The Essenes & The Dead Sea Scrolls

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  • Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2022
  • In this episode, we explore the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Qumran community and ask the question whether or not this group can be identified as the Essenes.
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    Sources/Recomended Reading:
    Klawans, Jonathan (2016). "The Essene Hypothesis: Insights from Religion 101". Brill.
    Magness, Jodi (2021). "The Archaeology of Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls". Second Edition. Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.
    Vermes, Geza (Trans.) (2004). "The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English". Revised Edition. Penguin Books.
    #essenes #archeology #deadseascrolls

Комментарии • 943

  • @AsiandOOd
    @AsiandOOd Год назад +273

    the fact that sleeping during worship was a problem as old as religion itself never ceased to surprise me.

    • @richardstanley7661
      @richardstanley7661 Год назад +26

      Oh man, some preachers have the gift of lulling me to sleep. I feel terrible when I do it.

    • @albertmiller3082
      @albertmiller3082 5 месяцев назад +17

      Many people don’t have an hour where they are sitting quietly and without moving or interacting with anyone directly. Once people slow down enough to pass time listening to a Sermon, their bodies react as if it were bedtime.
      This is particularly true on a Sunday morning after people stay up later than usual on Saturday night.

    • @lisasommerlad1337
      @lisasommerlad1337 4 месяца назад

      Why would it surprise you?
      (Do you know what ceased means? )

    • @travelchannel304
      @travelchannel304 4 месяца назад

      😂😂

    • @Wakaflockaflank
      @Wakaflockaflank 4 месяца назад +2

      @@lisasommerlad1337he used the word right. It still surprises him to this day, even though he has been exposed to that fact multiple times. Still surprising because he’s amazed how my often it happened each time

  • @sampagano205
    @sampagano205 Год назад +416

    Your channel and religion for breakfast do such a good job in collaborations. I hope you keep working together.

  • @Fang-ju2uz
    @Fang-ju2uz Год назад +127

    As a child I was brought up in a psuedo-Essene church. I've spent decades trying to find digestible information about them in order to move forward with my life and remove what was essentially a coping mechanism for the adults in charge of raising me. Thank you, and the rest of the religious scholar community, for shedding a light on who these people were historically.

    • @pragmaticcrystal
      @pragmaticcrystal Год назад

      💛💯

    • @Dunmerdog
      @Dunmerdog Год назад +1

      That’s fascinating and i hope that you’re doing well. Where are you from, if I may ask?

    • @justasreal5483
      @justasreal5483 Год назад +1

      JUST BE DISCERNING WITH YOUR RESEARCH AND LET YOUR HEART GUIDE YOU IN WHAT TO BELIEVE.

    • @pragmaticcrystal
      @pragmaticcrystal Год назад +10

      @@justasreal5483 your heart does not know how to use logic and reasoning your brain on the other hand…..

    • @TylerDWard
      @TylerDWard Год назад +1

      The heart does logic and reasoning every time it pumps. The logic gates are sodium potassium

  • @Angayasse
    @Angayasse Год назад +246

    I am absolutely loving when academics work together for the knowledge of us all. This gives me hope

    • @Ishi79
      @Ishi79 Год назад

      European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairy tale history and fake archeology.

    • @stevetournay6103
      @stevetournay6103 6 месяцев назад

      Philip and Andrew. How apostolic! 😁

  • @RestingJudge
    @RestingJudge Год назад +76

    I love Dr. John Bergsma's theory of John the Baptist being an excommunicated Essene. It really gives context for why he scavenged for food as the Qumran community took vows to not eat food prepared outside of the community, from what I remember, so eating locusts and wild honey was a neat little loophole when keeping that vow.

    • @brenosantana1458
      @brenosantana1458 Год назад +5

      There is a variant that does not say locusts in the gospel of the ebionites.

    • @martinbragalone
      @martinbragalone Год назад +2

      @@brenosantana1458
      Yes. Bread. The Hebrew Gospel of Matthew has this record

    • @emilyhutjes
      @emilyhutjes 11 месяцев назад +3

      Another translation of Locusts = shrub and tree foliage.

    • @madsdahlc
      @madsdahlc 4 месяца назад

      There is alsoa theory saying that Jesus might have been an Essene at some point with his cousin John. And that when John was excommunicated . He took a part of followers with him including his cousin Jesus and went solo . And for while Jesus was a deciplel of John. Untill John was arrested And exuted by Herod Antipas . And after that Johns movement spilt in two, as Jesus went solo with some of johns followers who supported him . And then Jesus made his own movement. And if Jesus had been part of Essene movement that preached celebacy . A lot of things about him makes sense .

  • @birgbirg111
    @birgbirg111 Год назад +121

    I love you Swedish Guy

  • @eyobworku2042
    @eyobworku2042 Год назад +46

    Please do a video on Ethiopian religious history. There are so so many fascinating stories.

    • @NIGHTGUYRYAN
      @NIGHTGUYRYAN Год назад +7

      YES! i agree! also there are aspects of ancient greek mythology that reference the Aethiopes. Andromeda is classically depicted as Aethiopian. im curious as to the specifics of that and other stories - i know there is discussions and debates around these topics

    • @korionterivers9995
      @korionterivers9995 Год назад +2

      @@NIGHTGUYRYAN Ethiopia of that time encompassed a much greater land mass than today. Basically everything under the 1st cataract was Ethiopia in ancient times

    • @hassanabdikarimmohamed2505
      @hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Год назад +4

      ​@@NIGHTGUYRYAN do not confused the Ethiopians ancient Greeks wrote about which were the people of Kingdom of Kush (land of Cush in Bible aka modern Sudan), with the country today called Ethiopia ....modern Ethiopia was in medieval times called Abyssinia and in Ancient times called Aksum ...modern Ethiopia stole the name Ethiopia from the successor kingdoms of the kingdom of Kush, Abyssinia invaded that last successor kingdoms in Sudan that were descended from the kingdom of Kush, after Ethiopia invaded this Sudan kingdom that became weak, Abyssinia then stole the name and called itself Ethiopia just like ottoman Turks stole the name Rome (Rumelia) and Caesar when they conquered a weakened Byzantine Roman empire
      My point is
      The ancient Greeks were very specific when they spoke of aetheiopia they always said it was a land that bordered Egypt to the south and full of warrior armies that were expert archers (fits the kingdom of Kush) and the Greeks even mentioned the cities and coastal ports of aetheiopia none were on modern Ethiopia all were in modern Sudan
      And I say this as a Somali
      The original ancient Ethiopia for thousands of years in the old testament was land of Cush aka Sudan kingdom of Kush
      The Greeks later changed the word to stop referring to one kingdom of Kush in Sudan and to refer to all of dark skinned Africa
      Ancient Ethiopia in a historical sense is only Sudan
      😊

  • @orsino88
    @orsino88 Год назад +23

    It’s a good day: a Let’s Talk Religion and Religion for Breakfast collaboration. All I need is a LTR-RFT-Esoterica meeting, and my life will be complete.

  • @Assault_Butter_Knife
    @Assault_Butter_Knife Год назад +12

    It's funny how I'm getting all these recommendations on religion after having finished watching evangelion. I don't think RUclips understands the difference lol
    But I'm not complaining, this was a very interesting watch

  • @adrianaslund8605
    @adrianaslund8605 Год назад +17

    I love how respectful yet learned and all encompassing this guy is. Ive learned the nuances of many things from this fellow.

  • @lauriemikhael9920
    @lauriemikhael9920 Год назад +22

    Thank you so very much for this very informative, knowledgeable video that you make to extend and share with your trusted teachings to the masses is so greatly appreciated.
    I've been researching the Essenes in detail along with The Dead Sea Scrolls or The Qumran Scrolls which excitingly still have much to decipher and discover.
    The Essenes (as a group of scholars) had an extremely important role in history, much more than known... And religion, which completely ruled the world in those days. The Essenes highly influenced the world, as we are uncovering and re-discovering.
    Interestingly, It has been suggested that Jesus Christ, himself, or maybe even John the Baptist, were members of the Essenes, or heavily influenced by them which separated itself from society at large and defined itself against Jerusalem, or more so The Temple in Jerusalem in protest, which does equate according to scripture, not to leave out other sects that have been influenced by them.
    The Essenes went to live in the wilderness, to live by themselves, totally isolated from the rest of the community. Jesus was known to verbally preach and spread his word for only 3 years, so perhaps during his missing years, he was living and learning as a part of the Essene sect or community being taught by them, learning and becoming a pundit, a rabbi, a priest (a Levite or a Cohen) even though he supposedly is known to come from the tribe of Judah) before he decided to leave to preach to society?! ...Just a thought.
    I sincerely thank you again along with Dr. Henry at 'Religion for Breakfast' who too has a very knowledgeable, learned, kind mind who is extremely credible and honorable.
    P.S.
    "Welcome to SCROLLS FROM THE DEAD SEA, The Ancient Library of Qumran and Modern Scholarship" www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/intro.html
    An extensive "Outline of Objects and Topics in Scrolls from the Dead Sea"www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/overview.html
    "The Qumran Library" (Scroll Fragments, Outline of Objects and Topics in Scrolls from the Dead Sea from the Qumran Library) www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/Library/library.html
    This is a interesting and great article by PBS that gives much insight on "The Essenes and The Dead Sea Scrolls" (The Dead Sea Scrolls: A New Translation by: Michael Wise Martin Abegg, Jr. Edward Cook, HarperSanFrancisco,'1996)
    :
    www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/essenes.html
    that connect to many of the scrolls to give insight on such as the
    "The Manual of Discipline" (The Community Rule):
    www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/community.html
    "The War Scroll" (an apocalyptic vision of the final battle between the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness):
    www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/scrolltranslation.html
    "War of the Sons of Light against the Sons of Darkness": www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/scrolltranslation.html

  • @MyMobu
    @MyMobu Год назад +33

    We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience.

    • @shawnhall3849
      @shawnhall3849 Год назад +3

      Well what if I tell you it doesn’t matter how you put it.

    • @garysergeant9086
      @garysergeant9086 Год назад

      Deep

    • @4bidden1
      @4bidden1 Год назад +1

      Prove it

    • @kuyab9122
      @kuyab9122 Год назад +1

      Says who?

    • @JohnG-xu8uk
      @JohnG-xu8uk Год назад +1

      a digital experience more likely. i cant wait to ascend to AI

  • @KingdomIsNow
    @KingdomIsNow Год назад +34

    I visited Qumran three times in one month. I went to some of the Dead Sea Scrolls caves. I enjoyed every moment. It is a very spiritual place. The Essenes were true believers. I encourage every believer to read and study the profound writings of the Dead Sea Scrolls. You will not regret it.

    • @helenamcginty4920
      @helenamcginty4920 Год назад +7

      I am female. So doubt I would find anything relevant to the life of 50% of humanity especially in this very male oriented group.

    • @lijohnyoutube101
      @lijohnyoutube101 6 месяцев назад

      I read parts of them at a huge exhibition many years ago as a female. They were one of the 100’s of stepping stones in life to confirm for me how absolutely ridiculous all religion is and nothing but indoctrination and cult nonsense.

    • @childpeanut5095
      @childpeanut5095 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@helenamcginty4920 “This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.”

    • @judod97
      @judod97 2 месяца назад

      @@helenamcginty4920women getting bitter more and more...

    • @judod97
      @judod97 2 месяца назад

      first of all,there is not much to study. Secondly,im not sure how natural formations of caves,that existed long before anyone tried to stash any ,,sceolls" (as many of the materials are nor scrolls per se) could be considered spiritual place. Pls explain

  • @crazygrl1203
    @crazygrl1203 7 месяцев назад +4

    This is my new favorite channel. The topics, content and your voice make the information easily understandable. Thank you for sharing!

  • @agd115
    @agd115 Год назад +52

    It makes sense that the Essenes would die out if they were celibate and therefore not reproducing. They were a small group to begin with and how many new volunteers could they possibly get? It is a very interesting topic. Thank you.

    • @CRneu
      @CRneu Год назад +8

      lol seems very much a dead end. Maybe they figured that their interpretation would attract more people or they just didn't think it mattered?

    • @ObeseGramps
      @ObeseGramps Год назад +8

      @@CRneu you know I thought something similar to that. Perhaps these were individuals who were so focused on being spiritually pure that in essence they achieved a pseudo effect that most Buddhist strive for, enlightenment. It could sound selfie and un-pure to a certain extent, but perhaps being fulfilled spiritually is all they wanted/needed. As they let go of their attachments to “worldly things” and outright avoid them, maybe someone started thinking “ya know I probably don’t need/want a family, I am already content on my own”

    • @chadkline4268
      @chadkline4268 Год назад +4

      Buddhist monks+nuns are celibate too.

    • @nenabunena
      @nenabunena 10 месяцев назад +4

      They're a monastic group, not meant to be applied to all

    • @chadkline4268
      @chadkline4268 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ObeseGramps haha, enlightenment is NOT a pseudo effect, hahaha. Yes, I am certain that all major spiritualities have the same basis, which is a disconnect of the spirit from flesh, and upon further development, a complete disassociation.

  • @potoole
    @potoole Год назад +9

    As always you do a masterful job. It manages to be just enough over my head to keep me on my toes and looking but not a black belt class that I couldn't even follow. Really appreciate your content. One of the true rare gems of youtube. Keep it up.

  • @bobSeigar
    @bobSeigar Год назад +9

    Amazing, I was excited to see another video from you Filip. Andrew being in here was a great treasure as well.

  • @elioftheforest
    @elioftheforest Год назад +8

    I’m simple, I see a Let’s Talk Religion video and I click

  • @ItisMoody
    @ItisMoody Год назад +47

    I just want to say that it was a really nice surprise to see Andrew Henry on your channel! I love his channel and I follow it passionately, as do I yours! Thank you both for the very interesting work you do 🙏🏼

  • @Delhi_Sultan
    @Delhi_Sultan Год назад +12

    Thank you, Filip. Another very interesting and informative video on a complex religious topic.

  • @georgesabikhalil186
    @georgesabikhalil186 Год назад +11

    Two of my favorite youtubers collaborating on an intresting video!

  • @Budguy68
    @Budguy68 Год назад +5

    I don't even know what to believe in sometimes with all these different religions but this channel is so fascinating!

    • @CRneu
      @CRneu Год назад

      the fact there are nearly countless interpretations of the same made up stories should tell you it's all nonsense. I'm not saying the history isn't fascinating but nobody should lead their life according to these made up stories.

    • @joe2times381
      @joe2times381 Месяц назад

      @@CRneu your wrong its history

  • @STR41GHTP4th
    @STR41GHTP4th Год назад +9

    I believe Qumraan is Imraan sometimes read as Umraan as well, mentioned in Qur'an. The house of Imraan or Umraan also included Zacharia, Yahya or John the baptist and Mary, as mentioned in Qur'an. This amazing.

    • @kornelia8627
      @kornelia8627 Месяц назад

      The Qu'ran is a compilation of Syro-Aramaic texts about Jesus. Islam has been initiated by the Catholics for their own purposes. Catolicism and Islam as well as Judaism as it is now are the ways which lead away from God. The only way to God is by following the Way Jesus, the Christ Consciousness, showed us. The Qu'ran is originated in nowadays Irak, not Palestine. Even Mekka did not exist in any ancient map. The region was called Arabia deserta, the desert of Arabia, hence nothing and nobody lived there. Islam has been created by men who do not follow the way, as they maintained slaves, harems and poligamy, physical Jihad and wars instead of inner Jihad and so on. They wronged our real early Christianity all together and are lying until today to the people.

  • @jchi4life
    @jchi4life Год назад +1

    Love the little collaboration, both of y’all are my best RUclips channels

  • @miledhayek7005
    @miledhayek7005 Год назад +20

    The discovery of the DSS was a discovery of a treasure for Biblical studies!!

    • @theloafabread4341
      @theloafabread4341 Год назад +5

      Initially read this as just “DS” and still agreed… was a dope gaming platform. Bring back pictochat

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Год назад

      Perhaps it will even detail why Romans 1:18 was not so fully effective, in heaven?

  • @exoplanet11
    @exoplanet11 Год назад +4

    Cool! It is about time these two excellent channels teamed up!

  • @JustSayin916
    @JustSayin916 Год назад +2

    Fabulous. As always, your broad and deep knowledge provides historical context and scholarly and sometimes surprising (a solar calendar!) details. And this time you included my other favorite religious scholar, Andrew Henry, and drawings from my favorite prophet, William Blake. So great. Thanks.

  • @cheaptrickfanatic3496
    @cheaptrickfanatic3496 6 месяцев назад +2

    Holy smokes..... absolutely FANTASTIC work. Bravo!

  • @esotericpilgrim548
    @esotericpilgrim548 Год назад +3

    Another land mark in to the study of humanity by Mr.Flip H. I see no chance of not seeming this academic investigation. With lots of appreciation, a sufi student from India ❤

  • @m.razifdwikurniawan-5132
    @m.razifdwikurniawan-5132 Год назад +29

    Just when I attended a book review seminar about Dead Sea Scrolls and Ashabul Kahfi (the sleepers in cave), this video came. What a great timing indeed.
    By the way the book titled "Naskah Laut Mati dan Ashabul Kahfi" by Wisnu Tanggap Prabowo. Probably the only book written in Indonesian about Dead Sea Scrolls.

  • @jameswatson9641
    @jameswatson9641 6 месяцев назад

    Of late, I've started watching the videos on this channel, i must admit i simply love them. I love both history and religion and also philosophy and so it seems a natural home to find myself here. Thank you for all you're wonderful work

  • @greatgambino
    @greatgambino 2 месяца назад

    as already said, great to see 2 of the most respected and knowledgeable peoples on you tube (at least from my stand point) working together! I have studied religions all my life (and practiced a few also!) and you guys are the only ones I can listen to without having the feeling to have to fact check you or have an outright disagreement. Your words are precise and very accurate and sometimes I have to listen twice to get exactly what you are saying. Keep up the good works you both are doing!! It may be esoteric but you are helping those of us on a spiritual level unseen.

  • @Mika-El-
    @Mika-El- Год назад +13

    The essenes have much importance in several mystery schools and esoteric traditions. Rosicrucianism, freemasonry, OTO, Rudolf Steiner, Edgar Cayce, some christian mystical sects. I wonder if there perhaps was a connection to the cathars, at least on a spiritual plane and/or some yet to be found texts? Speculation ofcourse, but a few days before the fall of Montsegur in 1244, three cathars escaped with a treasure. Most people I've spoken to who are deep into the cathar fate, believes it was invaluable scriptures, even the legendary 'Book of Love'.
    However, what puzzles me is the concept or knowledge about 'gilgul', reincarnation. Some early christian sects seems to have embraced that doctrine. Is it a post-nicene/roman catholic work to exclude it from the teaching as Cayce and others said? Available scriptures is very thin regarding this topic, to say the least.
    Great episode Filip, thank you.

  • @richardkasper5822
    @richardkasper5822 Год назад +7

    Thankyou Philepe for solving another piece of the puzzle of Christianity . .the never ending quest. It's so much more than most people imagine it to be..

  • @rjeckardt8863
    @rjeckardt8863 Год назад +1

    So interesting. Thank you, Filip and Andrew.

  • @moamin.aljaro
    @moamin.aljaro Год назад +2

    My two favorite channels on religion in one video

  • @user-hu8tw2ot3t
    @user-hu8tw2ot3t Год назад +8

    another amazing video. thank you phillip for always spreading this knowledge to those who want to seek and learn. would love to see a video on sethian gnostics

  • @soniya6908
    @soniya6908 Год назад +3

    omg! i've just discovered ur channel coupla days ago and belive it or not i was like: hm, does this guy have a video on essenes - and here you go!

  • @jerryg3524
    @jerryg3524 22 дня назад

    Wow! this video is excellent! Here the obscure Qumran community is more clearly & scholarly explained than I have seen elsewhere, with great images that illustrate it beautifully. Thank you

  • @a88aiello
    @a88aiello 4 месяца назад

    Greatly informative! It really puts some things into perspective. Fascinating to see what these ancient communities were like.

  • @classictoby5309
    @classictoby5309 Год назад +3

    My two favorite theology RUclipsrs collabed!!! Awesome video as always, both channels are so dope

    • @_modrzew_
      @_modrzew_ Год назад

      History of religion is not theology 🙂

  • @garethsmith3036
    @garethsmith3036 Год назад +11

    This is such a great community

    • @ChessPlayer78
      @ChessPlayer78 Год назад

      ruclips.net/user/shortsU2INTPWbvoQ?feature=share

  • @ferencivanics9980
    @ferencivanics9980 Год назад +2

    Thank you! Excellent...as always.

  • @colingallagher1648
    @colingallagher1648 Год назад +1

    once again a great video as always many thanks

  • @cameronfox7784
    @cameronfox7784 Год назад +26

    Love the channel. A full video on the Book of Enoch as teased here would be great!

    • @gubruikertje
      @gubruikertje Год назад +2

      There already is a video on the book of Enoch (and Enoch II)!

    • @emilyhutjes
      @emilyhutjes 11 месяцев назад

      I am Dutch. I read Enoch -1- in that very old English. It took me very much time and looking up the Heavens for help, to be able to comprehend what was written. (R.H. Charles)

  • @Kleshumara
    @Kleshumara Год назад +12

    Great video, as always! Minor pronunciation note: righteousness, ‘zedek’- this ‘z’ stands for the consonant ts/tz rather than z, at least in modern Hebrew. Reconstructing the pronunciation of Hebrew in the biblical and 2nd-Temple eras is tricky since evidence is scarce.

    • @freemindoverleaningheart226
      @freemindoverleaningheart226 Год назад +1

      The same word ' zedek' does exist in Arabic with the same pronunciation and meaning, which may suggest that YHWY and ALLAH are the same "Human Invention !". Except that the Jew and Arab 'Scholars' ' created a God that would fit their masters'eagerness to reign over their subjects.

  • @colindeer9657
    @colindeer9657 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for all of your research. Much appreciated. I really enjoyed this presentation. Cheers Colin 🇦🇺

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 Год назад

    Thanks so much for posting

  • @tcl5853
    @tcl5853 Год назад +4

    Outstanding presentation!

  • @lisadwyer9699
    @lisadwyer9699 Год назад +3

    Delores Cannon’s book, Jesus & the Essenes is a great read that dovetails this

    • @EvaBogardFlorida
      @EvaBogardFlorida Год назад

      Reading Dolores' book right now. I'd like to learn more about the Kaloo. Any pointers?

  • @Nuck-Fo0bZz
    @Nuck-Fo0bZz Год назад

    I did. I wrote them.
    Kidding. Love your videos man. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @emmcee662
    @emmcee662 Год назад

    Thank you!! A very interesting and instructive video ❤

  • @SeekersofUnity
    @SeekersofUnity Год назад +12

    Fire episode. Thank you Filip 🙏🏼

  • @SolveetCoagula
    @SolveetCoagula Год назад +3

    I think you sort of misrepresented the Catholic Apocrypha; their absence from the Masoretic text-and presence in the Vulgate-is representative of the inclusion of the Jewish books written in Greek during the Seleucid occupation into the Septuagint (and then later Protestants ignorantly deeming such texts less authentic when the Septuagint is older than the Masorite's version).
    Awesome collaboration guys.

  • @wordawakeningny
    @wordawakeningny Год назад

    Great teaching Mr. Holm!

  • @beachnuttybrad8926
    @beachnuttybrad8926 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your knowledge you share with us.

  • @naradaian
    @naradaian Год назад +3

    It would be most interesting to hear your take on the Ceasers Messiah hypothesis of Achariya - she says Josephus Flavius was a member of the ruling Flavians and so isnt neutral in any sense and that to deracinate the crazy Hebrew volatility a ‘new’ Jewish religion with ‘love thy enemy’ as a big part of it….so that the gospels are part of. flavian plot in the second and third century ie whennthe New Testament appears…..Achrya was quite a scholar ….and died very young on Christmass Day …..ha! However she had a huge following and James Atwill and others follow her wake
    Anyway you reminded me of her when I saw Josephus popping up. The RUclips channel is Ceasers Messiah
    Re, Qumran Jhn Allegro had a lot to say about the place and the weapons and fortified aspects of the architecture……..worthy of thought….seeibg its the Mushroom Man himself and was on the translation team until thrown off…

  • @theloafabread4341
    @theloafabread4341 Год назад +9

    The fragmented nature of these artifacts makes me wonder if there are any particularly frustrating instances where an interesting passage isn’t preserved in its entirety, essentially leading to our speculation? You might know, and it could be a cool topic :) Epic video as always!

  • @mandarinmelon
    @mandarinmelon Год назад

    Thank you for this content.

  • @shayes610
    @shayes610 Год назад +2

    keep up the good work!

  • @sharonjuniorchess
    @sharonjuniorchess Год назад +6

    The Essene's also considered themselves healers and were a secret society. So much of their 'knowledge' was not written down but alluded to in their writings.

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch Год назад +3

    Fascinating stuff. Nice work as usual.
    Thanks. Cheers from cool Vienna, Scott

  • @Emsallamvdie
    @Emsallamvdie Год назад +1

    Im from jordan where this archaeological gems were found.. thanks for informing me in depth about this topic. I wonder if you can do a competitive video about the content of these scrolls and the mainstream bible and the Old Testament

  • @MuftiMasala
    @MuftiMasala Год назад

    Luv ur channel bro. Learnt so much from you 🤲

  • @mahatmarandy5977
    @mahatmarandy5977 Год назад +5

    When I was younger there was this concept that the Essenes were pacifists, but in the literature I've read, there doesn't seem to be any real definitive reason to believe this, though it's entirely possible that I'm just missing something. Dr. Robert Eisenman (Who seems to me to be a bit of a historical conspiracy theorist, and I don't take him as authoritative, but I do find him interesting) suggests the possibility of an alliance between the Essenes and the Zealots in the first Jewish War, though he also spews a bunch of nonsense about the "Teacher of Righteousness", so, again, he could be completely off his nut about it. I'm curious, though: is such an alliance between Essenes and Zealots (Josephus' "Fourth Way") a possibility? And if it happened, might that have explained their abrupt disappearance from history?

  • @theophilos0910
    @theophilos0910 Год назад +83

    According to Origen (‘near Jericho rock caves were discover’d by Palestinian Bedouin shepherds [c. 217 CE] containing jars with Hebrew/Aramaic & Greek scrolls written on goatskin-Jews came in droves & carted them off’… later Timotheos I wrote [c. 790 CE] (‘jars containing Hebrew scrolls were found by Bedouin in rock caves near Jericho-Jews came in droves & carted them off…’ and in 1865 a set of 1st person (‘and YHWH said to me’) extracts [written c. 110 BCE] from the book of Deuteronomy written in paleoHebrew Ugaritic preHerodian script were unearth’d by Bedouin in Rock Caves at Seccacah-Qumran near the Dead Sea… then in Dec 1946 Bedouin found scrolls in jars in several rock caves in the same area and the era of The Dead Sea Scrolls officially began - but by that time, the caves had been already rifl’d through at least 3 times by Bedouin over the centuries … one must bear these facts in mind when discussing the 1946/1947 re-discoveries…

    • @drjdharrisphd10712
      @drjdharrisphd10712 Год назад +6

      Source?

    • @ne0nmancer
      @ne0nmancer Год назад +7

      @@drjdharrisphd10712 He literally cited Origen, look it up.

    • @drjdharrisphd10712
      @drjdharrisphd10712 Год назад +13

      @@ne0nmancer that’s not how citations work

    • @theophilos0910
      @theophilos0910 Год назад +21

      @@drjdharrisphd10712 - for Origen’s use in his famous HEXAPLA textual study of the OT using some of the Greek & Hebrew scrolls unearth’d by Arab boys in c. 217 CE you can consult the Greek text of Euseubeius (Ecclesiastical History, Book VI, chapter 16:1ff) ; Roger Pearse has laid out the quotation from the Syrian Metropolitan Timotheos I from c. 790 CE in a letter to the Metropolitan of Susa (Elam) in letter 47 : ‘We have it on good authority from certain credible Jewish converts to Christ who would not lie or deceive us that 10 years ago scrolls were discover’d in jars in rock caves near Jericho by local Bedouin Arab boys looking for goats in the clefts of the rock cliffs - apparently one of the Bedouin’s dogs had entered a cleft in the rock face but failed to come out and when they hoisted themselves into the dwelling space which had been carved directly out of the rock itself they found a number of jars containing scrolls written in Hebrew & Greek - some were brought to certain Rebbes in Jerusalem to sell them -but before long Jews came in droves to the site and carted everything away - what they found when they unrolled the scrolls to read them were copies of the Tanakh along with a number of other Hebrew texts no longer part of the Hebrew canon including a number of unknown psalms and other prophetic books-and when I asked if any of these extra canonical scrolls lin’d up with untraceable quotations of ‘scripture’ that Christians sometimes come across in the New Testament (e.g. Jude 1:14-17 viz Henoch & the Assumption of Moses etc) they replied that indeed those previously unknown texts were in the jars that the Bedouin brought them…’
      Does this help any ?

    • @drjdharrisphd10712
      @drjdharrisphd10712 Год назад +4

      @@theophilos0910 thanks! I’ll look into this when I can

  • @theresarezac7502
    @theresarezac7502 Месяц назад

    I really enjoyed this presentation on the dead sea scrolls!

  • @Bigsmoke11001
    @Bigsmoke11001 Год назад +2

    The amount of religions never seases to amaze me.

  • @jayplay8140
    @jayplay8140 Год назад +8

    a lot of the practices of the Essenes sound incredibly similar to the practices of the Catholic Clergy

    • @nathanjohnwade2289
      @nathanjohnwade2289 Год назад

      Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. Anyone who says otherwise is either, ignorant or full of hate/racism.

    • @jayplay8140
      @jayplay8140 Год назад

      @@nathanjohnwade2289I'd say people would describe it as more substantial than a branch

    • @WeekzGod
      @WeekzGod Год назад +1

      The community was now the temple…straight out of Orthodoxy

  • @timetravel099
    @timetravel099 Год назад +6

    Your videos are a cure for insomnia

  • @chables74
    @chables74 Год назад +1

    Great listen!

  • @markjohnson543
    @markjohnson543 Год назад

    Very well done. Thank you!

  • @aasemahsan
    @aasemahsan Год назад +3

    0:57 Historical accounts about the Essenes
    6:27 Dead Sea Scrolls
    10:35 Jewish community of Qumran
    18:27 Were the Qumran community Essenes?/Did the Essenes write the dead sea scrolls?
    19:17 Essene beliefs (by Religion for Breakfast 😄)

    • @Ishi79
      @Ishi79 Год назад

      European colonialism continues.. this time they steal your land with fairy tale history and fake archeology.

    • @Ishi79
      @Ishi79 Год назад +1

      1492, European colonialism: We discovered America.
      1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
      The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairy tales, are European colonialism.

    • @adamwarsaw4511
      @adamwarsaw4511 2 месяца назад +1

      Name of israel is over 3500 years old ​@Ishi79

  • @ilovesunny8887
    @ilovesunny8887 Год назад +3

    Im a muslim and I find the dead sea scrolls really interesting

  • @REEDRICHARDS2
    @REEDRICHARDS2 6 месяцев назад

    THANK you very much for this video. Very enlightening.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 Год назад +2

    I have seen this documentary before. This is another great one. Thank you. "THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS." MANY BOOKS ON THIS SUBJECT AND DOCUMENTARIES. ❤️✨️

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 Год назад

      SOME OF THESE TEXTS THAT WERE FOUND IN THE CAVES, THE VATICAN OWNS SOME, ISRAEL HAS SOME ,STILL YEARS OF RESEARCH BEING DONE ON THEM, THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE BOUGHT SOME, BUT THEY WERE NOT REAL. SO MAY THE RESEARCH CONTINUE.

    • @TheRealWilliamWhite
      @TheRealWilliamWhite Год назад +1

      @Anna Magnani why are you yelling?

    • @cheri238
      @cheri238 Год назад

      @@TheRealWilliamWhiteWhat ? I AM NOT YELLING. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? LOL 🌷

    • @TheRealWilliamWhite
      @TheRealWilliamWhite Год назад

      @Anna Magnani YOU'RE STILL YELLING.

    • @booksanimeenthusiast3802
      @booksanimeenthusiast3802 Год назад

      @@cheri238 if you write in all caps means you are yelling.

  • @EverythingsComplicated
    @EverythingsComplicated Год назад +5

    woooooo a Let's Talk Religion For Breakfast collab :3

  • @qarljohnson4971
    @qarljohnson4971 Год назад +3

    I do have an intuitive feeling that the timing of the finding of both the Qumran scrolls and the Nag Hammadi texts, within a few years after the creation of atomic weapons, is a synchronicity worthy of contemplation.
    It would also be interesting to see what modern scholars now think of former Qumran scholar leader, John Allagro, most provocative takes that encoded in these early texts, are the myths of a mushroom/entheogenic cult.

  • @erlinggaratun6726
    @erlinggaratun6726 Месяц назад

    According to a paper by Steven Goranson (or Goran Stevenson) at Duke university, the wicked priest is Alexander Yennai and the righteous teacher is Judah the essene, briefly mentioned by Josephus. I think he presents a very strong case, based on the tekstual evidence in the DSScrolls and Habakkuk.

  • @MohammedAlHaydarii
    @MohammedAlHaydarii Год назад +1

    Amazing information brother good job

  • @OffRampTourist
    @OffRampTourist Год назад +4

    Great topic and video!

  • @optimystic5839
    @optimystic5839 Год назад +3

    I can read and write in the Dead Sea Scroll Herodian Script, the exact writing which would have been used in Jesus’ times. I am also currently attempting to revive Aramaic used in the Second Temple.

    • @Tinyteacher1111
      @Tinyteacher1111 Год назад

      That is SO cool!
      Love your screen name!

    • @debrawhitney7116
      @debrawhitney7116 Год назад

      This is incredibly interesting. I'm now studying Hebrew with my rabbi. I'd love to know more about your studies. Chag Sameach.

  • @memrjohnno
    @memrjohnno Год назад +1

    I thought it was accepted knowledge that the term 'Essenes' referred to a subset of very similar clans, tribes, communities etc. Great informative video so thanks.

  • @jeffreyforeman5031
    @jeffreyforeman5031 Год назад

    great job enjoyed the topic and you are very good

  • @francisgruber3638
    @francisgruber3638 Год назад +3

    John the Baptist is often treated rather fruitfully as a link between the Essenes and the followers of Jesus. And the gospel of Luke plays in that field, with John’s mother, Elizabeth, being relative and spiritual guide to Jesus’ mother, Mary. Likewise, John’s father appears as a Temple priest whose mystical experience in the Holies serve to alienate him from mainstream temple worshippers, and lead to him surrendering John to the desert (Qumran?) to grow up.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Год назад

      Good, @Francis Gruber . Also, are we going to learn why Satan was owed so much, post exile? Including to keep so many powers?

    • @francisgruber3638
      @francisgruber3638 Год назад

      ​@@chrissonofpear1384 thank you.
      Satan certainly takes on a progressively higher profile in the post exilic world. In the Enoch Book (found at Qumran) the generations till the messiah are outlined by number that equals the length of Luke's genealogy of Jesus; who emerges, after all, as the despoiler of demonic enclaves.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Год назад

      @@francisgruber3638 Didn't that text point to a fulfilment earlier, and for the world to end, after that? The 70 generations prophecy, too?
      And yes, it is a higher profile - with more and more opaque backstory, oftentime.
      And why the 'enclaves' even exist, is another matter - let alone within a kiloparsec of this particular world?

    • @francisgruber3638
      @francisgruber3638 Год назад

      I cannot gainsay exactly when the authors of Enoch anticipated the end of the covenant age that they envisioned. One might just assume that the author of the gospel of Luke enumerated his genealogy of Jesus to piggyback off the popular Enoch apocalypse, of 70 generations. As far as demonic enclaves, whether or not they should exist in a strictly monotheistic worldview, the ancients could hardly doubt that they did, given larger scale societal dynamics. So these diabolical forces also provide the gospels with a rich context to announce a messianic arrival.

  • @agucci
    @agucci Год назад +5

    Interesting. But yeah, academics don't make their careers by agreeing with each other :)

  • @RatzoMcFatso
    @RatzoMcFatso Год назад +2

    Really nice video. Great to see Dr. Henry. Great work!

  • @ozgurbirey5402
    @ozgurbirey5402 Год назад

    Great work. Thank you very much.

  • @Ishi79
    @Ishi79 Год назад +2

    1492, European colonialism: We discovered America.
    1916, European colonialism: We are liberating the Holy land.
    The imaginary state of Israel, master of fairy tales, are European colonialism.

    • @Kwisatz-Chaderach
      @Kwisatz-Chaderach 5 месяцев назад +1

      Awwwww...Somebody's ancestors bad at war? 😢

    • @judod97
      @judod97 2 месяца назад

      it is difficult not to hold the grudge for destroyed cultures around the globe. However,it was christian church,not Europe,who should be to blame🙂

  • @TerribleShmeltingAccident
    @TerribleShmeltingAccident Год назад +5

    Ohhh boy I been waiting on this 1🤓
    Sidenote:
    When I was in grade school we performed an experiment where my classmates and I would form a big circle. The teacher would whisper a sentence in the 1st students ear and he would turn to the next kid and then whisper the sentence in his ear who would turn and whisper into the 3rd kids ear, so on and so forth. By the last student the sentence wouldn’t be anything close to its starting form lol. How tf did these stories make it GENERATIONS?!

    • @Tj33372
      @Tj33372 Год назад

      Realistically they haven’t, they’re more myths and epics, not based on reality

    • @Tj33372
      @Tj33372 Год назад

      Sometimes the simpler answer is the right one

    • @NawazKhan-ui6eo
      @NawazKhan-ui6eo Год назад

      thats why Quran is preserved by memorisation

    • @CRneu
      @CRneu Год назад

      it's a game called "telephone". there's even a podcast based on this idea called "Normal Gossip". Humans are incredibly bad at remembering details as we tend to make things about ourselves/experiences. we hear what we want to hear and forget most of it.

    • @CRneu
      @CRneu Год назад

      @@NawazKhan-ui6eo what you said makes no sense. humans are incredibly poor at memorization. passing something down by "memorizing" is always going to lead to errors because humans are fallible.

  • @MartinWeinelt_Kiel
    @MartinWeinelt_Kiel Год назад +1

    Another great lecture. Thanks

  • @thiagozequim
    @thiagozequim Год назад

    great video. Thanks for doing it

  • @lowwastehighmelanin
    @lowwastehighmelanin Год назад +10

    I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and this sounds like an ancient, Jewish version of that. I'm...horrified. I've seen the Dead Sea Scrolls. My parents took me out of school for a day and my ENTIRE extended family went to San Francisco to go looj at what I distinctly remember as a child thinking "were just some old papers with Hebrew on them". My grandma hit me for saying that. I stand by it all these decades later. TBH the obsession with purity reminds me of Hassidic values but much older.
    Anyway we'd call this a cult now, pretty certain of it. Very interesting to know that kind of thing was possible in the ancient world as well.

    • @yungedubsavage189kichii2
      @yungedubsavage189kichii2 Год назад +9

      Such a narrow minded way to look at it

    • @angelawossname
      @angelawossname Год назад

      I was thinking the same thing, it definitely sounds like a high control group/cult, and would absolutely fit the BITE model. Cults are not a recent invention, they have always existed. That doesn't mean there is nothing to learn from their texts, though, and it's still fascinating.

    • @smoke5985
      @smoke5985 Год назад +1

      @@yungedubsavage189kichii2 Not really. The opposite actually lol

    • @bernardcornellisvanmeijere4375
      @bernardcornellisvanmeijere4375 Год назад

      Hassids aren't nearly as obsessed with purity as the Essenes where.

  • @Facerip
    @Facerip Год назад +3

    Love your stuff around DSS and early christianity. Thanks for some enlightening stuff, even for a plebian atheist like me. :)

  • @zenlikestate96
    @zenlikestate96 Год назад

    Great video! What is the snippet of choral music you use on your intro card? I feel like i know it and its on the tip of my tongue lmao

  • @monicacarrilllo
    @monicacarrilllo 10 месяцев назад

    At the beginning I was thinking "I wonder if he has beef with Religion For Breakfast" and then bam! Its our boy lol Great vid as always, its exciting see my fav channels crossover.

  • @gatafan4
    @gatafan4 Год назад +2

    And yes is there a story about the travel between Musa and Khidr , in the Jewish Books , from the story in surah Kehf....thx

  • @pikachu7748
    @pikachu7748 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the great video! Could you make a video on the development of the concepts of heaven and hell in the Abrahamic religions?

  • @GaramondGourmond
    @GaramondGourmond Год назад

    My two fav religion guys working together. Yay!

  • @moosesnWoop
    @moosesnWoop Год назад

    Need to visit again, so many wonders to Learn about