The Weirdest Disks Ever
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2023
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YES!!! Moar weird and obscure disks!! Actually MOAR WEIRD AND OBSCURE EVERYTHING!!! I love this kind of stuff!!! Weird tech is AMAZING!!! - I hope you can do a video on the OPTICAL RECORD!!! (you might know it as the video record, or video on vinyl) lol The YT channel 'Technology Connections' did a who series on it and he dove REALLY DEEP into it.. but you guys could a 5 min video on just that... an occasional deep dive into the really strange formats are, I think, a GREAT IDEA.... maybe do your first series (I think) on weird storage formats... with most of them doing the overview of a few of them, but then once in a while dedicate an entire episode to one really interesting one... like video on vinyl (I'm starting toi think that maybe it wasn't an optical format.. I forget tbh lol... and I REALLY don't want watch Technology Connections' series all over again lol)
- I think this channel has GREAT POTENTIAL that you guys just don't use all that much.... oh m,an I would LOVE to be able to give you guys my ideas for 5 minute videos :)
Hey do a vid on Microdrive cf2 cards. I know you know exactly what they are and why theyre cool.
Ofcourse we want more wierd media formats hosted by Anthony 👍🏻
yes please
We get it, you love Anthony. Stop polluting the comment section now, it feels like this has been going on for 5 years
@@laupoke it's my first time commenting something like this, so leave me alone with your complaints 🙏
@@HaroldKuilman good point, but please, do not continue it.
YES YES we need more
For those wondering, sega consoles could read CD+G because the karaoke buisness is BIG in Japan, and so it made sense for them to include the functionality in their CD based consoles.
Sega even had a Karaoke add on w/ microphone included for the Mega CD (Sega CD) in Japan only.
PC Engine CD Rom/Duo/PC FX, 3DO. FTowns Marty as well
And IIRC, that functionality was the entry point for breaking copy protection on the Dreamcast. Sega went as far as develop their own disc standard (GD-ROM) to store games, and remembered to protect the audio CD mode, but seemingly forgot about the karaoke format.
@@Vitosi4ek1 It wasn't the CD+G standard that served as the backdoor to pirated CDs, but the mil-CD standard, a new interactive audio CD proprietary format that only got a handful of releases, in Japan only. It offered more than just graphics (it could do full motion video, online capabilities, interactive menus etc.)
No really? Asians are into karaoke? No one could expect that!
Anthony is such a fantastic presenter, love it when he does content like this.
I think not enough credit is given to Linus for the way he built his company and gathered his talented staff... Some of whom have become front faces we all love to see.
We get it, you love Anthony. Stop polluting the comment section now, it feels like this has been going on for 5 years
@@laupoke how is it polluting the comments by complimenting someone that's come a long way? When Anthony first started presenting videos, you could tell it wasn't his thing. He came off as kind of awkward and unsure of himself. Look at him now, there's a level of confidence in the way he speaks and presents. That should be applauded
I wish he was on camera less. He has a face for radio.
Only his voice could be ok
Old GameCube disks are actually mini DVDs. I've still got some empty disks just to burn some GameCube games using a regular DVD writer.
yes they are, they just had their index on the outer track, and all files that require quick read, because the outer tracks spin faster. thats why you need a modchip, because a dvd writer would write that on the inner tracks
Fun fact, the 3.5" floppy was called a floppy because it was effectively a miniaturization of the old 5.25" and 8" actually floppy disks, and even the actual 3.5" disc itself was floppy inside of the external case we are all more familiar with.
We called it a stiffy.. 😂
Yeah, "it wasn't actually floppy" was wrong, the *disk* was floppy… the case wasn't.
Despite the confusion with the HDD, I always referred to them as hard disks, because I'd grown up using the actually floppy 5.25's.
no the 3.5 are called a diskette. not a floppy, and was not a miniaturisation, it's a completely different mechanism, apart from them both being magnetic disks.
Disagree, the diskette was always a diskette and never a floppy. Floppy was just a name the common folk got used to from indeed the 5,25" and 8" floppy disc era, but a definite misnomer by the ignorant and foolish non-techies.
The same thing happened with the terms hacker and cracker. A hacker is someone that hacks up hardware to utilize it very differently than intended. A cracked is someone who cracks the security of software to gain entry. Yet common folk, especially morrons on the news, tend to use the term hacker for what is supposed to be a cracker. Just like they used the term floppy for a diskette.
I think the main reason why floptical disks never really took off was because the drives were really expensive. I worked in a computer supplies shop at the time. We sold the disks, and people would ask how much it cost for a drive that would take them. When they found it it cost about £650 (equivalent to £1250 today), they lost interest in the idea.
Killed by sticker-shock: The fact that the physical appearance floptical discs was very reminiscent of dirt-cheap HD floppy discs made that price difference an almost impossible sell.
Beggars! LTO tape drives start at 5K, carefully designed not to support old tapes! 😂
Yup, this. I knew about these optical options at the time and would have loved to get one for my home PC, but the cost of the drives and the media itself were what stopped me. I ended up with a Zip drive instead.
Anthony is the best. Amazing presenter and such a clear and powerful voice
Only disappointed LS120 wasn't mentioned, which I thought was going to be the successor to floppy and bought into. Still got a few disks around and looking for a drive to see if they're still readable.
I mean superdisk was basically the same technology as floptical afaik, just higher capacity.
@@markrathgeber9858 Fair enough.
I used LS120s too! I thought that was going to be the new standard.
we still use LS120s in my office. IDE adapters galore but you can't beat em for all around backwards compatibility . they need to start making them again. they are perfect for flashing the BIOS and older applications that demand a floppy but forgot the actual size of a floppy.
@@blooddiamond5396 Wow, I had a friend with an LS-120, but I haven't seen it for a quarter of a century.
I used an Iomega Zip in college. They were fragile as well and intended for storage only. However, users frequently ran files off the zip disk directly when actively working. This led to "the click of death" and Zip became the poster child of the phrase.
I had a bunch of Jaz drives in college, basically a hard drive with removable platters. They were expensive but they were reliable, never had one go out on me.
I duno if I'm remembering wrong, but also remember the getting super hot
I didn't have any issues with my zip drives. Took them too and fro school in they were thrown around a lot.
we used superdisks in my high school CAD class, 10x more fragile than zips as they were the same form factor as normal 3.5" floppys
Zip drives never lived up to their promise because of that fragility: it's not like you *expected* your disc and/or drive to be "committing suicide" just by being used.
Yes, more weird ancient tech please!
I was there Gandalf. I was there 3,000 years ago.
Anthony is really good at this. I still remember his first time. He never disappointed, if anything.. i prefer him over everyone else now LOL.
I remember getting my first CD burner. It was $100 and very slow. But I could finally burn my own music to CD to listen on my portable CD player!
same - no buffer underrun protection either - if another program started doing heavy HDD access, drive lost the data stream and you got a coaster
I had to wait to be given a hand-me-down burner. By this point some personal CD players could read WMA files so I could get loads of albums onto one disc at 128kbps! 😂😂😂 My whole music collection was pirated off borrowed CDs ripped in Windows Media Player. So young and dumb lol.
I paid $300 for mine, I was an early adopter. The blank disks were super expensive too.
I used to record video game music on cassette tapes. When I had access to a CD burner in 1996, I was floored. I hooked the consoles to the PC and made CD-quality recordings and my own video game music audio CDs. This was when CD-Rs cost $10 each and had actual gold plating. Those CDs still work to this day.
@@mattsword41 I remember I had a junk one and one of my friends had just come back from store with a game he bought. I was going to put it in to my computer, but I snuck the CDR on top, pretended to stumble and drop the disk. I stepped on it perfectly and the metal flaked off all over the place. The look on his face was priceless.
More obscure formats please. I also want to hear about HD-DVD's failure to beat Blu-ray
That'll be a 5 second video. It lost simply because Sony included a Blu-Ray player in the PS3. The PS3 was cheaper than standalone blu ray players at the time, so it was a no brainer. Easy market share boost.
I would actually like a deep dive on that. There was so much buzz in the day regarding this, the Microsoft vs Sony battle would be a good segment.
Anthony is the friend I want but can't reach. Love to see him doing episodes!
i freaking loved my mini-disk walkman. i ran that thing 24/7, copying and mixing at night, running all day, with on-the-fly editing and moving tracks around.
Hey Anthony - perfect! Just the right length and amount of information for my interest level In this old obscure stuff.. I would be happy to watch more like this.
In South Africa we called 3 1/4 inch disks "stiffy disks". Floppy was reserved to the larger, actually floppy disks.
We always want more of this stuff Anthony!
I love these dives into the tech of the past. The laser disc mentioned made me remember the high school TV cart and record sized discs that I always had to help my teachers figure out how to operate.
Love these obscure / interesting tech videos hosted by Anthony.
Please do more of such.
Techmoan has me covered, thanks. xD
No, but seriously, always nice to see quick takes from Anthony.
Not being from a developed nation, it's always interesting to see all the throngs of media tech that we never got here from the US, but particularly the throngs of stuff that didn't transfer from Asia to the West well due to cultural differences and whatnot.
Man, the early 2000's was great, burning our own discs, sharing music with friends, buying a whole bottle of cd and cd laser cleaner, then the ipod happened lol
Definitely want more videos like this one! Love Anthony taking us on a trip down memory lane.
The mid 90s through the early 2000s was such a wild west for storage mediums. I worked in big box retail at the time and seemed like every week we were getting new drives or disks of some sort. I like the ones you covered in this video and YES, we would love more videos on weird storage formats!
Yes I'd always like more weird media of the past, especially because Anthony seems to know his stuff.
Would love to see you cover Minidisks, and all the variants of length and data that came out
The techsection I didn’t know it was missed from my life. Awesome :) thank you.
thank you guys for giving us more of Anthony! He is amazing, seems like a great human and his tech knowledge is fantastic!!! Rock on Anthony!!!
I’d love to see more vids in obscure formats. Like who remembers SuperDisk. That’s what I thought this was going to be about. That was an odd little format that did 120MB on something that looked like a floppy. But appeartly it did that at the same speed as floppy.
When I went to Uni in the late 90s all the lab PCs had SuperDisk, super handy to have that one disk that had all my course work on it
We need computer and game history videos. This one was great!
I remember coming back from school watching movies inside the bus on my way home with PSP. It was really ahead of its time, because most people had only music players
actually, 3.5" floppy disks were floppy as they were made of the same material as the 5.25" disks but only with a hard shell to protect it. I remember my friends calling them "hard disks" when they first came out. because they didn't know that hard disks referred to the hard disk drives with metal platters.
Always want to see more content with Anthony ☺️
This dude has charisma gushing out of ever pore. If he did a video about his last s**t, i'd probably watch it.
I remember having my mind blown after getting my first portable CD player that could also playback CD-R and CD-RW discs! Some of my fondest memories are from listening to music from my home made music CDs during school bus rides :-)
Also remember getting a minidisk player, though those were a little weird to use (came with a sub-par program that could automatically "recorded" music CDs to minidisks but that only worked some of the times) and the minidisks themselves were kind of expensive, so my parents only got me like 2-3 disks and that was that.
Yes yes yes, more please! Love these little bite sized videos of tech history!
Anthony, you are very knowledgeable, and so I am sure you know this, and I wish rather than perpetuating the myth you had actually explained it... 3.5" floppy discs were floppy, it is simply the cases they were in were rigid.
Over the years (mostly back when they were relevant) I destroyed so many 3.5" floppies to demonstrate why they were called floppies... fortunately no one ever asked me to destroy a hard drive to show the difference.
The fact that high density floppies said "HD" on them didn't help as many people during the 5 1/4" / 3.5" crossover period described the 3.5" floppies as hard discs didn't help... most people didn't have hard drives back then.
I once worked on a Kodak optical disc storage library in a data centre. The cartridges were weird CD in a case type things. There was also a more regular looking CD (or possibly DVD) based library next to it.
Yup, dig these old format / device vids. Fun reminders of the past!
You guys should do a video on memory latency timings and which of the 4 numbers given matter the most and how they correspond to the RAM’s performance. If you haven’t already that is.
Please tell me I wasn’t the only one that read the video title wrong 😂😂😂😂
LOL
Yeah, if you are reading dicks in titles, thats more telling about you than anything. #freudian
Same
Gross lol
lol 🤦♂️
I worked at a 3M factory that made magneto-optical disks, basically loaded/unloaded substrates into the coating machine. I think they sold them to companies as file back-ups. The factory did not last long.
Great to see you feature the floptical. I had one of those. But you missed the infamous LS120 which was designed to be a Iomega killer but never saw the market for long. More weird videos please. Cheers 😊
3:17 LMAO that email in Grammarly ad!
I never heard of the Floptical before, but I did have an LS120 drive. It was magneto-optical and held 120 MB, so it was even better than zip-drives and an LS120 drive could also read/write standard floppies too.
This was fun. A couple of those media formats I'd never heard of before. One you missed was the CD-RAM. A cross-breed of sorts of a regular disk, but on optical media.
I really like this Type of Video, informative and Fun. Maybe you could make a Followup just with Video Formats many People surly never heard of.
I was really early into the minidisc, it was soooo nice when it came out as a portable music-player. Was dreaming about minidiscs entering the PC-world, still think thats a missed opportunity.
Heck it could've probably still be viable today, the size of a minidisc competes with a USB-stick imho and with todays blueray-tech and beyond the could probably fit alot of capacity in that format of a disc
Awesome video! Anthony is my favorite by far! knowledgeable and he adds excitement to a topic others would make less interesting. He could even re do relevant videos others have presented, hosted or narrated and theyd be significantly better. im sure more veiws as well! Linus can make a video entertaining for sure but Anthony gives the life to a video where it can be watched to the end. keep up the great work!!
I actually assumed it was a floppy until about 0:45. Don't remember these at all. Great video!
When you said toward the end about a format that died really quickly but had a lot of money put into it, i immediately thought of HD-DVD that microsoft and some others backed and they even made the add-on drive for the xbox 360.
Your mentioning zip drives reminded me - have you ever done an episode on what they actually were, why they took the market by storm and why they faded out so quick?
Also, how much talking about SyQuest drives, which were at one time the biggest drive you could carry around?
yes, yes! would absolutely love more content featuring deprecated storage formats, interfaces, protocols, etc 😃
The first computer I built was an original AMD Athlon 800MHz, and I had bought a SuperDisk drive for it because I wanted my PC to be truly next-gen. I thought Super Disks would be bigger than Zip disks because they ran on the IDE bus and were way faster, and they still supported traditional floppy disks. It actually read floppy disks way faster, too.
Always a pleasure being informed by Anthony. Great stuff.
Another cool floppy disk competitor was the LS-120 drive, which used special 3.5 inch floppy disks that held 120MB. The drive was also backwards compatible with standard 1.44MB disks. It didn't take off though, as people started using USB flash drives about the same time it came to market.
I loved the LS120 drives back in the day, compatible with old floppy discs and and 120MB storage and for the time it was very fast R/W speeds
Other than ignoring the 2.88Mb floppy, and including a Mac with a 400K floppy drive in the four pictured systems behind the "1.44mb had become standard" bit, this was excellent. More please.
Weird tech stuff from bygone eras are always cool to watch.
Yes I would like to see more videos of weird media from the past
The 8 Bit Guy did a great video on "108 Rare and Bizarre Media Types" worth a look.
I totally recommended them to look into these! We had one in or silicon graphics machine in 1998.
Even though I knew of about half of these, there’s something in the way Anthony tells them that makes it so entertaining to watch. The kind of person who could read a dictionary and still have it be interesting.
Brings back memories. Especially since I found a grassroots controller and floptical drive alongside a 250mb zip drive while cleaning out my basement a few days ago.
Many music CDs had computer media content on them (Music videos and behind the scenes content) but for some reason they only work on old Macs now. Like the Barenaked Ladies - Shoebox E.P.
Anthony, please continue with this kind of content about interesting devices.
Thank you.
I have floptical disc drives in several of my SGİ Indy work stations as well as several external floptical SCSI drives for my larger SGI work stations.
I actually was passed one of those old computers with the 5¼ floppy that might still be around in the old home. Used to rock the few games that they got together, one of which is the OG Sokoban. Good times.
I like the little touch like Anthony wearing hard drive shirt while hosting for TechQuickie episode about storage devices :D
Really great video Anthony! I want more! I can remember buying a device that looked kind of like a paper hole punch that would punch a square hole into the top edge of a 720 kb 3.5 floppy to make it a 1.44 mb 3.5 floppy. Those were the days!
Love these obscure and legacy media/hardware vids, mostly because its all from when I was newly into computers.
Yes, absolutely! And, more weird tech stuff from the past in general!
Tech history with Anthony has become one of my favorite segments of this channel
I remember seeing ads for Floptical drives in various Atari ST magazines. I believe they were briefly popular with DTP companies. Just one of those technologies got eclipsed sooner than anyone thought at the time.
only realized now that the Grammarly spot had a letter to Colton in it...
LD's were soo much fun to use, chapter selection by a tethered barcode scanner that still used a battery for power...flipping the disc, and if it had issues reading the disc, flipping off the machine. Still I've seen the LD movies and love the art they have used, better than VHS/DVDs sometimes
I remember computer magazines writing articles about the Floptical.
From what I remember, most seemed more excited about that than about the ZIP drive.
Even more so after the ZIP head contagion had been confirmed.
Though, having lost a few important files because of ZIP discs, I may be biased.
Another weird optical format, that also involves SEGA is the GD-Rom. It's a proprietary disk that can hold up to 1GB of data and only got used on Dreamcast, NAOMI and TRIFORCE arcade cabinets. The Mil-CD format that's essentially GD-Rom with CD-Rom readable sectors, was actually the weakness that defeated the Dreamcast's security.
It would be a great if you did a historical video on computer storage. Anthony is clearly the best presenter on this more technical focused/documentrary focused content. To be honest i would love to see more serious/longer documentraries from you guys.
Imation Corp. created the LS-120 in 1996. it was based on the original 1.44MB floppy technology but could be formatted at 120MB. There was a big push for these back in the late 90s but short lived due to the CD-RW showing it up in almost every way. It was better at file deletion though since you had to either lose the space in a CD-RW or format it to recover the space. It seemed like a pretty big deal to me at the time but I didn’t know anyone else who had one.
Had a mini disk Walkman and car stereo, they rocked. Also I had an ls 120 for PC which I didn't really use as cdrw were a thing by that point, I did have a cdrw, but hated it though.
It's a bit sad but I remember all of them and some more... the 120MB floppies (also compatible with normal floppies, I remember some Compaq workstations had them), 2.88MB ED disks, MO disks (bigger than ZIPs) etc.
Loved the video and absolutely loved the background music. Made it that much better
Anthony's outro gestures with "like/dislike, comment video suggestion down bellow" made me see in him a Flight Attendant telling us the security procedures of the airplane before liftoff
Yes Anthony, yes I would like to see another video on here about weird discs
I remember an article years ago about a company working on a cd+rw that was made from some sort of stone. It was being developed as to not suffer from cd rot. I never heard about it again, so I don't know if it didn't work or if the company ran out of funds, or what. I always wondered though.
I’d like to see a history of the floppy disk, so many childhood memories pitching those plastic pucks in the front yard with my dad when he got a DVD-RW drive. Ah memories.
I used to have an LS-120 drive. I was surprised you didn't cover that one.
Honestly if UMD movies were half the price it would have done so much better. We already had portable DVD players with larger sharper screens for cheap at that point.
I had a Panasonic camera that used ls-120 disks 120mb on a dusk that looks like a standard floppy. I also had an LS-120 drive in my computer. Looked like a floppy drive, but was IDE connection
Always good to see these historic moments in Tech, after all 20 years from now todays new hotness will be a history lesson.
UMD movies during a deployment was AWESOME! Watching Step Brothers on PSP made the situation more bearable
3:48 Every disk ever made can be the size of a cookie, if you're hungry enough...
I used to put IDE Floptical drives in all of my PC's. I still have a partial case of new drives somewhere in storage. But by the early 2000's CD-RW's had largely obviated the need for Floptical disks.
Anthony host a few more of these here and there is great, thanks.
How have I not heard of most of these!
Around 2001 I used a floppy converter by Olympus for data. It went in a normal floppy drive and would write to a 128mb SD card. I think the original idea was to use it in the first floppy based digital cameras but I used it for data.
My gutter brain finding too many possible dirty jokes in this video
SVCD love to hear more about that format
Love Anthony presenting this kind of of media content