It's also interesting to consider that the reason why the Aten became so popular during Amenhotep III's and Akhenaten's rule may have been political moreso than spiritual since Amun's priests in Thebes held an immense amount of power. The pharaohs at the time would've needed to stay on their good side and try to appease them. By demoting Amun, the royal court stripped the Amun priesthood of that power and by making themselves the only conduit between the human and the divine, they conferred it on themselves. It's kinda similar to how Henry VIII made himself head of the Church of England after splitting off from Rome. Political and spiritual power combined in one office and one person. Of course, though, we can't know Amenhotep III's and Akhenaten's exact motivations and a lot of Akhenaten's actions do seem to suggest that he did actually believe in this new religion of his so it may have been a mix of the two or it may have started out as political scheming under his father but then turned into genuine belief under Akhenaten. It's impossible to know but it's fun to think about.
NeonKitty, I think you may have stumbled onto something. Amun's priests did have immense power. Also, under the Amun priests they believed in more than one G-d. Polytheism. Akhenaten didn't bring about monotheism as we know it. Akhenaten only believed that Aten was the only G-d worth worshiping. The clerics didn't like this. The clerics even arranged the murder of Akhenaten. They did arrange for Tutankhamen to become a Pharaoh. Then the religion moved back to what it was before his father saw the light. By the way, when funds went low, the clerics robbed the pyramids and the royals. The only one's untouched were Aktenaten and King Tut. His son. And his wife.
I don't doubt he believed in it strongly. If he threw the old gods out at all, that is true dedication. Changing his name also indicates this. Also, the priests not only saw this as an attempt on their power, it was, but they also would have seen it as an abandonment of righteousness. The king had thrown out God, basically, and embraced evil. Harlan Abraham, love your name!
@@Svensk7119 I mean, he doesn't seem to have denied the other gods' existence, he "just" stopped worshipping them and closed their temples (thereby stripping their priests of power). But yeah, like I said, I do think Akhenaten probably believed in his new religion (the hymns he wrote for the Aten certainly sound like the words of a true believer). But Aten had already started becoming more popular under his father Amenhotep III and I wouldn't be surprised if that rise in popularity (that eventually led to Akhenaten believing in it) was politically motivated. And some of Akhenaten's religious decision-making may have been influenced by political concerns, as well, even if he truly believed in his new doctrine.
@@neon-kitty I am sure. I just think it is a little cart-before-the-horse. If he truly believed, his political motives would have come from that. They would have reinforced his religion. His father appears to have been slightly lazy, in a poetic sense. (My opinion only, a'course). He fell into one habit of address, when there were so many poeticisms in the language. Maybe he was religiously big for his britches, but that is pure conjecture. Number IV, however.... he went the whole nine yards. And twice again! He sounds like a convert, and there is no zealot like a convert. Changing his name? Check. Altering religious conventions built over centuries? Check. Restructuring his court to accommodate? Check. These drastic changes all sound of conversion. Perhaps he had these beliefs in situ for sometime, but Something had to change for him to bring them forth. The other thing he seems is a narcissist. All he did made himself more important. He seems to have been some degree of unhinged, as well. Somewhere between Sadam Hussein and Adolf Hitler, though I mean that for unhingement only. I have heard nothing of him being murderous.
@@dylanhunt5655 sadly it's true we blacks have gone through merciless humiliation and enslavement for thousands of years and it will continue to be so until we all perish. First it was the Arabs the ' Arabisation', then the ' whites' did it again I guess we were never meant for good things
@@AAA-be6wk no need for insults am pretty sure I know enough plz remind or give me a brief history about Africans ruling the world, no doubt the Nubians were black, Egyptians were mixed sometimes African( 25 dynasty) rulers sometimes Arab rulers still are ppl suffered the most compared to other races but plz point me or show me to this evidence that Africans were once mightier than the Greeks , Arabs, provide facts not hearsay .
@@thenostalgicsidekick3076 I'm trying to be patient with you but the depths of your ignorance is mind-boggling. I don't have the time and it's much to teach you the thousands of years of African history true history. The Greeks and the Romans studied at the feet of the Africans in Kemet the land of the blacks. Also Europeans studied in West Africa which I haven't mentioned any of there kingdoms or dynasties the Songhai Empire to the Great Zimbabwe. It's so much information I do not have time to post it. Let me give you some books and authors to help you eliminate your depths of ignorance and bring you into the knowledge of Africa. We'll start off with Dr John Henrik Clarke Dr Cheikh Anta Diop Dr.Yosef Ben jochannan Dr runoko rashidi Dr Tony Anthony Bower.Dr Ivan van Sertima.. I have more. These are qualifying linguist anthropologist physicist an Chemist you also may want to check out Dr Gabriel Oyibo some of them also have videos this is enough information to keep you busy for a hundred years. Maybe the next time you post something it won't have so much ignorance. There were tens of thousands of years African dynasties before the Greeks ever existed when they were in the hills and caves of Europe walking on all four eating their food Raw. I'm pretty sure you're heard of Neanderthals I also know of the history of the Europeans
Interestingly, the art from the Akhenaten's time is placed in a separate room in the Egyptian Museum on Tahrir square in Cairo. I wonder if they put it similarly into an isolated room once the museum moves to its new building near Giza plateau.
Regarding the "art style" I always thought he was just depicted realistically... The pharoes were notorious for inbreeding, a deformed frame like that wouldn't be entirely impossible
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Such solid content here - thanks! I tried to visit Amarna while I was visiting Egypt several years ago. Sadly, it's pretty much only possible if you pay off-duty police/soldiers to accompany you. Ditto with Nag Hammadi.
Thank you! Yes I've heard that it's very difficult to get to Amarna, even for archeologists? I had a professor once who specialized in ancient Egyptian language and he was only allowed to visit the site for a few hours.
@@LetsTalkReligion Yeah and apparently it's getting harder and harder. Daesh, may their name be erased, has gotten bolder especially in the Sinai and the interior is pretty unsteady. I expect - with profound disappointment - that I'll never safely be able to visit most ancient near east sites in my lifetime. It's such a profound loss for all humankind and the tragic and sinful result of my country's foreign policy.
Imagine the scandal in his day... that even slaves could be rays of the one God. Imagine all the living self proclaimed gods from their past and present being demoted as even equals of non Egyptians. As in all cases religion is political, faith is a different story.
@DCE Faith in a religion is STILL FAITH and STILL RELIGION. Never forget that and do not be so haughty about your personal judgements like who is talentless and who is moronic.
This revelation is invaluable to me. Thank you for your work. It’s like Akhnaten was a royal lightworker. Ra as a literal sun god vs. Aten as divine light.
Came for the Egyptian heresy, stayed for the nutty comment section. Between the new-age Aten worshipers, the Egypt was African folks, and pyramid skeptics I'm having an absolute blast.
@@mattobu6554 The Kingdom of Kush ruled for a while, not really sure that means "Africa" conquered Egypt, "Africa" only referred to what is today Northern Africa, there was almost no contact beyond the lands of Ethiopia, most of Africa was totally separated from the North for most of history. I don't even get why anyone would try to claim it, there are amazing African empires and complex cultures that existed throughout history, I think everybody just likes the Great Pyramid of Giza. The Copts don't even get their due anymore, everyone fights over the heritage that rightfully belongs to them.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 if egypt had no contact with lands beyond (i assume you mean further south than) ethiopia, i need you to explain the habit of egyptian priests wearing the same leapoard skins as zulu priests. that you dont get why anyone would talk about it it speaks to your own bizarre behavior. egypt is an african country sharing memetic connections to it. what is bizarre is the notion that something else is true here in the 21st century. to acknowledge ancient egypt as an african country is not a denial of any other wonderul achievements in other african countries, but rather to put it in it's proper cultural context
I remember back in the 1990's that National Geographic did a whole magazine on the African Pharoh's. There are multiple countries within the continient of Africa
It's crazy thinking how much of our own human history we know about. I yearn for knowledge of the old world but who knows if we'll ever fully understand it. Anyways, great video and keep up the great work! I going to be one of those proud earlier subscribers once your channel blows up!
@@bigshow2cool actual not lies at all. But truth..lol. sadly we are the ones misinformed probably by non believers etc they like to say its lies because frankly that's what they think. I don't go by what peole think but what is true and proven as fact. Bible has proven to be God breathed. I mean that is so cool and nothing in the world is more special then that. Watch Case for Christ if you want truth.
@@SleazyRider86 I can say the same for you...hahah. to say we have the knowledge is simply not true...the fact is we will never know. But to claim you have all the answers pretty ignorant. Because nobody knows everything.
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I've always thought that most of Akenhaten's reforms reeked of someone wanting to undermine the power of priesthoods and other power structures that he (possibly) felt had gained too much power. From the possible worship of his powerful (and thus likely respected) father, the exclusion of a priesthood in his new religion to the herculean undertaking of building a new administrative capital (which I would deem more easily defended) my admittedly layman opinion is that it's an avenue worth investigating. Remembering that these societal structures weren't completely uprooted and seemingly instituted a reasonably extreme damnatio memoriae after reinstalling themselves after his immediate successors, it's really no wonder why his reputation is lousy. That being said it is extremely likely that the complete societal upheaval resulting from this proposed war against the theocratic organisation would have prevented him from being a competent ruler.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 religion has always been a powerful political too, perhaps the most powerful one. It is said that the best way to control a population, is by controlling their thoughts and actions. Aka mindcontrol. Thus you have a large army at your disposal. Look at christianity and Islam, hinduism as well. Old pagan religions shows the same.
@@lioness6853 Hinduism was never united and endlessly persecuted because they were never the aggressors. But it is uniting and waking up against this persecution due to the advent of the internet and connectedness.
@@lioness6853 It was not unity as much as the pursuit of truth. The lay people prepared a framework to quell their thirst for meaning and called it religion. But the true spirit of hinduism is in discovery as opposed to dogma. Sure, people will believe in infinite deities but never ever was it forced upon. And I think it was a good thing. The scientific progress in Hinduism was tremendous. Even Ramanujan believed the goddess passed him the theorems in his dreams. Goes to show a genius is not tied to his religion or beliefs.
I too feel a special affinity for Akhenaten, his family and the fascinating Aten. The ankh symbol and the hands at the ends of Aten's life giving rays say so much these thousands of years later. IMO the depiction of the Aten is truly universal symbolism that lasts forever.
@@grose2272 Additionally, everything is made of light. If subatomic particles are broken down to smaller and smaller parts, photons which are packages of light, are found.
Did you know "rose" that Akhnaton re-incarnated in recent times and did actually do the same - creating a new capital city ? a vision completed in only 3 years against the will of the country's inhabitants. he had the help of Ja-im hatap , reincarnated at the same timespan. a even more controversal theory to delve into is " the cloned akhnaton." there is althoug a dark aspect one has to considder talking Akhnaten and can not be dismissed , akhnaton determined way to create a new capital and a new religion "heliopolis -tel el amarna and the worship of the athen " left egypt devastated and in ruin , and u can imagine the people"s rage towards akhnato'n s followers and servants after the priests gained back power it was a sad dark page in history that can not be forgoten ! but hey , he came back and completed his heliopolis so ....... he was killed again but hey ... he completed his task
Egyptologists ignore every evidence that points to Akhenaten being an openly Lesbian Woman. They had to find other explanations to her feminin features and blame her worship of the Sun as the reason the Patriarchs burried her ideas. It makes no sense.
I really enjoyed your videos on Akhenaten. Maybe it's already been mentioned within other comments, but in the 1980’s Ra the Law of One communicated much on ancient Egypt, including their state of pantheism and some interesting words on Akhenaten, which I feel amalgamates to your research. Many thanks
Yes! I was hoping someone else would mention the Law of One :) I think it is also important to mention the prophecy that Thoth spoke to Asclepius in ‘The perfect sermon’.
Excellent episode. I have often wondered about a possible connection between the monotheistic tendencies of Akhenaten and change to monotheism in Judaism. This is the first show I have seen in which it is mentioned and your mentioning of the similar texts is new information for me. I have always looked at the chronology - the Jewish population in the Levant was polytheistic to a point just after Akhenaten's reign, then it adopted monotheism. Any Jews in Egypt during his reign would have been exposed to monotheism. The migration of the Egyptian Jews to the Levant happened about a century later (c1225 BCE if I recall correctly) which coincides quite nicely with, i.e. preceding the transformation from polytheism to monotheism in Judaism. I am certain there are many published papers - scholarly research - on the topic that would be fascinating to read.
Brian Smith The Jewish religion was always monotheistic. They only worshiped one G-d. The creator of everything. If they believed in multiple G-ds then they could not have been Jewish.
@@harlanabraham7772 even in the Bible they had to be told to stop worshiping their other gods. And they were still doing sacrifices to them. In the Bible. So
@@harlanabraham7772 Where did you hear that? There’s extensive documentary evidence of polytheism. They even combined their preferred parts of elder storm god El into younger warrior storm god Yahweh, maintaining the fatherly aspects of El while keeping the aggressive warrior tendencies of Yahweh. This is easily seen when comparing the different aspects of god just in the Old Testament. And don’t get us started on his (basically erased from history) wife Asherah.
Thank for this video on a subject that has fascinated me since childhood. Just for your information, I just celebrated my 69th birthday. I can offer an explanation regarding Amarna art and its differences from the idealizations that characterized traditional Egyptian art. One of Akhenaten's epithets was "Living in Truth". Therefore, being depicted realistically in art was important to this pharaoh. The art however did change from exaggerating Akhenaten's physical traits in the beginning to a more natural depiction later on. The famous head of Nefertiti is an example of this final phase. To change the subject a little, I've been currently studying the Zoroastrian religion which I and others believe appeared as early as 1700 BCE. The focus on light in both Akhenaten's faith and that of Zoroaster, or Zarathushtra in the Avestan language, is very interesting. Zoroastrians often pray outdoors in the direction of the sun. And, of course, in the fire temples, they pray towards the fire which is a sacred element of creation representing the god Ahura Mazda's wisdom. The fact that solar worship existed in many religions throughout history shouldn't suprise us as life wouldn't exist on this planet without the sun. Forgive me for expounding so extensively. Your videos are always intellectually stimulating for me. Plus, I enjoy sharing some the things I've learned in my previous and current research. Cheers!
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The importance of the actual light that sustains our ability to live over personification in deific representation is perhaps the first 'scientific' understanding rather than to be understood as religionist - at least in that past of the World
Your videos are important. I thank you for this knowledge. We live in a world where we are attempting to get rid of history. It does not matter if the history affects the agenda of others. Historical fact is more important than traditional beliefs . Thank you
Thank you for your unbiased and informative approach on all the various religions you describe. Appreciated. Please do a video on pagan, Slavic, Celtic, etc., ...if you are interested. Either way, well done, and thank you.
It would be interesting to speculate what if Akhenaten's new religion had taken more of a hold for a much much longer period of time...perhaps the whole subsequent history of religions, at least in the Middle East and the Western world, would be quite different!
It did. Read thru the lines. This is the start of Old Testament and Hebrew religion. It’s also Christianity. He claimed to be the son of the sun. He got rid of all gods like god coming down and banishing his ppl
As indicated in other comments, a follow-up subject would be: "To what extent did mono- or heno-theistic Atenism influence early or proto-Judaism?" After Akhenaten's death, followers of his 'monotheistic' religion may have been forced to flee...and the next country over is Canaan. Some, including the psychologist Freud, have tried to connect this era to the Exodus narrative. However, Moses was not a historical figure (while his name is similar to that of the earlier Pharaoh Ahmosis I, this may be coincidental) and there is no archeological evidence for the Exodus narrative. This explanation also fails to include the various Canaanite gods (El/Elohim, Ba'al, etc) which play an important role in the Old Testament stories. Still, Egypt ruled over Canaan during Akhenaten's reign, so presumably Canaanites were strongly exposed to his religion during that time. A henotheistic or monolatrist form of Canaanite religion may thus have formed in Canaan via standard religion syncretism, without the need for any migration per se. A fascinating topic! Thanks for the video.
I personally think we can rule out the fact that Atenism was henotheistic, consider how in that time the names and records of other gods were wiped and discarded and weren't allowed to be worshipped, he didn't exactly ever deny their existence, and what is the definition of henotheism? The belief that there is more than one deity but only one of them is supreme, the others are worshipped but not to the extent of the supreme one; but then comes monolatriesm, i think this is the more likely, consider how like i said Akhenaten didn't exactly ever deny the existence of the other gods, he just didn't allow it and refrained from worshipping anyone but Aten. Of course this is just my opinion.
Thanks for sharing this info. In my opinion, the theory that there may have been some connection between Atenism and early/proto-Judaism is way more plausible than a lot of people admit.
I'm new to the channel and after watching 3 videos you've earned a loyal subscriber. I appreciate people who put effort into their research and are very informative so thank you
I one have a novel where the main characters got time traveled into Akhenaten reign. It narrated the struggle between the old religion and the new religion, with some usual weird quirk like introducing modern technology to the ancients and stuff. But I've lost the novel some years ago lol.
Thank you so much for the video. I'm currently really interested in Aten and through your video Ive learnt a lot. Even if English is not my first language, I understood almost everything.
I love how the Assyrian king who sent his representatives to Egypt was like "My brother in Assur, you are literally forcing your men to die under the Sun by building a nonsensical temple."
I knew about Atenism and Akhenhaten but Aten being about the Light rays rather than the Sun disk being the true form is totally new to me and blew my mind, as someone interested in Jewish, Christian and Islamic mysticism... but this adds to my idea of a common Religion of Light. This idea of the Light (Nur) and Truth (Haqq) being emanations of a single reality beyond time and space reminds me of Kabbalah, Esoteric Christianity, Spiritual Shi'ism and Manicheanism... the parallels are obvious. There must be universal truths and tendencies within mankind.
According to twelvern Shia Islam, it was the presence of the Prophet Joseph in Egypt during that time that lead to the monotheistic movement of Amenhotep the 4th. There was a show created in 2008 called "Prophet Joseph" which tells the story of Joseph through the Quran and Islamic traditions.
Brother, do you know if the hadiths ever tell us his name? I am not sure if this akhenaten is him or not because Joseph peace be upon him is dated to around the old kingdom or second intermediate.
@@servantofthemostmerciful7985 i dont know if there is hadist or not, but there was a link between the story of prophet yusuf and the story of akhenaten. I dont know the armana city is the new capital or the place that akhenaten build for yusuf relative that come and life in Egypt for the prophet yusuf a.s has a higher ranking in that time that would be possible i think.
What a fascinating channel you have, great work !!! thank you very much for sharing. Here's some episode requests for u, u might be interested in: Suhrawardi and Illuminationism Mulla Sadr Din Shirazi Hafez Shirazi Rumi & Shams Tabriz Al Ghazali Imam Al Shadhili Al Hallaj Perennialism & Rene Guenon again many thanks and all the best to u.
I believe Akhenaton was a wise ancient soul who was signifying as the embodiement the perfect balance yin and yang male and female as one wholeness and the love/light the of all life..not one gender or the other but the unity...the one pure consciousness that is the all..thankyou for sharing..
This is actually a fascinating Islamic belief. As Muslims, we don’t believe that Prophet Muhammad began Islam. Islam, isn’t named after him, like christianity and Judaism are derived from particular people. The core Islamic belief is that the one true God, inspired different people from every single nation throughout time. To call to worship, only one God, and to disregard the belief in false idols etc. that’s why Islamially speaking, the core belief of monotheism, has never changed. “We sent a messenger to every single community, saying, ‘Worship God and shun false gods.’ Among them were some God guided; misguidance took hold of others. So travel through the earth and see what was the fate of those who denied the truth.” Quran 16:36. “And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) but We revealed to him (saying): None has the right to be worshipped but I , so worship Me (alone and none else).” Quran21:25 The word Islam means to submit your will to the will of your Creator. And a Muslim is someone who has submitted their will to the Creator. However, people think it means prophet Mohammad initiated our faith. Which no Muslim believes. It’s apart of the core pillars of the faith to believe God sent thousands of different, inspired men to their people to call to the One true God. There were African prophets, European prophets, Asian prophets etc. And this Pharaoh man could have been one of them. “There are messengers whose stories We have told you already and others We have not. “ Quran 4:164 God has always inspired certain individuals in every single community with the call to worship the one true creator, to their people. A lot of people wouldn’t follow them and they were shunned from their communities and only had maybe a handful of followers. God tells us why He at one point in time favoured the children of Israel over other peoples this is because from all the messengers & inspired people God sent to their nations, the Israelites were the only ones at the time that actually followed that guidance, that’s why God favoured them and sent them so many miracles and blessings. “O Children of Israel, recall my blessings upon you and that I [once] favoured you above all other beings.”Quran 2:47 In the Quran, God tells us the prophet Muhammad was the seal of prophethood, after revealing to thousands and thousands for centuries and to every community. The message of one God can sometimes then be found, in some ancient literature. “Muhammad is not the father of any one of you men; he is God’s Messenger and the seal of the prophets: God knows everything.” Quran33:40 There’s always been one religion. But then it broke down when people deviated from the guidance sent with the messengers. For example, Muslim believe God inspired Jesus and chose him and sent him to His people, bring his people back to the correct path “He will send him (Jesus) as a messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make the shape of a bird for you out of clay, then breathe into it and, with God’s permission, it will become a real bird; I will heal the blind and the leper, and bring the dead back to life with God’s permission; I will tell you what you may eat and what you may store up in your houses. There truly is a sign for you in this, if you are believers. I have come to confirm the truth of the Torah which preceded me, and to make some things lawful to you which used to be forbidden. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. Be mindful of God, obey me: God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him- that is a straight path.” Quran 3:49-51 Because the children of Israel, didn’t follow the continuity of God’s guidance and rejected Jesus. “God said, ‘Jesus, I will take you back and raise you up to Me: I will purify you of the disbelievers. To the Day of Resurrection I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieved. Then you will all return to Me and I will judge between you regarding your differences.” Quran 3:55 God inspired certain upright individuals in their communities and entrusted them with calling their people to worship Him alone. Later on, people have taken them as a God instead of the True God who sent them.
@@per-netjereweclectickemeti93 The art and architecture was really beautiful. And it's amazing to see so much unearthed and better understood. No sane and moral person should find religious persecution as a good or beautiful thing. Nor did I state it was beautiful. I can't wait to learn more from this unique and unexpected period in human history.
Dude, Gandalf kicked his arse and rode his corpse down a cliff like a bogan on an Esky lid going down a sand dune. He then stole his light bringing abilities.
This was around the same time that prophet Joseph(as) came to become the governed of Egypt and hence influenced Amenhotep IV to become a monotheist, in which Aten represented the One God
Egyptian writer Naguib Mahfouz, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature, wrote a novel about Pharaoh Akhenaten titled "Akhenaten: Dweller in Truth." In it, a man interviews members of Akhenaten's former court to try to find the truth about the late Pharaoh, only to find that each individual has a different viewpoint, a different truth and a different story to tell.
That's really interesting. If I were to let my mind wander, I would imagine that the idea was definitely radical and had positive effects on society, being a God to ALL beings, not just to specific people, and also showing signs of affection to family has benefits to society. I also couldn't help but think that he insisted his body be represented in a more true realistic manner rather than the standard perfect manly body which we know pharaohs who ate well never had... But yes, this will be deemed heresy since the other gods/patron-saints already have a dedicated following
The priesthood were his enemies... who later on killed Akhenatuns son TUTHENKHAMUN, just a young child and reopens the polytheistic temples. Taking control!
Hi, you say there were no priests of Aten, but on the map you presented, and I've found online there are priests houses and there is a 2nd in command priest Panhesy, he had two houses, one in the city center and the other near the temple of Aten.
If you're going to worship anything religiously, the sun makes the most sense. 1. You can see it. That's a one up on pretty much every other god. 2. It's warmth can be measured and used to our benefit. Another one up on things like the holy spirit. 3. It's absolutely essential for life on earth.
And this is precisely what the ancient pagan priestclass did.. the mistook, or inverted spiritual truths for the material i.e. believing the earthly sun to be (a) god. See, people are evidently blinded by their own materialistic mentality, never coming to the truth - that this world is not what it seems [1 John v. 19].
She is not a man, she is a female. Her crime wasn't Monocrap, her crime was being openly gay married to a female, getting pregnant in unknown way and revolutionalizing Egyptian Social Construct. Those were her Crime and the Patriachs took extreem measures to bury her ideals. You can call her the Ancient Egyptian Feminist Leader.
From the Law of One 2.2: “This entity, Akhenaten, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the Law of One. However, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The peoples continued in their beliefs.” Akhenaten was taught by Ra that above all gods of religion (ET) stands the One Infinite Creator from which all emerged and to which all return. The One Creator is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.
Hmm, makes me wonder if Jews came about from trying to centralize religious power in one deity and in turn political power, because the Jews and canaanites were once one people and that could be the reason they spilt.
Correction: read the Bible please. Caanan is Ham's son, inhabited Africa, like Egyptians and Cush. Jews come from Shem. Academics nowadays are profoundly antisemitic: be aware if this. Also, I think that the flood caused great displacement of people, that explains what the Canaanites are doing in a territory that wasn"t originally theirs. That is what Melchitzedek talks about with Abraham. Abraham comes from Shem.
I came to know about Akhenaten in an Iranian sitcom depicting the life of Prophet Yusuf or prophet Joseph. I also found out him in the Quran and how he helped Prophet Yusuf.
The timeline doesn’t work...Joseph more than likely came into Egypt around the 18th dynasty when the Hyksos controlled upper Egypt...1700s BC...he was only three generations removed from Abraham, who lived roughly around 2000BC The new kingdoms 15th dynasty, from which Akhenaten derived, was more than likely around the exodus..give or take a century, lol
@@mccalltrader Joseph has been thought to live 15th-16th century BC. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were all at old age when they had their respective sons. (Jacob had many kids, but not with his favourite wife Rachel. Later, she did manage to bear a son).
It would be an interesting video, one dedicated to delving into the history of the notion of the monotheistic/polytheistic conceptual pair. As briefly broached here, it seems to me (someone without scholarly research, of course) to be a rather "abrahamic centered" notion, the application of which to many other religious creeds is not without considerable difficulty (take hinduism, for example, as mentioned in another video, or candomblé with its many orixás that are celebrated but that recognizes a single supreme creator).
It depends on when Zarathustra lived, which is a point of contention. Some place him around the time of Akhenaten, others much later (as late as 7th cebtury b.c.)
No Zoroastrianism is as old as 3000 BC and was the religion of the Indo-Iranians (Aryans) and inspired the Vedas in India. The rules and written concept however was first forged by Zoroaster who himself lived way before Akhenatan around 1500 BC!
Theres an interesting lingusitic relationship between ancient egyptian and Somali.. for example the word for sun in Somali is Qorah and the sun is Qorahda..in ancient egyptian the sun God is called Ra Horahthy..very close to the Somali Qorahda
@@memcrew1 you're correct, the Somali language is the most documented language of the Cushitic branch of the afroasiatic language family, and it's the only Cushitic language that is a formal national language of a sovereign country (Somalia), it's also a national language in Djibouti and a regional state language in Ethiopia So yh, since Somali is a Cushitic language of the afroasiatic language family, its linguistically related to ancient egyptian which is another branch of the afroasiatic language family..so there will be a lot of similarities in words Somalia is also considered by many to be the ancient Land of Punt..the pharaohs called this land their ancestral land of origin..so it could be that the similarities between the languages may also be due to having very close ancestral and genetic relationships between ancient Somalis of the land of punt, and ancient Egyptians
@@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Ok, Somalis and Ancient Egyptians are genetically related too, and have no genetics relationship to the rest of Africa. My understanding is Put is Lybia. Can you expand on Put?
@@memcrew1 yh, Somalis and ancient Egyptians carry the ev32 sub clade of E1b1b y DNA.. found also in north africa and in sudan ..but Somalis carry the highest frequency of E1b1b dna in the world (you can check the distribution of e1b1b on websites like eupedia) I'm not well versed on Put, some biblical description of put/phut says that they were the people of Ethiopia, linking it to the horn of africa ..but a lot of descriptions also link the region to libya or somewhere in north west africa ..apparently phut or put was a son of Ham, the debate is mainly about where this region was..unfortunately there isnt any archeological or scientific evidence to solve this conundrum ..I'd kind of hazard that it may have possibly been either the horn of africa (the land of Punt is very close to the name Phut or Put, and some biblical narratives state that Phut was in Ethiopia), or in north west africa either libya or Mauritania
He opened all structures to the Egyptian sun ☀️. Without 21st century air conditioning, at that. Only one complexion on earth 🌍 can do this; without getting sunburned. Which points to Ancient Israel, ( That became guests … multiple times ) where scripture and historians of time say, “They look like Egyptians” Amen 🙏 hotep.
The Egyptians use prayed to the angels sun and the moon and studied the stars..I don’t want to keep explaining because then it will drag into black magic and secrets that I shouldn’t speak about... one secret I can tell is that they studied sound and certain parts of the human body intensely...
It's also interesting to consider that the reason why the Aten became so popular during Amenhotep III's and Akhenaten's rule may have been political moreso than spiritual since Amun's priests in Thebes held an immense amount of power. The pharaohs at the time would've needed to stay on their good side and try to appease them. By demoting Amun, the royal court stripped the Amun priesthood of that power and by making themselves the only conduit between the human and the divine, they conferred it on themselves. It's kinda similar to how Henry VIII made himself head of the Church of England after splitting off from Rome. Political and spiritual power combined in one office and one person. Of course, though, we can't know Amenhotep III's and Akhenaten's exact motivations and a lot of Akhenaten's actions do seem to suggest that he did actually believe in this new religion of his so it may have been a mix of the two or it may have started out as political scheming under his father but then turned into genuine belief under Akhenaten. It's impossible to know but it's fun to think about.
NeonKitty, I think you may have stumbled onto something. Amun's priests did have immense power. Also, under the Amun priests they believed in more than one G-d. Polytheism. Akhenaten didn't bring about monotheism as we know it. Akhenaten only believed that Aten was the only G-d worth worshiping. The clerics didn't like this. The clerics even arranged the murder of Akhenaten. They did arrange for Tutankhamen to become a Pharaoh. Then the religion moved back to what it was before his father saw the light. By the way, when funds went low, the clerics robbed the pyramids and the royals. The only one's untouched were Aktenaten and King Tut. His son. And his wife.
Tought same thing
I don't doubt he believed in it strongly. If he threw the old gods out at all, that is true dedication. Changing his name also indicates this. Also, the priests not only saw this as an attempt on their power, it was, but they also would have seen it as an abandonment of righteousness. The king had thrown out God, basically, and embraced evil.
Harlan Abraham, love your name!
@@Svensk7119 I mean, he doesn't seem to have denied the other gods' existence, he "just" stopped worshipping them and closed their temples (thereby stripping their priests of power). But yeah, like I said, I do think Akhenaten probably believed in his new religion (the hymns he wrote for the Aten certainly sound like the words of a true believer). But Aten had already started becoming more popular under his father Amenhotep III and I wouldn't be surprised if that rise in popularity (that eventually led to Akhenaten believing in it) was politically motivated. And some of Akhenaten's religious decision-making may have been influenced by political concerns, as well, even if he truly believed in his new doctrine.
@@neon-kitty I am sure. I just think it is a little cart-before-the-horse. If he truly believed, his political motives would have come from that. They would have reinforced his religion. His father appears to have been slightly lazy, in a poetic sense. (My opinion only, a'course). He fell into one habit of address, when there were so many poeticisms in the language. Maybe he was religiously big for his britches, but that is pure conjecture. Number IV, however.... he went the whole nine yards. And twice again! He sounds like a convert, and there is no zealot like a convert. Changing his name? Check. Altering religious conventions built over centuries? Check. Restructuring his court to accommodate? Check. These drastic changes all sound of conversion. Perhaps he had these beliefs in situ for sometime, but Something had to change for him to bring them forth.
The other thing he seems is a narcissist. All he did made himself more important. He seems to have been some degree of unhinged, as well. Somewhere between Sadam Hussein and Adolf Hitler, though I mean that for unhingement only. I have heard nothing of him being murderous.
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It bugs me more than it should that when people speak of Tutankhamun they almost all skip over his birth name being Tutankhaten.
@@sfyogagirl7336 wow and my name Fred
To throw people off as usual.
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@@sfyogagirl7336 it’s just a light hearted joke ...it’s not really Fred !!
@@sfyogagirl7336 who died and made you pharaoh?
I spent the morning going through your channel. Thank you for blessing us with your knowledge and keep up the good work. ✌
Thank you :) Appreciate that!
You must be a layman when it comes to the knowledge Egypt Kemet the proper name. The speakers information is totally insufficient
@@dylanhunt5655 sadly it's true we blacks have gone through merciless humiliation and enslavement for thousands of years and it will continue to be so until we all perish. First it was the Arabs the ' Arabisation', then the ' whites' did it again I guess we were never meant for good things
@@AAA-be6wk no need for insults am pretty sure I know enough plz remind or give me a brief history about Africans ruling the world, no doubt the Nubians were black, Egyptians were mixed sometimes African( 25 dynasty) rulers sometimes Arab rulers still are ppl suffered the most compared to other races but plz point me or show me to this evidence that Africans were once mightier than the Greeks , Arabs, provide facts not hearsay .
@@thenostalgicsidekick3076 I'm trying to be patient with you but the depths of your ignorance is mind-boggling. I don't have the time and it's much to teach you the thousands of years of African history true history. The Greeks and the Romans studied at the feet of the Africans in Kemet the land of the blacks. Also Europeans studied in West Africa which I haven't mentioned any of there kingdoms or dynasties the Songhai Empire to the Great Zimbabwe. It's so much information I do not have time to post it. Let me give you some books and authors to help you eliminate your depths of ignorance and bring you into the knowledge of Africa. We'll start off with Dr John Henrik Clarke Dr Cheikh Anta Diop Dr.Yosef Ben jochannan Dr runoko rashidi Dr Tony Anthony Bower.Dr Ivan van Sertima.. I have more. These are qualifying linguist anthropologist physicist an Chemist you also may want to check out Dr Gabriel Oyibo some of them also have videos this is enough information to keep you busy for a hundred years. Maybe the next time you post something it won't have so much ignorance. There were tens of thousands of years African dynasties before the Greeks ever existed when they were in the hills and caves of Europe walking on all four eating their food Raw. I'm pretty sure you're heard of Neanderthals I also know of the history of the Europeans
Interestingly, the art from the Akhenaten's time is placed in a separate room in the Egyptian Museum on Tahrir square in Cairo. I wonder if they put it similarly into an isolated room once the museum moves to its new building near Giza plateau.
I would like to go there and find out! 👍🏽
I believe, this is the plan
Regarding the "art style" I always thought he was just depicted realistically... The pharoes were notorious for inbreeding, a deformed frame like that wouldn't be entirely impossible
That's right, just look up the forensic reconstructions of King Tut if you have any doubts
Or the deformation of his legs.
@@jameswoodard4304 He looks like President Obama with hips, lol
@@jameswoodard4304 fair enough, good article, if they have the body, that's proof enough
Sources?
Great presentation and writing
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Personalable Ptah came before Impersonable Aten
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Assassin's Creed brought me here. Beyond the game, I was amazed and intrigued by the detail and depth Ubisoft put into side missions and extra's.
Those games have better history than a lot of things in like the amethyst whole idea is actually f****** a reality possible watch Laurence Gardner's lecture on his book tour secrets of the Lost thicker darker whatever the f*** for real
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It makes me sad that Humanity
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@@grandioso3507 You embarassing yourself makes me giggle
Such solid content here - thanks! I tried to visit Amarna while I was visiting Egypt several years ago. Sadly, it's pretty much only possible if you pay off-duty police/soldiers to accompany you. Ditto with Nag Hammadi.
Thank you! Yes I've heard that it's very difficult to get to Amarna, even for archeologists? I had a professor once who specialized in ancient Egyptian language and he was only allowed to visit the site for a few hours.
@@LetsTalkReligion Yeah and apparently it's getting harder and harder. Daesh, may their name be erased, has gotten bolder especially in the Sinai and the interior is pretty unsteady. I expect - with profound disappointment - that I'll never safely be able to visit most ancient near east sites in my lifetime. It's such a profound loss for all humankind and the tragic and sinful result of my country's foreign policy.
It really is a tragedy. I'm still holding on to hope that things will change before we die, but it ain't looking great.
Isn't it on a Military installation??
@@TheEsotericaChannel if western countries stop invading or destabalise countries than that will happen
Imagine the scandal in his day... that even slaves could be rays of the one God. Imagine all the living self proclaimed gods from their past and present being demoted as even equals of non Egyptians. As in all cases religion is political, faith is a different story.
Damn son. That was great.
We wuz kangz
Faith is what those without talent possess.
@DCE Faith in a religion is STILL FAITH and STILL RELIGION. Never forget that and do not be so haughty about your personal judgements like who is talentless and who is moronic.
Ptah was a monotheist God before the Aten was even considered.
This is super interesting. Intelligence connects dots without playing pretentious.
Thank you for uploading.
Cheers 🍃
Your videos are fascinating. Feel like I just stepped out of a college history class! Thank you! 🙏
This revelation is invaluable to me. Thank you for your work. It’s like Akhnaten was a royal lightworker. Ra as a literal sun god vs. Aten as divine light.
Dang, don’t do it like that.😂 right
Ra2 was a nob
And then aten....nob
Can you be trusted? I got something that will knock your socks off with proof
Did you know the Bible was a moorish book?
Thanks!
Came for the Egyptian heresy, stayed for the nutty comment section. Between the new-age Aten worshipers, the Egypt was African folks, and pyramid skeptics I'm having an absolute blast.
We were kings and shit 😔 lol Africa did conquer Egypt and ruled it for about 200 years
@@mattobu6554 The Kingdom of Kush ruled for a while, not really sure that means "Africa" conquered Egypt, "Africa" only referred to what is today Northern Africa, there was almost no contact beyond the lands of Ethiopia, most of Africa was totally separated from the North for most of history. I don't even get why anyone would try to claim it, there are amazing African empires and complex cultures that existed throughout history, I think everybody just likes the Great Pyramid of Giza. The Copts don't even get their due anymore, everyone fights over the heritage that rightfully belongs to them.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 if egypt had no contact with lands beyond (i assume you mean further south than) ethiopia, i need you to explain the habit of egyptian priests wearing the same leapoard skins as zulu priests. that you dont get why anyone would talk about it it speaks to your own bizarre behavior. egypt is an african country sharing memetic connections to it. what is bizarre is the notion that something else is true here in the 21st century. to acknowledge ancient egypt as an african country is not a denial of any other wonderul achievements in other african countries, but rather to put it in it's proper cultural context
Afro-Asiatic for sure
I remember back in the 1990's that National Geographic did a whole magazine on the African Pharoh's. There are multiple countries within the continient of Africa
It's crazy thinking how much of our own human history we know about. I yearn for knowledge of the old world but who knows if we'll ever fully understand it.
Anyways, great video and keep up the great work! I going to be one of those proud earlier subscribers once your channel blows up!
Just read the bible for all the answers of world. There is truth in it. There is a real spirtual war going on.
julie andrade and a lot of lies too 🤷🏽♂️
@@bigshow2cool actual not lies at all. But truth..lol. sadly we are the ones misinformed probably by non believers etc they like to say its lies because frankly that's what they think. I don't go by what peole think but what is true and proven as fact. Bible has proven to be God breathed. I mean that is so cool and nothing in the world is more special then that. Watch Case for Christ if you want truth.
@@julie9541 Another blind sheep, the delusion has worked well on you
@@SleazyRider86 I can say the same for you...hahah. to say we have the knowledge is simply not true...the fact is we will never know. But to claim you have all the answers pretty ignorant. Because nobody knows everything.
This channel is one of the best on RUclips. I love how it remains quality and hasn't gone the route of clickbait and sensationalism.
Yess, solid. I remember hearing about this pharaoh in my younger days. Very interesting stuff. Cheers for that.
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Ptah was the first monotheist god, and He was from the priests/people in Memphis
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New Kingdom
18th dynasty
3:25 Amenhotep III
5:44 Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten)
10:52 Reforms of Akhenaten
*Historian (Egyptologist)* : Erik Hornung
This religious revolution seems to be the one featured in the classic book The Egyptian. Great read.
I've always thought that most of Akenhaten's reforms reeked of someone wanting to undermine the power of priesthoods and other power structures that he (possibly) felt had gained too much power.
From the possible worship of his powerful (and thus likely respected) father, the exclusion of a priesthood in his new religion to the herculean undertaking of building a new administrative capital (which I would deem more easily defended) my admittedly layman opinion is that it's an avenue worth investigating.
Remembering that these societal structures weren't completely uprooted and seemingly instituted a reasonably extreme damnatio memoriae after reinstalling themselves after his immediate successors, it's really no wonder why his reputation is lousy.
That being said it is extremely likely that the complete societal upheaval resulting from this proposed war against the theocratic organisation would have prevented him from being a competent ruler.
Religion can be a powerful political tool.
@@apalahartisebuahnama7684 religion has always been a powerful political too, perhaps the most powerful one.
It is said that the best way to control a population, is by controlling their thoughts and actions. Aka mindcontrol. Thus you have a large army at your disposal.
Look at christianity and Islam, hinduism as well. Old pagan religions shows the same.
@@lioness6853 Hinduism was never united and endlessly persecuted because they were never the aggressors. But it is uniting and waking up against this persecution due to the advent of the internet and connectedness.
@@N0Xa880iUL Hinduism is seen as the oldest religion in the world and seems to have been pretty united for centuries.
@@lioness6853 It was not unity as much as the pursuit of truth. The lay people prepared a framework to quell their thirst for meaning and called it religion. But the true spirit of hinduism is in discovery as opposed to dogma. Sure, people will believe in infinite deities but never ever was it forced upon. And I think it was a good thing. The scientific progress in Hinduism was tremendous. Even Ramanujan believed the goddess passed him the theorems in his dreams. Goes to show a genius is not tied to his religion or beliefs.
Can't understand why but I have been obsessed with Akenathen and his family for some time. They were something special more than what history knows.
I too feel a special affinity for Akhenaten, his family and the fascinating Aten. The ankh symbol and the hands at the ends of Aten's life giving rays say so much these thousands of years later. IMO the depiction of the Aten is truly universal symbolism that lasts forever.
@@annalisette5897 I believe so it has special meaning for are current times. Dark gives way to light.
@@grose2272 Additionally, everything is made of light. If subatomic particles are broken down to smaller and smaller parts, photons which are packages of light, are found.
Did you know "rose" that Akhnaton re-incarnated in recent times and did actually do the same - creating a new capital city ?
a vision completed in only 3 years against the will of the country's inhabitants.
he had the help of Ja-im hatap , reincarnated at the same timespan.
a even more controversal theory to delve into is " the cloned akhnaton."
there is althoug a dark aspect one has to considder talking Akhnaten and can not be dismissed , akhnaton determined way to create a new capital and a new religion "heliopolis -tel el amarna and the worship of the athen " left egypt devastated and in ruin , and u can imagine the people"s rage towards akhnato'n s followers and servants after the priests gained back power
it was a sad dark page in history that can not be forgoten !
but hey , he came back and completed his heliopolis so .......
he was killed again but hey ... he completed his task
Egyptologists ignore every evidence that points to Akhenaten being an openly Lesbian Woman. They had to find other explanations to her feminin features and blame her worship of the Sun as the reason the Patriarchs burried her ideas. It makes no sense.
Love the way you put the video together. Your narration with the music and the images is thought provoking and spookily mystical.
Love these short history videos! That’s how we make them too, short & to the point!
Very well analyzed. Exactly my sense of what they were worshiping. Fascinating
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I really enjoyed your videos on Akhenaten. Maybe it's already been mentioned within other comments, but in the 1980’s Ra the Law of One communicated much on ancient Egypt, including their state of pantheism and some interesting words on Akhenaten, which I feel amalgamates to your research. Many thanks
Yes! I was hoping someone else would mention the Law of One :) I think it is also important to mention the prophecy that Thoth spoke to Asclepius in ‘The perfect sermon’.
Excellent episode. I have often wondered about a possible connection between the monotheistic tendencies of Akhenaten and change to monotheism in Judaism. This is the first show I have seen in which it is mentioned and your mentioning of the similar texts is new information for me. I have always looked at the chronology - the Jewish population in the Levant was polytheistic to a point just after Akhenaten's reign, then it adopted monotheism. Any Jews in Egypt during his reign would have been exposed to monotheism. The migration of the Egyptian Jews to the Levant happened about a century later (c1225 BCE if I recall correctly) which coincides quite nicely with, i.e. preceding the transformation from polytheism to monotheism in Judaism. I am certain there are many published papers - scholarly research - on the topic that would be fascinating to read.
Super interesting when you connect all the dots . The spread of information throughout time and civilization is fascinating
Brian Smith The Jewish religion was always monotheistic. They only worshiped one G-d. The creator of everything. If they believed in multiple G-ds then they could not have been Jewish.
Have you read Friedrich Schiller's Mission of Moses? It could indeed be that Judaism and later Christianity was a 'copy' of this new religion...
@@harlanabraham7772 even in the Bible they had to be told to stop worshiping their other gods. And they were still doing sacrifices to them. In the Bible. So
@@harlanabraham7772 Where did you hear that?
There’s extensive documentary evidence of polytheism.
They even combined their preferred parts of elder storm god El into younger warrior storm god Yahweh, maintaining the fatherly aspects of El while keeping the aggressive warrior tendencies of Yahweh.
This is easily seen when comparing the different aspects of god just in the Old Testament.
And don’t get us started on his (basically erased from history) wife Asherah.
Thank for this video on a subject that has fascinated me since childhood. Just for your information, I just celebrated my 69th birthday. I can offer an explanation regarding Amarna art and its differences from the idealizations that characterized traditional Egyptian art. One of Akhenaten's epithets was "Living in Truth". Therefore, being depicted realistically in art was important to this pharaoh. The art however did change from exaggerating Akhenaten's physical traits in the beginning to a more natural depiction later on. The famous head of Nefertiti is an example of this final phase.
To change the subject a little, I've been currently studying the Zoroastrian religion which I and others believe appeared as early as 1700 BCE. The focus on light in both Akhenaten's faith and that of Zoroaster, or Zarathushtra in the Avestan language, is very interesting. Zoroastrians often pray outdoors in the direction of the sun. And, of course, in the fire temples, they pray towards the fire which is a sacred element of creation representing the god Ahura Mazda's wisdom. The fact that solar worship existed in many religions throughout history shouldn't suprise us as life wouldn't exist on this planet without the sun.
Forgive me for expounding so extensively. Your videos are always intellectually stimulating for me. Plus, I enjoy sharing some the things I've learned in my previous and current research. Cheers!
The ancient Thracian god Zalmoxis was also a monotheistic god; the Greeks mention this....
Egypt is much older then the schools say.
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Give thanks for the introduction to an understanding of Egyptology.Quite an interesting subject for an enthusiast to follow.
You made a lil grammar-mistake there, Neviille.
This is my favorite RUclips channel. Keep up the great work
The importance of the actual light that sustains our ability to live over personification in deific representation is perhaps the first 'scientific' understanding rather than to be understood as religionist - at least in that past of the World
Your videos are important. I thank you for this knowledge. We live in a world where we are attempting to get rid of history. It does not matter if the history affects the agenda of others. Historical fact is more important than traditional beliefs . Thank you
It makes me sad that Humanity
has still not overcome Religion and such.
Idk man getting rid of religion has only shown to increase suicide rates so I'm not sure it's a good idea 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Thank you for your unbiased and informative approach on all the various religions you describe. Appreciated. Please do a video on pagan, Slavic, Celtic, etc., ...if you are interested. Either way, well done, and thank you.
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Thank you sir!
Well presented, mindful, not taking wild tracks, evidence based. Thank you, and peace be unto you.
"Praise the sun! If only I could be so grossly incandescent! I'm searching for a sun of my own you know..." Akhenaten, the original Sunbro
Akhenaten of Astora has a ring to it lol
Thanks for sharing this nearly vanquished fraction of egyptian history.
It makes me sad that Humanity
has still not overcome Religion and such.
Nice work captain
Thank you for spreading culture!
I’m very familiar with the Amarna period, and you did an extremely excellent job here explaining the situation. Bravo,,,
Just as informative as a college history class, and not the least bit boring. I know I'm not the only one who pays attention throughout.
It would be interesting to speculate what if Akhenaten's new religion had taken more of a hold for a much much longer period of time...perhaps the whole subsequent history of religions, at least in the Middle East and the Western world, would be quite different!
It did. Read thru the lines. This is the start of Old Testament and Hebrew religion. It’s also Christianity. He claimed to be the son of the sun. He got rid of all gods like god coming down and banishing his ppl
As indicated in other comments, a follow-up subject would be: "To what extent did mono- or heno-theistic Atenism influence early or proto-Judaism?"
After Akhenaten's death, followers of his 'monotheistic' religion may have been forced to flee...and the next country over is Canaan. Some, including the psychologist Freud, have tried to connect this era to the Exodus narrative. However, Moses was not a historical figure (while his name is similar to that of the earlier Pharaoh Ahmosis I, this may be coincidental) and there is no archeological evidence for the Exodus narrative. This explanation also fails to include the various Canaanite gods (El/Elohim, Ba'al, etc) which play an important role in the Old Testament stories.
Still, Egypt ruled over Canaan during Akhenaten's reign, so presumably Canaanites were strongly exposed to his religion during that time. A henotheistic or monolatrist form of Canaanite religion may thus have formed in Canaan via standard religion syncretism, without the need for any migration per se.
A fascinating topic! Thanks for the video.
I personally think we can rule out the fact that Atenism was henotheistic, consider how in that time the names and records of other gods were wiped and discarded and weren't allowed to be worshipped, he didn't exactly ever deny their existence, and what is the definition of henotheism? The belief that there is more than one deity but only one of them is supreme, the others are worshipped but not to the extent of the supreme one; but then comes monolatriesm, i think this is the more likely, consider how like i said Akhenaten didn't exactly ever deny the existence of the other gods, he just didn't allow it and refrained from worshipping anyone but Aten.
Of course this is just my opinion.
Thanks for sharing this info. In my opinion, the theory that there may have been some connection between Atenism and early/proto-Judaism is way more plausible than a lot of people admit.
@@seefoe5Actually that is true... :)
But they wouldnt admit it cuz bible mentions ramsey the 2nd 🤐
Definitely sparked my interest on the subject. Congratulations!
I'm new to the channel and after watching 3 videos you've earned a loyal subscriber. I appreciate people who put effort into their research and are very informative so thank you
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Absolutely fascinating, thank you!
Thanks for your vids. Your cup of knowledge overfloweth!
sick dude this channel is exactly what i needed
Someone needs to make a speculative historical fiction about Akhenaten's life and then make a film of it with a massive budget.
I'm on it🏃🏿
You can see some of this in the 1954 movie "The Egyptian".
I one have a novel where the main characters got time traveled into Akhenaten reign. It narrated the struggle between the old religion and the new religion, with some usual weird quirk like introducing modern technology to the ancients and stuff. But I've lost the novel some years ago lol.
This is just Yu-Gi-Oh!
This channel is a gem, keep up the great videos
Just like CGP Grey and other Educational Channel.
Oh, and Hbomberguy of course. Or Illuminaughtii.
I visited the Akhetaten (Amarna) remains. Unfortunately few remains left.
Thank you so much for the video. I'm currently really interested in Aten and through your video Ive learnt a lot. Even if English is not my first language, I understood almost everything.
Your channel is very good and informative.
I love how the Assyrian king who sent his representatives to Egypt was like "My brother in Assur, you are literally forcing your men to die under the Sun by building a nonsensical temple."
I knew about Atenism and Akhenhaten but Aten being about the Light rays rather than the Sun disk being the true form is totally new to me and blew my mind, as someone interested in Jewish, Christian and Islamic mysticism... but this adds to my idea of a common Religion of Light. This idea of the Light (Nur) and Truth (Haqq) being emanations of a single reality beyond time and space reminds me of Kabbalah, Esoteric Christianity, Spiritual Shi'ism and Manicheanism... the parallels are obvious. There must be universal truths and tendencies within mankind.
Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. Excellent video.
I’ve always been fascinated by this pharaoh
According to twelvern Shia Islam, it was the presence of the Prophet Joseph in Egypt during that time that lead to the monotheistic movement of Amenhotep the 4th. There was a show created in 2008 called "Prophet Joseph" which tells the story of Joseph through the Quran and Islamic traditions.
Brother, do you know if the hadiths ever tell us his name? I am not sure if this akhenaten is him or not because Joseph peace be upon him is dated to around the old kingdom or second intermediate.
@@servantofthemostmerciful7985 i dont know if there is hadist or not, but there was a link between the story of prophet yusuf and the story of akhenaten. I dont know the armana city is the new capital or the place that akhenaten build for yusuf relative that come and life in Egypt for the prophet yusuf a.s has a higher ranking in that time that would be possible i think.
Great video
What a fascinating channel you have, great work !!! thank you very much for sharing.
Here's some episode requests for u, u might be interested in:
Suhrawardi and Illuminationism
Mulla Sadr Din Shirazi
Hafez Shirazi
Rumi & Shams Tabriz
Al Ghazali
Imam Al Shadhili
Al Hallaj
Perennialism & Rene Guenon
again many thanks and all the best to u.
I believe Akhenaton was a wise ancient soul who was signifying as the embodiement the perfect balance yin and yang male and female as one wholeness and the love/light the of all life..not one gender or the other but the unity...the one pure consciousness that is the all..thankyou for sharing..
Fantastically presented video full of fascinating information and inspiring visuals. Well done.
12:28 This is exactly what fascinates me about the Aten.
Very informative video, learned many new things today, thank you 👌
I'm glad :)
Every Religion is in its Core Monotheistic.
Great Work anyway!
This is actually a fascinating Islamic belief. As Muslims, we don’t believe that Prophet Muhammad began Islam. Islam, isn’t named after him, like christianity and Judaism are derived from particular people. The core Islamic belief is that the one true God, inspired different people from every single nation throughout time. To call to worship, only one God, and to disregard the belief in false idols etc. that’s why Islamially speaking, the core belief of monotheism, has never changed.
“We sent a messenger to every single community, saying, ‘Worship God and shun false gods.’ Among them were some God guided; misguidance took hold of others. So travel through the earth and see what was the fate of those who denied the truth.” Quran 16:36.
“And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) but We revealed to him (saying): None has the right to be worshipped but I , so worship Me (alone and none else).” Quran21:25
The word Islam means to submit your will to the will of your Creator. And a Muslim is someone who has submitted their will to the Creator. However, people think it means prophet Mohammad initiated our faith. Which no Muslim believes. It’s apart of the core pillars of the faith to believe God sent thousands of different, inspired men to their people to call to the One true God. There were African prophets, European prophets, Asian prophets etc. And this Pharaoh man could have been one of them.
“There are messengers whose stories We have told you already and others We have not. “ Quran 4:164
God has always inspired certain individuals in every single community with the call to worship the one true creator, to their people. A lot of people wouldn’t follow them and they were shunned from their communities and only had maybe a handful of followers. God tells us why He at one point in time favoured the children of Israel over other peoples this is because from all the messengers & inspired people God sent to their nations, the Israelites were the only ones at the time that actually followed that guidance, that’s why God favoured them and sent them so many miracles and blessings.
“O Children of Israel, recall my blessings upon you and that I [once] favoured you above all other beings.”Quran 2:47
In the Quran, God tells us the prophet Muhammad was the seal of prophethood, after revealing to thousands and thousands for centuries and to every community. The message of one God can sometimes then be found, in some ancient literature.
“Muhammad is not the father of any one of you men; he is God’s Messenger and the seal of the prophets: God knows everything.” Quran33:40
There’s always been one religion. But then it broke down when people deviated from the guidance sent with the messengers. For example, Muslim believe God inspired Jesus and chose him and sent him to His people, bring his people back to the correct path
“He will send him (Jesus) as a messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make the shape of a bird for you out of clay, then breathe into it and, with God’s permission, it will become a real bird; I will heal the blind and the leper, and bring the dead back to life with God’s permission; I will tell you what you may eat and what you may store up in your houses. There truly is a sign for you in this, if you are believers. I have come to confirm the truth of the Torah which preceded me, and to make some things lawful to you which used to be forbidden. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. Be mindful of God, obey me: God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him- that is a straight path.” Quran 3:49-51
Because the children of Israel, didn’t follow the continuity of God’s guidance and rejected Jesus.
“God said, ‘Jesus, I will take you back and raise you up to Me: I will purify you of the disbelievers. To the Day of Resurrection I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieved. Then you will all return to Me and I will judge between you regarding your differences.” Quran 3:55
God inspired certain upright individuals in their communities and entrusted them with calling their people to worship Him alone. Later on, people have taken them as a God instead of the True God who sent them.
can you please make a video about the first concile of nicaea or pope damasus and hieronymus.
Those wall murals and stuff are so fucking mysterious.
This is one highly🧠 intelligent and knowledgeable 🎓 scholar and a brilliantly📣narrated A+ quality video. Thank you, Filip Holm!
The artistic revolution was also so amazing! The Amarna period was so beautiful.
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He persecuted the people and their gods and goddesses followers. How th is religious persecution and discrimination beautiful?
@@per-netjereweclectickemeti93 The art and architecture was really beautiful. And it's amazing to see so much unearthed and better understood. No sane and moral person should find religious persecution as a good or beautiful thing. Nor did I state it was beautiful. I can't wait to learn more from this unique and unexpected period in human history.
Good stuff. Never anger the priesthood ! Liked and subbed :)
Awesome, I'm subbing. My favorite part of history is religion.
When he says it’s the light and not the disc itself, my first thought was “for the night is dark and full of terrors!”
All hail the Lord of Light
Jesus is Lord.
@@voidremoved Piss off. r'hllor the lord of light is the LORD. IT IS KNOWN.
Dude, Gandalf kicked his arse and rode his corpse down a cliff like a bogan on an Esky lid going down a sand dune. He then stole his light bringing abilities.
Allah is the LIGHT of the heavens and the earth. (Quran 24:36)
@@voidremoved Jesus never existed. And Yeshua ben Yosef itinerant rabbi, was not the lord.
This was around the same time that prophet Joseph(as) came to become the governed of Egypt and hence influenced Amenhotep IV to become a monotheist, in which Aten represented the One God
My thoughts exactly. By the way..... You are beautiful @nadine chamas.
What is your source for this grand claim?
Exactly... was scrolling to see if it would be pointed out
Oh my goodness, thank you for saying “raises the question” instead of the (incorrect) “begs the question.”
Egyptian writer Naguib Mahfouz, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature, wrote a novel about Pharaoh Akhenaten titled "Akhenaten: Dweller in Truth." In it, a man interviews members of Akhenaten's former court to try to find the truth about the late Pharaoh, only to find that each individual has a different viewpoint, a different truth and a different story to tell.
There's only ONE TRUTH. anything other than that, are just plain lies.
Would like to read it
That's really interesting. If I were to let my mind wander, I would imagine that the idea was definitely radical and had positive effects on society, being a God to ALL beings, not just to specific people, and also showing signs of affection to family has benefits to society. I also couldn't help but think that he insisted his body be represented in a more true realistic manner rather than the standard perfect manly body which we know pharaohs who ate well never had... But yes, this will be deemed heresy since the other gods/patron-saints already have a dedicated following
In Islam we believe all nations received a messenger telling them to worship one God, some accepted and some didn’t.
You are young and impressive! Good research mate 👏👏👏
The priesthood were his enemies... who later on killed Akhenatuns son TUTHENKHAMUN, just a young child and reopens the polytheistic temples. Taking control!
yep
Monotheism is the evil that must be destroyed. Death to Christianity and death to Islam, and death to Judaism.
Hi, you say there were no priests of Aten, but on the map you presented, and I've found online there are priests houses and there is a 2nd in command priest Panhesy, he had two houses, one in the city center and the other near the temple of Aten.
Subbed! How fascinating! Love the format!
If you're going to worship anything religiously, the sun makes the most sense.
1. You can see it. That's a one up on pretty much every other god.
2. It's warmth can be measured and used to our benefit. Another one up on things like the holy spirit.
3. It's absolutely essential for life on earth.
That's what I'm saying!
And this is precisely what the ancient pagan priestclass did.. the mistook, or inverted spiritual truths for the material i.e. believing the earthly sun to be (a) god.
See, people are evidently blinded by their own materialistic mentality, never coming to the truth - that this world is not what it seems [1 John v. 19].
He looks like Scottie Pippen
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Or Arsenio Hall, maybe. :)
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She is not a man, she is a female. Her crime wasn't Monocrap, her crime was being openly gay married to a female, getting pregnant in unknown way and revolutionalizing Egyptian Social Construct. Those were her Crime and the Patriachs took extreem measures to bury her ideals. You can call her the Ancient Egyptian Feminist Leader.
@@goddyfame3424 Ew
We need you on tv and at school for our society growth
From the Law of One 2.2: “This entity, Akhenaten, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the Law of One. However, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The peoples continued in their beliefs.”
Akhenaten was taught by Ra that above all gods of religion (ET) stands the One Infinite Creator from which all emerged and to which all return. The One Creator is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.
Yes!!!! The Law of One material is mind blowing and beautiful!!!!!!
Hmm, makes me wonder if Jews came about from trying to centralize religious power in one deity and in turn political power, because the Jews and canaanites were once one people and that could be the reason they spilt.
You’re on track. The Ten Commandments are directly from the Laws Of Maat which were practiced daily in egypt
Exactly
Yahweh was a lesser god to El. So was Baal.
The politically powerful invent law-giving gods. In other words, societies come first.
Correction: read the Bible please. Caanan is Ham's son, inhabited Africa, like Egyptians and Cush. Jews come from Shem. Academics nowadays are profoundly antisemitic: be aware if this. Also, I think that the flood caused great displacement of people, that explains what the Canaanites are doing in a territory that wasn"t originally theirs. That is what Melchitzedek talks about with Abraham. Abraham comes from Shem.
I salute you. You do explain each point briefly in a simple way that a layman understand and get knowedge.
I came to know about Akhenaten in an Iranian sitcom depicting the life of Prophet Yusuf or prophet Joseph. I also found out him in the Quran and how he helped Prophet Yusuf.
The timeline doesn’t work...Joseph more than likely came into Egypt around the 18th dynasty when the Hyksos controlled upper Egypt...1700s BC...he was only three generations removed from Abraham, who lived roughly around 2000BC
The new kingdoms 15th dynasty, from which Akhenaten derived, was more than likely around the exodus..give or take a century, lol
@@mccalltrader mate that's not the point, it's not history and of course it would not be accurate
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Exodus never happened
@@mccalltrader Joseph has been thought to live 15th-16th century BC. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were all at old age when they had their respective sons. (Jacob had many kids, but not with his favourite wife Rachel. Later, she did manage to bear a son).
It would be an interesting video, one dedicated to delving into the history of the notion of the monotheistic/polytheistic conceptual pair. As briefly broached here, it seems to me (someone without scholarly research, of course) to be a rather "abrahamic centered" notion, the application of which to many other religious creeds is not without considerable difficulty (take hinduism, for example, as mentioned in another video, or candomblé with its many orixás that are celebrated but that recognizes a single supreme creator).
your channel is fantastic
Does Akhenaten's Religion of Light predate Zoroastrianism?
Zoroastrianism first
Aten predates Zoroastrianism by hundreds of years.
It depends on when Zarathustra lived, which is a point of contention. Some place him around the time of Akhenaten, others much later (as late as 7th cebtury b.c.)
No Zoroastrianism is as old as 3000 BC and was the religion of the Indo-Iranians (Aryans) and inspired the Vedas in India. The rules and written concept however was first forged by Zoroaster who himself lived way before Akhenatan around 1500 BC!
@@LetsTalkReligion I was asking the same question awhile ago, good thing you've got this answer here. Cool videos bro.
Theres an interesting lingusitic relationship between ancient egyptian and Somali.. for example the word for sun in Somali is Qorah and the sun is Qorahda..in ancient egyptian the sun God is called Ra Horahthy..very close to the Somali Qorahda
My understanding is the Somali language and the Egyptian language are related.
@@memcrew1 you're correct, the Somali language is the most documented language of the Cushitic branch of the afroasiatic language family, and it's the only Cushitic language that is a formal national language of a sovereign country (Somalia), it's also a national language in Djibouti and a regional state language in Ethiopia
So yh, since Somali is a Cushitic language of the afroasiatic language family, its linguistically related to ancient egyptian which is another branch of the afroasiatic language family..so there will be a lot of similarities in words
Somalia is also considered by many to be the ancient Land of Punt..the pharaohs called this land their ancestral land of origin..so it could be that the similarities between the languages may also be due to having very close ancestral and genetic relationships between ancient Somalis of the land of punt, and ancient Egyptians
@@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Ok, Somalis and Ancient Egyptians are genetically related too, and have no genetics relationship to the rest of Africa. My understanding is Put is Lybia. Can you expand on Put?
@@memcrew1 yh, Somalis and ancient Egyptians carry the ev32 sub clade of E1b1b y DNA.. found also in north africa and in sudan ..but Somalis carry the highest frequency of E1b1b dna in the world (you can check the distribution of e1b1b on websites like eupedia)
I'm not well versed on Put, some biblical description of put/phut says that they were the people of Ethiopia, linking it to the horn of africa ..but a lot of descriptions also link the region to libya or somewhere in north west africa ..apparently phut or put was a son of Ham, the debate is mainly about where this region was..unfortunately there isnt any archeological or scientific evidence to solve this conundrum ..I'd kind of hazard that it may have possibly been either the horn of africa (the land of Punt is very close to the name Phut or Put, and some biblical narratives state that Phut was in Ethiopia), or in north west africa either libya or Mauritania
@@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Cush is Ethiopia and Put is Lybia...... interesting dna info. I wish I had a time machine to verify these things. 🍻
He opened all structures to the Egyptian sun ☀️. Without 21st century air conditioning, at that.
Only one complexion on earth 🌍 can do this; without getting sunburned. Which points to Ancient Israel, ( That became guests … multiple times ) where scripture and historians of time say, “They look like Egyptians”
Amen 🙏 hotep.
The Egyptians use prayed to the angels sun and the moon and studied the stars..I don’t want to keep explaining because then it will drag into black magic and secrets that I shouldn’t speak about... one secret I can tell is that they studied sound and certain parts of the human body intensely...