a shit because nobody in their right mind would add this to their resume*
Executive: The Walmart truck's leaving in five minutes!
Anyone who hasn't abandoned them yet: *scribbles out some box art and copies the the film to a disc; then proceeds to throw it out the window into the semi trailer just as it's about to leave*
Executive: Good work. The Lion King's coming out in like, three days from now, so we'll need you guys to stay late for that. ...Oh. And you're not getting overtime.
....drugs
LittleNorwegians Ive turned myself into a whale Morty, IM MOBY RIIIIIIIICK
Ah, Moby Dick, a 19th century version of a whaling docu-drama that could only exist in an era when authors were paid by the word. Perfect children’s movie!
I'm bummed about this film. I thought it'd be about Moby Dick brewing beer
I like how Ishmael looks exactly the same as the kid from Call of the Wild!
Can't wait for one of the Blye Migicovsky movies to have a girl that resembles Angela from An Angel for Christmas...
Master Markus The striking resemblance is perfectly explainable. When Ishmael became captain, he and his crew sailed into the Bermuda Triangle never to return. Everyone onboard the Pequod died, but Ishmael was thrown into a temporal vortex that left him stranded in the Call of the Wild universe. With no way of returning to his own timeline, he was forced to create a new identity in order to survive in this strange new world, and was eventually taken in by the easily-killed-off father who threw his life away in search for operation gold. That's why he quickly got over his dad's death so effortlessly - he had only known the guy for, like, maybe a month or two.
@ILONA Finnish
Heh I like Silver Feral Thunderbird's theory more.
@@EagleTimberWolf now that movie........that movie id watch!!!!!!
We need a cross-over.
4:15 Cannibalism.
You know, for kids.
A FAMILY pictcha!
Ishmael's VA sounds really similar to Carlos from the original Magic School Bus. Yeah, this is just.. surreal.
Ishmael: "Yeah, the crew's dead, but there's no use..WHALING about it!"
(groans)
Apparently, he was voiced by the same VA who played Ralphie. So....the other kid who made obscenely bad puns.
@@andrewollmann304 Raphie was the “Is it just me?” kid. Although I do remember one he made in the rainbow episode.
@@Tareltonlives
Ishmael...
Didn't Carlos high-five him for the pun? @@MaggieOffutt
"The whale is all wet? It's completely useless now. Heeeeeeee!"
wstine79 I thought he was always useless since he lives in the ocean.
Kiara Thompson that's true
wstine79 Yeah crappy useless 🐳😂
We really needed Old Man for this. :(
Brother Malachai Yes, yes we do😔
"Why are we working on a boat for a captain we hate?"
Well, maybe they got knocked on the head while drunk at port and woke up in the ship with no way to escape.
FOR KIDS!
15:00 given that Moby Dick was first near Sumatra in the book and the final battle happened somewhere between China and America, in otherwords the centre of the Pacific ocean and nowhere near the Mediteranian, the whole Atlantis thing is even weirder... Maybe it's the ancient lost continent of Mu? That would explain the Egyptian stuff that's down there too...
So a whale with intelligence greater than the average human and is not afraid to kill to protect itself, somehow translates into a kids animated movie?
Hey Freddy Kruger! Want to be in something more embarrassing than the 2010 movie? Actually as I think about it, that might actually be less embarrassing.
stlouisrocker100 of course naturally.
Teddy, Teddy! Brother of the Freddy!
Yes! Your best type of video! Ripping a cheap cash in animated film! Thank you for this gift!
Love the reference Snoopy Come Home
Sorry, hit by accident.
Oh no, Moby didn't make it, and he crushed our boy!
S Mac the birthday card version is the rare directors cut.
_Eugh, what a mess._
what a mess
I really love that bit at 12:50 where Ishmael fails to climb a 45-degree angle rope ladder and has to rocket off of it like it was the electric fence from Jurassic Park in order to fall overboard and advance the 'plot'.
Also, at 14:51, forget Atlantis, Moby is swimming through *Egypt!* Guess the Nile flooded extra-hard that year, huh?
we need a "What's in Phelan's Closet" because his shirts are the best part
Perfect way to handle the Old man running gag by now, in for a quick reference and immediately out again before he can overstay his welcome with these who don't care for him as a running gag.
Ishmael and Queequeg joined Ahab's crew and went through the whole "I thought he was only hiring one person" story in the book. They...did the same thing when they were younger? Did Ahab forget them in the future? Are we going through a time loop?
Also Queequeg seemingly never aged a day.
I guess being a cannibal paid off after all.
I think this is just a timeshifted version where everything happens in a period of a few weeks between Ahab losing his leg and getting killed.
@@sherlocksmuuug6692 *paid*
0:11 "he is the turd of the deeps"
i love this already
+Rafa Diaz
Terror*
Every kid on the block was going "Moby Dick, Moby Dick, dick this and dick that." My dad said, "can't you just call him Moby Richard?"
A thought ocured to me. Moby Dick is grey instead of white, he loses his mother and later fights whalers... Weirdest reboot ever for one of the Robins, since we can tell this story is about Dick Gray-son. :p
His legal name is Moby Dick Grayson
I find it weird how all three stories on that cover aren't exactly kid friendly.
Good Times....why?
It's the Tipper Gore Triple Feature: don't worry, nobody dies in these versions!
@@scitechian Well... Moby's mom does.
16:22 You know? When Captain Ahab himself is calling you nuts. You've lost control of your life
The relationship between Queequeg and Ishmael is _especially_ icky if you’ve read the book and know that they were in a borderline-romantic relationship (and by borderline, I mean they share a bed and Queequeg says "henceforth we are married" lol)
Truly a wonderful classic.
James Lawman Well he could, its just he'd have to deliberately try.
3:28 Oh c'mon, she's totally fakin' that. But I do love the way Moby says his line. It's like "Maaawwwm, ohmahgaaaaaaawd"
"Mommy !! Oh my God !!!" (to be said in the voice of that guy from the Australian Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde cartoon)
If they're still in business, I want to see these guys adapt Jurassic Park (as in the original Michael Crichton novel). If only to see Phelous riff on it.
They’d probably write Hammond out of the story and make either Grant or Malcom the villain with Lex and Tim helping a baby Velociraptor(who is the main character) shut down the island and free the Tyrannosaurus Rex
And this was from the same set with White Fang and Call of the Wild? Will this definitely be one of the GoodTimes?
At least Old Man appeared a la MK toasty.
AnonJl1
Old Man: USELESS!
Wabuu: Shut up! That gag is soooooo-
Old Man: Quick, Charled! Do something about Wabuu!
Charlie: (dull falsetto voice) Okay old chap.
Wabuu: Huh?
(Charlie lunges at Wabuu's gut, scratching him mercilessly)
Wabuu: aaaaahhhh! My guts!
Old Man: How unexpected! Gotta go!
(Old Man runs off, heeeeeeeing all the way while Charled follows suit. Wabuu is lying down in pain while the Little Angels and Wuschel laugh at him)
Wabuu: Oooohhhh... I'll call you stupid next time, Old Man. NEXT TIME....! (Coughs blood)
Golden Useless...
12:58, Owl: hoot I say Old Man, you should not pick on a defenseless person like that, I think a good lesson is in order here, OWL!!! MAXIMIZE!!! (fires missiles on the Old Man)
Old Man: (Grumbles) doh that stupid Owl I'll make him useless as well, OLD MAN!!! TERRORIZE!!! HEEEE!!!! (Owl and Old Man fights each other while Moby watches).
Moby: whats going on here?
I literally squeaked with happiness when I saw this upload. I LOVE your animated movie reviews! 😊
I can't explain it but I love the terrible good time songs.
I'm gonna start singing "Moby Dick, Moby Dickkkkk" any time I'm slightly inconvenienced.
Ishmael and Moby's moms were both named Martha...so how could they stay mad at each other.
Ishmael vs Moby: DAWN OF JUSTICE
Really says a lot when your version of the story turns a cannibal into the wise old man.
I want to see a review of Sampson and Sally, a Danish animated movie about whales where, I kid you not, they have a song number where two comic relief characters build a human centipede of the Titanic victims skeletons and uses it as a xylophone, and they have a bunch of environmental messages.
Not even a full minute in and I can already tell this is going to be a good episode
Taking *every* opportunity to poke fun at the Dick names.
You're a damn treasure, Phelous.
Awesome review as always dude.
If you want to see a truly atrocious animated movie check out Anchors Up.
It's got talking boats, a rap music scene, evil people who the movie forgets are evil at the end, and even though there are houses stores and markets there are no humans at all in it. Everything mechanical is living.
The boats wear hats and use cell phones!
Moby Dick was based off of a true story. A whale did ram the boat and sink it. Some of the crew got to an island. The captain and some of the crew were stranded in the middle of the ocean in row boats. They started eating the crew members that died. When they eat all of the dead crew members, one of the remaining crew volunteered to be shot so he could be eaten by the others. This young man was the captain’s nephew.
They were discovered and brought back home. The captain’s sister was understandably upset with the captain.
The crew mates that got to the island were found. Something had eaten them and only their skeletons remained.
Yeah those handle DVD cases were really popular for a while. I guess someone decided little kids needed a handle to hold only.
Now all we have to do is wait for Phelan's review of Camelot.
I wanna see review of both, and a 50% discount.
9:59 That's pretty deep for one of these, and I like that they included it and asking what Ahab did to the whale. I didn't see this film though, and I know of better alternatives with the theme I mentioned
Wait, how did the kid get back to the ship? He was on a deserted island with gold and food one moment, and then in the captains quarters, is this the another miracle thanks to that seahorse?
Why did he even go back? He had FOOD AND GOLD. (And someone to talk to, too!)
THE DIAMONDS! MY GOD!
He probably went back to explain things to Ahab and have him call off the mission. But that still doesn't answer how he got back to the ship.
I saw the thumbnail and was like "Oh, that's Queequeg, and Ishmae, and Ahab and WTF is that seahorse thing?"
Can't wait for the kiddie version of To Kill a Mockingbird where Scout has a talking mockingbird sidekick that won't shut the hell up and steals most of the run time.
Between this and White Fang, early Good Times knew all the most kid-appropriate stories.
Can we live in the alternate dimension where Goodtimes made an animated adaptation of Barefoot Gen
The style of the Moby character looks like something from the classic Samson and Sally cartoon (Denmark 1984).
Moby Dick is my absolute favorite novel. I’m so morbidly excited about what this episode will reveal, I can scarcely contain myself.
What's also amazing is that Whinnie can carry / move gold objects that are, of course, quite heavy.
Fun fact the same story is of an albino blue whale that inspired Moby Dick inspired 20000 Leagues Under the Sea
Old man joke at 12:57, your welcome.
"He's the terror of the deep and he stalks you while you sleep."
He stalks you . . . from the deep ocean . . . while you sleep . . . in your bed that is, I'm pretty sure, on land.
that sounds like some kind of miracle to me.
Probably equates to when you're sleeping in the hanger on a sailed ship, though I don't think the song writer put that amount of thought into it.
If his story includes putting out the sun, anything is possible.
14:51 is that Ancient Egypt under the sea?
Juan Pablo of course it is. If linkara has taught me anything, it’s that the root of all evil is ANCIENT EGYPT!
I think they got Atlantis confused with Ancient Egypt.
It definitely sounds like something Goodtimes would do.
Part of ancient Alexandria is under water now, but it still a stupid addition.
Maybe it's the lost continent of Mu.
*Imperial March starts playing*
This always got me...why do people think these dark and often disturbing stories are good for kids? I'm not one for dumbing things down for the kids or shielding them from everything, but doing this IS dumbing a story down. Because often themes that are too dark or adult for kids are essential for the story. Without them, there won't be much of a punch.
2:19 Youngblood's Disease affects even whales!
Honestly, I half-expected Moby Dick to be the captain of the ship at the end.
"Your father...Rest his soul" said the whale to her whale son
*Indigenous Whale Sign starts glowing under the sea*
“He is gone and because you have a good heart you will be protected.”
Moby: 😀
Not to harp on Harry Potter, but since Moby got famous for his mom dying while protecting him, does that make Moby “The Whale Who Lived”?
I guess that would mean Ahab would have to die by harpooning himself. Twice.
Ishmael: "7 days..."
"...since I've left the Beast. Guess he died of loneliness."
11:55 Nice Simpson's reference ya got there. From one of my favorite episodes of that series too, lol.
"B'oh"
It could be worse, the title could be a typo like: The Adventures of Young Dick! Have fun with that one.
Moby Dick!
A kid friendly classic!
Makes sense to be bundled with White Fang and Call Of The Wild!
...Spaderman?
What in the world?
Jenius!!!
Maybe it means James Spader playing Spider-Man?
imagine seeing this as a kid and then getting to high school literature class and discovering what really happened.
Imagine never having to read the original
Wow what a wild review! Love the talking Starfish and seahorse! Your whacky movie reviews are always so much fun! This video is strange as heck. Kiwi quick is supposed to be a villain but they turned him into a surrogate brother type! Talk about Quality reformatting of the story!
If Good Times is ruining classic literature, imagine what they would do to Lord Of The Flies
Make it into a "kids having fun adventures on an island" story like the ones William Golding wrote the story to critique, of course
Caption during the intro: (ridiculous singing from the movie)
Was- was- was- WAS THAT ANIMAL SOCCER WORLD?!?!
"Then I teach you". They're still only hiring ONE deckhand so that doesn't really solve the problem! But I guess it did...somehow.
Moby The Adventures Of Young Moby Dick should’ve just been a crossover between Moby Dick and the musician Moby.
“Extreme Ways are Back again, Extreme Ways At Ahab’s bay”
Here we are now going to the goodtimes side, weapons in hand as we go for a ride. Here we are now going to the Dingo Pictures side, I look a my friends and we hope we won't die.
Glad I wasn't the only one who was thinking about the musician Moby during the whole time.
juan ortiz Glad I'm not the only one either lol.
Harley the Seahorse and Ludwig von Squid are truly the greatest OCs to ever grace a Moby Dick adaption.