DCS | GrayFlag Marianas | Virpil Controls

My first time playing GrayFlag Marianas, a lot of fun was had despite the diffcult terrain to operate the Apache.
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[@chriselsen8005]

Hi Mav, some great flying there, really impressed with your combat-approaches to landing. I've got Virpil-gear for HOTAS and Crosswinds for torque-pedals but somehow it all goes wobbly when a get into low speeds when getting into a hover (or staying in a hover for a longer time) or easing down towards landing. Feels like the torque goes off to live a life of its own and the heli starts fishtailing. Trimmer for the cyclic is set to instant and for pedals it's set for pedals without springs (as I've effectively disconnected the spring). Would it possible to talk about your HOTAS settings for the Apache and how to work together with the different hold modes ? Is there anyway to know when your next Apache livestream is gonna be ? Thanks.

[@104thMaverick]

Hi Chris, sounds like we have very similar set ups.
I’m planning on flying Apache tonight but if you don’t catch the stream I’ll be doing multiple Apache flights this week.

[@Mark_Point]

I fly Apache with MFG crosswinds (+ virpil hotas) and also had trouble in the past. I now use them with the damper and no center spring (no game trim applied either). Main change was to turn curves off entirely. The curves off made a big difference as I found they were interfering with the apache heading hold breakout values. When flying it seemed to not want to turn before suddenly breaking out and rotating quickly as it got into the steeper part of my curve settings. Try reducing/removing your curves and practicing pedal turns in a GE hover. Heading hold is always on so you have to learn the feel of the breakout value. As MFG (and other high end) pedals are very sensitive and have a wide movement there isn't really a need for curves unlike a short sprung joystick, which is also what I have.

[@chriselsen8005]

@@Mark_Point Thank you for this feedback, it is really appreciated. I'll have to look into the curve because my logic on that was "inverted 🙃" : I was thinking the more curve the less sensitive the pedals get.

[@Mark_Point]

@@chriselsen8005 Curves give you non-linear sensitivity so the shallow section is less sensitive but the steeper section is more sensitive. If 90% of your inputs are small (and your curves are not negative value) then you will not get into the more sensitive section. With the apache heading hold breakout, the lower sensitivity will require more physical input to get to the breakout value and then (depending on your curve value) it will start to get more sensitive and breakout too quickly and fast. I kept reducing curves until I found that 0 gave me the control I was expecting. For a while I kept adding more curve to help but this actually made it worse. Its different to other helis as they do not have a permanent heading hold mode.

[@chriselsen8005]

@@Mark_Point All your tips helped a lot. It's much more stable now. Not all the way there yet, more practice needed. Thanks.