What is Manichaeism?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @zjz19900621
    @zjz19900621 4 года назад +407

    One of practitioners of Manichaeism established Ming dynasty in China. The word Ming (明)takes inspiration from Manichaeism as it represents the brightness of human spirits. However, the emperor himself later brutally eradicated Manichaeism, since it was quite effective in fermenting peasant uprising..

    • @magnuscritikaleak5045
      @magnuscritikaleak5045 3 года назад +50

      The Emperor also destoryed the White Lotus Society as well as the Gnostics in China.

    • @00MSG
      @00MSG 3 года назад +10

      I had no idea about this, thanks for the info.

    • @martytu20
      @martytu20 3 года назад +14

      Fun fact- Jin Yong used that rumour as the basis for the Ming cult in Heaven’s Sword and Dragon Sabre in the Condor Trilogy.

    • @in_ur_moms_house
      @in_ur_moms_house 3 года назад +10

      @Fishka Grishka there's a temple in Fujian... pretty deep inside the wall

    • @in_ur_moms_house
      @in_ur_moms_house 3 года назад +4

      @Fishka Grishka and Romans were polytheist. So what...
      Still doesn't change the FACT there's a manichaen temple in Jinjiang, Fujian.

  • @dr.p.d.sargent4893
    @dr.p.d.sargent4893 4 года назад +215

    It is refreshing to hear scholarly information spoken, not read, imparting research in a congenial way. Thank you for speaking with emphasis and calm enthusiasm.

  • @zakiamashhdi3672
    @zakiamashhdi3672 4 года назад +144

    I am Indian Muslim women interested in comparative religion. I greatly benefited from this lecture of yours. At the same time marvelled at your knowledge and memory.
    I think that manichaeism became extinct not only because of onslaught of other rival religions but also because of the rules which were too austere to be followed by common people. Too much of ascetism is hard to digest. Thanks for the knowledge you shared.

    • @yakovmatityahu
      @yakovmatityahu 4 года назад +1

      Hi

    • @yakovmatityahu
      @yakovmatityahu 4 года назад +1

      I am from India.

    • @stevenschkolne
      @stevenschkolne Год назад +14

      well any religion that doesn't encourage reproduction...

    • @alphabetpeople2902
      @alphabetpeople2902 Год назад

      Living as a Muslim woman isn't austere? Who are you trying to kid? No, this religion was brutally suppressed bcos it busted the "god" of Abraham as the Satan he really is. That's right, you Muslims worship Satan, that's why your "allah" is such a monster.

    • @magicalgold010
      @magicalgold010 Год назад

      Then marry me if asceticism is so hard for you

  • @susanp5393
    @susanp5393 3 года назад +45

    I lived in South a France in an area where Cathars lived in 12th and 13th centuries.The Cathari professed a neo-Manichaean dualism-that there are two principles, one good and the other evil, and that the material world is evil. They were prosecuted and masacured by Christian armies sent by Vatican regularly. I am Iranian so I knew about the artist Mani and his religion, and I was very surprised to realize that Manichaeism had arrived even as far as France.
    Your description of Manichaeism and its history is the most comprehensive I have ever heard. Thank you for this work. The reason the follows of Mani were prosecuted however, I believe, is the fact that they were opposing the power of clergy that in Iran was the Zoroastrian priests, and in France, was Vatican. I think this was what the core of Mani movement all about.

    • @stevenschkolne
      @stevenschkolne Год назад

      check out this video "did the cathars exist?" - ruclips.net/video/8h9pMC2au94/видео.html

    • @tomhalla426
      @tomhalla426 Год назад +1

      I would suggest the Cathars had more influence from the Gnostics

    • @southronpapist
      @southronpapist Год назад

      @@stevenschkolne A gnostic defending gnosticism? Well imagine my shock.

    • @MrCrowley6
      @MrCrowley6 6 месяцев назад +1

      There is a massive difference between having dualistic views and veing manicheist. To be a manicheist such as mysef is to believe first and foremost manu was the greatest prophet, second to believe in the Alaha (also called Abba D’rabbuta) and finally that the world was created theough the cosmology stated in this video. Calling manicheists cathars is like calling satanists Catholics because they happen to have one figure who is important in one way or another.

    • @DM5550Z
      @DM5550Z 4 месяца назад

      @@MrCrowley6who is alaha, thats not a manichaean title

  • @noahdanielg
    @noahdanielg 4 года назад +486

    Alright, I'm a Comparative Religion student and I'm only discovering this channel now!? Mate, your work is fantastic, definitely some of the best content I have seen. I'm back-watching some videos and your videos on Ibn Arabi and Taoism is great! Please make more 'Introduction to' traditions and maybe something on Perennialism/Traditionalism and Hindusm! I'm glad You Tube is bringing people with our particular interests together like this, although I'm late to discovering you.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 года назад +32

      Awesome, thank you very much! Where do you study? Do you have a particular field that you focus on?

    • @noahdanielg
      @noahdanielg 4 года назад +37

      @@LetsTalkReligion I do Religious Studies at the VU Amsterdam. Haven't really gone into any specializations yet, but have a particular intrest and focus in Hinduism and Mahāyāna mostly, but also Catholic mysticism and Sufism definitely.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 года назад +28

      @@noahdanielgVery interesting subjects indeed.

    • @CIMAmotor
      @CIMAmotor 3 года назад +6

      @@noahdanielg Hello Noah, my background is in the philosophy of religion but I'm really interested in the anthropology of religion, especially comparing ideologies in order to establish an innate religious framework. Have you begun to specialise yet? I would be interested to hear what you are studying now.

    • @noahdanielg
      @noahdanielg 3 года назад +7

      @@CIMAmotor Hello David, good subjects of study indeed. No definitive specialization as of yet, but I am planning to eventually focus more deeply on Indian religions, Hinduism foremost

  • @stevesmith4901
    @stevesmith4901 4 года назад +247

    Manichaeism eating habits sounds a lot like the eating habits of Jainism.

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus 4 года назад +37

      Yep, but perhaps the Elect took it to even greater extremes. Jains are permitted to eat some animal products, provided that it does no perceivable harm to the animal. Manichaen Elect were pretty much staunch Vegans who were so shamed by eating any living thing (they believed even plants had Divine Light), that they refused to even prepare the food, leaving the "sins" of producing and preparing the food to supportive Hearers.
      I am curious just how different the human diet would be today, if Manichaeism had in fact successfully become the largest religion on Earth: Ecologically, we'd be much, much better off today, as there would be far fewer animal products.

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus 4 года назад +6

      @river side pottery The Elect were Celibate, yes.

    • @herms16
      @herms16 3 года назад

      Hinduism

    • @mariammimi3563
      @mariammimi3563 3 года назад

      @river side pottery which will reduce poverty because enough will go around for everyone in our today's world.

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus 3 года назад +19

      @@mariammimi3563 He's wrong: If Manichaeism was the dominant worldwide religion today, I sincerely doubt the World's population would be that different, or that we would all be "Vegans": Hearers were by no means stopped from reproducing or really doing anything in regards to sex, but would be at most lectured about how the flesh was a facet of "Darkness" which will cause their Light to remain on Earth. Similar thing goes for animal products: They would by no means be "banned", but worldwide consumption of animal products would probably be less than it is today, which is what we all really, really should be aiming for today anyways.
      Manichaeism was probably the most syncretic organized religion ever created, and religious leaders of rival religions were painfully aware of this syncretism and the potentially massive, popular appeal Manichaeism fundamentally possessed. This is why Christianity evolved to be so syncretic: It wasn't that it wasn't originally syncretic (it was likely very rigid and fundamentalist, even when Church Leaders like Paul of Tarsus tried to open it to non-Jews.), but rather Christianity tried to emulate the syncretism which was common in Gnostic religions like Manichaeism in order to grow and spread.

  • @gregorygilbert3500
    @gregorygilbert3500 2 года назад +6

    This was the most thourough explanation of the cult of Mani. I would like to share with you about a very lucid dream that I had about Mani. I dreamed this dream back in 1993 and have never forgotten it. In my dream I was in a strange type of environment. I couldnt figure out whether I was inside of a building or outside. It shone with a certain kind of light that was neither glaring or bright and I found myself confronted with this mini maze of a building that was about 8 feet high and it had 8 sides all with connecting hallways and outer openings but no doors. I wandered around inside of this weird little structure when suddenly seemingly from thin air out popped this short little man with a rounded face and a continuous smile on it. He kept his hands together in a typical prayer type manner with both hands together and pointed straight up. I said to him hello who are you? He answered back, I am Mani. I could sense from him a feeling of peace and tranquility and of no fear whatsoever. I asked him what this little maze building signified or meant. All he said was it teaches us about eternity and how to be happy within it.

    • @user-k4d-e59mo28oc
      @user-k4d-e59mo28oc 3 месяца назад

      Now there are several other documentaries on YT about Manicheanism.

  • @gaiafjerda2262
    @gaiafjerda2262 4 года назад +134

    I can't get enough of your content, such good work every single time !

    • @ravisekharsridharreddynedu8538
      @ravisekharsridharreddynedu8538 4 года назад +1

      Very goog
      Melting pot!!!!

    • @IshtarofAZ
      @IshtarofAZ 4 года назад +1

      Please share more about this great religion..Thank you do much. I love your informative videos 👍

    • @benedict18
      @benedict18 3 года назад +1

      I listened to some of your videos. Your knowledge and information fabulous. Your narration superb. God bless you.

  • @Mr.Nichan
    @Mr.Nichan 2 года назад +57

    I don't remember hearing "Manichaean" to mean dualistic (though one of my parents used "Zoroastrian" that way), but I had vaguely heard of it as some Abrahamic-adjacent religion that I knew nothing about until I saw it was the state religion of Uyghur Khaganate and decided to look into it and got really interested. I just thought it was fun to think that the Uyghurs once ruled an empire in Mongolia whose religion upheld Zoroaster, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ, and someone named Mani as the 4 prophets (a nice geographical distribution of prophets, and interesting in mixing Indian and Abrahamic traditions much earlier than Sikhism, Baha'i, or anything else I knew of like that).

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад +2

      Not only in the Uighur Khaganate. In the Khanate of the Yenisei Kyrgyz, too. This is evidenced by the discoveries of Manichaean temples by archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov.

    • @andre_cinelli
      @andre_cinelli 3 месяца назад

      I'm brazilian, and the word manichaeism here is synonymous for dualism, until recently I didn't know that this word was the name of a religion. I think a lot of people (at least here) don't know that manichaeism is a religion.

  • @wesk7346
    @wesk7346 3 года назад +23

    That "Buddha of Light" carving is actually from the last Manichean temple in China -- the Cao'an in Jinjiang, Fujian province (as mentioned by someone else in the comments). While prophet Mani has the face and look of a Buddhist figure, if you look closely, the carving is showing him wearing Taoist religious garb and not Buddhist. This was likely due to the cultural assimilation with local Chinese religions after its initial entry into the region during Tang Dynasty in 7th century, and transformed into a mix of Buddhist-Taoist Mani. There are some local Chinese folktales that mentioned Manicheans being a large portion of the Red Turban militia force - along with White Lotus Buddhist sect - that helped the Ming Dynasty founder to overthrow the Mongolian Yuan Dynasty. Legend has it (no concrete evidence) that the naming of the "Ming Dynasty" was named after "Ming Religion" -- the name of Manichean religion in China during that period. During Song Dynasty (before the Mongolian Yuan), Manichean was called "vegetarian demon worshippers". Hahahaha. The term "demon" here is in the Chinese tradition of evil spirit and not the Greek origin of "daemon".

  • @ultrasignificantfootnote3378
    @ultrasignificantfootnote3378 4 года назад +74

    The man who later became st Augustin was a manichean fot 10 years.

    • @tomasroma2333
      @tomasroma2333 3 года назад +20

      Yes he said that at the start of the video

    • @balljacksok
      @balljacksok 2 года назад +2

      Nine years tbf

    • @eiontactics9056
      @eiontactics9056 2 года назад +2

      Yep, then it turned into Calvinism

  • @al4381
    @al4381 3 года назад +21

    I'm impressed by how well you pronounce all names. Your pronunciation of Arabic, Aramean, and Swedish are good enough to think that you are native to any one of these.
    Edit: Oh you're Swedish, that explains it.
    Also something notable about Manicheanism is that their Syriac terminology is lifted straight from the Syriac/Assyrian churches under Antioch. Every single word they used "ecclesiastically" are words which are used by the Syriac churches to this day.

  • @kabood777
    @kabood777 3 года назад +104

    I'm a Persian (well actually Iranian cause there is no Persia anymore ...), I can only say thank you for this great video, I wanted to write something about the art in the Manichaeism, we call the Mani the painter prophet because their main book(Arzhang...ارژنگ.) written by Mani himself was so beautifully designed and written with beautiful calligraphy, they had their own alphabet and calligraphy style, they saw the different forms of art (because of the spirit of the beauty within them) as the best way to represent light, you could say their only alive relative religion is the Mandaeans in southern Iran and the border cities of Iraq they still have about 75000 followers, although with a deeper research one can find their footsteps and influence in many belief systems around the world, thank you once again for your great video 🙏🙏🙏

    • @kabood777
      @kabood777 2 года назад

      @mbleketeq who said they are the same ?

    • @yuliuswijayanto843
      @yuliuswijayanto843 2 года назад +5

      Mani claims the last prophet, and Mohammad says so too several hundred years later

    • @jurmanjiojurmancki5929
      @jurmanjiojurmancki5929 2 года назад

      You are talking about The Kurds without mentioning their name:) (Iran - Iraq border).

    • @ademfarhanmovies
      @ademfarhanmovies Год назад +1

      I am mandai/mandaen

    • @ademfarhanmovies
      @ademfarhanmovies Год назад +2

      @@jurmanjiojurmancki5929there is no kurdish peapol in Basra or khuzestan my friend 😂

  • @Iknowknow112
    @Iknowknow112 3 года назад +84

    I’ve become a bit obsessed with Mani and his teachings especially since I’m reading. *The Gardens of Light * by Amin Maalouf which is fictional biography of Mani written by Maalouf who’s a historian. As oddball as his cosmology is I’ve always found Mani an attractive figure in his attempt to unify, or better said harmonize the manifold systems of humanity.

    • @jurmanjiojurmancki5929
      @jurmanjiojurmancki5929 2 года назад +2

      Mani was belong to Zoroastrian community, and his new religion was founded on pillars of Zoroastrianism.

    • @Iknowknow112
      @Iknowknow112 2 года назад +12

      @@jurmanjiojurmancki5929 For the record Mani always referred to himself as “An Apostle of Jesus Christ “. Later he was called “The Buddha of Light” so there was a lot more to Mani than Zarathustra.

    • @Xcerptshow
      @Xcerptshow 2 года назад +1

      Mani stole all his stuff from other religions. So if you are into it then you are into a watered down or corrupted version of what you want. I suggest you keep looking for the pure form of what is calling out to you.

    • @Iknowknow112
      @Iknowknow112 2 года назад

      @@Xcerptshow I’m not looking for anything. But your ignorant attitude tells me you’re a good ole fashioned Christian . And BTW ALL religions are regurgitated or as you so crudely phrase it “stolen stuff”🙄 including the most ancient traditions of Sumer or Egypt . Mani was a religious genius regardless of what you think of him and the way of life he proscribed for his elect clearly goes back to the earliest Essene roots of Christianity which is why he called it the truest form of Christianity.

    • @Cjco102
      @Cjco102 2 года назад +3

      @@jurmanjiojurmancki5929 Mâni was an Elkesaite, not a Zoroastrian

  • @josephellikal1259
    @josephellikal1259 4 года назад +8

    I come from an oriental Christian faith; Now known as Syro-Malabar Christain faith in India; Manichaeism had a root in its growth in India, where Buddist and Hindu Philosophical ethos prevailed, Manichaeism had easily incorporated into It. later known as oriental Christian faith of Malabar region ( corresponding to the geographic region of Present-day Kerala) thanks for the wonderful well-reasearched insight on religious philosophy.

  • @richardbaroff4911
    @richardbaroff4911 4 года назад +28

    This was interesting, informative, eloquent and beautifully illustrated. Thank you from someone who teaches Comparative Religion.

  • @ersturdevant2831
    @ersturdevant2831 3 года назад +73

    In the movie "The Fifth Element" weren't the alien beings referred to as " Manicheans", along with the Elements and dualism a main component of the story? Just occurred to me. Great video!

    • @EMa-nk8vn
      @EMa-nk8vn 3 года назад +20

      Next episode on this channel: "What is Mondoshawanism?"

    • @franceleeparis37
      @franceleeparis37 2 года назад +8

      Yep, never thought of that .. the five elements are part of Manichaean belief as well as the sanctity of life… The fifth element is on of the best sci-fi ever

    • @silkplayer9
      @silkplayer9 2 месяца назад

      And it’s also a water down copy version of the Incal which presents dualism:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incal

  • @MJ-fn6nr
    @MJ-fn6nr 3 года назад +19

    This is helpful in trying to understand St. Augustine's initial attraction to Manichaeism (I'm reading the Confessions for my Catholic book club.) Your presentation is very respectful to different cultures also.

    • @polishherowitoldpilecki5521
      @polishherowitoldpilecki5521 Год назад +3

      Confessions? Tell me more.
      I’m teetering towards reverting back to Catholicism.

    • @mon_moi
      @mon_moi Год назад

      ​@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521Confessions is St Augustine's autobiography of a sort, though I've only read one chapter so far for my European Lit class. It gives some insights on Augustine's childhood in Libya and other parts of his life before converting to Christianity, but primarily it is a theological text. You should read it if u wanna learn about what Christian theology was like during late Antiquity period

    • @MrCrowley6
      @MrCrowley6 6 месяцев назад

      @@polishherowitoldpilecki5521you should consider conversion to manicheism.

    • @MrCrowley6
      @MrCrowley6 3 месяца назад

      Manichaeism is the true way.

  • @gertvanderstraaten6352
    @gertvanderstraaten6352 3 года назад +25

    There's a French comic by Enki Bilal (can't remember which one, but probably La foire aux immortels) which has Neomanicheans who live in space because space has very little matter and are actively trying to destroy matter, including entire planets. That was probably my first introduction to Manicheism.
    Also: the relationship of the Elect with the Hearers sounds an awful lot like the Cathars from what I read about them.

    • @shibernaught9949
      @shibernaught9949 2 года назад +1

      sounds wicked bro

    • @schedelworld
      @schedelworld 2 года назад +2

      the Elect and the Hearers is also pretty similar to Christianity in the time of Augustine. Until you went through baptism, you weren't bound by the most stringent expectations of living a Christian-style life, so some people seem to have put off baptism as long as possible (see Constantine's deathbed baptism, though of course his life story is more complex in its relation to Christianity than the average street-Christian).

    • @MrCrowley6
      @MrCrowley6 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thats a shame. As a manicheist we don’t try to destroy matter we try to purify it.

    • @nerdatron817
      @nerdatron817 4 месяца назад

      Nikopol Triology?

  • @hiltonklitzna9394
    @hiltonklitzna9394 3 года назад +4

    I'm a philosophy & religious studies major in my Jr year at university. Videos like these inspire me to find a specific subject to specialize in, while still having a nominal understanding of the history & beliefs of all religions past & present

  • @ladrabudka6953
    @ladrabudka6953 3 года назад +8

    Yes, more please especially the art and quotes from his writings. Many thanks-we love your channel.🙏

  • @err0r99
    @err0r99 4 года назад +27

    Duuude, this was awesome! You took me straight back to my Comparative Religions undergrad at U of T. I was with a Persian friend trying to remember what that hybrid Zoroastrian religion was all about when I found you. He was impressed. Big ups to you and big ups to Mani! LOL #Classof2005

    • @jdlc903
      @jdlc903 3 года назад +4

      "Big ups to mani " amen

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 2 года назад +1

      big ups? you sound like you are still living in #2005 😂

  • @jtadros16
    @jtadros16 4 года назад +37

    I asked for this. Thank you!

  • @greggrobinson5116
    @greggrobinson5116 4 года назад +28

    Yes! More on Manichaeism. I've come across vids that say at one time, most of the Christians in Western Europe were actually Manichaeists, and I'd like to see how this could be true. I'd also like to understand how Mani was able to travel so widely, and to integrate such disparate religions into one consistent belief system. It's so weird to think of him back in the days of the church fathers, claiming to be Christian too.

    • @crazyjkass
      @crazyjkass 2 года назад +1

      I heard that in a university lecture, probably the class Varieties of Early Christianity.

    • @ilohymshaddai590
      @ilohymshaddai590 Год назад

      The European ( Indo-Aryan ) Speaking Posterity are actually the offspring of Samaritan Assyrian Aryan BrotherHood!
      The Arabs & Chinese are the Founders of Manichaeism ( The Manes ) Monks & Priests! The European In the eyes of the Oriental Arab (Aryan) and the Asian (Mongoloid), The Europeans are Leopards ( Skin Diseased ) because of the lack of Pigment color of skin! The Result of this view made the separation of Europeans from their Aryan Arab Brothers & Asian Oriental Mongoloid Brothers in the Posterity of the Moslem Family ( Arabs,Asians,Whites ).
      ✝️Christianity & Europeans are both offspring of Their Oriental Roots (Theologically & Biologically) 👍✡️☪️✝️

    • @BEABEREAN10
      @BEABEREAN10 Год назад +2

      Depending on how "early" you are talking about, this would make sense. St Augustine of Hippo (Algeria, N Africa) was a Manichean gnostic until King Theodosius declared death to the Manicheans and he was forced to convert in 387. This is why many of Augustine's writings have flavors of Manichean gnosticism in relation to dualism and the fallen nature/ability of man.

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад

      The author did not cover much because of the rather short video format. For example, in Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.
      The studied temples are particularly interesting for the exact coincidence of the planography with the descriptions of the Sabian temples by Arab authors (Al-Masudi, Al-Dimeshki, Al-Shahristani). They have an unusual geometric layout.

    • @nerdatron817
      @nerdatron817 4 месяца назад

      @@DmitriyPapshev Show me where he talks about the temples

  • @onioncontrol
    @onioncontrol 4 года назад +4

    Your channel is drastically underrated. Great video.

  • @ladykoiwolfe
    @ladykoiwolfe 4 года назад +5

    I greatly enjoyed this. I had not heard of Manicheism before. And since you asked, I had no problems following along. Your explanation and visual aids made it quite easy. Thank you. I love learning about every religion whether it's still flourishing or long died out.

  • @wisdom33-i1n
    @wisdom33-i1n 4 года назад +30

    The Manichean tradition seems to have been revived or continued in Southern Europe as the Cathars (Good Christians), who were much persecuted by the official church.

    • @MrCrowley6
      @MrCrowley6 3 месяца назад

      Cathars where most similar to us in evangelical and ascetic practices as well as quasi dualism. Manichaean should be used in direct reference to Mani’s teachings.

  • @seiteom
    @seiteom 3 года назад +26

    I think this is the best summary of Manichaeism available on RUclips, thank you! If you decide to make another video on Manichaeism, a few suggestions for topics: the Kephalaia, a beautiful collection of Manichaean stories and teachings that has survived surprisingly well. Or the findings from the archaeological dig at Kellis. Or, if you wish to go onto more speculative territories, the connections to various later heresies, like Catharism and the White Lotus Societies.

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад

      The author did not cover much because of the rather short video format. For example, in Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.

    • @nerdatron817
      @nerdatron817 4 месяца назад

      @@DmitriyPapshev Could you link me? I'm really interested

  • @bluebebop5865
    @bluebebop5865 3 года назад +5

    would love to see a more in depth video on Manichaeism where u talk more about it’s beliefs and practices

  • @angelocicognini6174
    @angelocicognini6174 2 месяца назад

    I'm halfway through the video, and it is really complete. Thank you!

  • @kevinwellwrought2024
    @kevinwellwrought2024 4 года назад +195

    Persian influence on the world is tremendous.

    • @KeyhanTheFreeman
      @KeyhanTheFreeman 4 года назад +20

      @Kevin Wellwrought Too bad that the Hindu Extremists, White Nationalists, American Nationalists, Atheists, and Evangelicals do whatever they can to discredit us.

    • @kevinwellwrought2024
      @kevinwellwrought2024 4 года назад +9

      @@KeyhanTheFreeman because they are all aware of Persians’ talent and potential and know that if they are not curbed they will easily dominate the world once again. Annunakis’ first contact was with Persians.

    • @KeyhanTheFreeman
      @KeyhanTheFreeman 4 года назад +5

      @@kevinwellwrought2024 Iranic people are the religious and cultural fulcrum of their region alongside the Jews.

    • @mindmesh7566
      @mindmesh7566 4 года назад +16

      Persian history is really enjoying a strong acknowledgement outside of the U.S.A.. What has isolated modern Iran is the presence of the competing Abrahamic faith of Islam. The west has for sooo long “racialization religion” to where the people and the faith are under umbrella terms and thrown into gross generalizations. Persia/Iran has never disappeared, but has, in fact, remained part of the epicenters of wave after wave of some the biggest empires in history. But……where did the Greeks go? The Pharaohs of Egypt? Even the Caesars?? The Emperors of China?…Hopefully, the “modern dark age” will pass and people - worldwide - will come out of their xenophobic and cultural shadows and live as human beings who share the same planet and home world.

    • @kevinwellwrought2024
      @kevinwellwrought2024 4 года назад +16

      @@mindmesh7566 if it weren’t for Islam, Iran would be minimum 50 years ahead of all other countries and cultures.

  • @JaleelBeig
    @JaleelBeig 3 года назад +22

    A comparison between Manichaeism & Baha'i movement would be interesting. Both seem be most perennialist ideologies of their time so wanna see how much they are similar in.

  • @narayansivajiramos999
    @narayansivajiramos999 3 года назад +5

    You rock all over the place, sir!
    I subbed.
    Thank You for feeding the collective mind.
    I, for one, am sincerely grateful for YOU and YOUR CHANNEL.
    It is a breath of fresh air, really.
    Ergo, THANK YOU.

  • @Merle1987
    @Merle1987 3 года назад +3

    Your channel is finally getting promotion. You're about to blow up.

  • @philipvlnst
    @philipvlnst 4 года назад +5

    i never knew manicheasm could be so complicated. thank you for such a erudite presentation. i need this for my class on st agustine.

    • @DanKaraJordan
      @DanKaraJordan 2 года назад +1

      'Rescuing the divine particles of life' is so much better than only relying on Augustine's, "farting out angles" quote from the Confessions when trying to understand the religion.

    • @MrCrowley6
      @MrCrowley6 3 месяца назад

      Augustine was buased and not part of main stream manichaeism.

  • @meringue3288
    @meringue3288 3 года назад +1

    This is my new favorite channel thank you for existing

  • @samisiddiqi5411
    @samisiddiqi5411 4 года назад +44

    If Manichean Theology had such a duality, I can see why it went extinct. Augustine's entire work seems to have been an elaborate critique of Manichaen doctrine...

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus 4 года назад +22

      Augustine brought the Dualism of Manichaeism into Christianity.
      I haven't studied Augustine thoroughly, but it seems to be that Augustine's falling out with and his denouncement of Manichaeism had little to do with it's actual beliefs, which I actually don't doubt he largely retained even when he became Christian, but rather due to the nature/philosophy of Manichaeans. Manichaeans wefe supposed to be very peaceful, but more significantly, they were very passive: Augustine thought there was no initiative to fight Evil in Manichaeism at all, and the battle against Evil in Manichaeism is on fact a very passive, peaceful affair.

    • @TheUrobolos
      @TheUrobolos 4 года назад +8

      Augustine works indeed destroyed the credibility of the faith in the west, but it went extinct in Asia also, a place where i doubt Augustine thesis were heard

    • @waynedombrowski7568
      @waynedombrowski7568 3 года назад +2

      So many sharp people here(by no means all). Augustine's mom,a Christian,threw him out of the house when he converted to Manichaeism. Take a look at the debate he had with Pelagius,which Augustine won. A lot of historians and theologians think this is where Christianity went sour.

    • @ohamatchhams
      @ohamatchhams 3 года назад +2

      @@waynedombrowski7568 Even his post-Christian conversion works akin to Civita te Dei is practically has a lot of Manichaean subtexts despite his constant denial of Dualism in Theology, but not in every other sectors of his Exegesis to Philosophy, something which influences Orthodox and Catholic Churches and their reclusive Monastery orders to cults and heterodox movements subconsciously influenced by him

    • @veronicaharwick9013
      @veronicaharwick9013 3 года назад

      The return of the prodigal son of Christianity represents the dualistic nature of man... moving away from darkness back towards the light.

  • @henrymorgan1741
    @henrymorgan1741 2 года назад

    The fact their is a bibliography in the description fills my heart with joy.

  • @nicholaskelly6375
    @nicholaskelly6375 3 года назад +9

    This is certainly very interesting. I have for many years wondered why Mani and his creed withered. As the faith clearly had a great deal to commended it. Certainly I would like to learn more about it.

  • @GabrielSchlaefer
    @GabrielSchlaefer 3 года назад +2

    Excellent overview of a fascinating but much-overlooked world religion. Thank you for making these well-researched videos.

  • @YaBoiHakim
    @YaBoiHakim 4 года назад +10

    Amazing work!

  • @taymaabuhakmeh3846
    @taymaabuhakmeh3846 Год назад +1

    this is so good... you're so well spoken

  • @FaustGoodman
    @FaustGoodman 3 года назад +5

    please come up with additional programmes on Mani and manichaeism. thank you.

  • @aronlukacs6911
    @aronlukacs6911 3 года назад +1

    Most detailed video on manichaeism I've seen yet. Great video!

  • @zugabdu1
    @zugabdu1 4 года назад +38

    My man Al-Biruni got a shout out!

    • @abep6901
      @abep6901 3 года назад

      Actually he was just Birouni. He was Persian. So, no "al"

    • @zugabdu1
      @zugabdu1 3 года назад +1

      @@abep6901 Customarily, in English, we call him Al-Biruni. We also say Al-Khwarizmi even though he was also Persian. "Gorithm" just doesn't sound right

    • @abep6901
      @abep6901 3 года назад

      @@zugabdu1 Yup, both Persian. His name is also spelled wrongly. Kharazmi. Named after Land of Kharazm with Samarkhand its capital.

    • @zugabdu1
      @zugabdu1 3 года назад

      @@abep6901 You might have noticed that this channel has a video about al-Ghazali too. We say Confucius rather than Kong fuzi as well. Sometimes famous people have exonyms.

    • @thematrix7584
      @thematrix7584 3 года назад

      @@abep6901 it is not karazam, it is khWArazm

  • @GlennHallLivingWater
    @GlennHallLivingWater 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent research and presentation. Well done.

  • @petersmith1343
    @petersmith1343 3 года назад +25

    I always enjoy your videos. A video on the Albigensians would be interesting as allegedly a form of neo-Manichaeism.

    • @strontiumdog3344
      @strontiumdog3344 3 года назад +5

      Do you mean the Cathars? This would be interesting.

  • @faribaist
    @faribaist 9 месяцев назад

    It’s fascinating to see how the Manichaeism is so vividly still alive in Tibetan Buddhism, specifically in the Kagyu tradition. It’s very interesting also to see it still alive in other cultures and religions.
    Please give us more information and teachings about Manichaeism.
    Thank you for this incredible platform dear Filip, you are a gem 💎

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад

      The author did not cover much because of the rather short video format. For example, in Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.
      The studied temples are particularly interesting for the exact coincidence of the planography with the descriptions of the Sabian temples by Arab authors (Al-Masudi, Al-Dimeshki, Al-Shahristani). They have an unusual geometric layout.

  • @adhamsinan2648
    @adhamsinan2648 3 года назад +10

    Your arabic pronunciations are really good, glad o stumbled upon your thorough channel.

    • @SV-er3yp
      @SV-er3yp 3 года назад

      Those are Persian words, not Arabic, idiot. Even the name Mani is 100% Persian.

  • @nathanjiggens3859
    @nathanjiggens3859 Год назад +1

    Never heard of this man. Your doing great work!!! So much detail and care. Keep it up!!

  • @ml9342
    @ml9342 4 года назад +4

    Enjoyed this video. I would love to hear more about it.

  • @TammyLetterman
    @TammyLetterman 3 года назад +1

    I love this! I also love that you’ve done all the research and I just have to hit play😍

  • @hieratics
    @hieratics 4 года назад +38

    Could you do a video about the prophets and revolt leaders of in the early conquered Persia who tried to blend Zoroastrianism and Islam?

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 года назад +3

      Do you know of any good sources for this information?

    • @hieratics
      @hieratics 4 года назад +11

      @@LetsTalkReligion unfortunately, I don't know any good source besides the Encyclopedia Iranica. Though I found very interesting to know about the Kaysanites,Khurramites, Sunpadh, al-Muqanna and others

    • @vinicius2uiciniv
      @vinicius2uiciniv 4 года назад +3

      There is also Ishaq-al Turk

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 3 года назад +1

      @@hieratics uP

    • @kaykhosrow3263
      @kaykhosrow3263 3 года назад +4

      @@LetsTalkReligion 2 centuries of silence is good read, although i would rather uncensored edition since Islamic republic of Iran censored the book

  • @Veganrevwithzombies
    @Veganrevwithzombies Год назад +2

    I came here because I am currently writing a book about the Unfinished works of Philip K Dick. Shortly before his death in 1982 PKD wrote a 2 page outline for a novel called Acts of Paul that would have been an alternate history novel(like his Man in the High Castle) that would be set in the 20th century when Christianity died out but Manichaeism survived and spread globally. Thanks for the background this video was useful.

    • @Lissbirds
      @Lissbirds Год назад

      As a PKD fan, this sounds really intriguing. Have you published it yet?

    • @Veganrevwithzombies
      @Veganrevwithzombies Год назад

      @@Lissbirds It is finished and I am currently shopping it to publishers.

  • @nc5809
    @nc5809 4 года назад +2

    this a great job. there are other pop religion channels that cant handle this material but this is an excellent examination

  • @Digitographer88
    @Digitographer88 4 года назад +1

    WOW! So happy to discover this channel!

  • @rebeccacooper2874
    @rebeccacooper2874 3 года назад +9

    He called himself The Seal of the Prophets because he was hermetic. He finished his evolution towards his divinity that life and God Sealed him. In Gnostic writings it's called receiving the Chrism and in Christianity it is referred to by Jesus as the Baptism of Fire. In Buddhism it's called the alignment of the Middle Pillar to become the Buddha and in the Hindi religion it's called the kundalini ritual. To be Sealed is our evolutionary goal in becoming Divine in Nature. Nice video and blessings to you.

    • @goku5323
      @goku5323 2 года назад

      What is your opinion about Islam??
      I am just curious..

    • @rebeccacooper2874
      @rebeccacooper2874 2 года назад

      @@goku5323 I have not studied the Islamic religion and cannot comment on such things. I am ignorant to their beliefs.

    • @MegaBaddog
      @MegaBaddog 7 месяцев назад

      @@rebeccacooper2874 ruclips.net/video/_SCYwrVPHDc/видео.html Sam Shamoun Vs Dr. Shuaib Sayyed: Does The Quran Confirm The Bible?

  • @moshecallen
    @moshecallen 3 года назад +1

    Yes, please more videos on this subject.

  • @Phorquieu
    @Phorquieu 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant examination of Mani and Manichaeism! Very well done!

  • @kappasf
    @kappasf 4 года назад +2

    Great content. I went down a rabbit hole and by luck came across your videos. Thank you.

  • @gabbys4579
    @gabbys4579 3 года назад +6

    I literally have an ap environmental science test tomorrow that i need to study for but this is way more interesting

    • @mmtatlas4705
      @mmtatlas4705 3 года назад

      real men study during the test. Welcome to the real men's society.

  • @chrisalfano589
    @chrisalfano589 3 года назад +1

    Just fell upon this reading S.P. Laurie Rock and Tower where he brings up the Manichean gospels of Thomas. Had to look it up. Fantastic video

  • @williambonds6909
    @williambonds6909 4 года назад +2

    It would be wonderful to hear more about this religion. Thank you.

  • @kirkdougherty8690
    @kirkdougherty8690 2 месяца назад

    As always, you're presentation is meticulous and easy to follow. It's interesting that I'm currently reading Paul Kriwaczek's book In Search of Zarathustra and have just finished the chapter entitled The Religion of Light. So, I definitely encourage you to present more on this fascinating religion. Best wishes to you and many thanks.

  • @efstahl7027
    @efstahl7027 4 года назад +5

    Very informative! It's incredibly interesting to hear about all the beliefs that overlapped with Christian, Zoroastrianism, Islam, etc.

    • @jurmanjiojurmancki5929
      @jurmanjiojurmancki5929 2 года назад

      Well! Islam and Christianity including Judaism were under influence of Zoroastrianism 😉

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад

      The author did not cover much because of the rather short video format. For example, in Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.
      The studied temples are particularly interesting for the exact coincidence of the planography with the descriptions of the Sabian temples by Arab authors (Al-Masudi, Al-Dimeshki, Al-Shahristani). They have an unusual geometric layout.

  • @stardust6643
    @stardust6643 3 года назад +1

    mani's book is called Arzhang /arjang/ ارژنگ means illustrated book, very beautiful book with calligraphy and paintings to represent the good light side of the universe. even today in Persia painting books in schools is called arzhang to teach paintings and colors to young children.

  • @jrhermosura4600
    @jrhermosura4600 3 года назад +2

    I feel like Lord Mani is a very talented guy. He writes, speaks, and paints.

  • @witoldnapiorkowski2631
    @witoldnapiorkowski2631 4 года назад +1

    Excellent narrative, very enlightening. Thank you!

  • @mimiagvald4238
    @mimiagvald4238 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for such great information and efforts to read so many doucement about thinkers of human history, inorder to make a presentation...🌞🙏🔥🙏⚘🙏
    I do appreciate tremendously 🌞🌞🌞

  • @markanthonycoliinson873
    @markanthonycoliinson873 Год назад

    Great video. I'd love to see a more indepth follow up video to this. Thank you.

  • @goodlookingcorpse
    @goodlookingcorpse 3 года назад +12

    Mani: I have come to unite all religions.
    All religions: [persecute Mani]

    • @thex9165
      @thex9165 3 года назад

      so it's indeed united

  • @thomblinn4731
    @thomblinn4731 Год назад

    I appreciate your apt analysis. Thanks so much!

  • @CatastrophicDisease
    @CatastrophicDisease 3 года назад +9

    I am getting Tolkien/Silmarillion vibes from the Manichaean cosmology and creation myth.

  • @boyloaf6098
    @boyloaf6098 3 года назад +1

    Please make more videos about it! This is so incredibly interesting.

  • @CNX625
    @CNX625 3 года назад +9

    Manichaeism going with the flow. Especially the flow of other religions. Reminds me a bit of Daoism. Very interesting. And surviving in China the longest makes sense too. China has always been a melting pot of religions. From Nestorians to shamanism to Buddhists and Daoists.

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 2 года назад

      taoists - i keeps it peking old school 🎉

  • @Smartion
    @Smartion 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, I really enjoy your uploads and the content 🙏🏼

  • @willowrowley7830
    @willowrowley7830 4 года назад +2

    I would love to hear more! Very fascinating stuff.

  • @Tinkering4Time
    @Tinkering4Time 3 года назад +1

    Definitely interested in learning more about Manichaeism.

  • @kikum3067
    @kikum3067 3 года назад +4

    His writing can be related to Bhagvathgeeta, lotus sutra and Manu Dharma sasthra...it seems mahayana bhuddism ( Amithaba/avalokeswara) started with these writing later Hinduism & jainism

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 4 года назад +1

    You have answered my questions! Thank you.!

  • @mandipbhogal5232
    @mandipbhogal5232 4 года назад +3

    Dude, your channel is awesome, and very balanced in its outlook

  • @bahramfarsi8253
    @bahramfarsi8253 4 года назад +3

    I feel so lucky to've come across your highly educational and informative channel. I appreciate you for sharing the results of your research with everyone on you tube. Very fascinating!

  • @johnphillips4776
    @johnphillips4776 4 месяца назад +3

    You can't deny that Gnosticism was one of the core components of Manichaeism. It even talks about aeons and the material world being evil

  • @eleonorelauterborn3351
    @eleonorelauterborn3351 2 года назад

    really interesting and worthwhile to give more details.

  • @franklombardo8246
    @franklombardo8246 3 года назад +4

    This is very interesting. I would like to see a video on your thoughts linking Manichaeism to the Cathar Heresy. It seems to me the Origin of the Catharsis may very well be Manichaeans who through persecution were forced into Catholicism.

  • @DmitriyPapshev
    @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад +1

    It may be interesting for you to familiarize yourself with this. In Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.
    The studied temples are particularly interesting for the exact coincidence of the planography with the descriptions of the Sabian temples by Arab authors (Al-Masudi, Al-Dimeshki, Al-Shahristani). They have an unusual geometric layout.

  • @michellesamuels7558
    @michellesamuels7558 4 года назад +8

    Please cover Nestorianism.

  • @blueboywill
    @blueboywill 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic video. Would love to see more on Manichaeism!

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад +1

      The author did not cover much because of the rather short video format. For example, in Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.
      The studied temples are particularly interesting for the exact coincidence of the planography with the descriptions of the Sabian temples by Arab authors (Al-Masudi, Al-Dimeshki, Al-Shahristani). They have an unusual geometric layout.

  • @Sn0wjunk1e
    @Sn0wjunk1e 3 года назад +2

    when you said "separate the light particles from the darkness (matter)" i just imagined "we must separate the photons from the fermions"

  • @carolynsilvers9999
    @carolynsilvers9999 4 года назад +1

    So informative. Thanks for sharing.

  • @gregorykruszynski5886
    @gregorykruszynski5886 4 года назад +2

    Great lecture fascinating subject, Thank You 🙏

  • @LAVA-el5yt
    @LAVA-el5yt Год назад +1

    Yes. More videos on Manichaeism, please!

    • @DmitriyPapshev
      @DmitriyPapshev 5 месяцев назад

      The author did not cover much because of the rather short video format. For example, in Russia, in Southern Siberia, archaeologists L.R. Kyzlasov and I.L. Kyzlasov discovered and studied Manichaean temples and several Manichaean inscriptions on rocks.
      The studied temples are particularly interesting for the exact coincidence of the planography with the descriptions of the Sabian temples by Arab authors (Al-Masudi, Al-Dimeshki, Al-Shahristani). They have an unusual geometric layout.

  • @abzeromusic
    @abzeromusic 4 года назад +2

    This has so many concepts from gnostic traditions that I would consider it much closer to these faiths than to Islam or Christianity

  • @wordawakeningny
    @wordawakeningny 2 года назад

    Great teaching Brother Holm.

  • @markbaker4425
    @markbaker4425 4 года назад +3

    Hey man, you do excellent work. Please keep going. You deserve a lot more views and subs.

  • @farokhdeilami1230
    @farokhdeilami1230 Год назад

    Very interesting & informative. Hope some restart this beautiful & universal movement/religion. Thank u

  • @Gzeebo
    @Gzeebo 3 года назад +6

    Amazing work. I can't thank you enough.
    Question: What does the "-chae" part of the religion name mean, and what language does it come from?
    (I suppose I could look it up...)
    EDIT:
    Classical Syriac ḥayyā = “living”
    (via Latin hayy > chae)
    "living Mani" + ism
    Thanks Wiktionary!

  • @mounia128
    @mounia128 2 года назад

    AWESOME just as usual !! Thank you so much 🙏💕

  • @Nicolas-hh5cp
    @Nicolas-hh5cp 4 года назад +5

    Their practices remind me of those of Jainism who also advocate non-violence, an ascetic life, and so on. Even the social division is identical, with the monks or sadhu relying on the support of the laypeople or sadhvi.
    Very interesting video it would be nice too see more of this "forgotten" religions in the future.

  • @davidgibson3962
    @davidgibson3962 3 года назад

    Greetings my brother... I am David and I really enjoyed your video it was very enlightening... I have some very extraordinary input for you when you are ready🙏🏿