The Only Tank I've Tried To Refund
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It's not often that you find a truly useless tank in War Thunder, especially a premium one, but the German 15 cm Pz.W.42 was pretty close to that on release. It was so bad I asked Gaijin for my GE back.
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The Only Tank I've Tried To Refund
You can tell who hasn't watched the video yet because they think I'm saying the Panzerwerfer is still irredeemable :)
Day 88 of asking spookston to play the 15cm sIg
I remember you playing this before…
I love this thing
If nothing else it is an absolute menace to open tops
I was killed by this a few weeks ago. Cannot recall ever having seen an enemy use it before. Need to play my own some time.
The thing that makes this tank even more pain is the explosion happens at the back of the rocket (historical - so makes sense). So you don't have the full penetration. You need to hit roofs or light enough targets in a way that the explosion has a more concentrated effect. Pure misery!
Hi oddbawz, the scottish warthunder content creator
Eh, if you aim at the turret (I.e. The roof) of a tank it's an almost guaranteed one hit kill
rocket 😱😱😱
Wholesome to see another creator support another
He does mention that at around 3 minutes.
Spookston just raised the k/d stats on this 600%, can’t wait for the upteir
panzerwerfer is now at 5.3
@@theoneandonlyartyom no
@@theluftwaffle706Yes
The words “high-priced junk” have never been more applicable to a vehicle in war thunder
It's so OP wdym
play it before writing this crap 😮💨
@nichtthunder There are so many better premiums. This thing is far from blatantly OP. Is it good, debatable based on who you ask. Simply because Gajin makes explosives in WT with the same consistency as potholes on an American highway.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 If its inconsistent for you, you're not aiming in the right place. Unironic skill issue, as it can kill anything in it's BR reliably. You saw in the video spookston killing a B1 Ter in 2 correctly aimed hits. The werfer easily kills jumbos and panthers in one rocket, lol. You just have to know what you're doing, not blindly stumble around with no strategy.
@@gavinjenkins899 That was the 2C he killed. That thing has the equivalent of no armor for a heavy tank. The B1 Ter he killed was with artillery.
If he was shooting at something like a ter. He'd definitely be struggling a lot more considering a light slope and it doesn't detonate into the tank. Because Gajin doesn't know how explosives would basically evaporate the crew of a ww2 tank.
Video 21 of bullying Spookston to play the stock btr-80a, just do it already man I'm tired of asking.
tru
Gotta do it
Man I’m tired to I’ve been asking as well
Stock is crazy he couldn't even pen the medium tanks
Day 60 of asking for jagdpanther
You should play the T-80 (the ww2 one)
I completely ignored it while grinding the Russian TT, but it's surprisingly good. I played it yesterday for the first time and it has great armour for a light tank (35mm sloped) plus it has the 45mm gun which still slaps at 2.3
If you get downtiered there's basically nothing the enemy can do
I love how you stated all the mediocre facts and forgot to notice it’s biggest strength - the very short reload. Because for the armour and slapping gun you’ve got the T-70
Bobblehead tank.
that would just be... seal clubbing but with a somewhat mid tank
@@supershid464 exactly 🌝
Driver port is an obvious weak spot, the sides are paper thin, and the turret traverse and gun handling are a nightmare. But go off.
Yes it was 3.3, i remember because i also bought it several years ago. It also entered the game with no reload of rockets, so you only had the 10 in the launcher.
In arcade battles it was diffrent years ago you could reload when you ran out. I have a lot of kills to death ratio
For weapons that have immediate drop like this and the Sturmtiger, always preset your aiming crosshairs to at least 100 m to compensate for that drop so you don’t have to waste time cranking the barrel up.
I had mine always at 300 meters since you can quickly adjust aiming between 150m and 400m which most encounters, I really wish they change the scroll sens depend on vehicles
This and I also use a custom sight with more refined range markers. This vehicle is a dream to use. Only bad thing about is that reload is too slow on the capture point and even if you get the reload from the point you then need to do a normal reload to put those missiles into the launcher.
@@Frozander Rocket tanks like this one are hilarious in AB because you effectively have infinite ammo. That and you have range on enemy markers so you can rain terror on enemies long range with no direct line of sight.
This thing is among the first rocket vehicles Gaijin added and they were afraid people would spam them so they were given an absurd price tag and completely abandoned
* glances at the 2S38 *
Oh how the times changed...
The reason the nerblewerfer is somewhat usable now is the introduction of overpressure which I assume wasn’t present when you bought it.
There was one time where my team was ambushed by a Raketentruck, it killed like six people back there and also survived till the end of the match.
Was this recent? On advance to the Rhine?
@@ezj2820 Nope, on a wintermap, like 5 days ago.
Could have been me, I played this Vehicle recently and killed a bunch of enemies on a winter map. I think it was Poland but there are many players soooo. @@nightmaresecurity2912
A big pet peeve of mine is with the zero on these rocket tanks, if you set it to 100m on most of them, the rocket will fly straight for that whole distance so you can use it normally, gaijin literally made them artificially aimed down.
Stupid question, how do you change the zeroing?
I am confused
you have to change the controls in the settings to let you adjust the zeroing of the reticle in increments
@@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109 sorry I had comment replies off, I have range finding set tk mouse wheel, so when you zoom in, you can scroll down and it will adjust your range zero
i believe it does that cuz of acceleration cuz it's a rocket, it dips a bit before it caught to speed where it then flies straight
The struggle to defeat the epic foe known as 12" pipe was a hard fought battle, but skill overcame the challenge in the end. Well played, Spookston.
which tank do you mean by 12" pipe? There is only one tank, that comes close to 12" and thats the Sturmtiger. 15cm = 6"
@@novocainDaimonThe pipe (map scenery) in the video.
bro didnt even watch 3 minutes into the video@@novocainDaimon
@@WorkersofAmericaRise I did watch the entire video but hey, call something 12" pipe and confuse others and then rant about someone not watching the video even though (s)he just asked whats meant by that.
It was not clarified what was meant by '12" pipe" hence I asked.
@@novocainDaimon cmon bro. It literally says “pipe”. Did you actually assume spookston fought a fucking 12cm in probably 2.3?
You should play the SU-122, despite it recently being moved up to 2,7, it's still a really good vehicle with a well-armored chassis and a derpy gun.
You're a derpy gun!
Its op with HE, it oneshots most vehicles and has good armor and mobilty. I cannot deny it is very fun though
0:05 hehe, track record
Spookston when he goes to cap and he's by himself: "Where is my team?" Spookston when his team is with him: "Stop stealing my kills, bumping me, and EXISTING!!" 🤣
The problem with the Nebelwerfer is they took an artillery vehicle that is used against buildings and infantry, and tried to shoehorn it into the tank destroyer slot.
Hey Spook, you should play the Semovente 75/46 M43. It's a deeply overshadowed italian tank destroyer which can deliver an heavy punch but it's deeply ignored the potential it has. I am not gonna surrender in proposing this. I AM NOT GONNA SURRENDER, BE CLEAR!
(Day 107)
Semovente 75/46 M43 when?
The 15 cm Pz.W.42 used to be 4.3 afair. Now since it's introduction in patch 1.53 and now, there was a HE rework: HE now does damage to the crew if the explosive mass is great enough.
It's the same principle as HESH - shell shock or even spalling of the armor inside the tank that has been hit can wound or kill the crew and modules.
Usually it's enough to hit the turret front, so the blastwave can push through the drivers roof.
As a Panzerwagen 42 main player here some notes:
Reloading in realistic battles (espcially when restocking ammo at a point is wayyyyyy too long, litterally an entire minute)
It's alot more fun in Arcade battles (ammo restocking takes like 20 seconds)
Due to the rocket drop-off you must calculate an additional 30-50m when firing (example: Enemy is 300m away and you aim at 350)
Hitting the upper part of enemy tanks deal the most damage
You can take down planes with the MG42 ontop but more effective upto 1km range
It's better suited as a long-range vehicle, and utilizing covers of rocks
The turret slewing rate is pretty slow so you must rotate the car alot
when an enemy comes near you, prefire some rockets to destroy the tracks and finish him off
Don't try to engage in places where you can get attacked by multiple sides
You can kill higher BR tanks aswell (upto 8.0 BR), but need to be more careful and experienced
Majority of enemys are 300-500m away
You can attack heavy tanks but most of the time it will just destroy their tracks, so its better to let your teammates finish them off.
Due to how the rockets work, you need to use your MG to destroy any trees or obstacles in your way or you just waste rockets.
An average enemy takes 3 rockets to kil, 1 if ur lucky
The Panzerwerfer is even sad about itself as you can see by its eyes on the thumbnail
Thanks for hearting my comment spookston!
2:43 "did I just bottom attack it?" Spookston every attack you make is a bottom attack :^).
11:58 from 12 crew to 3 crew, thats "some" damage
This is probably one of the few good rocket tanks
Because at it's BR not many things have armor and there's also a decent amount of open tops too
I Did buy the calliope
I am surprised the Panzerwerfer only has 3mm extra pen
Despite having way less rockets
Not to mention the Sherman Cannon the calliope has
@@meki___6881 yeah but PzWrf42 is at 2.3 which means there is only like rare 2-3 tanks you can't overpressure, and you can kill them with well aimed shots if you are used to rocket tanks (have zeroing on 100m minimum and install a custom sight with more granular ranging)
@@meki___6881 I got the BM-8-24 and that thing is hilarious in AB. Worst premium in the game my ass.
@@meki___6881at least it isn’t the bm-8-24 which can literally only damage unarmored vehicles. It’s probably the worst vehicle I own
@@corneliusmcmuffin3256the worst Russian premium vehicle, I thought I was buying katyusha
If you want to have fun, try the Vickers Mk. 1. Yeah, I know it's British. But this one is really good, not just for a British tank, but overall. It's sitting at 8.0, it's quite mobile. It has a very good 105mm high-pen APDS with a good post pen and insane 5.0s reload (max crew) and a Two-playne stabilizer. This thing in the right goblin hands (looking at you Spookston) will decimate anything.
I just bought the Vijayanta and it is really good having challenger 2 reloads but with an actually existing ready rack. The armour is awful but it isn't necessary with the playstyle of the tank
Spookston has expanded his vocabulary from just "Get clouned on" to "Get Smoked" and "Jeez Lewes", very impressive.
Bruh, this is genuinely one of my favorite tanks and I always found it to be incredibly OP lmao
I unironically take it up in my 5.7 lineups and still get multiple kills with it. At the lower br’s literally the only things it can’t kill easy are T34’s and KV’s
He literally says almost every vehicle is bad, but then gives 20 kills with it
Me too.
@@zadekterkyblitky4509true, he always be complaining lmao
Same, literally one of my all time favorites to play and one of the few vehicles ive gotten 6-8 kills multiple times with
God it pains me how Spookston wont set the range to 200m so he wont need to elevate the scope 83,5 degrees to hit something infront of him.
(Tip for yall who play Sturmtiger btw, bind your mouse wheel to sight distance correction, and keep your sights always at 100m, unless you are shooting further away)
Literally what i do at the start of every game when i play a rocket vehicle. Just seems like the logical thing to do as it allows you to aim normally like you do with any other tank. Even been able to long range snipe with it thanks to that
This vehicle is so funny to use in Arcade, since it can fire from relative cover and hit targets that are behind cover.
Not uncommon to get an aburd amount of kills if you learn the aim relative to the arcade distances.
It has an absolutely bonkers RP & SL modifier compared to other vehicles in the tier aswell.
Your crew will powerlevel using this tank, at least in Arcade.
It is quite literally my favorite vehicle to play for fun. It's absolutely useless in realistic battles.
Panzerwerfer in Enlisted : Haha rocket goes brrrrtttt
Panzerwerfer in War Thunder : *sad trombone noise*
Try playing the RP-3. Just make sure you’re out of the BR range of all those heavy tanks like tigers and closer to the light stuff like Leos for maximum fun.
Spookston: this premium is bad.
Also spookston: kicks the enemy's ass with said bad premium.
Overpressure seems to have done wonders for this thing.
Not wonders, but better for sure. Kv1 is still invincible to it.
I love the little gremlin laugh spooky does sometimes, fits his playstyle and personality quite well.
Spookston on his way to play the silliest vehicles in the game of all time
Spookston spinning a 50/50 wheel to see if he says "get absolutely smoked" or "get absolutely clowned on"
I was in a match late last night on Frozen Pass in a Panther D and I saw one of those with half it's rockets gone and a dead M36 in front of it and out loud said "You poor, poor creature. Even open tops are a struggle for you". It was in our spawn too so it's not like he got other kills. No, 1/4th ammo on an open top
When this was introduced it had a br of 4.0. So yeah it was really bad at that time. Now at 2.3 it is quite fun.
Day 50 of asking spookston to play the IS-4M
Spookston casually collecting cas kills with every weapon systems known to mankind
Try the Conqueror. From my experience it's not so terrible considering that it's british and a heavy at 7.7
I’ve been using it for the TOG grind. Fantastic counter to the Tiger II spam going on at 6.7
If they fixed its APDS and HESH to not be unrealistically shit and gave it a more balanced reload to fit other tanks of the BR it'd be okay
@@Retrosicotte HESH seems pretty nice now compared to regular high explosive, like 155mm and 20mm aircraft belts. APDS also seems decent below 6.0 but something is up with the 120mm. The one and only reason that I don't play the conqueror much is because the shell does nothing and then I have to wait 16 seconds to fire again
@@Rorywizz Nah HESH is pathetic, it's performing far, far, FAR below what it should be doing. Gaijin basically invented an article then cited themselves to nerf it based on nothing. APDS is also massively artitifially nerfed. We've proven it many times on the forums with primary sources, but they just ignore it.
@@Retrosicotte Maybe APDS performs way worse in game than it should, but the other side of the issue is APHE performing way better than it should (shrapnel explodes into a ball rather than a cone)
Something that you might find interesting (minus the teammates and getting strafed) would be the Waffenträger
That waffle iron almost forces you to play like a goblin since it's pretty much just sheet metal all around but has a gun equal to a king tiger
Day 8 of asking Spookston to play the St. Emil with the overkill 128mm and 15 degrees of gun depression at 4.3
Spookston, playing a vehicle based on the Nebelwerfer MRLS: "Get SMOKED!"
Historical accuracy: 100
You should play jagpanzer cuz its just too good for 4.3
It has good cannon and armor that cant be penned by most tanks in 4.3
Or play the m109:s
1. It's stupidly bad
2. It's a permanent 5.3 uptier so you'll get abused regardless + enemies with more than room temp IQ can just easily barrel or track you and you QUICKLY become useless to your team
@@ultimatechad8738 Oh no it can have it gun and tracks shot out just like every vehicle in the entire game, guess it's useless then.
@@commandoepsilon4664 with the slight exception that you can peak around corners or angles with normal vehicles, with SPG's and tank destroyers that face forward all the time you literally get ass fucked by everyone
@ultimatechad8738 As a guy who mains casemates, sounds like you have a serious case of chronic skill issue
@@connivingkhajiit or teammates one death leaving the game 2 mins of the match and I get jumped from all directions not able to do shit
It seems to me that there was a buff to some of the HE mechanics recently. I had my Maus hull facing 90° away from my turret so that I could hit a shot while protecting my hull, and an M109A1 received a full penetration on my turret cheek. Nothing that it could have splashed into other than the dirt but killed every single one of my crewmembers. I sent up a bug report because unless I'm mistaken even a 155mm shell isn't going through 250mm of steel.
That my friend is called overpressure. That's my go to way of killing Maus spams when my AMX-10P (7.3 ATGM mon dieu) rr AML-90 (fast and HEAT-FS) isn't available. (Still trying with low tier chopper). Though the AuF1 is a pretty big target (turret) and it only really protects you against coaxial mgs and solid shots that doesn't hit those 20+ shells in the back.
You should try the Alecto basically a British asu57 but with heat instead of aphe
You have been chosen
The halo CE sound edits are prob my fav part of ur editing. Feels good to hear my childhood
M2a2 possibly?
I've gotten back into Sudden Strike 4 recently and had a couple of these, those were a pair of ammo vacuums.
I'd love to see a video on the new M109 artilery at 6.0
which variant, M109, M109G, or M109A1?
israel gets the base M109 if thats what your referring to
Yep, it was 3.3, but its rockets had 44mm pen at the same time. Still, at that time HE projectiles did not have an overpressure feature. Then, Gaijin made the penetration "historically accurate" at 27mm but forgot to move it lower in BR. So its suffering was actually even worse.
Day 15 of asking spookston to play the Wiesel 1a4, its pretty ratty
I like to camp objectives with this thing. Also, I got a kill at 1400m. Ranged with the binos after I spotted a light tank and I just yeeted like 6 rockets and 1 actually landed. It's really good at flanking if you can get those side shots too. Play a few games in it and you can easily predict the rocket path and drop.
day 38 of asking spookston to play the m4a3 105
Ey, super happy to see my vehicle nomination getting featured.
But also sad to hear that the vehicle is apparently this bad to play. Because...genuinely i had a blast with it and still hold it as one of my most favorite vehicles to play. And i do have a pretty solid K/D in it as well id say. With i think about 30-40 kills with only 10-20 deaths or so in 20-30 spawns. Idk the exact numbers out of my head but it should be somewhere around that.
But maybe im also biased becausw i just adore rocket vehicles in general and this one really has been a blast to play for me. Definetly happy i bought it when i got it as a sale coupon
It's a neat little gimmicky tank, I could see how people would want it on launch, the sound effects the high arc-fire, on paper it sounds incredible.
But then you realize you have a hard time killing light tanks in it, the Calliope has okay rockets, but it also has a fallback decent 75mm cannon capable of killing most enemies at it's tier. I definitely think the Calliope is a cheaper and better version of the Panzerwerfer.
Would love to see an uncommon soviet tank destroyer get showcased, like the SU-100P. Great pen for br, only thing is it is open topped (day 76)
8:58 - Makes sense as to why it survived as well, most of it is 50+mm of effective armour.
Also makes sense as to why it was removed from being purchasable in-game (aside from the 11th anniversary thing)
Because all my favorite vehicles (including this one) have such a drop before hitting the first tick in the rangefinder, I have swapped my mouse scroll wheel to adjust range rather than camera zoom. Trust me, for low velocity ammo, it is absolutely necessary,
Read online about the vehicel. It was very good at defending agains T34, it has a high accuracy, destroys in the first hit from the front. So Gajin hase to improve the Rockets for that.
"wow this tank sucks guys"
*oneshots literally one of the heaviest armored tanked in low BR*
BR change and the change in HE overpressuring sure made this thing more effective. i remember that this thing coudn't pen anything with old HE mechanic.
For those who don’t know you can actually refund premium vehicles as long as you didn’t play a battle in it. I once bought the F5 premium and then post purchase clarity hit me and asked for a refund. They fortunately did give me my refund and funny enough since I technically owned a rank 5 aircraft I was able to purchase the cobra even after it was removed from my account!
the fact that some tanks have HE with more penetration than those rockets really shows how "usefull" they are
13:46
"You absolute goblin." *obliterates a BT-7*
this is why i love the spooky boy
2:36 the seismic charge sound killed me
this looked damned fun and your edits were comedic gold; thank you for the laughs
I once got a 75% discount on one and was tempted to buy it. It plays much better now than it used to. He received a working rangefinder, and the missiles are more effective. Sometimes, just for fun, I take it to 6.0 and I can always do something.
The P40, the natural nemeses to the SAV. Because for someone reason, you can’t pen that tank if it’s slightly angled in any direction.
6:40
Spookston uses forbidden technique, actually works
I remember "miss clicking" on Chi-Ha Short Gun and asked Support for a refund (i wanted Chi-Nu 2 but i wasn't very sober). Ofc they politely denied me a refund. And then overpressure mechanic was implemented, and i had a lot of great time with Short Gun. Also WT gives me test drives for Pz.W.42 very often, but i won't buy that, it's no fun.
I honestly quite like that thing, I mean I bought it with 75% off and it’s just super fun to take apart almost everything since even the stronger vehicles have little enough armour underneath or above
8:35 Some of your rockets WENT THROUGH THE TANK.
When this thing first came out. If you figured out the projectory with the sites. Your round 8/10 would destroy the enemy vehicles. If it wasn't a pin. It was spaling from the rounds explosive charge.
They nerfed the hell out of it and dropped it in tier as well.
"tried" being the key term you know the snail will never give your money back
I think between the time you bought it and now the way that explosions affect crews have changed to the point where an explosion next to an enemy will kill the crew.
the Panzerwerfer were mostly designed for area bombardment like the soviet Katyusha, pretty deadly.
3:27 am surprised spookston didn't thought of using the sight ajust thing would be really helpfull especialy with this vehicle
If I recall this thing was shoved into warthunder when the flavor of the month was random rocket vehicles and the coming soon British line with a couple under tier British gift tanks with the Firestorm update. This thing came out with the BM-8-24 which is also crap and arguable worse, and the rocket Pershing which is fine, but nobody uses.
Also destructible terrain that would chug computers first got added along with a ton of weird rendering bugs. The entire update was kind of just pain to be honest
I am not ashamed to say I enjoy Spookston's videos more when he specifically puts himself under mental duress for the sake of a video
U could see like his redical wigel wagel a lot when the I-15 dropt the bombs lol. He got the scares
Had 2 options back in the day as a lvl 15:
Either the premium Pz. 4 H or the Panzerwerfer.
So glad i bought the Pz. 4😂
i have no idea how many days i've been asking you to play the AMX M4 and its satisfying to frontally penning every panthers with its PCO-50 receiving a buff
You know it's going to be bad when there isn't a kill count in the thumbnail.
after playing it enough you start to figure out little things that you can use to your advantage. I'd start by adjusting the gunsight to account for the initial drop from the tube.
I think it would get better use if WT give rocket arty it's own arty sights to use for long range, or at least add a estimation of were the targets is. I know phlydaliy did a video with the usage of drones and arty
Pros: looks cool, is very common 2-day free trial vehicle
Cons: sucks balls
You know that you can range the sight? In the setting switch "Mouse wheel" to "Sight distance control" and you can move the 100m mark back to the center.
10:32 in the mod for coh2 "advanced powers" werhmacht can upgrade a panzerwerfer to serve as a SAM half track
Air kills with meme shots are so funny. I still remember a plane kill from like 5 years ago I made on Tunisia with my StuH. It's a shame the rest of the game is pure pain.
This vehicle used to be my highest K/D vehicle before I decided I hate life and wanted to play British 4.7 for the rest of my life. The key to using this vehicle effectively is to always set your ranging to 200 so you can aim properly. This allows you to use your semi-automatic weapon significantly more times than if spend 200000 years trying to figure out where the hell your rockets are going to go
Bro the Lego Star Wars sound effect gets me every time I swear
If you use gun elevation with the keys you can compensate the big drop of the rocket at the beginning
I really love the sound of the Nebelwerfer 15cm rockets. In my headcannon they are the sound of the boltgun rounds in WarHammer40k
"I have tried to return this" *Continues to shred the enemy*
"Oh my God this the worst tank ever"
Stomps the entire lobby
This, this right here is why the e25 is one of the most powerful tanks in history and games; you my friend have figured out the first key to realizing that pen means nothing as long as you CAN pen, you just need to find it and you have enough rounds to search for the damn thing lol
yes im aware you're using rockets and im using shells; point is neither of them have high pen and yet pull very high damage and kills for the simple reason of being able to just fire another round.
Gaijin predicted you were gonna make some decenr gameplay with it lol. It's one of those cases where the premium is specifically made for experienced players who want something out of the usual.
I own Panzerwerfer for some time already (2.0 KD), it's rockets have been nerfed by Gaijin multiple times... but still, it can be very fun to play. There is only one golden rule - use it as ambush vehicle. Find a good spot, hide and wait. Get a kill, change position, repeat.