They're Putting Computers Underwater Now
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Instructions unclear, computer now not responding at the bottom of the pacific ocean.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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Put it in rice
I thought you need the specific ocean.
Me; when I throw my newly build pc in Bermuda triangle before watching this ☠️
How much do you think Microsoft would pay to keep Linus out out the ocean anywhere near one their servers?
A 7 dropped payments of $69.99
Their servers run Linux though... What are you on?
@@FryuniGamer Microsoft uses Linux.
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@@FryuniGamerLinus tech tips
3:20 Shark letting their intrusive thoughts win
Isn't it great how Linus' own company spares no effort in trying to roast him at every given opportunity?
Because he has less work to do and is laughing his way to the bank? ;)
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@@RetroMMA perhaps. I mean he's very aware of his problem and it helps him seem relatable and flawed and that money can't hurt.
@@SpidermanandJenydon't care. We need to keep creating hate towards Linus. #gamernexusforever
Best techquickie in awhile. Really enjoyed this one
A thing to consider is that large undersea data centers could be environmental hotspots because they would be warmer there
Yeah. I once saw in a documentary, if i remember correctly, how marine life (particularly sharks) keep on gathering in the posts of oil rigs. It's difficult to believe that these underwater data centers would have only a "minimal impact".
@@lordsiomaithere are birds and food around the oil rigs. That's why sharks hang out there
ocean is like 2/3 of the planet, I think it will be fine.
@@jondonnelly4831the ocean isn't one big equilibrium. It can be warmer in certain areas. What effect that would cause, I don't know.
As a worker at a data center, a very large one, I don't think that this would work very well. I can not begin to imagine what a single 30MW server floor shell running full time in roughly 300k sqft would do to the environment. We have already seen the devastating effects of ocean temperatures rising marginally, I don't even want to begin to imagine what damage a large number of dcs directly heating the ocean would cause.
Brings a whole new meaning to the blue screen of death when you have to send a techy down there.
The Position requires good diving ability
2020: I am uploading my files to the cloud.
2030: I am uploading my files to the ocean.
I've been throwing my car batteries in the ocean for years! Glad to see the computer industry is catching up!
i hear if you do that you get granted a wish by the battery fairy
A salt and battery fairy.
It's a safe and legal thrill!
I'm glad someone made this joke.
how else are we going to power the underwater servers? more car batteries!
I imagine if you built this with some kind of "elevator" mechanism (probably thick cables that can unwind to let the server room's buoyancy lift it up) it would also allow it to be periodically serviced much more easily, so you're not trying to sell customers access to 10 year old server technologies (or older, if you didn't go latest-and-greatest on sink day) when the new hotness is on offer from competing companies!
Access security is also a problem. One or two (linear) shaped charges attached to such a container by a diver or robot and you can most likely say goodbye to all the data stored there.
right, but getting to them is a little more difficult, these usually arent buried at 30meters or less, typical diving distance.
so you basically will need a frogman suit to get there. not impossible, but a lot of work and expense for not much gain
same for ROV's. they are expensive. and why would you use that expense for basically very little gain?
@@robertlinke2666 Well the server mentioned in this video is 117ft deep and I could dive down to it with absolute confidence. Obviously, if the server was sunk to a depth beyond recreational diving limits then it would be more secure, but you would likely have to deal with depths greater than 100m before you see satisfactory security results.
You need only drag anchor over it.
Guess you haven't heard of depth charges yet...
so much information in such a quick video. IMO one of the best videos from you guys
Imagine having your data lost cause Microsoft can't put the server in rice after a leak
I know this is a joke but rice doesn't dry electronics. That's a common misconception.
Thank you for clarifying, Vicar.
Imagine trusting Microsoft with your data
its entirely your fault for having data stored onto somebody elses server
@@Dosenwerferimagine trusting any company that gives free service.
Off shore wind
Battery storage
Underwater data center
Starlink connection
Sounds like a very profitable combination
What happens when you need to replace old server blades?
@hobog Every computer put in this type of location will be extremely redundant. There are thousands of computers that can fill in if 1 goes down. So anything that fails will just get turned off. The value of each individual computer is not enough to bother fixing.
Imagine being a sys admin needing to have scuba training for on-site troubleshooting
I never even learned how to tread water.
I had heard about this; only thing that came to my mind was condensation on the inside but then seconds later you addressed that with mentioning they vacuum sealed the container and added Nitrogen in the void.
Great overview of the concept. Thanks
Yes, let's begin a campaign of warming the oceans to match the atmosphere. Uh oh, too late, the ocean boiled away and the atmospheric pressure crushes everything.
If the thermal emissions are high enough, it could totally ruin the adjacent ecosystem. Dumping cooling water (secondary and tertiary loop) into the ocean near nuclear powerplants has killed coral reefs. Not generating so much thermal waste should be the bigger focus.
Yeah, computers in space need that r&d for thermal efficiency bc there's no air, only radiation for cooling
Not much can be done about thermal waste when we're talking about servers in data centers. The only hope we can have is that the oceans aren't treated as free real estate by tech companies. There needs to be a cut-off point to how many underwater servers are allowed, or else we'll end up boiling our oceans and generating unnatural amounts of clouds that heavily disrupt our naturally occurring weather systems.
That’s exactly what Google wants to do, and it makes perfect sense to put servers underwater!!!
Think about it. If you can have an offshore solar, wind, and wave farm, you can maximize usefulness with a server farm, algae/kelp/seaweed, fish farming, plus a server farm for hosting! On top of storing all that power in the form of hydrogen or batteries (transportable renewable energy)
That’s not even including coral farming or scuba dives/tourism!
Linus in 2025: so my boathouse gaming PC is now in the lake, it's great.
Super informational and educational. Good job.
Its funny but very efficient that LTT has footage of Linus for almost every situation needed for almost every video roll / filler / graphic representation 😅
And they called Linus crazy with his pool...
I still want to do a "geothermal" water cooling loop in my basement someday
LOL that Lockness Monster on the Lake nice touch guys.
0:55 I did not expect to see my tiny Uk hometown swimming pool on techquickie today. I learnt to swim in that pool. Can confirm, it is quite warm.
4:45 AirBnB catching strays. That was a good one 🤣
a positioning system that could stay submerged would be a big plus for sea creatures. Just having to take out the server room cylinders could also be done with a less powerful crane.
One more way to heat up the oceans instead of converting wasted heat back into usable energy? Sign me up! 😂
Riley is great for all those “rapid fire” technical information
This would be perfectly implemented in switzerland, where there are many lakes with good infrastructure around it.
Flash warnings for video are awesome, thank you.
this is how you do subtle visual humor
Humanity- Ocean temperatures are increasing.
Also Humanity- Lets use the oceans as heatsinks
this was awesome & very educational thanks team
What a coincidence, I'm currently researching this for a school project.
Is your school underwater?
@@hobogHow'd you know?
So aqua man was trying to make a phone call, picked up the wrong shell, and now his ears are pierced.
Instructions unclear, my room is full of salty water and a whale screaming to me
While a good idea on paper, I have a feeling that it would end up causing a lot of issues. A few servers wouldn't be a problem, but if history is anything to go by...less then reputable companies tend to ruin good things in the name of saving a few bucks. One obvious issue that can come about would be saturating an area with massive heat generating server farms. While I doubt it would cause any global problems, to much heat in a single area would assuredly cause a rise in temperature. Another issue would be pollution. Once they find cheaper (aka, worse materials to use) I doubt it will be worth salvaging these and removing them from the ocean once they are no longer useful. And everyone knows if it isn't worth disposing of properly it will just sit their and waste away because some companies won't bother spending the money to deal with it.
It is also not good for maintanance. Having a datacenter close to the sea, water cooled and a big radiator in the sea would be better, since access to the datacenter for humans would be practical and a radiator that sits even in water that is 30C is still fine if the radiator is big enough. And if it isnt, you jsut need a smaller auxiliary one that uses little electricity.
I was thinking that the warmer, less dense water would rise to the top, increasing ocean oxygen circulation - which is a good thing, especially as ocean oxygen circulation is actually slowing down right now.
Governments could solve that issue by requiring a cleanup tax where the company would have to pay extra for putting their servers in the ocean, but after they leave it there, the government would take care of taking them out and recycling.
Kinda like some countries deal with plastics by introducing a recycling tax on plastic packaging.
@@hubertnnn this definitely has a history of working and not becoming "the cost of business"/s
@@iwiffitthitotonacc4673sorry if i sound ignorant but how would warmer water rising increase oxygen circulation? doesnt warmer water hold less oxygen leading to reducing oxygen mixing between depths and consequently raising the oxygen consumption by organisms.
4:45 "...and AirBnBs" - accurate depiction of current state of the AirBnB experience appears on screen.
One thing about lower Temperatures: They even save on Energy on the Server. Only by 5% or so when you go from 70°C to 40°C but it is noticeable and as long as you have an endless heatdump you can increase the coolant flow to reduce the temps. Biggest Problem is that 10 years are optimistic, i would say 5 years would be the swap time. But it may even become a haven for fish: A Server underwater Farm would provide a no fishing zone with lot of warmer water for plankton etc. So lot of food. The Discruption of moving in and out a Server every 2-4 weeks won't be such a Problem. It's like the Offshore Windparks, a save haven for fish.
This has to be one of the hardest channels to keep going but content like this shows you can still pull it off. Every now and then even I know what you're talking about but at times I do not and I enjoy learning. Like an old person. I'm not old but other people might think I am. Some people are stupid.
This video should win an Oscar for editing
clips in this were hilarious, especially at half speed
I love how the thech industry was like:
The oceans are warming! Let's make it faster!
underwater server specialist: the job of the future
This is how Rapture in Bioshock started
That is very smart. But as you guys are Canadian too, suggestion. Lake Superior! Dude, THAT is cold!
The mishaps b roll is so good
Ocean LAN the sequence of a CPU created from a ton of sand, soaking up the data of man
What’s the thermal throughput of a single thread of graphene? Perhaps tying it to a rock and throwing it into the depths would be more practical than pumping cold water onshore, or researching Gungan shield technology for aquatic dev ops.
Anchors gonna do work
It was a bit disappointing that SUPREME COMMANDER didn’t have solar, wind, geothermal, and TiDAL generators like TOTAL ANNIHILATION did. As it was a pretty slick trick to build an underwater base with your commander. Especially with that underwater fusion reactor and Mass converters. I guess that’s what you get for making your game Gas Powered.
I mean this was a company that made their game single threaded (albeit with some sub threads) and 32bit (so it was mem-capped at 2 GB) when quad core processors were already a thing.
Great Riley!
"Like a golf girl with tarot cards." 😆
Well, you could have said it needs to be waterproofed first. Now I have to watch YT from my phone!
You made the same mistake I did! 😜
I saw the Loch Ness monster out of the corner of my eye and it excited/scared me a little. I think it was a nice touch!
The great lakes would be a great place for this. Fresh water is colder at shallow waters and isn't conductive. The metal shipwrecks in the the great lakes are very well preserved.
True and it would make the lake water warmer so better for tourists.
Not sure about the fish, but maybe with some control you could use this to increase biodiversity by adding tropical fish to non-tropical zones.
@@hubertnnn that sounds like how I want subnautica 3 to go
Ah yes, warm the oceans even more. Great idea
So your telling me there’s a NextDC floating around somewhere in the Great Barrier Reef
Riley looking absolutely unhinged in the thumbnail
Honestly, considering the amount of heat that is generated in data centers around the world, it seems like an absolute waste to not use this heat for example in a district heating system
District heating requires a lot of highly concentrated heat. The Data Centers do not provide that heat and the heat they provide is very disperse. We did the numbers at out engineering firm!
Actually, that's already happening in some parts of the world on a small scale - including right here in Metro Vancouver. It's a much better method than dumping heat into the ocean IMO.
I would think maybe something like keeping subway tunnels a bit warmer in the winter.
increase the temperature of already warming waters ...great idea
Another way to do it would be to build the datacenters on the coast and pump the cold water in.
Better haul for a data center than to see the titanic. Ahaahahahahahahaahahahahahaahha
Literal massive water cooling right there
Ahh yes, I am sure directly heating up the ocean with data centers couldn't possibly go wrong!
My thoughts exactly, temperature of the oceans are rising as is.
Well, instead of dumping the data center heat and the HVAC machinery heat, you would dump only the data center heat.
Or, to be more precise, you would dump less heat, because you would need less power to cool the data center.
I guess in theory, the water would boil enough to (infinitesimally) lower the sea level and produce more clouds helping to protect the planet fro global warming, but they would need to be on the surface. At that point to combat climate change would have large ships and cruises have their boilers and engines in the water...
Ah I am glad youre a professional and educating us with this well placed knowledge -_- No matter what you do there will always be that one person that cant be pleased.
Title doesn't say "Would you kindly" or "Simon says", so I don't have to do it...
Scientists be like “why are the oceans warming up”
First time I saw Practical Engineering being referenced in a video by LMG! :)
Where in this video is he shown?
1:42
I love my computer, I'm not throwing it in the ocean like a common car battery.
Agreed. Its neither safe nor legal, unlike car batteries
If Datacenter are used for heating water of cities that would be a tons of gaz and electricity not spend on this human need. It's a far more useful concept, and even more if that heated water is given free to the people (or at the same price of cold water).
Ok techquickie I will throw my computer into body of water just like I dispose of my lead acid batteries.
I like how the clip they chose for the fresh water lake has Nesse in it, haha.
This seems like one of those things were put something somewhere that we don’t know the consequences
Shrimp 🦐 Technician are needed
Besides heat dissipation there is another non-trivial advantage: free real-estate. And no rent, no 50ft concrete wall, no park spaces, no security guards, ...
Yeah new techquickie!
Inb4 this warms the ocean more and in 10 years this is a crisis of some sort
some of the companies i worked with had a 3 year renewal cycle. servers were replaced every 3 years.. i was constantly building new servers with obviously better specs and decommisioning and removing the older servers. how are they going to keep the servers for 10 years? needs change over time ....
LOL Nessie at 1:48.
Throw your computer into the river so electric eels can game
Why did the cloud server go for a swim in the ocean?
Because it heard there were great waves of data and a fantastic current connection!
That AirBnB joke was outta pocket!
water cooling go brrrrrr
Maybe Digital Ocean can finally live up to their name and put some servers in the ocean.
I'm more interested with data centers being used to provide district heating. A city in Finland gets like 40% of their heating from datacenters.
I'm sure someone will complain we are heating up the ocean. Shout out to Practical Engineering footage!!
1:49 Ol' Nessy?!
man made thermal vents
Why would I throw my PC into the ocean? Its not a car battery!
HEY! Practical Engineering! Huge fan.
Major props the the writers who made the joke at 1:07
They should do Server HotSprings next
O'my we have long way to go when we really discuss that dumping waste heat to ocean is revolutionary technology.
Human interference - cuts to Linus dropping stuff XD
Thank you for the flash warning. ♥ Appreciate that.
I love when Riley gives me a quickie
I have to wonder how many data centers we can put in the water before we begin to change that atmosphere.
That goth girl with tarot cards line was gold.