The Best Yamaha FZ Made?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2021
- Yamaha FZ1 | I have been looking for a good deal on a Generation 2 FZ1 for a few weeks, yesterday I found one. While the Gen 1 model has some clear advantages, the Gen 2 may be A better fit.
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I bought my 2009 FZ1 NEW in 2010….it’s at 46K miles currently…I did the Vcyclenut ECU flash, Lars air box mod, removed the cat in the header, and installed a carbon fiber GYTR slip on, also plugged the AIS system…..I changed rear sprocket to 40 teeth, down from 45 stock….BEST bike I’ve owned in 47 years….and, I got it for $7400.00 with ZERO miles…😆😆….just change the liquids, tires….I did have to install new fork seals at 35K miles….SO RELIABLE and FAST…I installed Givi hard top case on mine…I would ride this bike ANYWHERE
Hello Martin, 46K for $7400, that bike is treating you well! Sounds like you have really made it your own. How did the tooth drop in the rear change the low end? - Frank
Just purchased a 09 fz1n
Wish I'd got one years ago.
Great bike
Nice vid by the way.
Hello Alex. Thank you. Yamaha makes some amazing sport naked bikes. I have not been on anything that captured that same excitement. - Frank
I have a 2007 Fazer and it’s a beautiful bike, candy red, black and has a factory fitted full lower fairing. Had a quick shifter fitted, de cat with GPR end can (sounds awesome) and put a K&N air filter in. Next thing will be a Power Commander for the icing on the cake! I love my FZ1.
Hello JP, sounds like you really farkled it up nicely. I do like the way the under fairing looks on these bikes. Thank you for watching! - Frank
Great looking bike Frank! It sounds like it is very comfortable to log some miles on. It seems that most factory seats leave something to be desired. I really like the colors of the bike also. Tuning/ synching 4 carbs would be quite the task for sure. Most bike mechanics nowadays aren't familiar with carbys. Great video!
Hello Doc, it's a nice bike to ride for a few hours. I have seen some videos of guys touring distances on them. They are much younger than me 😎
Seats really do seem to be an area where money is saved by the manufacturers... - Frank
Great bike, I bought mine new in 2007, I fitted the genuine Yamaha gel seat, very comfortable, like a saddle to sit on.
I left mine stock, and I just ride it, quick bike.
Hello 9meister, it's a gem of a bike. I have been riding my FZ6 all summer, a great, fun bike as well, but it's not an FZ1! - Frank
I bought my new 04 fz1 in 05 ..saved some $..I paid $8,000 out the door for it..best bike I've ever owned..just over 20k miles on it now..and runs like a scalded ape still..and I've never had more than oil and filter changed on it..well..tires too..
Hello, Yamaha made some real gems.when I hear guys go on about how great the FZ07 and FZ09 are, I feel badly that they have never had an FZ6 or FZ1! - Frank
That's really cool and interesting motorcycle bro. Keep it up and more vidz to come brother. RIDE SAFE ALWAYS 🙏☝️😊💯
Hello RodKris, it was a very nice bike. I did decide to switch to an FZ6. I miss that 50HP, but it's a lightweight bike with insane maneuverability the FZ1 does not have. - Frank
Great looking bike Frank.👍
Hello Glen, thank you I really like the looks of the FZ1. I think they list a lot of their charm, along with the partial firing when they went to 07, 09,10. - Frank
Great video!!, I agree with you, in saying that I have the FZ6S 2 "and I came from liter bikes, my FZ6 has enough power for me, streets.. track, twistys etc.. to be honest, I wouldn't bother changing the FZ6, I've been riding for 22 years :)
The FZ6 is a great bike. I sold mine due to the down low power and better components. Plus I plan on touring with the FZ1 so being able to use soft bags that don't touch the undertail exhaust is a plus.
@@westondifranco9313 Enjoy man!, yes the FZ1 are very tasty bikes indeed! Be safe! 👍🏽👍🏽
There's a reason for it being just as cheap as the gen 1, because the gen 1 IS the best version. Harder seat, more fuel consumption, smaller tank, it's a totally different animal altogether and you're going to regret getting rid of the gen 1
Only gripe is that the gen1 has carbs...more of a headache setting up four carbs and balancing them etc
@@scottb6815 well yeah, that's the only ballache and I'm searching hard for a good colortune or carbtune kit for mine, due to one silencer I have that has buggered up the air and fuel mix, Harris Performance pipe, a bit of a headache but I've heard it's not too hard to do 🤞 the IXIL wasn't and hasn't been a problem, it's just the Harris one that's caused this 🙄but yeah, that's the only 'fault' wrong with it, everything runs smooth otherwise and it's been one of the most reliable bikes around, love it, it could do with the ivans valve kit fix, but really, it's not essential
Looks like another great bike. Fuel injection is hard to beat.
Hello VTrack. I agree on EFI. I know a quad carb is not an issue for many Gen 1 owners. It's just beyond my abilities to maintain. - Frank
Have an 07 considerably modded , so much so I’m not sure how I can justify anything to replace it .Great bikes nice vid ...Be safe
Hello John, I have not ridden a bike that is quite as thrilling as an FZ1. The computers in bikes today seem to mute the experience! - Frank
Just went with a Corbin seat with grabber vinyl on my 2008 FZ1.. Way more comfortable than the stock seat.
Hello Breakneck, Excellent. Have you had an opportunity to ride it for multiple hours? If so, how did it do? - Frank
I bought a Top Sellerie seat for mine and is sooo comfortable I can ride all I want, without any discomfort!
@@Dirtywhtboy87930 Thanks. Always looking for opinions of aftermarket seats. It's an area where manufacturers seem to cut costs. The FZ1 Gen 1 seat is the last comfortable OEM seat I have used. - Frank
I did the carbs on my 01 it wasn't too hard, I found the hardest part to be getting the carbs back into the intake boots ya gotta push hard even with lube.
Hello Steve, you are braver than I am! Just looking at the carbs tucked in there makes me nervous. The thought of removing them and working on them. Yikes! - Frank
FRANK !!! - What a beautiful bike - I bet that thing just hauls ass !!! - Side note, I know the inside of the carb on THE MIGHTY SUZUKI DR 650 like the back of my hand - BUT.... I could not even imagine how difficult it would be to tune 4 carbs !!!! - Hell, remember the old Honda CBX - inline 6 !!!!! damn !!!!!
Cheers !!!
Well said OBI! Synching 4 carbs sounds no bueno for sure! The Honda CBX would be a bear to tune! Cheers Bro!
Hello William, I am always happier with EFI. I needed to rebuild my KLR650 carburetor, and it was not difficult, but even TWO would be a NO GO for me! Carbs belong on thumpers only! - Frank
Hello Obi-Wan, those Japanese singles have nice carburetors you can get to! I rebuilt a KLR650 carb, it was not bad at all. - Frank
Great video, I had changed from a 2006 fz6 to a 2014 fz1 with only 4000km on it a couple years ago. Great bike, better in every way. The one down side is that it does everything so well it might lack a bit of character. The slip on helped ( Leovince), but the extremely tall 1st gear mean less running it through the gears then I would like.
I have only had one long overnight trip so far ( About 1000km each way) and found it comfortable. I have put a slightly taller wind screen and a set of pilot 5's and should be good for a long time now. Debating the gearing change to a 16t on the front but am a bit concerned would hurt touring range per tank.
I would like to do the ecu flash to derestrict the first 3 gears, but being my only bike and not super strong mechanically a bit nervous to send my ECU away and hope the bike runs ok after I get it back.
Hello Michael, thank you for watching and commenting, now forgive me as I am selfish and ask a few questions ;) I actually picked up a 2004 FZ6 yesterday! I need to tire ship for it, as the tires are past expiration. (A Shame as they only have 1K miles on them, the bike has 3700M / 6K KM)
How do you like the Pilot 5's? I was surprised at how different the gearbox is from the FZ1, not in a bad way, just different. Changing the gearing seems like a solid idea. Thank you, Frank
@@OneOldManRiding awesome I loved my fz6. I put a pilot 4 on it when I had it. The 5s are great too. Good rain traction and from reviews short of track days should be good for almost anything.
@@bainer66 I just put on the new Road 6’s on mine. Still breaking them in.
Man it is definitely worth getting the ecu flashed on my fz1 2009 I got it tuned and flashed it gained about 15horsepower after a k&n filter full titanium exhaust and was way smoother after the flash I also changed the gearing with great results
I've owned both. Still have my 2009 FZ1 86k on it love this bike. I have a feeling it's going to grow on you the more you ride it.
Hello James, I am riding a 2004 FZ6 now. I am not going to say its a better ride than the FZ1 platform, its not. But its a ton of fun! - Frank
This engine is the 04 -06 r1 engine tuned down. I have a 08 r1. Thats derestricted and tuned. What a machine if the fz was unleashed this thing would be insane
Hello Creedmoor, The R1 must be insane! The FZ1 is already able to well over the speed I want it very quickly. Yamaha really knew how to make an inline four. - Frank
You need to look harder at the cost of rebuild carbs. Not that expensive. I had a 2007 fz from a gen 1. I will take gen 1 every time. Wheelies better too. Gen 2 disappointing. Put bigger sprocket, still wheel heavy. Your right comfort not there. Gen 2 maybe little faster but gen 1 lot more fun. Sync carbs and your good for a while, and more enjoyable. I switched and still regret it. I tried several other bikes but always came back to gen 1.
Hello Paul, I agree than the Gen 1 is a lot more comfortable, and fun to ride. I enjoy the feeling of extra weight and comfort of a Gen 1. - Frank
You needed seafoam. I have an FZ1 2004 with 90,000 miles .I livening Alaska so there is lots of down time. I now have a 2008 fz1 with a full yoshimura too.
Hello Michael, I would not have thought that Alaska was a state to find an FZ1 rider! All we see down here about Alaska roads is how rough they are! How does a full Yoshi system change the bike? - Frank
Realizing how cheap I am, I bought a nice gen 1 that needed some normal servicing.
I have to say the gen 1 is a phenomenal bike. Fast, comfy, and can do twisties or tour.
Its a shame yamaha doesn't make an MT10 tracer, or touring spec, version of their MT10.
Hello Weston, I actually prefer the FZ1 to the MT10. Both looks and ride. Its probably a placebo, but I feel the Electonics getting in the way of my riding! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding No worries. The bike is still amazing. And a wind screen extendor is $20.
I have to agree. An fz1 can be found for $3000-$6500.
An mt10 isn't worth twice the price for what you get.
Hello Weston, it's probably because I am old, But the raw feeling, without rider aids makes the FZ1 exciting. The Mt10 is great, but I felt my hand being held. - Frank
@One Old Man Riding Nah, I'm 28 and love it too haha.
My only two street bikes have been a 2009 FZ6, and a 2003 FZ1. I love an old, analog, beast.
New bikes are cool, but too many electronics.
Hey, the puig windscreen is racing or touring? Looks good
Hello Raimonds, it's a Touring screen. Works wonderfully at keeping the wind off toubat speed, while not being too big. - Frank
Subscription done!!!
Hello Kim, thank you so much for stopping by, I appreciate it! - Frank
Would you recommend this bike for daily commuting?
Hello Teo, certainly. I have ridden to work dozens of times. With the caveat of it being relatively dry, it's pretty powerful for west conditions! - Frank
Is it a good bike to do long miles for example new jersey to florida?
Hello Fudenciojp, I do not want to think so. It's an mildly aggressive upright seated position, and the seat was designed by an inhumane person. I expect your joints would sugger trying to ride that far! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding cool thank you I will get a super tenere!
Getting it next week they are very comfortable!
Do you think the gen 2 is worth the expense to a gen 1? I am looking at an FZ1 for my daily and touring bike. And the gen 1 is a better bike for touring but I'm not equipped to do an inclined 4 carb clean/ sync.
Hello Westo, my Gen 1 needed carb work. It took me three tries to get a shop to agree to do a rebuild. They would not give me a price, saying it could be a time sink, just a rough estimate.
If, like me, you cannot maintain the carbs yourself... I would recomend a Gen 2. It's not as comfortable, but EFI is going to give you less headaches. - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I'm not equipped to do carb work. So fuel injection it is. I like the comfort ergos on the gen 1. But I want to ride it, not work on it. So that seems like the way to go.
@@westondifranco9313 Thats pretty much the conclusion I came to as well.
Just budget for a seat for the Gen 2! It's not comfy at all! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding Time to start selling internal organs haha. Those seats are pricy.
What year FZ1 is that? I have a 2006 in liquid silver.
Hello Mark, It's a 2007. Should be identical to yours. Not sure what year the gold forks stopped... - Frank
I have a 2003 it's not fuel injection but I really don't see much of a difference
Hello Wille, hope you are enjoying the Gen 1, it's certainly an amazing bike. A few months out, my feeling is that for me, the Gen 2 feels more nimble. And I really like that. However, I have never adjusted to just how uncomfortable the Gen 2 is on longer rides compared to the Gen 1.
I absolutely see myself with another Gen 1 eventually.
You can't get these under 6
Hello Steve, I was not able to find any older models in good shape. There were numerous 2010/2011, usually in the 6800-10K range.
If I was not lazy there were numerous less expensive ones in the South East. - Frank
Covid tax , the types of bike's I was looking at have gone up $2000
@@johndekkers6024 I was checking prices in South FLorida last week. They are up for sure. Best pricing was over 4K. Locally, here in NY, its 5K - Frank
I just paid 5k for a 2009 fz6 in mint condition w just 1400 miles. In as good a condition as it is, i still think thats too much, but older models w 20k miles are selling at 3500 so i took the dive
@@ArpusTTcansuckit Hello Daan, Thats an amazingly low mileage. Though this is a rock solid engine, I had no problems buying one with 22K on it. I have run into a fellow with over 60K, and his bike ran as well as my buddy's 12K 2012. - Frank