This form can be divided into three distinct sections. The first is designed to train the breath and energy, and is very slow. The second is designed to trained the footwork and is somewhat faster. The third is to train fighting techniques and is performed fast.
It's kind of like square Bagua--that is, it's always maneuvering to the side and back of the opponent with deceptive footwork. It also has a lot of downward pressing-type moves and hard jin, attacking the hip frequently. Those moves where he rubs over his own arm are supposed to mimic advancing on the enemy and snaking your arm up his to attack. There's also a number of joint locks and throws in there if you know where to look.
i study mi zhong lohan.. a variation of this style... this guy is amazing... Your assessment is down the right path with the left and right, joint locks, and rubs down the arm
Mizong-quan is an unusual type of Longfist. You're right that it's a totally seperate style from Taiji, my shifu just groups them together on the website because they're more "internal," I suppose. There are a couple more forms in this Mizong system, he just chose this one to make a DVD because he thought it most representative. As you can see, it starts out very slow and then gradually becomes fast.
Great stuff ! I've been wanting to see this form for ages, this is a well known but not widely practised form. I'm glad I found it. The music , the backdrop is excellent, the picture is very clear. Most of all the form is great. Thumbs up for the sifu. Well done ! Thanks for sharing this video !
I'd like to see that too! Right now I'm more focused on Praying Mantis, but maybe one day I'll be able to focus on Mizong enough to really use it in sparring as well. The best would be to find an authentic Mizong teacher who does only Mizong and focuses more on sparring, 2-person drills, bag work, etc. Though Zhou Shifu's Mizong seems excellent from what he's showed me, the sparring method he teaches is Praying Mantis-based, so probably different from what Huo used.
I can certainly see where the "Lost Track" element comes in. If you applied some of those moves they'd be quite bewildering. Very cool to see a good internal/external vid.
Like most CMA, in a real fight the stances will be much higher and only drop low for a throw or other application. I haven't studied it enough myself to use it in sparring, but I have been on the receiving end and it feels like the opponent just disappears and reappears behind you. The forward skipping footwork is also very good at advancing on the opponent when combined with those arm-wrappning maneuvers--makes it very hard to defend.
how many quans exist and is there anybody who knows each??? snake,crane,lost track,drunken boxing,dragon,tiger...but they are all a bit similar arent they??
A lot of the arm techniques are soft, so the power is not apparent--however, he is always moving from his waist. In the ones with jin-dao, the power most certainly is reaching the arms.
Also, having sound effects doesn't mean it wouldn't look good on its own. Try watching it on mute and you'll see it's still excellent. He only adds sfx because he used to work in the Hong Kong film industry and is making this for a Chinese audience. He perceived that's what they liked and were accustomed to seeing, so he added them. I realize they sound kind of cheesy to the Western ear, but try looking past the surface for a moment, please...
From what I've seen of Porf Jou's longfist, his forms generlly look unique from what others do. I don't know if he puts his own wushu spin on them or what, but he does have a way with forms (and I always prefer his version).
@ShowMeYaVids Go watch the movie Fearless by jet lee (2006) Jet lee acts as the Wushu master Huo Yuanjia in 1900s of China. Huo Yuanjia practices Mizongquan. So you get a basic idea what its like
love the video. Your Sifu is highly skilled...but In my style(eagle claw) we fight low as possible, well my Sifu does we try. Not arguing just talking tech.
@YOUNGSMASH20 Really? That's very interesting since I always find it is very dissimilar from other Mizong-quan forms I've seen. Where did you learn it?
@onyomi hey, case man...have you found any other videos that look like shifu's mizong? you're right, most look totally different than this. i, unsurprisingly, prefer this one.
not to debate, but there are people who have, despite what BJJ and Muy Thai players like to think. Real Kung fu will always be misrepresented, because it's always been a secret, if people learned the orthodox, and used the unorthodox more people would be able to fight with it.
This form can be divided into three distinct sections. The first is designed to train the breath and energy, and is very slow. The second is designed to trained the footwork and is somewhat faster. The third is to train fighting techniques and is performed fast.
It's kind of like square Bagua--that is, it's always maneuvering to the side and back of the opponent with deceptive footwork. It also has a lot of downward pressing-type moves and hard jin, attacking the hip frequently. Those moves where he rubs over his own arm are supposed to mimic advancing on the enemy and snaking your arm up his to attack. There's also a number of joint locks and throws in there if you know where to look.
i study mi zhong lohan.. a variation of this style... this guy is amazing... Your assessment is down the right path with the left and right, joint locks, and rubs down the arm
R.I.P. Siyea ( Grandmaster ) Zhou, Baofu. You left us too early, with so much to teach!
Mizong-quan is an unusual type of Longfist. You're right that it's a totally seperate style from Taiji, my shifu just groups them together on the website because they're more "internal," I suppose. There are a couple more forms in this Mizong system, he just chose this one to make a DVD because he thought it most representative. As you can see, it starts out very slow and then gradually becomes fast.
This stuff looks so cool!
Man Kung fu is awesome!
Great stuff ! I've been wanting to see this form for ages, this is a well known but not widely practised form. I'm glad I found it. The music , the backdrop is excellent, the picture is very clear. Most of all the form is great. Thumbs up for the sifu. Well done !
Thanks for sharing this video !
Legend has it this was the first video uploaded to Yau Taob.
PAI CHAN!!!!!
I'd like to see that too! Right now I'm more focused on Praying Mantis, but maybe one day I'll be able to focus on Mizong enough to really use it in sparring as well. The best would be to find an authentic Mizong teacher who does only Mizong and focuses more on sparring, 2-person drills, bag work, etc. Though Zhou Shifu's Mizong seems excellent from what he's showed me, the sparring method he teaches is Praying Mantis-based, so probably different from what Huo used.
Haha I like the sound efects, very funny, I also like the foot work and the fluid movements of the form.
I can certainly see where the "Lost Track" element comes in. If you applied some of those moves they'd be quite bewildering. Very cool to see a good internal/external vid.
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Mizong can be a form of almost anything.
It looks like it contains the principles of taijiquan, bagua quan and long fist.
the style of Hua Yuanjia!
Huo
Its lost. Maybe its never exist, and Ho style was cha guan.
Like most CMA, in a real fight the stances will be much higher and only drop low for a throw or other application. I haven't studied it enough myself to use it in sparring, but I have been on the receiving end and it feels like the opponent just disappears and reappears behind you. The forward skipping footwork is also very good at advancing on the opponent when combined with those arm-wrappning maneuvers--makes it very hard to defend.
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@TheChipendale Huo Yuanjia, you mean. And yes, it is.
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Sound effects are awesome lol they were added later just like a classic Hong Kong Cop Sockey Golden Harvest classic. Great style quan though.
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Actually, it is considered a form of Longfist. Of course, some people consider Taiji to be form of Longfist as well, so...
Wow. That is very nice Kung Fu. Very masterful.
With this style technique, the master Huo Yuan Jia defeated ten Japanese Judoka guys, including a Judo master, great Style!
Yes.
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Beautiful
Yes, it's also known as Yanqing Quan.
great video, the sifu is good, just the added sound effects were taking away from the form, so i watched it again with no sound... very nice
Wow! Amazing skill!
That was excellent.
how many quans exist and is there anybody who knows each???
snake,crane,lost track,drunken boxing,dragon,tiger...but they are all a bit similar arent they??
A lot of the arm techniques are soft, so the power is not apparent--however, he is always moving from his waist. In the ones with jin-dao, the power most certainly is reaching the arms.
Mizong Quan gotta love it
its the application that is diffrent .
Ming he Quan?
Is this similar to tai chi, but only somewhat faster? Maybe some ba gua?
beautiful form
Also, having sound effects doesn't mean it wouldn't look good on its own. Try watching it on mute and you'll see it's still excellent. He only adds sfx because he used to work in the Hong Kong film industry and is making this for a Chinese audience. He perceived that's what they liked and were accustomed to seeing, so he added them. I realize they sound kind of cheesy to the Western ear, but try looking past the surface for a moment, please...
I can see mizonquan applications you know of any video??
Cool I wanna try this someday.
Does Mizong Quan use the fist of the phoenix eye? Do you use eagle claws as well? Can someone tell me better?
From what I've seen of Porf Jou's longfist, his forms generlly look unique from what others do. I don't know if he puts his own wushu spin on them or what, but he does have a way with forms (and I always prefer his version).
Anyone noticed the force of his feet made to floor board popped up? ☺
C P either its bad carpentry or really strong foot stamp... choose what you want to believe
@brucenatelee
Actually, it is considered a form of Longfist.
I think there is no sound effect. It's just loose wood and his clothes. Thats because of the microhpone he has.
I agree that this video would have been better without the sound effects. Good form though.
@onyomi I can see mizonquan applications you know of any video??
@ShowMeYaVids
Go watch the movie Fearless by jet lee (2006)
Jet lee acts as the Wushu master Huo Yuanjia in 1900s of China. Huo Yuanjia practices Mizongquan. So you get a basic idea what its like
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Di chi è questa musica?
It's not the Wutan version from Liu Yunqiao. He actually learned it at the Hong Kong branch of Jingwu.
anyone noticed the wind??
Looks very much like Baji.
Impressive.
Is this the Wu Tan variant of Lost Track? From whom did he learn it?
the differences between north and south chinese styles are enourmous
but i have to except some acrobatic things i like the northerner styles too
love the video. Your Sifu is highly skilled...but In my style(eagle claw) we fight low as possible, well my Sifu does we try. Not arguing just talking tech.
Looks much more like Baji quan. is this a syncretic form?
thanks!!!
@YOUNGSMASH20 Really? That's very interesting since I always find it is very dissimilar from other Mizong-quan forms I've seen. Where did you learn it?
who did the music?
this is the style of huo jia yuen?
@onyomi hey, case man...have you found any other videos that look like shifu's mizong? you're right, most look totally different than this. i, unsurprisingly, prefer this one.
Using no way as way, when there's a way there's lies the limitation
Chinese dance ?
And all this time I thought Michael Jackson was the king of 'moon walking'
@onyomi yes huo yuen jia
looks like Xing Yi Quan?
Many traditional forms have explosive movements and that forward momentum. Some of the mantis forms especially.
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Nice! Is it true that mozing quan is also known as yang qing quan?
Is Porf Jou still alive? Sadly i can't find new Videos of him.
Sadly he has passed away.
@@onyomi That makes me very sad.
Thank you for your reply.
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not to debate, but there are people who have, despite what BJJ and Muy Thai players like to think. Real Kung fu will always be misrepresented, because it's always been a secret, if people learned the orthodox, and used the unorthodox more people would be able to fight with it.
Nope. It's a different style of Mizong-quan. He learned it at Hong Kong Jingwu.
Uh...Just asking...is Mizongquan practical in conflicts?
Only against little baby
But real mizong is another
Hi ! Does all Jing Wu (in China) schools teach this mizong or just Hong-Kong ? Because I'm gonna move to Tianjin and I'd like to learn this.
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Well, his Qigong is excellent, so maybe you shouldn't judge based on window-dressing, since, as you say, the surface is not most important.
@TheChipendale
Nope... Ming He Quan is "Calling Crane Boxing." This is Mizong Quan or "Lost Track Boxing."
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nice vid,but could do without the fake sound effects!
Nice and clean footwork could be better though.
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