Gasit LPG LED Gauge Repair - CampervanChanges - Ep5
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2019
- Our Autotrail T670 came with this 25 ltr underslung refillable LPG tank for heating, hot water, fridge and cooking but the LED tank gauge in the cab has always read full from day 1. The dealer said it wasn't something he can do, Autotrail said they fitted the tanks and systems but it wasn't their responsibility and so I contacted GASIT.
I have to say the staff at GasIT were fantastic, very helpful and even offered to take a look if I drove to their workshop in mid Wales. As it turned out the instructions they sent over for fault-finding was all we needed to fix the problem.
What we didn't expect whilst doing this was to find a gas leak, it seems autotrail had sent our brand new van out with a loose gas hose connected to the tank, as well as a non-functional LED fill gauge.
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So when the gauge shows RED we then filled up the tank, which is a 25 ltr tank, we put in almost 17 ltrs, so there's 8 ltrs left in the tank when the gauge shows red.
So at least GasIT put a little reserve space in there 👍🏻
Just going to ask this very question about the 17ltrs to fill the tank. So the problem was the rubbish wiring or did I miss something?
Don’t forget that these only fill 80% also. 👍
Erm I think you only had 3L left as 80% of 25 is 20..✌ I'm surprised you missed that!
Just to say thanks, also had a problem with my gauge constantly reading full! Watched your vlog and carried out the same test and repair -sorted!!! 👍
The reverse of this has just happened to us. Filled it up today but its showing empty with the red light. Thanks for the video. 👍
Great vid and so helpful ( we have n autotrail PVC so feel like i'm looking into the future watching this ) so cheers for this.
Informative video. Thanks guys!!
Excellent vlog not only as I have a leak and Spinneys couldn't find it but as well the gauge issue crops up so many times on the v line Facebook and how to use fill up, thank you
Thanks John very helpful! similar problem on mine (although i fitted it myself). i think it's might be easy to fit it - uncalabrated.... because i didn't know how much was in my tank when i fitted it so didn't spot the problem until my propex stopped working. Now i have to wait until after lock down ends to fill up and check i fixed it!
Ur Hand man john love ur videos 👍👍👍
I like your video . Thank you
Good fix.. many autotrailers having errors like this on the gas led. Mine reads full forever before coming down will check as per your video. My point about warranty made a few videos ago was a question not a criticism sure u understand. I have had issues with warranties in the past and had to fight my corner with manufacturers. Thanks
I understand Paul, I had around 30 comments on here/email etc. about the warranty and I was daft throwing it away. If the fridge packs up then I can get it replaced, same with the cooker, but otherwise nothing else would be covered and I'm fine with that. FIAT will warranty the van body, engine, gearbox etc. and that's something I won't be messing with.
I would and do the simple things like sealant dropping off and minor stuff. The community on FB and RUclips has helped so much. Not long now till the sun shines. Tnx
Some of the changes we are making are going to make this van a very capable all-year-round camper, so we can go find the fun and maybe not always just the sun 👍🏻
Hi John so liked your video, thank you. I will add i totally agree with you on the warranty and doing the work yourself, we bought new and the bad quality and problems nearly killed us, as it was our first Bus we were so worried about our warranty, and we used it quite a few times. We had problems with the people doing the work as they damaged trim broke blinds while fixing something else. We have now come through all that and as it is now out of warranty. I am so like you that i can do all the work myself, so much better than what we have had to put up with, the feeling it is now in our control is wonderful. I wont mention who carried out the work as there name has been mentioned somewhere in the other posts (cough cough) The thought that you spend a lot on money and you get good service is an utter sham, it isn't like that at all, i conciser myself now so much wiser to that.....what brought me here well i'm after info on fitting an under-slung tank to a Peugeot Boxer and all i'm doing is getting so heads up, and after watching your video i liked your comments and thought i post. I'll finish with a Keep up the good work .....regards C.
Thanks for your comments. Getting work done by people who care is always going to be a struggle as the bigger companies charge you a lot and pay their staff pennies. The best way is to use a small company, preferable a person who gave up working for someone else and started their own business going around doing the work. Then they will likely do a better job as their next customer comes from your recommendation.
As for fitting the LPG, I can honestly say GasIT have been great with me fixing this problem, they do self install kits and from the work I did fixing my own system I can see the installation is quite easy.
Brilliant. Thank you soo much for posting this video. I have the same issue on my autosleeper symbol plus. I've had it 6 months and am about to get underneath and sort it out. Like you say the finish of the vans leaves a bit to be desired. I am also certain that I can do a far better job than the 'craftsmen' at Autosleeper.
Dynamic Duo strike again! Taking the van back would have to be on multiple occassions and it would drive anybody mad with frustration plus the eventual fob off tactics, so you done right and good plus the video is extremely useful!
Thanks John, thankfully GasIT were really helpful and made everything really easy to fault find and fix. 🚐👍🏻
B-roll Mandy taking on new tasks and GasIT John getting stuck!!! 🤓🙃🤣
Would I be right in thinking if you'd have bought a German or French Boxcar you would have ended up with what your now achieving, proper rear bed with underneath storage?
Maybe, we went to the show last week to see how other manufacturers were doing things and didn't see anything currently made that would be close to what we will end up with once we complete our changes. The germans are building for outdoor living, not always great for UK camping, the bigger vans are great but won't fit on our driveway and even if we sold this and bought an empty van I think we'd still end up with something close to what we are going to have soon with this van. (fingers crossed)
@@johnrocker2986 Hi John, I guess he would have yes but he would have probably had to deal with a suicide door as well. I do know that you can order Adria's with the sliding door on the UK side now but I think the Knaus Boxcar van conversions have the sliding doors still on the continental side albeit they are right hand drive but I could be mistaken. :-)
Nearside or Offside doors its swings and roundabouts win in europe loose in UK but we are all grown ups so what ever side, I dont think matters to me but was is important is we buy vans from dealers without the greif, John is getting?
Thanks John and Mandy that was very informative. The gauges are pretty useless aren’t they!! ...but to be on the safe side we always carry a camping stove and spare canisters, in fact use that more than our own onboard gas. 🍻Cheers and great video too🍻👍
Thanks, this was helpful. Now I just have to check the sender on mine ...
Nice !!!!!
As a trained GasIT installer I would suggest that I’ve seen better installs!
Good fix John I agree with you I wouldn’t take it back to them either their bloody useless that shouldn’t have happened regards John
Hi John and Mandy, another really informative and great video thanks. I just can't believe the problems you are having with your van, basically all down to Auto-Trail. Shame on them, I hope their MD looks at these videos and cringes, but I think unlikely. They are now part of the Trigano group. The sad fact is I really liked V-Line I hired, indeed a V-Line was one of my short list of three Vans before I bought the Vantage Sol. Gas safety should not be skimped on and if Auto-Trail pay lip service to it then it is clear that shoddy workmanship and lack of quality control is systemic in the company. On an up note however I have just had a warranty claim from Fait involving fixing the outside ambient air temperature sensor and they couldn't have been more helpful and made it very stress free, giving me confidence for the future for that side of the Van. Best Wishes
Great vid guys thanks for posting. We have a fuel gauge with the same problem lol hoping it's just gunked up dropping tank to clean it out on fri especially as some numpty dropped the rubber hose from a jerry can down the pipe
I saw that in your video, I always thought there was a gauze in the filler neck to stop “accidents” like that 🤣
job well done, seems you have had a few problems with the build quality of your van but you seem to be getting on top of them now ?
all the best
Great Job you two 👍 well done 😀
By post: To the CEO Auto-Trail VR Ltd
Trigano House, Genesis Way, Europarc,
Grimsby,
North East Lincolnshire,
DN37 9TU
Show them how poor their workmanship “Buy an auto Trail and rebuild it yourself 👎” Best regards us 3 👍😀🐾🍺🍟
Thanks mate. I know you like naming and shaming, and in principal I do too, however, I've always then got caught up in the anger and frustration that comes along with dealing with people who clearly didn't care to do it right in the first place and end up arguing with you afterwards.
In my view, Life is too short to get caught up wasting your time with matters that can't really change anything anyway. At best AutoTrail might apologise, say I should have taken it to their dealers to get a free repair or so on, at worst they'll do as they've done since last May and act like unless something is broken then it's fine.
I am happy fixing things, showing others how to fix them and, at the same time, letting people see for themselves what type of product this manufacturer sends out of its doors.
Gadget John on tour 👍
What was the point in them putting heat shrink butt connectors on and then not shrinking them 🤔 especially in a area like that. Handy video mate 😉👍👍👍
They were crimped connectors, and not very well crimped. The gas pipe was just finger tight, like they forgot that fixing on their final fit checks, it might have passed a very quick gas test even.
@@johnmandy it was probably built on a Friday afternoon your van bud 😉😁
I hope you're taking this stuff back to the supplier!!! Bloodly lackys!!!
I covered that bit in the video 👍🏻
good video, I watched one by Dan Trudgian some time ago about using the voltmeter to test fuses, lamps and batteries. Perhaps you could do a video on testing camper van related equipment and explain this ohms / gauge test again ? Michael
Thanks, I’ve got nearly 50 videos and a few cover electrics, fault finding and so on. If you go to my channel and select the videos tab you can see all the videos and find ones that will help you 👍🏼
I have got the same problem led’s all lit but tank is only half full connections all good, when you disconnect wire plug from tank still all led’s are lit
Just about to fit a gauge on my 1991 hymer
Impressed with your mechanical knowledge and skills John and the videos are very informative.
We are looking at buying a van BUT having watched some of your videos and having borrowed my brothers van (Globecar) the build quality on campervans seems ridiculously poor. I know the Globecar has had problems with water pump x2, cupboard doors falling off, a window falling out, a vent not closing properly, a coolant leak and several more.
Yes, I know a lot of the work you have done is to improve your van but still..........
We would like to buy a van to use not to have sitting in the garage being repaired.
Any advice????
Frank
My advice is fix it yourself or find someone you trust to fix it, OR maybe sell it and convert a van yourself?
I can well understand your attitude towards taking the vehicle back. Also as a tip you may already know but a solution of 50 50 washing up liquid and water brushed on to gas joints will show any leaks by the gas blowing bubbles. That said I would always advise a gas system pressure test just to be safe.
I've booked it in for a full safety check, Gas and electrics, once I've completed the changes. Need to make 100% sure this van is safe. 👍🏻
I tried the solution and as room is tight underneath it's hard to see the bubbles especially as it drips off, I then tried imperial leather foam burst it's great as it stays as a stiff foam even upside down, still can't find my leak though 😩
Can you smell gas anywhere? Either around the fridge, cooker, heater or under the van? Is it the gauge that's going down? Just trying to work out how you know you've got a leak?
I could smell gas when I bent down to sort the stupid fresh water tank pipe coming off, I have a big nose and narrowed the smell down to around the regulator, I took it to Spinneys and they pressure tested it and said it was not leaking and the smell was just the " gas residue" on the regulator. I went to put the heating on today and no gas then realised the Gassit was switched off so when I went under there was no smell and when I switched it on the faint smell came back, it was pure fluke that your vlog came on whilst I was having a brew to calm down! I then hoped it was a leak on the same point as yours but alas no leak there? I've checked all cupboards and valves internally and nothing, so I've just ordered a £20 gas sniffer from Amazon as I'm not imagining it and know sumats leaking somewhere.
Steve Dandy if you’re unsure mate I’d be tempted to find another company to pressure test for you. Still worth a try with the sniffer though I’m sure.
It was all looking good till I seen you in Lycra john 👍
Sorry 🤣
Helpful video John and B Roll Mandy! I have just fit the GAS-IT 15l EasyFit tank myself, which looks exactly the same as yours with that heavy door cover. My tank is red, but bed lingered the one side to protect from stone chips. Where is your regulator fitted?
Thanks. The regular is inside the van with the individual shut off valves.
@@johnmandy Thanks John, I will mount mine inside too, I believe I will need to seal it in a case with a drop out vent?
Hi John
Been going through your videos to find out if installed your gas it system yourself or it was done by someone else or it came as an option from AutoTrail. Found this one that talks about the gauge repair but cant find anything to newer my question??? Many thanks Steve
Hi Steve, the system was fitted as standard with the van. In the van review video it goes over what the van spec is 👍🏼🚐
Hi John, I still haven't gone anywhere in my T669 and it's only done 460 miles so the full tank of LPG filled by the dealer before we picked it up has never been used so I'll be interested to see if this has the same issue. How do they pass the gas safety certificate with this though?
You could argue 6k mile has vibrated the hose loose and it passed the factory gas checks ok, or the dealer somehow caused it, who knows if it even had a gas check? It's worth checking, a sniff around the tank would do for starters, we didn't smell gas inside the van, nor walking past it, but under the van around the tank you could smell gas. Not now though 👍🏻and someone pointed out a quick check is to spray soapy water on the connections and look out for bubbles, great tip I use for checking tyres for leaks too.
We had tank gas on our old house for hot water and gas fire (no mains here) and the delivery guys do the soapy water test after they connect everything up. When I first has it installed I could hear this hissing, investigated and the numpties who did the install had not connected the pipes up even finger tight...it really annoys me that these people call themselves professional yet they can't do a simple but very important thing properly.
John/Mandy hi... I have been looking to get a bulk tank fitted to my MH and having done a little research , there are a number of companies that supply and install.. I have also looked at a number of websites that supply the tank and kits for self install.. the web companies start off by quoting for the tank at £x amount and that price increases as you add the various piping and other fitments.. Can I ask roughley what the cost of fitment was for your tank..? TIA
There are a few places around for lpg tanks, I think one is called andygas
I think all tanks only fill up to 80% of size
I have just received my gas tank from the LPG shop I will be fitting it over the weekend weather permitting, John do you know how the led gauge is wired up as it only came with two short wires coming out of the gauge .
The green and black wires from the sender go to the led gauge and then you’ve got red on the led gauge that goes to the + of your electrics. Once wired up you need to do what I did in this video and calibrate the gauge.
Gadget John on tour thanks for that John , how is van life getting you both now that it’s getting cold hope your both fine and warm enough, happy travels
Thanks. We’ll have a video out next week with a big update. I forgot to say the black wire Lao needs connecting to the negative cable at the led gauge end, as well as connecting to the black sender wire.
Gadget John on tour thanks Again John it May be a little longer before I get round to fit it as the brackets the tank came with I just don’t trust , if I do wild camping. Over a roof road I just have the feeling it will move so I have ordered some steel and I’m hoping to make my own brackets and plus I might be able to fit the tank between the chassis, As it’s a big tank 90 litre and it’s diameter is 300 mm 120 mm long , once I have the tank and the water tanks fitted I can make a start on the inside which should not take me that long . So hopefully next year I can get out and about and may even meet some of you guys and girls .
A job well done John & Mandy 👍🏼😊. Which company built your van?..... l will not mention to anyone that l saw you in a Union flag leotard 😉
I think you might not have seen all our videos then, check our the the tour de france videos 👍🏻
Thanks, the crappy van conversion builder is Auto-Trail - well know for their lack of quality and care, at least that's what a lot of people now tell me having seen my videos.
@@johnmandy From what you said yes l have missed a video, will check it out. Thank you for telling me the company 😊.
well you have convinced me not to look at Autotrail with all the faults and poor fixing you found.
Great vid but did I hear Diesel ?? I thought lpg or propane Gas was supposed to work with only gasoline/petrol engines
The lpg is for the heating, hot water, fridge and for cooking 👍🏼
@@johnmandy I got an aftermarket Lovato LPG tank installed on my suzuki swift petrol
Find it ironic that you said the insurance for a van that has had a 'professional fit out' like Autotrail is cheaper than some of the smaller conversion companies (or someone like yourself or @Greg Virgoe) - who probably take pride in their work and do a much better job, and don't have a gas leak and dodgy wiring.......
People place a lot of trust in brands, so AutoFail just rely on their old brand image and will eventually just go under once everyone sees the junk they put out. Wait until you see the video on the heating, there’s another typical autofails there too 🤦🏼♂️