I was able to pick up a used XR10. Full rebuild in the works (stock parts are increasingly hard to find but not impossible), including a bunch of parts from Dlux Fab. Love the performance of the MOA, just a whole different beast!
Yes happy to see this returning!!! I still own my axial xr10 and a enrout berg, your build looks alot like the berg. Have a nice crawl, greeting from Wim
I've been running a Bully2 from RC4WD for about a year now and would definitely like to see how one could mix the throttle to under/overdrive. Currently have it done with tuning in each individual ESC. Great video! Can't wait to see what you come up with!
Still got my old Berg crawler running a Del Monte chassis. I dug it out last year and cleaned it up, the Panther tyres had split but found you can still buy Hot Bodies Rovers.
Just when I thought my r/c urges were under control, you show me this! I've asked about the MOA in the past and now I have to see what money I have spare and where to get this...
Harley I love this build! Not area I am normally interested in but after seeing this man love it! I can’t wait see you run it! I love the weight for wheels wish they do that styl for our other rc! I got set of club5 foams with weights I know spinning mass but they work good! Harley keep up the great videos bud! I enjoy your channel soooo much! You never lead me in wrong direction! Thank you!!
Awesome!! Can’t wait to see what you do with the radio and also what size and where you run the battery. I just programmed my 4PM and 7PX to my Bully. I think I got it right but it’ll be nice to see how you do it. The issue I’m running into is my battery. I have a 3s 850mah Tattu battery and my driver side tire rubs when I turn
Seems like we've been here before. My issue with MOA is unless you have some really challenging terrain they're just not a lot of fun. There's no challenge on basic courses where center drive trucks have to plan and execute your lines well. For many of us we just don't have the type of terrain available to make MOA a lot of fun. Hence why I sold my XR10 after only 6 months. Think this is similar reason I see many barely used SCX6s for sale, just not enough challenge to be fun.
Downgraded my scaler for the exact same reason. Stripped away everything unnecessary, lcg rails, ultralight body, etc. Could get up everything that wasn't steeper than 80 degrees, boring as, completely stopped playing for a year. Reset to the original much heavier body, took out lcg rails, added original parts back, added a lot more scale elements, added lights, little accessories. Crawls much worse, but much more fun. A lot of obstacles actually require skill, momentum, timing, going slow, going fast, finding the best lines. Cheater rig had 0 skill.
When I was researching optics for my first build back in the day I was always thinking motor on axle instead of minute of angle. I obviously don’t get to spend enough time at the range anymore.
I am definitely looking forward to seeing you get to run this , You seem as excited as a young boy getting his Rc for Xmas getting ready to go drive the heck out of it , I personally like all sides of Rc I choose to stay in my lane so to speak , I can’t wait .
Just wondering, I would really like to purchase one completely built ready to go because I’m 70. I don’t have the patience to build them anymore. Please send the link here.
Hey I know this is older but is this type of comp style very popular now adays and what do I Google to find out if there is any n Ohio thanks Sorry for the newbie questions but I find these to be very interesting since I laid eyes on one
Minutes of angle. Also known as 1/60th of a degree. A common unit of measurement used in shooting, but also used in some other facets of engineering, construction, ect. My guess is what you're referring to is RC related though. lol
Over the last few years I have wanted to build an moa,but I have been to scared to its mainly the electrics set up,I have built 3 lcgs 1 is a 4ws which I have really enjoyed,I am planning 2 more lcg builds and then I will do a moa build then panic when doing the electric set up,as where I live there isn't any moa comps or any other comps I will only be using it for fun like all my other RCS,love the videos please do a video on how to set up the electrics in detail
Move over, a-hole? JK. I, for one, am so damn intrigued by MOA rigs. Any chance Vanquish is going to do a chassis at some point? Seems like the market is wide open for them right now.
I’ll be completely honest, I’m only watching this video to help support the channel. I have no interest in these wheeled robots, but I’ll watch regardless.
Using conditions on the futaba, how many different over or under drive settings at the push of a button can you have? I think using conditions 4 is the limit?
Because it’s adding weight where it isn’t needed. You want to keep the trucks as light as possible while moving the center of gravity and weight bias where it’s needed.
I have the rc4wd bully 2 would of been nice to know this was out there and it's not that bad of price since I had an xr10 with all the vanquish parts you can get and that was way more money wish I still had it since it got stolen
At one time a euro company made parts to take losi worm axles to moa. I had the kit but never built it. Eventually sold it. Regret that decision greatly
Is there a rough set of guidelines available for rigs like this? Ballpark values for: Wheel/tire size, wheelbase and width, articulation; lot or less. Stuff like that.
It’s a common placement, keeping the weight low is the highest priority and since it’s in the front it’s usually easy enough to steer the tires where you want them. But they will get some rash.
Well I guess I will buy some dlux gear sets for the xr10 on my shelf. What is the weak link on those axles? What is the performance differences between the Beetlejuice 4 or the T1E chassis? What chassis is best for xr10 axles? Can Nabil come on again after you are done and critique it
I don’t know what the weak link on these axles will be, the shafts are MASSIVE, And gears look good. Performance should be similar to the old XR days but will a little better weight distribution now. Chassis have been simplified is all.
Whoa that bad boys is not cheap lol. But omg the thing looks amazing and very well built. Guess if I ever get an moa crawler it’ll be the rc4wd bully 😂
Yea bullies are trash. Rc3wd has next to zero support and when (not if) the gears die there are no replacements available. You can beef up the shafts and knuckles with dlux parts but then you're within a couple hundred of building berg in the first place.
@@scourge18a New? No but there are thousands and thousands of sets of V1 berg axles out there. I've owned a few sets, I still have a set sitting here. They're outdated but completely upgradeable through dluxfab.
@@catiachick the euros and the aussies make up like 98% of the class. Not many in the states give a rip. I get it, its basically a middle finger to sorcca and their pageantry.
Yet, it's picking up slowly. Crawling needs something. It's like when it went from a huge moa market to scaler. Some always comes along. It's like you're saying that everything is good. Yet there are other always trying to improve and create. But I like this mindset. Thats why people push past those limitations and improve and create.
I’m also building an Moa right now. Question, do you know if I’ll be able to mix with my flysky gt5 or am I going to have to get something else that will work with the dual esc’s? Those axles are beautiful I wish I found those when I bought mine. 🤦🏻♂️
GT5 is a great radio for the money but unfortunately it can do dual ESC mixing. I ended up getting a Futaba 4PM and it’s been working well with my Bully 2 so far. Some Spektrum radios will work too The GT5 is now used my by son and also still functioning perfectly
Hi grate truck like to c how u built the wheels we can still get them tyres over in uk we run our bully 2 n burg tracer with no shock oil just dab for look them is that a new company buildin kits im very much into them it totally difrent drivin to trail trucks like c more on them hope Nicole is back on Fridays she make it fun to watch m8 👍👍
I’m running my setup based on the advice of Nabil who has been one of the top competitors for many years. I was going to run 30 and he was pretty insistent that I switch to 25wt. I can’t imagine running without fluid at all though.
@@HarleyDesignsInc it dos work quite well very flexible no resistance I just put a dab on them so they move freely we’re can I get 1 them kits n what sort price r they love to c how u did the wheels n tyres on it I watch all urs n mats videos there grate keep them comin m8 👍👍👍
It was released in the late 2000’s and I ran one back then but didn’t like it. The original designer was named Jason G and he had DNA produce them first.
yes you need to glue those into place, tiny dab of shoogoo/E6000 between the cone and rod end, mines lasted since 2011! Didn't i get those from you/Vanq back in the day? Kitty Butt Challenge..... $100 says my old POS XR10 will come in higher in the Finish than the new rig your driving, Bully axles Vs. Axial axles. What do you say? Challenge Accepted?* *This Challenge is mostly for fun, but we will exchange $.
i cant seem to find a vid of u running it seems like u didint post an update about this moa :(
Where is part 2?
My first rig was actually a MOA. A Redcat RS10, but still a MOA, it was cool the way it worked. I turned it into a 6x6 and sold it.
I was able to pick up a used XR10. Full rebuild in the works (stock parts are increasingly hard to find but not impossible), including a bunch of parts from Dlux Fab. Love the performance of the MOA, just a whole different beast!
I’m excited to drive it again! Hopefully it’s like riding a bike!
@@HarleyDesignsInc Should be a fun series, looking forward to it, as well!
We need a new episode😎
I didn't know Aaron Rodgers was into crawlers🤔🤔🤔I knew he was one of my favorite Quarterbacks for a reason 🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯
Yes happy to see this returning!!! I still own my axial xr10 and a enrout berg, your build looks alot like the berg.
Have a nice crawl, greeting from Wim
I've been running a Bully2 from RC4WD for about a year now and would definitely like to see how one could mix the throttle to under/overdrive. Currently have it done with tuning in each individual ESC.
Great video! Can't wait to see what you come up with!
Oh damn, thats pricey. And i hesitated while looking at the RC4WD Bully, this is almost three times that much.
Brings back memories of 20 years ago when we used to mod clodbuster axles..
What happened to episode 2?
I am definitely going to love this series thank you for doing this I've always wanted to build one of these
Still got my old Berg crawler running a Del Monte chassis. I dug it out last year and cleaned it up, the Panther tyres had split but found you can still buy Hot Bodies Rovers.
Man, Panthers are a throw back!!
Bringing back memories..... met you at the Ocoee the second year it was there.
The old Harley is back.
After such a long time of see you talk about "crawlers" (aka scale trucks), you finally got back to a comp crawler!!!
Welcome back man!!! 😁
I hope I remember how to drive them!
@@HarleyDesignsInc looking at you driving the scale comps I'm sure you didnt forget!
Next is a asilum shafty and a Super?! 😁
Thanks for breathing life into 2.2 pro
Thanks for sharing this . I've been wanting to build an MOA truck for a minute. I will be ordering this kit
great video!!! what happened to this build?
Just when I thought my r/c urges were under control, you show me this! I've asked about the MOA in the past and now I have to see what money I have spare and where to get this...
Hell yeah! Been waiting for this series.
Throw all the "cheater" rigs in the trash for some real performance ;)
All these scalers aren’t looking much like scalers anymore anyway!
I cant wait to see that "robot" perform! I'll probably get one sooner than later!
Harley I love this build! Not area I am normally interested in but after seeing this man love it! I can’t wait see you run it! I love the weight for wheels wish they do that styl for our other rc! I got set of club5 foams with weights I know spinning mass but they work good! Harley keep up the great videos bud! I enjoy your channel soooo much! You never lead me in wrong direction! Thank you!!
I’ve seen those weighted foams, not something I’ve jumped on as it doesn’t seem to fit my style. This definitely a bit of a different level!
Awesome!! Can’t wait to see what you do with the radio and also what size and where you run the battery. I just programmed my 4PM and 7PX to my Bully. I think I got it right but it’ll be nice to see how you do it. The issue I’m running into is my battery. I have a 3s 850mah Tattu battery and my driver side tire rubs when I turn
I'm just looking to get back into the hobby. This is definitely a goal once I've built my basic crawler
Seems like we've been here before. My issue with MOA is unless you have some really challenging terrain they're just not a lot of fun. There's no challenge on basic courses where center drive trucks have to plan and execute your lines well. For many of us we just don't have the type of terrain available to make MOA a lot of fun. Hence why I sold my XR10 after only 6 months. Think this is similar reason I see many barely used SCX6s for sale, just not enough challenge to be fun.
Downgraded my scaler for the exact same reason. Stripped away everything unnecessary, lcg rails, ultralight body, etc. Could get up everything that wasn't steeper than 80 degrees, boring as, completely stopped playing for a year.
Reset to the original much heavier body, took out lcg rails, added original parts back, added a lot more scale elements, added lights, little accessories. Crawls much worse, but much more fun. A lot of obstacles actually require skill, momentum, timing, going slow, going fast, finding the best lines.
Cheater rig had 0 skill.
I can only try to understand about not having the terrain to make capable rigs fun.
Back to the roots, I'm so excited 😊
Yes, yes I do know what MOA means. Bring that to Lincoln. Love the comp stuff again Josh.
Motor on axel. What is IOW?. So next hype thing 1/24 moa rig?
I was thinking "Minute of Angle" at first...maybe I should spend a bit less time shooting and more time on RC lol
When I was researching optics for my first build back in the day I was always thinking motor on axle instead of minute of angle. I obviously don’t get to spend enough time at the range anymore.
Dang I haven't built a comp crawler since 2013. Looks fun to watch
I am definitely looking forward to seeing you get to run this , You seem as excited as a young boy getting his Rc for Xmas getting ready to go drive the heck out of it , I personally like all sides of Rc I choose to stay in my lane so to speak , I can’t wait .
This is more of where I started, and I’m excited to do it again!
Dlux Fab great products I have run their shocks on most of my comp trucks. would love to get one of those super lites some day
They’re a pretty rad axle!
No follow up vid?
I found a video that he got caught cheating in competition 😢
What really?
What? Really?
HELL YES !! Love MOA's. Next step is a SUPER MOA !!! I have some new Rover in my garage.
I may still sneak a super in!
@@HarleyDesignsInc YES !!!
Curious as to why you did not continue with this rig
Just wondering, I would really like to purchase one completely built ready to go because I’m 70. I don’t have the patience to build them anymore. Please send the link here.
What's the required pinion module to match the transmission gear ?.....
For the GT3 I made a micro bypass using Holm hobby schmatic
Hey I know this is older but is this type of comp style very popular now adays and what do I Google to find out if there is any n Ohio thanks
Sorry for the newbie questions but I find these to be very interesting since I laid eyes on one
Moa stands for “minute of angle” in my world lol
The GT3 is awesome on my MOA THE VOLTS AND AMPS ARE SPECIFIC
This style of crawler takes me back to the silly putty and clod axle days
JB Weld and flipped spider gears!
Can you please show more about the wheels, or lack there of. Is ot just a rim face with no barrel?
It’s pretty wild. I may grab another set to have another set of tires and if so I’ll do a video.
That’s a nice build
Never made it to an Episode 2 ??? Did it ever run ?
That bug has bit me also but somehow missed my wife...love your work !!
Looks
Like a very good rig. Can’t wait to see what it can do
Minutes of angle. Also known as 1/60th of a degree. A common unit of measurement used in shooting, but also used in some other facets of engineering, construction, ect. My guess is what you're referring to is RC related though. lol
Over the last few years I have wanted to build an moa,but I have been to scared to its mainly the electrics set up,I have built 3 lcgs 1 is a 4ws which I have really enjoyed,I am planning 2 more lcg builds and then I will do a moa build then panic when doing the electric set up,as where I live there isn't any moa comps or any other comps I will only be using it for fun like all my other RCS,love the videos please do a video on how to set up the electrics in detail
I miss doing the 2.2 pro class. Sweet rig, but pricey.
Can't wait to see the Sporty build!
I’ll have that video up next week.
Just what my son and I are looking for
Move over, a-hole? JK. I, for one, am so damn intrigued by MOA rigs. Any chance Vanquish is going to do a chassis at some point? Seems like the market is wide open for them right now.
its like a battlebot without weapons
I’ll be completely honest, I’m only watching this video to help support the channel. I have no interest in these wheeled robots, but I’ll watch regardless.
What if I put a Ranger badge on it?
@@HarleyDesignsInc I might come around to the idea a little.
Best title! I started in the old comp days in 2007 with an original ax10 scorpion 🦂. Don’t listen to Matt l, comp crawling is fun too
The Scorpion days were good days!
How is it a "truck"? You can't help your friends move with that thing! Pretty freaking neat!
I always call rigs cars and people yell at me for that too! 😁
Looking to get into MOA’s. Kind of a newbie to competitive crawling. Scale stuff doesn’t intrigue me at all. Any tips for where to start?
Pretty awesome. Y'all have a badass day 🤘
Still have my axial XR10 MOA RIG
It was my last one, I had fun with it for sure!
Using conditions on the futaba, how many different over or under drive settings at the push of a button can you have? I think using conditions 4 is the limit?
Looks some what like a buggy definitely looks cool but the three screws holding the wheels on is giving me a ocd over load lol.
All about the weight savings 😁
Where can I get that hat feller?!
very new to rc can you put bb's in the tires or water like a tractor?
We used to do that way back in the day but it’s not the best method now and isn’t done any longer.
Why no hangers in the rear.. it would still help...
Because it’s adding weight where it isn’t needed. You want to keep the trucks as light as possible while moving the center of gravity and weight bias where it’s needed.
I have the rc4wd bully 2 would of been nice to know this was out there and it's not that bad of price since I had an xr10 with all the vanquish parts you can get and that was way more money wish I still had it since it got stolen
Back in the day, these were called clodbusters 😆 In all seriousness, it’s funny to see how Tamiya made an impact on a lot of surface RCs
Yeah we started with clods in the early days of crawling!
This build would result in divorce. $1100 for the basic kit.....
Divorce? Mine would put me under the stairs to starve to death ☠️
What size foams come in the kit? There's 5.5 and 6 on the site.
I want to ask you bro is it possible to fit hobbywing 1080 esc to bully 2? Thank you 🙏
sweet looking rig make me want to get into comp crawling
At one time a euro company made parts to take losi worm axles to moa. I had the kit but never built it. Eventually sold it. Regret that decision greatly
Is there a rough set of guidelines available for rigs like this? Ballpark values for:
Wheel/tire size, wheelbase and width, articulation; lot or less. Stuff like that.
I’ll try and find the WRCCA rule set and link to it in the next episode.
Question... Why it called 2.2
The diameter of the tire bead is 2.2”
This servo was sticking out a bit much at the bottom or it just seemed like that? Won’t it catch?
It’s a common placement, keeping the weight low is the highest priority and since it’s in the front it’s usually easy enough to steer the tires where you want them. But they will get some rash.
Yes you are supposed to glue the link sliders
I had to assume so!
Well I guess I will buy some dlux gear sets for the xr10 on my shelf. What is the weak link on those axles? What is the performance differences between the Beetlejuice 4 or the T1E chassis? What chassis is best for xr10 axles? Can Nabil come on again after you are done and critique it
I don’t know what the weak link on these axles will be, the shafts are MASSIVE, And gears look good.
Performance should be similar to the old XR days but will a little better weight distribution now. Chassis have been simplified is all.
I’ll have Nabil on again for sure. He’s the one giving me the setup tips as well.
Wooooohoooooooooooooooo inwatched the whole thing
Whoa that bad boys is not cheap lol. But omg the thing looks amazing and very well built. Guess if I ever get an moa crawler it’ll be the rc4wd bully 😂
I went deep for sure, but if I was going to spend all the time and money to travel to nationals I figured I may as well build the best I could.
@@HarleyDesignsInc after looking at a few reviews of the bully 2 I think you made the right decision 😂.
Yea bullies are trash. Rc3wd has next to zero support and when (not if) the gears die there are no replacements available. You can beef up the shafts and knuckles with dlux parts but then you're within a couple hundred of building berg in the first place.
Can you still get berg axles?
If so, where?
@@scourge18a New? No but there are thousands and thousands of sets of V1 berg axles out there. I've owned a few sets, I still have a set sitting here. They're outdated but completely upgradeable through dluxfab.
I want to see a 4 wheel steering setup for the trx4 line.
buy a front axle housing and axles. The portal gears from the rear will work on front. 1tenth makes Servo on axle mounts.
Good to see you messing with 2.2 pro again. Maybe we'll see you build a p scale. That would be sicks.
P Scale?
Performance scale. It's a made up class, basically a C2 with no scale points.
@@trashypantsyota well there is a rule set and guys are building rigs for it. Just an evolution of the hobby.
@@catiachick the euros and the aussies make up like 98% of the class. Not many in the states give a rip. I get it, its basically a middle finger to sorcca and their pageantry.
Yet, it's picking up slowly. Crawling needs something. It's like when it went from a huge moa market to scaler. Some always comes along. It's like you're saying that everything is good. Yet there are other always trying to improve and create. But I like this mindset. Thats why people push past those limitations and improve and create.
I’m also building an Moa right now. Question, do you know if I’ll be able to mix with my flysky gt5 or am I going to have to get something else that will work with the dual esc’s?
Those axles are beautiful I wish I found those when I bought mine. 🤦🏻♂️
GT5 is a great radio for the money but unfortunately it can do dual ESC mixing. I ended up getting a Futaba 4PM and it’s been working well with my Bully 2 so far. Some Spektrum radios will work too
The GT5 is now used my by son and also still functioning perfectly
@@vaa1976 I figured as much. Well thank you for the tip bud, just placed my order for a F4PM. 💪🏼
Hi grate truck like to c how u built the wheels we can still get them tyres over in uk we run our bully 2 n burg tracer with no shock oil just dab for look them is that a new company buildin kits im very much into them it totally difrent drivin to trail trucks like c more on them hope Nicole is back on Fridays she make it fun to watch m8 👍👍
I’m running my setup based on the advice of Nabil who has been one of the top competitors for many years. I was going to run 30 and he was pretty insistent that I switch to 25wt. I can’t imagine running without fluid at all though.
@@HarleyDesignsInc it dos work quite well very flexible no resistance I just put a dab on them so they move freely we’re can I get 1 them kits n what sort price r they love to c how u did the wheels n tyres on it I watch all urs n mats videos there grate keep them comin m8 👍👍👍
Moa = “Mothers Of Alaska”
Is this real? 😁
@@HarleyDesignsInc haha we’ll never know.
Sweet rig 👍
Unfortunately I am aware of what moa means 🤣 Not for me but it’s an interesting build to watch 👍
What size pinion for the motors?
I bought a wide range of pinions but haven’t made a final choice.
@@HarleyDesignsInc thank you for the response!
minute of angle - MOA
This is one I’m also familiar with 😏
Where's the driver sitting 😂
This ain’t scale builders guild
Minute of angle
My second favorite meaning of the acronym.
Moa is straight up pull your Man card...
I was thinking of doing one with the fusion pro instead
There have been some brushless builds but not as many for sure.
@@HarleyDesignsInc could always go revolvers😁
There are multiple moa. Meanings
Have you ever run the mantis chassis?
It was released in the late 2000’s and I ran one back then but didn’t like it. The original designer was named Jason G and he had DNA produce them first.
yes you need to glue those into place, tiny dab of shoogoo/E6000 between the cone and rod end, mines lasted since 2011!
Didn't i get those from you/Vanq back in the day?
Kitty Butt Challenge..... $100 says my old POS XR10 will come in higher in the Finish than the new rig your driving, Bully axles Vs. Axial axles.
What do you say? Challenge Accepted?*
*This Challenge is mostly for fun, but we will exchange $.
it's a beautiful beast man
Motor on axle either super cheesy or super gnarly
That’s insanely accurate!!
I have a berg moa with novack dig metal axle super fun and capable
an lcg aint a moa there diffrent classes and one moa axle is just as expensive as two lcg axles. al depends what your williing to spend i guess