Huion Kamvas 13 (Gen 3) Review
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This tablet is surprisingly good. Huion tried to cut some corners by using inexpensive components like the plastic shell and not including as many things in the box. But the screen looks great and the pen is great which puts this on my list of best Huion products out there at a great price.
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Looks impressive - I can remember when the first Huions and XP-Pens came out (among other "alternative" brands) and you had to make sacrifices by not going Wacom. Seems like the only sacrifice now is paying extra for the Wacom version.
Their EMR pen tech has gotten so good, contrary to what many think its not due to X levels of pressure but instead is due to lower IAF and increased max pressure range which has vastly improved the pen performance with the recent XP and Huion's models.
I'm really loving how Huion and XP-Pen keep upstaging each other. Two years ago we had XP-Pen dropping Gen 2 budget tablets that were better than Huion and this year it's starting to be vice-versa. It's making them shell out better products. Last year I got an XPPen Artist Pro 16 2nd gen, and when my friend asked me for tablet recommendations to replace her aging Cintiq, I recommended the new Huion 19 because of the touch screen and that it had so many positive reviews on how the pen handled.
My only gripe with these new textured screen tablets is that regardless of if I use plastic or felt nibs, my tablet has outlasted all the nibs it came with in just barely a year. 😂
I’ve been drawing on a 10 inch iPad. 13 inches is sooo much bigger than I’m used to. The size is def not a problem
I love that buttons and dials are back!
the were never gone... well, the dial is new... but the previous generation of non pro huion kamvas had buttons, i have a 16 inch one, and it has 8 (6 on the 13 inch version) round buttons on two bigger ones...
They only removed them on the pro version because they give you a remote instead
@@segments2156it wasnt in the previous kamvas series
@@jomsies yes it was. Look at "Huion Kamvas 13 2nd gen" on the internet, the buttons were there...
But yeah, there are other kamvas series without buttons, it's true, and i never said otherwise, but the one this new model is replacing is the one i have, and it had buttons...
The ones without buttons are the 19 inches and above models, and the 16 inches 4k version... all the others have buttons, just look on Huion's site.
TWO dials??? 😮
Very exciting that they’ve figured out the wobble! Very impressive!!!
i kinda like this design... i hope they make a 16" version
Exactly what I'm waiting for.
I ordered mine yesterday. Hasn't shipped yet but watching this video makes me even more excited. I hope it has a long lifespan.
I am impressed by how much Huion improved their products in terms of performance keeping them in a low price, they also sovled the software and now is not giving problems, they are doing a really great job.
Holy cow, been waiting for this
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I still use the v1 of the Huion 13 and still really enjoy it, so I can't imagine how nice the v3 is ♥️ I'm not much of a digital artist and mostly just use it for rough sketches/as a second monitor when traveling, but if I ever needed to upgrade I know what I'd go with :)
At that price range it actually makes it Wacom Killer.
said no one ever
@@ckPinson-n4j Yes. Someone did say it. Me, and you read it.
It depends on how it really compares in actual "control" (doing small details, etc). There's more to it than line wobble, as I compared an old classic intuos Pro XL and it provided better line control than huion Kamvas 22". But it is REALLY good that there's no line wobble in this tiny model (here's hoping same luck for the future gen 3 larger models). All I say is that, by experience of comparing myself these two brands products, using both intensively (and the Wacom being way much older)... I'd have to really test these on my own, to know for sure. Learned that the hard way :).
Hey Brad another great video. I feel like many of these "Budget" display tablets are all people may need especially for getting started. I used an XP-pen 12 or 13 pro (dont remember the exact specs) and it was great to get started so I could save up for my ipad (which was then stolen) So I have gone back to the XP-pen artist and it has definitely gotten me bye as I save up yet again for another Ipad or tab s9.
Just curious.... Would you consider a larger XP, instead? (22, 19, 24...). I have a tab S7 FE, it has more than enough processing and RAM for painting (unless it's a quite large project for print), but it is quite a way lower/limited painting experience compared to drawing on a big tablet (and a big enough display). And the issues are the same with an ipad (even the latest Pro). Also, besides that, even the iPad with a slightly better software ecosystem falls really short compared to what you can get on a desktop (or laptop). I paint (now only occasionally, I just use a big intuos + pc or laptop, but gave it a serious try for months) with the s7 FE, but I would very much regret the purchase if weren't that it is fantastic for standard uses, like just browsing, consuming anything audio or video (great sound and good image quality). But definitely that was not the plan for it, but using it for painting. And I can paint with it, no problems, but it's way worse than any pen display (from 19" and up, specially 24) or even the combo of a classic tablet, PC and regular monitor, with what I do all my pro work.
@@3polygonshonestly I’d consider it. I like the portability of the iPad or galaxy tab. But at the same time I have probably drawn on it away from my desk maybe twice lol. If I went larger I’d want a quality touch display as my brain has just gotten used to touch controls
@@PaulKaseta If you are only sketching... or doing art _very_ casually, an iPad or S9 FE+ (or Ultra, anything equal or above 12.4 inches with 6GB or 8 GB RAM) makes total sense. And it's a mini computer with wifi which you can carry everywhere in the house, and even outside (for interiors, really). I'm not comfy with it for serious work, but that's personal to each one. I just don't see it as a daily driver for full day work, every day. In terms of the iPad, I'd totally get the iPad AIR 13" (not the 11) with the new Pen pro and m2 processor rather than the new iPad Pro 13 (m4). As you get all needed and a decent size with this solution (new AIR 13) for a lot less money. And I am not convinced on OLED's risks (the new AIR has yet the retina LED that is so great. OLED free ;) ). If being completely honest, if money is less of an issue, I'd go for the iPad AIR 13". Better software ecosystem. Procreate and ArtStudio Pro are amazing, and you can purchase Affinity to get every advanced software for image editing and vectors. And I prefer the ipad's screen's ratio (proportion) for painting. Even if the S9s' ratio is better for media/movies/series consumption.
If you need all touch functions it becomes complicated with pen displays... at least if willing to stay in "reasonable" cost. Many of the budget options don't have those. Plus touch functions are not really well implemented in most desktop software (for Windows, macOS). In the best case, not like in tablet's "apps". But in exchange, those apps are toys compared to professional software on desktop... Kind of.
@@3polygons I do have affinity, and I agree with the air 13 reccomendation. I think ultimately thats just going to be my best bet. Thanks for the advice! I do more than light sketching, more comic and light 2d animation work. But even my 5th gen air could handle all that but the extra screen real estate on the air 13 would be great
The thing I never understood is that my 15in Wacom needs a huge power brick, whereas my previous Parblo tablet just needed a USB connection.
Interesting! for that price i'm intrigued!
YES thank you sooooo MUCH man i just bought it like some mins ago soo to see should a good review make me happy 😊❤
I've been waiting for his review since the relase of this tablet 😭😭😭
Looks like an excellent deal, i wish Huion invested more on Brazil's market. Options are extremely limited and expensive here😔💔
I've been waiting sooo lonnngggg forrrr thissssss
I have been waiting on your review of this.
Finally built in dials on a Kamvas, now I'm just gonna wait for it to appear on a 16.
I loved the glove dance! ❤❤❤❤
Oh wow I'm here early. Excited to watch!
Hi brad, so like I got the gen 2 model the day gen 3 was announced
It still great though
Thanks for this I know now how to support my daughter's dream. Great content.
They also have Linux support nice.
I use the inspiroy dial 2 which has 2 dials but no screen and I love it. I mainly use it for animation and video and the dual dials are great. If they release a new kamvas pro 16 with the dual dials, I'll be seriously tempted.
I have the 2.5k pro. Can you find out if it is the pen that is making the lines that good? It'd be great if that pen was the fix and can be used to upgrade a current tablet .
I'd wish... but I am afraid it is often a combination of the pen, the tablet grid and build process... But who knows. It's relatively inexpensive if the new pen would solve that. In other products and brands, the situation is also heavily affected by the tablet, so, while I would totally try it before buying a new tablet, I would not be too hopeful...
We really need to stop calling this tablets "entry level", the quality in this latest tablets is just incredible, you can say goodbye to the wacom´s monopoly on drawing tablets.
PD: Wacom one is trash, and nobody uses touch, unless your using an standalone tablet.
It's only entry level for the size. Other than that, no line wobble, 2 disks, 3 pen side buttons, solid pen.... well, the colors seem accurate, but "default" color accuracy is (a bit of a myth) just an starting point. It needs to be seen how it behaves once calibrated by a colorimeter, but good default values are a really good sign. But if it is decent enough, it's all you need, *if* counting as well on a good calibrated main monitor, to check values and tones. For me, every tablet from any brand below what would be a standard monitor size is entry level for full day, intensive, complex and accurate work (in my experience, 13 and 16 for that don't cut it). But fully agreeing on your opinion about the W. One. Being a brand that excels in quality, totally flopped big time in that product line, it's well known among professionals. Like with the companion/studio. The rest of the product line is pure excellence, as much as we can complain about the price (rightly so).
Hard agree, touch on pen displays is kinda pointless as you have keyboard shortcuts/macropad/TourBox to your disposal and your non-dominant hand will most likely be planted there all the time.
Gives the impression of being convenient to pan/zoom around your canvas so intuitively, but the least thing you want is to add more stress to your dominant hand with constant touch gestures and the shenanigans that might happen from touch such as miss-clicks.
Waiting for the UGEE UE 16 review.
If they went with 2.5k display it would be invisible, it is also a fire product without that anyway but it would be a great addon.
*this is good for students/beginners and intermediate users.*
Side note Brad do these tablets have tilt? And could you demo that in future videos? I use it a lot in my day to day and would love to see how it performs on non-Wacom tablets
For this Price with the newest Pen an Express Keys and two dials i think i Order one. Great Video! 👍
XP Pen has two with 2 scrolling wheels. Artist Pro 22 and 24.
4:55- "sick beat"
thing about huion tablets is i think you should put a fan next to it i think i breaks easier because of the overtime heat
If they make this in 16", even at 1080P, I will instantly buy it if it has those two dials.
Hello brad if you see this comment can you review the realme pad I been curious because I hear it is close to ipad but is probably hard for you to get but this is just my curiosity 😊
I wish they would just announce/release all the Gen 3's at or around the same time... so how long are we going to have to wait for the 16 inch version?
mr Brad, ive been watching for years now and all i can do is wish i had a drawing tablet so i can take bigger steps towards my dream of being a youtube animator. Sadly amazon doesnt ship to Nigeria cheap. import fees are super expensive. i was wondering if i can get some help from you. loved the video by the way. Always a banger.
Still waiting available at my country 😔
Thanks for the video, Brad.
Question for you or anyone - With a tablet like this, can I be drawing on the display, press a button (on the tablet or on the pen), temporarily use the screen as if it were a plain drawing tablet to control my other monitor (with hover visible on that other monitor since the tablet would be showing something completely different), then press a button and go back?
I have an xp pen 10 2nd gen and sometimes it feels so tiny that i cant see clearly, i now know that the bigger the better.. wish i could change for 12 inchs😅
Still using Photoshop?
What else?
How often do you update your "The Best Screen Based Tablets" list? Because I dont see this one on it and I'm curious to know if its accurate so I can know I can compare
Is your comic ever gonna be online? I wanna read it!
but how is the cursor close to the edge of the tablet?
I've tested in on my Kamvas 13 GEN3 (GS1333). It's very good with my unit. Huion states the corner accuracy as ±2mm. With my unit, I thought it was even better than that - like ±1mm. Of course this may vary across different units of the same tablet model.
Does anybody know if gen3 (or whatever it's called in larger models) is incoming for the 22 / 24 models (pro, plus or standard)? I mean, new product launches.
3 pen buttons, 2 disks (ie: for brush size and zoom or undo/redo), and tablet buttons, those are premium details to me (non existing in Wacom 'non-pro' Cintiqs). Kudos to Huion for adding those in a "mainstream" product. These become incredibly efficient in an illustrator's daily work. It seems that the key thing to me, *line wobble* , is not an issue with this one (huge news!), so, Gen 3 looks really interesting (and/or these new pens, the tablet, whatever is the reason. Or a bit of everything). Let's hope they'll apply same tech to bigger models. BTW, Wacom One (compared in the video) has ben detected (demonstrated with proof, tests) as a product line with significantly inferior tech (pen pressure and accuracy) by certain really thorough youtube creator. It's like another planet compared IMO to, say, the basic Cintiq 16 or 22; in certain way, actually also worse than the intuos classic pen tablets. I wouldn't get the wacom one even if it got cheaper.
I have huions 16 inch 4k display tablet, and honestly I have nothing negative to say! I absolutely love it. The size feels amazing in comparison to my previous 13in. The pen feels great to use and although I haven’t studied the line quality there’s nothing noticeably wrong while I’m drawing. If you want the newest tech, the 19in would be the way to go as you get the new pen and I think a few new features
@@maxwell_design_studios Thank you! :)
If they make a 22 inch version of this I’m tossing my cintiq 22hd away
So the pen is different from the pro 19 and 27?
After I just bought a Huion Tablet, and With No screen at that 🤦🏿♂️
dude, i just want a wacom movink type portability in 15 incehs
Still waiting them to launch in India 😂
This is best cheap tablet ever
I'm surprised he still uses Photoshop. Adobe does not deserve money or exposure from anyone.
A lot of pro artists my self included are unfortunately pretty locked in on photoshop - the nearest competitors still don’t quite hit on the higher end pro level features that photoshop has by default - or importantly the plugin support. We’re still a ways off pros being able to switch. Which is why it’s so important for up and coming artists to make that switch earlier in their careers. We haven’t hit the blender moment for 2D yet :(
Yep feeling the same way. Photoshop does everything I want from one piece of software and nothing else really compares.. as a one stop shop jack of all trades...@@jkcrosby
Hi there I love watching your videos. Can you help ma I am a digital artist i want to buy a tab my budget is around 179 dollars. Right now Amazon sales are on so which tab should I buy sumsung A9+ or samsung s6 fe
Whats that brick you connected the huion tablet to?
That's a mini PC, check his previous videos for more details.
its hard for me to Chose cause i never had a Tablet to Drawn but i like the Huion Pro 22 (2019) but i guess the Newer it is the better it is and im used with A4 paper Size can someone recommend me a Tablet that has a A4+ Area to Drawn?
I think you would be fine with any 22" tablet . Bigger is better for line control, and scene composition, for me the ideal is 24". I use a classic (non display) Wacom XL, but I have total (trained) coordination hand-screen. For most people (some really good artists) it is not the case and they are better off with a _pen display_ . The issue is that the jump in price to a 24 is considerable. I would totally recommend you 24, but 22 is at a very, very nice value/capability/price ratio. It's very functional for people like you and me used to A4 or bigger canvases/paper. The XPpen brand seems to be cheaper in all their product line, BTW. But Huion Kamvas "Plus" or "Pro" products are pretty good. I have a Kamvas 22 (plain, not pro, not even plus, and the oldest) and it is very functional, but I prefer my intuos large as I get better line control and better sensitivity (don't trust the 16k levels of pressure, it's a marketing gimmick, a thing that each brand measures differently).
Note here: The Kamvas 22 Plus has a remarkably good screen (wider color range, much better quality than a plain standard one) and is cheaper than the pro. You might want to consider it. The "plain" kamvas 22's screen is just barely a sRGB compliant screen, and my colorimeter can't leave it with really professional color accuracy, but it's workable (most artists doing commissions don't need so much color accuracy, though). Go for the Plus. Or the Pro. The Plus is a QLED (NOT OLED, qled tablets have no burn-in problem!!!). So, it's a nice buy. But even in the video is mentioned that the XPpen has better initial force of activation. Meaning it is more sensitive for shading and painting. So, very tough choice to make. Recently XP had and offer for an old 22R pro for 400 bucks, quite a bargain, but I think it finished. I got my Kamvas 22 (plain) for 400 bucks on Amazon, first hand, years ago.
And if you have SAME control (like me) on a classic pen tablet than on a pen display (or pretty close), just go for a current Intuos Pro Wacom L. Best pen and tablet tech on the planet, and proven record of being incredibly durable, but ONLY if you really have such achieved skill (took me many years). If not, get yourself a recent, modern (ideally the newest!!) 22" or bigger pen display from XPpen or Huion, you should be completely fine.
@@3polygons Thank you for telling me about 16k pressure and yes im on 400+ +/- bucks as well
@@LOGICALMAGNET Regular Huion Kamvas 22 is now at 449 USD (in the brand's US store). The one I very heavily recommend to you is the Kamvas *Plus* at 549 $. The difference in screen quality is HUGE. Full lamination, so, less or no distance between the tip and the cursor in any case, quite better contrast ratio,which typically means better subtlety in darks and light tones, plus better gradients (and due to QLED, people say also better intensity and saturation), and _quite_ wider color range... Really makes for those 100 bucks of difference, it is a much better purchase. I believe the pen is the exact same than the one my older kamvas 22 has (BTW, several years and hasn't break yet, but I use it very occasionally, and don't carry it around: I'm super careful), so, I maintain that a Wacom L pen tablet (indeed, even an arcane XL) has more precision with lines and in general, but useless argument if you don't have _a lot_ of control and experience with pen tablets. Also, "same pen" does not tell the whole story, the grid is surely better in the Plus model, and full lamination adds a lot of control. The experience, feel, accuracy doing lines and detailed work depends on many factors.
XPpen Artist 22 Plus seems like another good purchase, closer to your budget. 422 $. 130% sRGB (91% Adobe RGB, it says at the bottom, on specs, quite good for a product like this and at this price), so, should be completely fine. It says the "offer" ends in 14 hours, but dunno if this is a permanent trick for impulse buyers and this price is set down often. (dunno as I typically purchase on Amazon, not at these 2 brands' main site. For faster shipping, refunds, etc). It's quite good for a product like this; I'm surprised. Anyway, "regular" price is 469$, so, kind of also close to your budget, if you miss the offer. This model is pretty new, says in the shop listing. And I recommend going for relatively recent models, as these brands evolve a lot each year.
Both are 1080p screens (1920x1080, I believe). I never *_EVER_* was disturbed with the "pixel", and I am a professional artist (and painted plenty on the Kamvas 22). But some people get really picky about this. If that's your case, it seems Huion is going to release soon a new model line (if I understood it cortectly), for example, the Kamvas RDS-220. Those are 2.5k QHD resolution (1440P height if I am not wrong). Which brings finer point than 1080p. But I have always thought it's an exaggeration, the resolution issue of "seeing the pixel" (you really have to focus on that...). I guess as a new product (can't purchase yet), it will be definitely more expensive. Or you can also go to the 24 series (my personal preference), and get the "Artist 24". The 24 Pro seems older (surely the first one, says 90% Adobe RGB while Artist 24 is 94%!). It's 2.5k but at a bigger 24" size (which is great), but still very fine point. But then is like 900 bucks or so but right now are at around 600 both (I guess these offers happen often)... ;). The 24 "Pro" is now old. With a few "issues", too. I remember the first iterations of both Huion and XP had problems of accuracy when the pen reached the edges of the screen (important for reaching menus! Are accessible but the displacement is larger there). To my knowledge, it's due to not full lamination. Dunno if the Artist 24 being more modern than the pro is full laminated. It doesn't say.... Instead, the 22 "Plus" versions of both brands don't have this issue due to being full laminated, but I could be wrong. I believe is due to thicker screen, so, all the full laminated models (Kamvas 22 Plus, Artist 22 Plus should be fine), as there's no displacement between cursor-pen tip.
I find the XP Artist 24 (non pro) dangerously tempting for myself :D
There you go. With your budget or a bit more, to draw on something somewhat similar (in perception, even if not exact in size, as what counts is the "feel", in my opinion, also need to count on the space eaten by menus and panels, so why I recommend 22 and up; ideal 24) to an A4, I'd get one of those 3 (in no particular order!) : Huion "Kamvas 22 Plus", XPpen's "Artist 22 Plus" or a pen tablet: the Wacom Intuos Pro L. Beware, the names have to be exactly those, as these brands have tons of products, some names are way too similar but are very different products (often, quite worse).
Lastly, in case you'd prefer a classic tablet, the Wacom L is right now, at US shop, for 499 USD, first hand (new).
Disclaimer: I have never used a XPpen tablet. Watched a gazillion reviews of many of their products but I have only (deeply) tested Huion's and Wacom products. But I am 99% sure both brands are very good, although inferior yet to Wacom in quality, accuracy and durability (still, the above are very good purchases, IMO).
Is there a 16' version?
Not yet but I'm sure there will be.
I'm just getting started with digital art and am looking for a fairly affordable way to try it out. Is the Huion hs611 still good? Is there anything else in that price range anyone recommends? Thanks.
The hs611 works ok, although I would recommend the Inspiroy 2 over that model. The inspiroy 2 has a newer/better pen, feels nicer in terms of overall build quality, and the scroll wheel works way better than the hs611's touch strip. The medium is the perfect size if you are using a laptop, I would go for the large if you work on a larger desktop screen.
@@velvi8359 Ok Thanks! I'll check it out!
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