You'd be surprised at how unbothered people can be to do a simple visor change. I have a buddy like this. He can't be bothered to learn how to change the visor on his helmets; instead, he'll just ride with the visor flipped open or make his tinted visor work at night.
@@ayowser01 I got tired of adjusting sunglasses under my helmet and I did not want to have to always carry two shields as I often leave in the day time and am returning after dark. So I simply bought a helmet that has that integral slide down shade. Need it? click click. Gets dark, or going into a tunnel? Hit the release button and it is gone. I find it a far more useful solution.
@@MrShadowpanther3 I have the same in my icon, I can slide down a sun shield...that said I still have a clear shield with one of the auto shading pinlocks to prevent fogging up and also typically works fine for when the sun hits it and will darken but at night I don't have to worry about changing anything out because it wont darken unless it hits UV radiation...kinda blows my mind its not just standard on helmets nowadays...I really only use the slide down shade when I'm driving directly into the sun and its burning my retinas lol...😁👍
They make Transitions visors. Shoei offers them, and so does Klim. As a surgeon, I have seen a lot of motorcycles accidents. As a rider for 45 years I have had my own, the first when I was 14 resulting in spinal shock and temporary paralysis. Most recently I totaled a Road King 5 years ago. A couple years ago I held a rider's hand on the road as he died. I saw him get hit. It was an 80+ year old disabled veteran that made an illegal turn and ran into him. Gut wrenching. Nothing I could do but pray and hold his hand. He had an open pelvic fracture and open skull fracture. My choice of prescription eyewear is Wiley-X. For several years I used Transitions lenses but went back to carrying two pairs, one for day and one for night.
"It was an 80+ year old disabled veteran...". Well there's two strikes against him right there. If you have a DV plate on your car, you should require an annual skill test to keep your license. If you're above a certain age, same rules apply. If you're above that age AND need a DV place, you better have some pretty compelling evidence to substantiate keeping your license.
I have one on my Shoei X14 and it was night and day difference with not only seeing better but how much fatigue I was dealing with squinting. Clear visor wasn't enough but tinted was only safe enough to run 3to4 hours out of the day.
I always wear a flip lid with a dropdown sun visor. As far as being in the ditch carry your phone in a pocket so you can call for help. If you’re using a handbar phone mount wear an Apple Watch with the sos function in case you are too injured to crawl back to your bike
Is this REALLY where we are as a society that we have to tell people not to wear sunglasses at night while driving? We actually have to tell people not to drive faster than they can see (outrunning your headlights)? People actually needed to watch a video (no slight on you Sir) to pass on this wisdom. If you watched this and thought "WOW, good points" then dear God, stop driving and sell your bike.
@@gtb5216 No. let's be clear. As much as he was unlucky and crashed his bike onto the side of the road, he could have been even MORE unlucky, and crashed his bike into someone ELSE walking that road. Imagine the impact of a 300-400 pound missile, moving at 80mph on someone walking on the road at night. Would you still be saying "Oh, we should feel bad for the rider, he meant well" to people?
Biggest problem I have at night riding is on coming cars with their supposedly regular headlight blinding the view I had on the road. I don’t stare straight at the lights but when I don’t have oncoming cars with their stupidly bright head lights I can see a lot more of the road.
Try and look at the right side of the road for walking turd 😢 and the lights won’t bother you as much🚥 But don’t I know what you mean when they turn up their lights enough to light up oil rigs off the shore, one can’t help but looking at the lights 🚦
@@MarsOrBust-d9hI don’t stare at the lights, that’s what I do to avoid whatever night vision I have from being messed up too much is look to the right..
Yes when you mentioned that I found out that much of the blinding glare you get when meeting cars with the blinding blue lights is from the helmet visor or car windshield. Found this out when I was out driving at night and opened the visor and suddenly I was not blinded at all by incoming traffic .
I wear a full face helmet with a clear visor and a tinted internal visor that I can put up or down. Had a similar situation with a deer years ago and by the grace of God, never went down. I have a habit of riding at night but go much slower than I would in the daylight. I try to never outrun my brakes and line of sight. Glad to hear he is okay and on the mend. Stay safe.
I know a lot of people don’t like it, but arai uses a completely separate visor that can be flipped up on top of the standard visor to help to tint from the sun. It did take me a little bit to get used to it, but having a completely clear visor at night and the tinted in the day is really good, in my opinion, and also nothing beats the comfort of an Arai
Thanks for posting this. As someobe who started riding in the late 70's it's easy to forget that if we don't have a mentor to teach us what to do (like carry a spare visor or get a helmet with the blast shield) we have to learn the hard way. Sometimes, the hard way costs you every thing. Additionally, it's not a bad idea to have a spot tracker or other gps device that tracks your location. Under $200 plus subscription. It posts your location every minute or so to a web page. Anyone who has access to the web page knows where you are within about 50 yards. It also has an emergency button to push and summon help. Hope this helps
Glad someone found him. I live in WI and used to ride at night for fun but eventually stopped because I didn’t want to hit a deer and die in a dark ditch.
18 years ago I was on a 2-lane country road in the middle of Nowhere, TX at 7am on a Sunday and left the road at 60mph (which was the speed limit) and ended up in a ditch. I have 3 days of amnesia so have no recollection of the wreck but my guess is I swerved to miss a deer on the road and lost control. Broke 7 ribs, shoulder blade, collar bone, 2 vertebrae, punctured a lung, but the near-fatal was I ruptured my spleen so was bleeding internally. Just dumb luck that a couple of guys found me an hour later and called for help. In the ~3 hours it took to be found, help to arrive, and a helicopter ride to the hospital I'd lost 3 pints of blood (4 is typically fatal). The guy described in this video was extremely lucky.
@@KyleRS877 No. It was incredibly hard on my mom and wife not knowing if I was going to live or be brain damaged and I simply can't risk putting them through that again. They got to the hospital after a 3 hr drive and were met by the chaplain which hurt them a lot. I was in an induced coma for 3 days to reduce the swelling on my brain (I cracked my helmet - was fully covered head-to-toe in good riding gear and didn't have even a scratch on the outside of my body but my insides were torn up pretty bad). 11 days in the hospital, out of work for 4 months, but I came away with no cognitive impact, lost about 20% range of motion in my left shoulder, and likely damaged my spine that led to fusing 3 vertebrae in my neck 5 years later.
@@jimharris8707 Totally understandable man. Scary stuff. I was in an accident a few years ago and also got lucky. I’m glad you’re with us! I almost gave up riding after my crash too.
Glad the guy is OK however not carrying a clear visor and knowing you'll likely travel at night, @85MPH is selecting yourself for Darwin's Award for stupidity.
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OK? Did you NOT see the spine xray? JFC! more hardware there than ACE!
Well...he IS alive. Motorcycle accident + 12 hours with no medical care down in a ditch? That usually ends with the words "coma," "vegetative state" or "next of kin."
I just started riding motorcycles a week ago at 49 years old. At first, I was gonna buy a pair of $300.00 Flying Eyes motorcycle sunglasses for bright day riding....then I saw a mod helmet with a drop-down sun-visor in the helmet for $250.00
Bell makes a Pro tint visor for their SRT line, It is awesome. i don't usually ride at night, but when travelling I sometimes get caught a night. The visors goes from clear to dark and dark to clear in seconds. It is truly a life saver in those situations. hope that biker recovers...
In FL if you are not doing 80+ on interstate you're getting run over unless you are in heavy slow traffic, but as an ex-truck driver I agree with anything inhibiting sight is bad and multiplies at night or adverse weather. Like I was taught you can do 200MPH in the snow as long as you adjust following and turning distance and technique, so the same would apply to vision you can't go faster than you can see and react to. I think everyone should have to do driver training course before getting a license regardless of age and the course needs to do simulated adverse weather driving like on wet skid pad. Helmets is one spot you don't cut corners with and when they came out with full face clear shield with retractable tinted inner lens was an awesome upgrade eliminating the need to make sure you have glasses for every condition. I'm also tired of these jerks with their SS or stunt bikes doing crap on the road that's dangerous and illegal because they get me pulled over just because I'm riding a similar bike, I ride the Gentlemans Ninja (Ninja 1000 ABS) with factory hard saddle bags. Minus the hard bags it looks just like a ZX10 or H2 from distance or by itself but next to ZX10 or H2 anyone can see it's not in the same class with 2x ground clearance and higher seat and bars, on a trip it has factory color matched hard saddle bags, but I still get evil eye from cops until they see neck brace and grey hair
I’ve just recently learned how those yellow shaded clear glasses could actually help you see better at night. It brightens up the signs and the pain on the roads and it also lessons the cars brightness of their lights.
Yes, I've been doing this for years even before adding my tinted visor. At night, I just pop open the visor and put on the glasses. I also carry the clear visor as a spare for rainy weather and whatnot.
For the guy mentioned in the video, I feel for him and his family. Its a long painful trip to recover for any of us who have been down hard (been there myself) Don't wish that on anyone.
This is why I think voice activation in helmets is a good idea. This way you can call for help. This will also keep your hands free for phone, music and music volumes
When I was riding to work in the dark, I put the clear visor on. For the ride home, the tented visor was installed. Easy peasy. Shoei makes it simple and effective.
The new helmets with the flip down sun visor are the greatest idea since sliced bread. I even have a half helmet with the flip down visor. Now granted a lid with the flip down visor and clear shield may not look as ‘cool’ as a tinted or mirrored shield but the benefits far outweigh the’looks’.
Great video and point out on being prepared and thinking ahead when you might be riding at night. This is something all riders need to be aware of. If you're riding a bike that doesn't have adequate storage, figure out a way to have a clear shield or get a helmet like the Shoei or a Schuberth that has the integrated visor. When riding alone, it's always a good idea to share your route with someone.
Wearing a dark visor at night and he lost sight of the road while doing 85? No shit Sherlock...there's a surprise, not. Hope he's OK but realistically he has only himself to blame.
Taking motorcycle riding classes, they stated do not ride at night. My insurance provider said turn off Drivewise monitor if ride at night as will get penalized. Do not ride at night is the best thing to do as cars do not see you during the day and will not see you at night indeed.
Been 43 yrs riding with an open face & I could not care if day or night. Owned 37 bikes. If the day ever arrives that I become so precious as to not ride at night then I’ll hang my helmet up. Your a fair weather commuter my friend, you are never going to be a bike rider with that scared outlook
I took a safe rider course…nowhere in the lesson did any of the instructors make the ridiculous assertion to never ride at night. Methinks you never took a course and probably don’t even have the motorcycle endorsement on your license.
On my Simpson Mod Bandit, I changed the outside to dark (mostly day time Rider) and the inner pop down visor to clear. I also have photochromic safety glasses with me. If taking an extended trip, I have a clear exterior visor. The Mod Bandit does not require tools to change.
Gotta have that secondary set of eye pro. However, transition face shields and/or perscrip eyel glasses that auto tint is the way to go. Yes, it can be a bit pricey, but riding in low light lum or at night...it's worth it. Ride Safe, brothers and sisters!
I previously used the Bell transitions visor, goes from clear to dark in the sun. I now use the Arai system with en external tinted flip down, works great
Some countries band the forward visor being tinted. Some countries rely heavily on photo radar that is front facing and needs your face pic for the tickets to be valid. Internal drop down tinted visors have been around a long time. I personally wear yellow tint glasses for riding at night, takes all the glare off from oncoming headlights but doesn't make things darker.
Glad he survived. They do have tinted pinlock visors also. I use a Shoei N2 so like yours it has an internal smoked visor. Here in northern/ lakes region of Arkansas if you go off the road, they might not find you until the leaves fall off the trees, if even. I'm retired now but worked rotating shiftwork and the absolute first thing I did was replace the headlight on my bagger bikes.3 ultras, 2001, 2018 and 2022-Apex. Stock HD lighting sucks. I have not ridden the new 2024 bikes so hopefully they finally fixed that major issue with all the changes they made.
My helmet has the flip down dark visor so I never put a tinted visor on main one, I also carry three pairs of riding glasses, dark sunglasses, clear riding glasses and yellow riding glasses which help in to cut glare when dark are too much. I like to leave my visor up to get air in my helmet.
I carry a Garmin In Reach emergency Satellite SOS device clipped to my body for situations like this....gives me the ability to try to call for help. The InReach or similar products is commonly used by off road or back road riders. Its not very big and basic service is $15 per month.
Because of the proliferation of LED lighting, a lot of modern cars lights are too bright. I think govts in Europe at least, are starting to look at the problem.
TRANSITION LENSES ARE NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION!!! A flip down visor is still recommended! My Rx glasses are the best you can get. Not only are they Transitions, but they're variable polarized as well BUT... MANY TIMES DURING DAWN OR DUSK THERE IS NOT ENOUGH UV IN THE SUNLIGHT TO SET THEM OFF!!! This is where a flip down internal visor comes in handy.
I have a small tail trunk on my bike where I keep my other face shield and eyeglasses. Dark shield and sunglasses for day and clear shield and glasses for night. If you do not have luggage, you need to figure out how not to be surprised by nightfall.
Got myself some 'military spec' glasses with interchangeable lenses. Yellow tint lenses make night riding so much better, and it takes 10 seconds to change lenses .
I run photochromatic Oakleys with my Scorpion ST1400 specifically in case if it gets dark or I need to ride with an open visor. To be clear with the Iridium Mirror visor i can see decently well at night when I have it down when there are street lights but i realize not everyone has excellent night vision.
I have a shoei RF-1400 with the translations visor. It doesn’t have the internal sun visor hence the transitions visor. All helmets that meet DOT specs is a good helmet. Is a shoei worth the extra money not really any DOT helmet will offer the same protection.
I prefer clear visor with sunglasses during the day as I don't want to spend 200+ on a transitions visor. But if not transmissions for functionality go clear imo.
I just leave the clear visor on since I gotta wear RX sun glasses or my regular glasses Always carry both got a little spot for em.. those bags that attach to the rear drop guards are great . Spot for glssses case and a water bottle (don’t leave home without both).
Haven't used a dark visor in years but nothing has ever blinded me at night like having rain on my windshield and cars coming the other direction with bright lights. Aw hell now you got me picturing laying in a ditch and some timber rattlesnakes decide to curl up around my warm bike and body,ugh.
“i wear my sunglasses at night” you can buy a visor belt to store the clear one in so you can change them out. Also more expensive helmets come with sunglasses built in
Shame you had to make this video. Guess this happens a lot. Most problems on bikes center around a lapse of common sense, excess speed, and just getting caught up in the moment. We've all done it. Some pay the price. Big problems up north here are large animals, deer, elk, and bear. They don't use their headlights... Try not to ride at night....
I just wear sunglasses under a regular visor. Best of all worlds. 🤷🏻♂️ Take ‘em off when it gets dark. I used to ride with a tinted visor… but that was when I lived in the city with tons of street lights… so even with a touch of dark, I could see well enough. Moved to a neighborhood in Seattle with no streetlights. I switched it out the first week I lived there… couldn’t see, scared the heck outta me.
I never rolled hard at night not safe lots of animals out plus the visibility issues. I run a cardo on my helmet so if I could I can make an emergency call without needing to touch my phone
I’ve got Shark helmets with the drop-down tinted visor - real handy for riding home westerly in the late afternoons. I also wear prescription glasses and always have them covered with at least the clear visor, as getting these shattered will also ruin your day. Still looking for affordable polycarbonate prescription glasses. I quit open face helmets after a magpie hit my shoulder and glanced across my face at 130km/80mph. Also created the mother of all speed wobbles. Good video! 👍🏻
I tried using my Transitions visor (with pinlock) at night. It's not ideal as there's too much flare/glare from the light source, deflecting thru two different mediums. I guess that's why there's a disclaimer against doing so 😅
Arai not wanting to put a sun visor in their helmets just makes it dangerous. Because if your in a country that has multiple weather changes in 1 day, it makes it super awkward and dangerous if there is nowhere to pull over to change visors.
I've been riding for 40+ years, and with today's brighter headlights from oncoming traffic, compounded by lots more sources of distracted driving, I don't ride at night. Wearing a tinted shield at night is not the smartest thing to do either. I have a Bell helmet, and it's ridiculously easy to change shields, no tool needed, can be switched in under a minute. But I keep tinted shields on all my helmets, since I don't ride at night. I don't feel safe riding at night anymore, so I don't, that's what the 4Runner is for...
You said he liked to ride regularly at night so I would have thought he'd have a visor he could see out of.🎶Sunglasses after Dark, oh they're so sharp"🎶😂😂 You'll notice I also use a tinted Visor but if I get caught out late I have to open it and cruise home.
I always have a clear shield with me for my half helmet or I take my open face helmet with a main clear shield that has a drop-down tinted shield for when it's really bright, I usually wear sunglasses under my clear shield. I've been caught too many times after dark with a tinted shield and it's no fun! As far as speeding after dark, besides maybe getting a ticket is the risk involved of injury or death.
Wear sunglasses when needed, EZ PZ! You can even wear a different Lense for better night vision. Praying for his full recovery. Even in most Autos you are out running your headlights at even 70mph. Love my Shoei RF1200!
I would look into finding a transition visor as well. I have the drop down tinted internal visor but I also put a transition outer visor on my helmet. I pack my prescription sunglasses in a saddle bag and wear my regular eyeglasses.
If you think you're going to be riding at night, you MUST bring some CLEAR eye protection glasses or goggles, in addition to your sunglasses. Three of my helmets have the drop-down tinted internal shade. Tinted helmet visors look cool, but how cool will you look if you find yourself unable to see the road hazards, and land in a ditch where Weejun Water Moccasins lie waiting for you? A CLEAR helmet visor is a much smarter choice. Ride safely and live long.
my harley modular helmut has two shields a clear one on the outside and a tinted one on the inside that you can flip down if you want it a very good solution to this problem all helmuts should be built this way
I have the shoei gt air2. Other helmets fit me a little better (arai), but that integrated drop down tinted visor is so useful, I use it on almost every ride
Night riding? I disagree. Night riding is dangerous due to visibility, nocturnal creatures wondering all over the roads. The best advanced riding book I’ve read has one chapter on night riding. It’s the shortest chapter in the book, being only one page. The msgs is short and Blount. Don’t ride at night. Wanna run cross country? Travel during daylight hrs. This vlog only adds credibility to what I e learned. . Otherwise I use a LS2 helmet, I have an inner and outer shield. I can run dark on the inner and a night vision shield on the outer. Both flip easily without stopping, the night version for those rare occasions I get caught out after dark headed to park. But typically, I do not ride at night. And I’ve been riding since the mid 70’s and still do. But good luck with that night riding.
Now that we are getting close to winter I swap to the clear visor and use the internal shade. FYI did you know cardo makes an adapter for your helmet so you can mount the comm in the location shoei intended?
I have worn a dark shield at night and it was terrible. Went to a bike rally early in the morning about 2 hours away. We stayed too late and when we got to the gravel road going into our village it was dark. I had to slow down to about 5 mph. Couldn't see.
I just bought some yellow tinted glasses for night and heavy cloud days. I got caught after dark one time and could really only see my buddys tail light. On the plus side I couldn't see all the deer we were passing. Ignorance is bliss.
This is why I have my location on for my mom, she’s a worrier and checks it every so often, I’m also a trucker so if she sees me on the highway stopped for a while, she calls to check on me. And if I don’t pick up after a while, she calls the police.
I am 86 and I travel all over this country and sometimes Canada on My 2021 row glide pulling my camper. My family worried about me so they have me on there 360 account. They can see everywhere I go every road I take but the main thing is if I go off the road and I have an accident they can call the emergency people and have them come right away. And second thing is at 60 miles an hour you go on 88’per second So if your headlight doesn’t cover at least 160 to 200 feet in front of you you better change your headlight because you can’t react fast enough and Bike will stop quick enough if you can’t see far enough be safe
Been riding bikes fir decades: 1- I NEVER, ride with a full face helmet, as I found they Impair my vision (fog up, and limit sight, yes even my Shoei) and my breathing. Further, in the South, they are basically a cranial oven, which can result in heat stroke. They are OK for racing, but that is their limit. Without some type of internal air conditioning, they should be restricted from street use (my opinion). 2- if you wear glasses (and even if you dont) and you need options for riding that provide good vision. There are plenty of over the glasses, eye wear, which are great for riding. I have both a dark version and an amber version for night and low light riding. These glasses fit over my glasses and have a viewable through, enclosed temple component that protects your eyes from debris and wind. I use them with an open face helmet and a windshield. I don't ride bikes without a windshield. And yes, my sport touring bike has a windshield as does by cruiser. At night, the amber glasses vastly reduce glare from oncoming vehicles and the current deployment of very bright and high glair LED street lights. No they are not the Cool shades many desire, but most people, dont actually pay attention to your eye ware while your riding.... unless of course it looks like something Elton John would wear...
See this. Just it reminds me of how ridiculous it is that for whatever reason, like emergency crash detection 911 calling systems in helmets, warrant bikes aren't very common. I mean, almost every smartphone nowadays has one. You know, most smartwatches do, but you'd think there'd be an easy upsell for helmets.
dont wear a hemet, i own a few, i have dark glasses for day riding, and clear glasses for night riding. i dont ride much at night because of the deer population. i have shared a lane with a deer, it stood in the right track, while i rode by in the left tire track, at night.
There's no tint on my glasses, face shield or wind screen. If I get caught riding into a sunset I drop the internal tinted lens in my Schuberth helmet.
I live in central Wisconsin and I wasn't aware the posted speed limit was 70mph anywhere else outside of I39 south of Rothschild....interesting. Also story hit a week ago and there was nothing on the local news feed about it!
Even if I brought my clear face shield with me, trying to switch it out would likely end with me throwing both of them into the ditch because I can't get it to lock into place. (Shoei RF1400)
The visor is not the problem here, it is the rider that is that incredibly stupid that he rides with a dark visor at night... Drive slow with the visor up, put on another helmet with clear visor or don`t drive. Here we are lucky that in the summer we have 2 months of continuous daylight in the summer pretty much the entire very short season driving motorcycle is not freezing you to death.
Did this guy have his phone on the bike? Always your keep your phone in your jacket. I know , you might be in an area that has no service, however, If you have access to your phone, And your in a ditch,you might be able to call for help. Also I have transitions visor and I always carry my clear prescription glasses, because I wear prescription sunglasses with the Transitions visor.
Indian Touring bike when the bike goes down the turn signal lights will flash. Man what a story.... Just laying there cognitive there but can't do anything about it.
Wait wait wait... he often goes on night rides and intentionally left the house at night with his dark visor on?
That doesn't make any sense.
You'd be surprised at how unbothered people can be to do a simple visor change. I have a buddy like this. He can't be bothered to learn how to change the visor on his helmets; instead, he'll just ride with the visor flipped open or make his tinted visor work at night.
@@ayowser01 I got tired of adjusting sunglasses under my helmet and I did not want to have to always carry two shields as I often leave in the day time and am returning after dark. So I simply bought a helmet that has that integral slide down shade. Need it? click click. Gets dark, or going into a tunnel? Hit the release button and it is gone. I find it a far more useful solution.
@@MrShadowpanther3 I have the same in my icon, I can slide down a sun shield...that said I still have a clear shield with one of the auto shading pinlocks to prevent fogging up and also typically works fine for when the sun hits it and will darken but at night I don't have to worry about changing anything out because it wont darken unless it hits UV radiation...kinda blows my mind its not just standard on helmets nowadays...I really only use the slide down shade when I'm driving directly into the sun and its burning my retinas lol...😁👍
They make Transitions visors. Shoei offers them, and so does Klim. As a surgeon, I have seen a lot of motorcycles accidents. As a rider for 45 years I have had my own, the first when I was 14 resulting in spinal shock and temporary paralysis. Most recently I totaled a Road King 5 years ago. A couple years ago I held a rider's hand on the road as he died. I saw him get hit. It was an 80+ year old disabled veteran that made an illegal turn and ran into him. Gut wrenching. Nothing I could do but pray and hold his hand. He had an open pelvic fracture and open skull fracture. My choice of prescription eyewear is Wiley-X. For several years I used Transitions lenses but went back to carrying two pairs, one for day and one for night.
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Have a Transitions shield on my Shoei. Worth every penny.
"It was an 80+ year old disabled veteran...". Well there's two strikes against him right there. If you have a DV plate on your car, you should require an annual skill test to keep your license. If you're above a certain age, same rules apply. If you're above that age AND need a DV place, you better have some pretty compelling evidence to substantiate keeping your license.
they come stock on bell helmets. Don't be a brand snob, Bell DLX MIPS is a reasonable, well rated helmet with modern safety features.
I have one on my Shoei X14 and it was night and day difference with not only seeing better but how much fatigue I was dealing with squinting. Clear visor wasn't enough but tinted was only safe enough to run 3to4 hours out of the day.
100% the reason why I love my Bell Race Star. The transition visor is a game changer for safety.
Same for my Bell MX-9 MIPS with the Protint shield
@ yea the ProTint should be the standard for all helmets.
I always wear a flip lid with a dropdown sun visor. As far as being in the ditch carry your phone in a pocket so you can call for help. If you’re using a handbar phone mount wear an Apple Watch with the sos function in case you are too injured to crawl back to your bike
Is this REALLY where we are as a society that we have to tell people not to wear sunglasses at night while driving? We actually have to tell people not to drive faster than they can see (outrunning your headlights)? People actually needed to watch a video (no slight on you Sir) to pass on this wisdom. If you watched this and thought "WOW, good points" then dear God, stop driving and sell your bike.
It's called empathy...your free to move on!
@@gtb5216 What's called empathy? Lacking so much common sense that you drive at night with a tinted visor is empathy? Google it.
It's called grammer ass clown. YOU'RE free to move on.
Sorry, I just hate when people use the possessive adjective, your, incorrectly in place of the contraction you're.
@@gtb5216 No. let's be clear. As much as he was unlucky and crashed his bike onto the side of the road, he could have been even MORE unlucky, and crashed his bike into someone ELSE walking that road. Imagine the impact of a 300-400 pound missile, moving at 80mph on someone walking on the road at night. Would you still be saying "Oh, we should feel bad for the rider, he meant well" to people?
Biggest problem I have at night riding is on coming cars with their supposedly regular headlight blinding the view I had on the road. I don’t stare straight at the lights but when I don’t have oncoming cars with their stupidly bright head lights I can see a lot more of the road.
Try and look at the right side of the road for walking turd 😢 and the lights won’t bother you as much🚥 But don’t I know what you mean when they turn up their lights enough to light up oil rigs off the shore, one can’t help but looking at the lights 🚦
@@MarsOrBust-d9hI don’t stare at the lights, that’s what I do to avoid whatever night vision I have from being messed up too much is look to the right..
Get off the road at night, or stop bitchin about it. Problem solved.
Yes when you mentioned that I found out that much of the blinding glare you get when meeting cars with the blinding blue lights is from the helmet visor or car windshield. Found this out when I was out driving at night and opened the visor and suddenly I was not blinded at all by incoming traffic .
I wear a full face helmet with a clear visor and a tinted internal visor that I can put up or down. Had a similar situation with a deer years ago and by the grace of God, never went down. I have a habit of riding at night but go much slower than I would in the daylight. I try to never outrun my brakes and line of sight. Glad to hear he is okay and on the mend. Stay safe.
I know a lot of people don’t like it, but arai uses a completely separate visor that can be flipped up on top of the standard visor to help to tint from the sun. It did take me a little bit to get used to it, but having a completely clear visor at night and the tinted in the day is really good, in my opinion, and also nothing beats the comfort of an Arai
I use the same, works great. The Bell transitions was my previous favourite visor system
Thanks for posting this. As someobe who started riding in the late 70's it's easy to forget that if we don't have a mentor to teach us what to do (like carry a spare visor or get a helmet with the blast shield) we have to learn the hard way. Sometimes, the hard way costs you every thing.
Additionally, it's not a bad idea to have a spot tracker or other gps device that tracks your location. Under $200 plus subscription. It posts your location every minute or so to a web page. Anyone who has access to the web page knows where you are within about 50 yards. It also has an emergency button to push and summon help.
Hope this helps
Glad someone found him. I live in WI and used to ride at night for fun but eventually stopped because I didn’t want to hit a deer and die in a dark ditch.
That’s why I don’t ride at night anymore. I’m in WI
18 years ago I was on a 2-lane country road in the middle of Nowhere, TX at 7am on a Sunday and left the road at 60mph (which was the speed limit) and ended up in a ditch. I have 3 days of amnesia so have no recollection of the wreck but my guess is I swerved to miss a deer on the road and lost control. Broke 7 ribs, shoulder blade, collar bone, 2 vertebrae, punctured a lung, but the near-fatal was I ruptured my spleen so was bleeding internally. Just dumb luck that a couple of guys found me an hour later and called for help. In the ~3 hours it took to be found, help to arrive, and a helicopter ride to the hospital I'd lost 3 pints of blood (4 is typically fatal). The guy described in this video was extremely lucky.
@@jimharris8707 glad you’re alright man! Do you still ride?
@@KyleRS877 No. It was incredibly hard on my mom and wife not knowing if I was going to live or be brain damaged and I simply can't risk putting them through that again. They got to the hospital after a 3 hr drive and were met by the chaplain which hurt them a lot. I was in an induced coma for 3 days to reduce the swelling on my brain (I cracked my helmet - was fully covered head-to-toe in good riding gear and didn't have even a scratch on the outside of my body but my insides were torn up pretty bad). 11 days in the hospital, out of work for 4 months, but I came away with no cognitive impact, lost about 20% range of motion in my left shoulder, and likely damaged my spine that led to fusing 3 vertebrae in my neck 5 years later.
@@jimharris8707 Totally understandable man. Scary stuff. I was in an accident a few years ago and also got lucky. I’m glad you’re with us! I almost gave up riding after my crash too.
Glad the guy is OK however not carrying a clear visor and knowing you'll likely travel at night, @85MPH is selecting yourself for Darwin's Award for stupidity.
OK? Did you NOT see the spine xray?
JFC! more hardware there than ACE!
Well...he IS alive. Motorcycle accident + 12 hours with no medical care down in a ditch? That usually ends with the words "coma," "vegetative state" or "next of kin."
@Hegshot. Your correct. I have three Modular’s and all have flip down dark visors. I highly recommend. 👍🏾
Only way to ride.
Absolutely agree
I just started riding motorcycles a week ago at 49 years old. At first, I was gonna buy a pair of $300.00 Flying Eyes motorcycle sunglasses for bright day riding....then I saw a mod helmet with a drop-down sun-visor in the helmet for $250.00
Bell makes a Pro tint visor for their SRT line, It is awesome. i don't usually ride at night, but when travelling I sometimes get caught a night. The visors goes from clear to dark and dark to clear in seconds. It is truly a life saver in those situations. hope that biker recovers...
In FL if you are not doing 80+ on interstate you're getting run over unless you are in heavy slow traffic, but as an ex-truck driver I agree with anything inhibiting sight is bad and multiplies at night or adverse weather. Like I was taught you can do 200MPH in the snow as long as you adjust following and turning distance and technique, so the same would apply to vision you can't go faster than you can see and react to. I think everyone should have to do driver training course before getting a license regardless of age and the course needs to do simulated adverse weather driving like on wet skid pad. Helmets is one spot you don't cut corners with and when they came out with full face clear shield with retractable tinted inner lens was an awesome upgrade eliminating the need to make sure you have glasses for every condition. I'm also tired of these jerks with their SS or stunt bikes doing crap on the road that's dangerous and illegal because they get me pulled over just because I'm riding a similar bike, I ride the Gentlemans Ninja (Ninja 1000 ABS) with factory hard saddle bags. Minus the hard bags it looks just like a ZX10 or H2 from distance or by itself but next to ZX10 or H2 anyone can see it's not in the same class with 2x ground clearance and higher seat and bars, on a trip it has factory color matched hard saddle bags, but I still get evil eye from cops until they see neck brace and grey hair
I’ve just recently learned how those yellow shaded clear glasses could actually help you see better at night. It brightens up the signs and the pain on the roads and it also lessons the cars brightness of their lights.
Yes, I've been doing this for years even before adding my tinted visor. At night, I just pop open the visor and put on the glasses. I also carry the clear visor as a spare for rainy weather and whatnot.
I don't need any help seeing the "pain" on the roads
For the guy mentioned in the video, I feel for him and his family. Its a long painful trip to recover for any of us who have been down hard (been there myself) Don't wish that on anyone.
This video is gonna save someone a lot trouble before they get on the road. Appreciate you for that fam 🏁🏁🏁
Clear visor with sunglasses (Rx in my case). Simple and flexible. Hot weather slow roads I can open visor for great air too.
This is why I think voice activation in helmets is a good idea. This way you can call for help. This will also keep your hands free for phone, music and music volumes
When I was riding to work in the dark, I put the clear visor on. For the ride home, the tented visor was installed. Easy peasy.
Shoei makes it simple and effective.
The new helmets with the flip down sun visor are the greatest idea since sliced bread. I even have a half helmet with the flip down visor. Now granted a lid with the flip down visor and clear shield may not look as ‘cool’ as a tinted or mirrored shield but the benefits far outweigh the’looks’.
Great video and point out on being prepared and thinking ahead when you might be riding at night. This is something all riders need to be aware of. If you're riding a bike that doesn't have adequate storage, figure out a way to have a clear shield or get a helmet like the Shoei or a Schuberth that has the integrated visor.
When riding alone, it's always a good idea to share your route with someone.
Sunglasses and a drop down sun visor (on Shoei helmets) go a long way
Wearing a dark visor at night and he lost sight of the road while doing 85? No shit Sherlock...there's a surprise, not. Hope he's OK but realistically he has only himself to blame.
Taking motorcycle riding classes, they stated do not ride at night. My insurance provider said turn off Drivewise monitor if ride at night as will get penalized. Do not ride at night is the best thing to do as cars do not see you during the day and will not see you at night indeed.
What? Do you not have lights on your bike?
Been 43 yrs riding with an open face & I could not care if day or night. Owned 37 bikes. If the day ever arrives that I become so precious as to not ride at night then I’ll hang my helmet up. Your a fair weather commuter my friend, you are never going to be a bike rider with that scared outlook
I took a safe rider course…nowhere in the lesson did any of the instructors make the ridiculous assertion to never ride at night.
Methinks you never took a course and probably don’t even have the motorcycle endorsement on your license.
On my Simpson Mod Bandit, I changed the outside to dark (mostly day time Rider) and the inner pop down visor to clear. I also have photochromic safety glasses with me. If taking an extended trip, I have a clear exterior visor. The Mod Bandit does not require tools to change.
Gotta have that secondary set of eye pro. However, transition face shields and/or perscrip eyel glasses that auto tint is the way to go. Yes, it can be a bit pricey, but riding in low light lum or at night...it's worth it. Ride Safe, brothers and sisters!
When I used a tinted visor I also carried a pair of clear riding glasses and would flip visor up.
Besides the speed, it's also illegal to wear a tinted face shield or glasses unless prescribed by a Dr at night.
I previously used the Bell transitions visor, goes from clear to dark in the sun. I now use the Arai system with en external tinted flip down, works great
Some countries band the forward visor being tinted. Some countries rely heavily on photo radar that is front facing and needs your face pic for the tickets to be valid. Internal drop down tinted visors have been around a long time. I personally wear yellow tint glasses for riding at night, takes all the glare off from oncoming headlights but doesn't make things darker.
Glad he survived. They do have tinted pinlock visors also. I use a Shoei N2 so like yours it has an internal smoked visor. Here in northern/ lakes region of Arkansas if you go off the road, they might not find you until the leaves fall off the trees, if even.
I'm retired now but worked rotating shiftwork and the absolute first thing I did was replace the headlight on my bagger bikes.3 ultras, 2001, 2018 and 2022-Apex. Stock HD lighting sucks. I have not ridden the new 2024 bikes so hopefully they finally fixed that major issue with all the changes they made.
My helmet has the flip down dark visor so I never put a tinted visor on main one, I also carry three pairs of riding glasses, dark sunglasses, clear riding glasses and yellow riding glasses which help in to cut glare when dark are too much. I like to leave my visor up to get air in my helmet.
I carry a Garmin In Reach emergency Satellite SOS device clipped to my body for situations like this....gives me the ability to try to call for help. The InReach or similar products is commonly used by off road or back road riders. Its not very big and basic service is $15 per month.
I keep a pair of clear safety glasses on the bike ....for me or passenger..
Nice view from dragon love that ride
I wear yellow lens glasses at night. Brightens things up quite a bit.
I have yellow and blue but prefer blue. They seem to be even brighter for me
Does this help with the uncoming headlight issue
Because of the proliferation of LED lighting, a lot of modern cars lights are too bright. I think govts in Europe at least, are starting to look at the problem.
@@corychartier7961 I don’t have as much of an issue with the blue glasses
TRANSITION LENSES ARE NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION!!!
A flip down visor is still recommended! My Rx glasses are the best you can get. Not only are they Transitions, but they're variable polarized as well BUT...
MANY TIMES DURING DAWN OR DUSK THERE IS NOT ENOUGH UV IN THE SUNLIGHT TO SET THEM OFF!!!
This is where a flip down internal visor comes in handy.
I have a small tail trunk on my bike where I keep my other face shield and eyeglasses. Dark shield and sunglasses for day and clear shield and glasses for night. If you do not have luggage, you need to figure out how not to be surprised by nightfall.
Got myself some 'military spec' glasses with interchangeable lenses. Yellow tint lenses make night riding so much better, and it takes 10 seconds to change lenses .
I am addicted to flip down tinted visors. My last 3 helmets have had it
Riding wit a tinted visor at night makes you a candidate for a Darwin award. Why not just wear a blindfold..?
Wow. 6:49 before you finally mention the "common mod". Painful.
I run photochromatic Oakleys with my Scorpion ST1400 specifically in case if it gets dark or I need to ride with an open visor. To be clear with the Iridium Mirror visor i can see decently well at night when I have it down when there are street lights but i realize not everyone has excellent night vision.
I have helmets with the flip down tint, and I always have a set of clears just in case.
I have a shoei RF-1400 with the translations visor. It doesn’t have the internal sun visor hence the transitions visor. All helmets that meet DOT specs is a good helmet. Is a shoei worth the extra money not really any DOT helmet will offer the same protection.
I prefer clear visor with sunglasses during the day as I don't want to spend 200+ on a transitions visor. But if not transmissions for functionality go clear imo.
I just leave the clear visor on since I gotta wear RX sun glasses or my regular glasses
Always carry both got a little spot for em.. those bags that attach to the rear drop guards are great . Spot for glssses case and a water bottle (don’t leave home without both).
Haven't used a dark visor in years but nothing has ever blinded me at night like having rain on my windshield and cars coming the other direction with bright lights. Aw hell now you got me picturing laying in a ditch and some timber rattlesnakes decide to curl up around my warm bike and body,ugh.
“i wear my sunglasses at night” you can buy a visor belt to store the clear one in so you can change them out. Also more expensive helmets come with sunglasses built in
Shame you had to make this video. Guess this happens a lot. Most problems on bikes center around a lapse of common sense, excess speed, and just getting caught up in the moment. We've all done it. Some pay the price. Big problems up north here are large animals, deer, elk, and bear. They don't use their headlights... Try not to ride at night....
One of the major factors in motorcycle rider’s deaths is left turning vehicles.
@@patcady310
Agreed. Escaped that one several times. Even a sidewalk was an exit once....
I stoped using tinted visors a year ago.. same reason at night you can’t see sh17… now only clear and when is sunny shades over prescription glasses
So a Bluetooth headset that's set to voice activate is ideal. "Call 911" "Hi , I'm lying in a ditch just after Intersection 24 of I85" sorted!😂😂
I just wear sunglasses under a regular visor. Best of all worlds. 🤷🏻♂️
Take ‘em off when it gets dark.
I used to ride with a tinted visor… but that was when I lived in the city with tons of street lights… so even with a touch of dark, I could see well enough.
Moved to a neighborhood in Seattle with no streetlights. I switched it out the first week I lived there… couldn’t see, scared the heck outta me.
I never rolled hard at night not safe lots of animals out plus the visibility issues. I run a cardo on my helmet so if I could I can make an emergency call without needing to touch my phone
I’ve got Shark helmets with the drop-down tinted visor - real handy for riding home westerly in the late afternoons. I also wear prescription glasses and always have them covered with at least the clear visor, as getting these shattered will also ruin your day. Still looking for affordable polycarbonate prescription glasses.
I quit open face helmets after a magpie hit my shoulder and glanced across my face at 130km/80mph. Also created the mother of all speed wobbles.
Good video! 👍🏻
Thanks man
I tried using my Transitions visor (with pinlock) at night. It's not ideal as there's too much flare/glare from the light source, deflecting thru two different mediums. I guess that's why there's a disclaimer against doing so 😅
Arai not wanting to put a sun visor in their helmets just makes it dangerous. Because if your in a country that has multiple weather changes in 1 day, it makes it super awkward and dangerous if there is nowhere to pull over to change visors.
I've been riding for 40+ years, and with today's brighter headlights from oncoming traffic, compounded by lots more sources of distracted driving, I don't ride at night. Wearing a tinted shield at night is not the smartest thing to do either. I have a Bell helmet, and it's ridiculously easy to change shields, no tool needed, can be switched in under a minute. But I keep tinted shields on all my helmets, since I don't ride at night. I don't feel safe riding at night anymore, so I don't, that's what the 4Runner is for...
You said he liked to ride regularly at night so I would have thought he'd have a visor he could see out of.🎶Sunglasses after Dark, oh they're so sharp"🎶😂😂
You'll notice I also use a tinted Visor but if I get caught out late I have to open it and cruise home.
I always have a clear shield with me for my half helmet or I take my open face helmet with a main clear shield that has a drop-down tinted shield for when it's really bright, I usually wear sunglasses under my clear shield. I've been caught too many times after dark with a tinted shield and it's no fun! As far as speeding after dark, besides maybe getting a ticket is the risk involved of injury or death.
Dark smoke retractable sun visor with a clear shield has been perfect for the 8 yrs. I've been riding.
Wear sunglasses when needed, EZ PZ! You can even wear a different Lense for better night vision. Praying for his full recovery. Even in most Autos you are out running your headlights at even 70mph. Love my Shoei RF1200!
I would look into finding a transition visor as well.
I have the drop down tinted internal visor but I also put a transition outer visor on my helmet. I pack my prescription sunglasses in a saddle bag and wear my regular eyeglasses.
The bugs were bad Thursday. My ride to work I had to flip up my clear visor and my sunglasses/safety glasses even got pretty covered.
If you think you're going to be riding at night, you MUST bring some CLEAR eye protection glasses or goggles, in addition to your sunglasses. Three of my helmets have the drop-down tinted internal shade. Tinted helmet visors look cool, but how cool will you look if you find yourself unable to see the road hazards, and land in a ditch where Weejun Water Moccasins lie waiting for you? A CLEAR helmet visor is a much smarter choice. Ride safely and live long.
Looking at the gear you are wearing (or lack thereof) I find it interesting you are doing video about safety.
my harley modular helmut has two shields a clear one on the outside and a tinted one on the inside that you can flip down if you want it a very good solution to this problem all helmuts should be built this way
I have the shoei gt air2. Other helmets fit me a little better (arai), but that integrated drop down tinted visor is so useful, I use it on almost every ride
Night riding? I disagree. Night riding is dangerous due to visibility, nocturnal creatures wondering all over the roads. The best advanced riding book I’ve read has one chapter on night riding. It’s the shortest chapter in the book, being only one page. The msgs is short and Blount. Don’t ride at night. Wanna run cross country? Travel during daylight hrs. This vlog only adds credibility to what I e learned. . Otherwise I use a LS2 helmet, I have an inner and outer shield. I can run dark on the inner and a night vision shield on the outer. Both flip easily without stopping, the night version for those rare occasions I get caught out after dark headed to park. But typically, I do not ride at night. And I’ve been riding since the mid 70’s and still do. But good luck with that night riding.
Now that we are getting close to winter I swap to the clear visor and use the internal shade.
FYI did you know cardo makes an adapter for your helmet so you can mount the comm in the location shoei intended?
I have worn a dark shield at night and it was terrible. Went to a bike rally early in the morning about 2 hours away. We stayed too late and when we got to the gravel road going into our village it was dark. I had to slow down to about 5 mph. Couldn't see.
I just bought some yellow tinted glasses for night and heavy cloud days. I got caught after dark one time and could really only see my buddys tail light. On the plus side I couldn't see all the deer we were passing. Ignorance is bliss.
As FF-Medic we ALWAYS have to check the surrounding area for survivors and bodies be it Vehicle or Motorcycle
I wear the red chrome visor from ruroc on my atlas 4.0 all the time. Night vision is great.
This is why I have my location on for my mom, she’s a worrier and checks it every so often, I’m also a trucker so if she sees me on the highway stopped for a while, she calls to check on me. And if I don’t pick up after a while, she calls the police.
I am 86 and I travel all over this country and sometimes Canada on My 2021 row glide pulling my camper. My family worried about me so they have me on there 360 account. They can see everywhere I go every road I take but the main thing is if I go off the road and I have an accident they can call the emergency people and have them come right away. And second thing is at 60 miles an hour you go on 88’per second So if your headlight doesn’t cover at least 160 to 200 feet in front of you you better change your headlight because you can’t react fast enough and Bike will stop quick enough if you can’t see far enough be safe
Biltwell need to step it up and make transition lenses for their helmets
Been riding bikes fir decades:
1- I NEVER, ride with a full face helmet, as I found they Impair my vision (fog up, and limit sight, yes even my Shoei) and my breathing. Further, in the South, they are basically a cranial oven, which can result in heat stroke. They are OK for racing, but that is their limit. Without some type of internal air conditioning, they should be restricted from street use (my opinion).
2- if you wear glasses (and even if you dont) and you need options for riding that provide good vision. There are plenty of over the glasses, eye wear, which are great for riding. I have both a dark version and an amber version for night and low light riding. These glasses fit over my glasses and have a viewable through, enclosed temple component that protects your eyes from debris and wind. I use them with an open face helmet and a windshield. I don't ride bikes without a windshield. And yes, my sport touring bike has a windshield as does by cruiser. At night, the amber glasses vastly reduce glare from oncoming vehicles and the current deployment of very bright and high glair LED street lights. No they are not the Cool shades many desire, but most people, dont actually pay attention to your eye ware while your riding.... unless of course it looks like something Elton John would wear...
See this. Just it reminds me of how ridiculous it is that for whatever reason, like emergency crash detection 911 calling systems in helmets, warrant bikes aren't very common. I mean, almost every smartphone nowadays has one. You know, most smartwatches do, but you'd think there'd be an easy upsell for helmets.
Common sense
dont wear a hemet, i own a few, i have dark glasses for day riding, and clear glasses for night riding.
i dont ride much at night because of the deer population. i have shared a lane with a deer, it stood in the right track, while i rode by in the left tire track, at night.
There's no tint on my glasses, face shield or wind screen. If I get caught riding into a sunset I drop the internal tinted lens in my Schuberth helmet.
I live in central Wisconsin and I wasn't aware the posted speed limit was 70mph anywhere else outside of I39 south of Rothschild....interesting.
Also story hit a week ago and there was nothing on the local news feed about it!
100 in a 55 at night is great to go to heaven immediately.
It s plenty of helmets with flip down sun visors. There is no reason at all not to use one of those. Both my full helmet and my half helmet have one.
some people may even see the wreck but do not bother to care
Even if I brought my clear face shield with me, trying to switch it out would likely end with me throwing both of them into the ditch because I can't get it to lock into place. (Shoei RF1400)
I’m gonna say the reason he liked to ride at night is so he could get out there and stretch the legs on the old Suzuki on the interstate
I have 4 helmets and all them have transitions or bell has the protent. I wont buy a helmet without transitions as a option.
HJC has an internal slide down dark shield.
I won't buy a helmet without the flip down internal tinted visor.
The visor is not the problem here, it is the rider that is that incredibly stupid that he rides with a dark visor at night... Drive slow with the visor up, put on another helmet with clear visor or don`t drive.
Here we are lucky that in the summer we have 2 months of continuous daylight in the summer pretty much the entire very short season driving motorcycle is not freezing you to death.
People tint their front windshields on cars now, i always wonder how the hell do they drive at night like that!! 🤦♂️
Just common sense, if you ride or drive at night don’t use tinted, visors, glasses or windows. Amazing people need to be told that.
Did this guy have his phone on the bike? Always your keep your phone in your jacket. I know , you might be in an area that has no service, however, If you have access to your phone, And your in a ditch,you might be able to call for help. Also I have transitions visor and I always carry my clear prescription glasses, because I wear prescription sunglasses with the Transitions visor.
Yup i like going over the speed limit at night.... that's it whats more to say..... another one that doesn't belong on motorcycle
Indian Touring bike when the bike goes down the turn signal lights will flash. Man what a story.... Just laying there cognitive there but can't do anything about it.
its scary that this guy got hurt no body wants to hear or see this happen but it was a series of bad choices
Riding at night, increases the accident rate, about,46 percent. Avoid night riding if possible.
Common sense says you don't use a dark visor at night!!!