The Doors - L.A. Woman - Which to choose: the new Analogue Productions UHQR, or their 45rpm 2xLP?

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @davidstanton1261
    @davidstanton1261 3 месяца назад +5

    Thank you Dave!! Thank the Lord I have the 45 version!

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback David!

  • @Jamko1970
    @Jamko1970 3 месяца назад +11

    Great review! I really enjoy the new UHQR 33 rpm and my 45 rpm is excellent too. The UHQR is my new go to.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Glad you liked the review! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @rongreen1538
    @rongreen1538 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for a very enthusiastic and informative review, I enjoyed your video very much.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      You're welcome. Thank you so much for the feedback Ron.

  • @buzzhughes2889
    @buzzhughes2889 3 месяца назад +9

    I agree, have both. UHQR is a better listen. Its more fun

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the feedback Buzz!

  • @Groover71
    @Groover71 3 месяца назад +4

    Great review. You’re spot on. Thanks for showing that the “vinyl community” isn’t an echo chamber and people actually can have their own opinions and not just take one person’s (specifically that dude in Arizona) opinion as if it’s the only one that matters like a bunch of sheep.

  • @Malinois2812
    @Malinois2812 3 месяца назад +3

    To the point as always. Thnx Dave.

    • @drssexy2142
      @drssexy2142 3 месяца назад

      to the point? I aint heard this much umming and erring since Jimmy Saville visited my junior school in the 70s.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @dgross2009
    @dgross2009 3 месяца назад +2

    Finally a review that doesn't relegate this release to the trash heap. I've had the 45 since release. Knew I was going to get them all but didn't opt for the box set for a few reasons. Had to get this UHQR as soon as it was released. Wasn't expecting much since Chad didn't give it a glowing promo vs the 45. Pleasantly surprised that I enjoyed it more than the 45 although I couldn't tell you why.
    BTW highly recommend the record store day box set of outtakes from a couple years ago. Gives new insight into the making of the record and gave me even more respect for Morrison's take charge demeanor during the sessions and his push for perfection. No sign of his impending slide to drug induced depression and eventually death

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks so much feedback!

  • @davepounds8924
    @davepounds8924 3 месяца назад +3

    Nice review! So many other reviews haven’t liked the UHQR compared to the 45 RPM version

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks Dave, glad you enjoyed it. I can only comment on what I hear, and try to convey the differences as I hear them.

  • @lucalone
    @lucalone 3 месяца назад +5

    I think that the UHQR sounds more "natural" than the 45 rpm, and therefore I like it more^
    But when I listen to other channels the 45 rpm is often their "winner"
    Good review.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +2

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review. I've spent the last week avoiding everyone's reviews because I really wanted to get my head around it first. I can see why someone would prefer the 45, but ultimately, I found myself far more involved in the music (foot tapping etc) with the UHQR.

  • @ianmelville452
    @ianmelville452 3 месяца назад

    Very interesting perspective, thanks Dave.

  • @Mutifidus
    @Mutifidus 3 месяца назад +1

    I’ve got these and a few other pressing. My go to is, however, “ L A WOMAN : WORKSHOP SESSIONS. It puts you in the room with them and the mix is spot on.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      That was the RSD release wasn’t it? Kinda regret not buying that one…

  • @BruceFrazer100
    @BruceFrazer100 3 месяца назад +4

    I prefer the 45 version. To me there is a lot more realism . Kudos to AP for the new box at least they are listening to their customers . Great review !!!

    • @austinhunt4260
      @austinhunt4260 3 месяца назад +1

      Listening to Mazzie...

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed the review Bruce. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @austinhunt4260
    @austinhunt4260 3 месяца назад +3

    Dave, I have to admit this UHQR exposed a little of my over-obsessiveness. I saw the announcement and was curious. Then I remembered I had an incredible AP 45rpm at home. Then the FOMO hit me with various reviews like yours and knowing it's limited to 4,500. Then I ordered two copies from Elusive for free shipping, but it had a ship date two weeks hence, which sublimated the FOMO. I thought clearly about it for two days and cancelled my order. The truth is, sometimes great is good enough. And the 45 rpm - better or worse in different ways from the UHQR - is a remarkable production in itself. Great review, as always, Dave. Thanks for your carefully crafted and thoughtful analysis based on meticulous listening.

    • @bluebussdriver
      @bluebussdriver 3 месяца назад +2

      Well done, been there too and not easy.

    • @patmeadows4759
      @patmeadows4759 3 месяца назад +2

      Great overview. Your comparison review style is excellent!! I have an original US Santa Maria version VG+. It is my go to copy. Dynamic realistic rock 1971 version. What it was meant to be. I have many CD and vinyl versions of The Doors. Original US or as one other comment stated - the Rhino 2009 are your next best option. Save your money!!

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks Austin, glad you enjoyed the review. There's no doubt the 45 is truly spectacular. If I didn't have the UHQR I'd probably still be "A-B"ing the 45 against my original...

  • @darrens7040
    @darrens7040 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice review Dave I tend to agree with your findings I still enjoy both, I’m hoping the release all the Doors in this format

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed the review, thanks for the feedback.

  • @tokioPK
    @tokioPK 3 месяца назад +1

    Bloody hell Dave I was thinking this is your JApanese episode with the subtlety of a plain shirt (and not showing off your proud collection of shirts :) but hell no, its matching the LA Woman Yellow!! You fashionable freak you - the Tokyo episode? Took me these releases to start listening to the Doors again coupla years ago, couldn't after teen years in bombay when we heard every album hundreds of times out of limitation of music available. Good to hear your always geeky review as I also found the bass very lacking on these 45rpms, but thats comparing to childhood music which was on tape and a copy of a copy and thus thick in bass. Is it me or all the Doors albums lack in bass, or was it the production? So good to hear that a 33 sounds overall better than the 45 - Chad's not losing his mind after all. Thank you Dave, such a great review. (now to dump my 45 and buy this ;)

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Fashionable Freak?
      I’ll take that, thanks! 😎

  • @QRI75
    @QRI75 3 месяца назад +1

    Great review as always. I have the 45 and have always been happy with it. This has made me consider buying it also. Uk pricing is all over the place. Anyone know what this costs with shipping and taxes to the uk from AP?

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      If you get charged import duty / VAT it'd be around £140-150, if you don't (apparently below a certain value (I think around £130?) you don't get these import charges)... So if only ordering this, It'd then cost you around £120...

  • @Gothic55
    @Gothic55 3 месяца назад +1

    Great review of a sublime album. I have got the 50th Anniversary boxset which includes vinyl and 3 CDs - it was released by Rhino - great boxset which is fine for me. I have quite a few half speed remasters but ultimately prefer Blu-ray remasters which often include 5,1 or ideally Dolby Atmos. Duran Durans recent Danse Macabre album is a great example along with ABC’s Lexicon of love and APP albums such as tales of mystery and imagination.
    Thank you.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      I'd be interested to hear the ABC, thanks for the info Gothic55.

  • @brendan_allard
    @brendan_allard 3 месяца назад +1

    Great review, Dave! I also think the UHQR is slightly better than the 45. Better bass and a nice natural “airy” feel to it. It’s also a nice change to have a 33 rpm. I really want them to do a UHQR for the first album, which is my favorite Doors album.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed the review Brendan. I'm 100% with you in voting for a UHQR of "The Doors"...

  • @rjhome11
    @rjhome11 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video Dave and most helpful as I'm not sure which of these to get - would be very interested in buying the 45rpm off you if you are no longer going to go to it.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      I’ll probably hold into it for a while. But glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks!

  • @revelry1969
    @revelry1969 3 месяца назад +1

    Dave, Thanks for validating my initial thoughts. Something about his cut is things sound far more real. I feel the soundstage is a bit more equalized and not as brash. The 45 is more raucous and piercing at times. I love to hear all the instruments….Bernie did a good job. I suppose if I wanna hear brash one day I will play the 45. If I want to actually hear everything I choose the UHQR. I also like cutting at a lower level allowing more head room to turn up…. Turn it up without making your ears bleed.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      No problem, thanks for the feedback!

  • @hawkmoon369
    @hawkmoon369 3 месяца назад +1

    i
    I got the uhqr and it amazing.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Cool! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @jabensergei
    @jabensergei 3 месяца назад +1

    What an dilema for me now, thanks Dave🙂! Was so close to order 45rpm, but now dont know what to do. DCC version is way to expensive. And of course, thanks for your impressions Dave! Any chance you can post music video's of same track ( 45rpm v.s. UHQR ) as demo on your channel? Normally I wouldnt bother, but regarding this particular album it may help a bit. Thx!

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for your comments, I can’t really post music clips. Sorry.

  • @unityoc
    @unityoc 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if we might get an UltraTape release of this? That would complete the AP lineup in all formats.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      I suspect it's very unlikely, but oh my god, yep, that would be awesome!

  • @jabensergei
    @jabensergei 3 месяца назад

    First of all, appologies Dave that I am using your video for this, but thought it may help some people to make the right choice within their budgets.
    Have been researching quite a lot the last week and just bought, seems by many overlooked 2003 German so called 320 ( number on dead wax ) re-issue, which been mentioned by some folks as very close to DCC Steve Hoffman mastering and cut, which is also very regarded one.
    On that very same named forum folks are split in to 30/30/30/10, where part stick with OG, part with 45rpm, part with both and the rest dont care. Of course, this is not the precise split, but just my own general impression so far. For each his own. Again, thx for your opinion Dave, helped me to search further for sure!

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Glad you found my video useful. Thanks sharing this info. Have heard quite a few very nice “320” pressings…

  • @hemantishwaran5741
    @hemantishwaran5741 3 месяца назад +2

    The 45 remains the undisputed champ and has more bass and presence … but the 33 holds the edge for clarity because of the low noise floor and better vinyl. The 33 is also more convenient. I think they complement each other. I’m keeping both.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      To be honest I'm keeping all three, for the time being at least. Both the AP45 and the UHQR offer something the original doesn't, in different directions. The UHQR and OG win on musical involvement though, which to be honest, was a surprise to me.

  • @BobCoalWater
    @BobCoalWater 3 месяца назад +1

    I have the 45 rpm and I find it uninvolving. I thought it was incompatible with my system since everyone seems seems to love it and I don't. Thanks for the informative review, much appreciate it.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      I have so far avoided anyone else's review. I tend to do that so I can approach the listening completely unbiased...
      I'm not surprised a lot of people prefer the 45. It certainly is impressive, but as you say, the UHQR really got ym foot tapping!
      Thanks for the feedback Bob.

  • @michaelrogers8126
    @michaelrogers8126 3 месяца назад +1

    I have the 2009 Rhino remaster by BG and I think it sounds great. It’s good value for the money ($25.00)

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the recommendation Michael.

  • @nicholaskrebs7815
    @nicholaskrebs7815 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice thoughts/review! I’m not a Doors fanatic and haven’t listened to this album enough to understand the subtle differences. Nor do I own multiple versions. I have the 45 as a fan of classic rock and feel it’s excellent based on how it sounds, but don’t feel the need to compare.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the feedback Nicholas.

  • @tomwebb7091
    @tomwebb7091 3 месяца назад +2

    Short answer.... the 45 is simply better. The UHQR being done at 45rpm would have helped it and i dont get why it isnt. I can safely say every AP cut ive got where its been done at 45 and 33, said cut has ALWAYS sounded notably more alive via the 45 playback. Lynyrd, Miles, Herbie, Brubeck, Steppenwolf etc etc. Then theres the AP 45rpm jazz titles ive got vs their BN Classic versions. 45 rpm for the win each and every time.
    I didnt get into vinyl for convenience!!! Where i draw the line is cutting long songed concept albums like Genesis Lamb Lies or Marvins Whats Goin On at 45rpm... then it is not so good!

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the feedback Tom.

    • @tomwebb7091
      @tomwebb7091 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DaveDenyer Keep up the good work sir. This is the most subjective hobby i know where so many love it but feel differently. You almost need a massive "my ears like it yoirs may not" disclaimer on everything!

    • @Groover71
      @Groover71 3 месяца назад

      @@tomwebb7091you say this yet on the other hand say the 45 is “simply better”, as if that is fact 😂

    • @tomwebb7091
      @tomwebb7091 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Groover71 Its an opinion but also based on fact that 45rpm is inherently superior to 33rpm for sound quality. If you prefer the more expensive and groove compromised 33rpm version then good for you 👍

  • @tonynewman1694
    @tonynewman1694 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video but i wont be getting the UHQR as i have the dcc 33 and AP 45rpm and they both sound great to me 😁👍

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback Tony.

  • @brianbillings6815
    @brianbillings6815 3 месяца назад

    Nice to hear a favorable review of the UHQR. I like that it's 33rpm, getting tired of 2 songs per side. The price being double the 45rpm version is a put off for me though this is an album I may splurge for because of it's composition quality.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      It is an amazing album. Thanks for comments.

  • @awrogers3013
    @awrogers3013 3 месяца назад +1

    The original. Released mixed by the band and put out on that day in 1970. Anything else you’re chasing someone else’s processing vapors

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      I totally agree, although, there are instances (45rpm cuts for example) where the original can be bettered. The sound quality of the original master tape is what I'd consider the definitive 'original' work.

  • @SPAZZOID100
    @SPAZZOID100 3 месяца назад

    45 ALWAYS

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      It certainly has its benefits: dynamics especially so.

  • @mikecoffee100
    @mikecoffee100 3 месяца назад +1

    subscribed

  • @alexoxford500
    @alexoxford500 3 месяца назад +2

    This is a very interesting topic. I came to the absolute opposite opinion about the UHQR. To my ears, it sounds overly compressed with borderline over bloated bass. The at times overbearing bass and kick drum makes Ray's keys sound a bit less prominent and a bit off to me.
    I really like the gritynes (as you put it) in Jim's voice on the 45, it really suits this music. Jim doesnt sound as permanent on the UHQR.
    I am also a person who is annoyed (pissed might be too harsh for what I feel) about the box. It is quite obvious that the boxes are cheaper to manufacture. I think at $150 for a double 45 is already overpriced, so it is quite annoying that they are now putting these overpriced luxury records in a less luxurious box. It just feels cheap, and that is a problem to me because nothing about a UHQR should feel cheap when taking the price into account.
    I really enjoy your reviews and your opinion.
    Cheers

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback Alex.

  • @charlesgund4812
    @charlesgund4812 3 месяца назад +2

    I have to say you have surprised me here Dave…

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      It surprised me too Charles. Initially it could've gone either way!

  • @CANKRAFTWERK
    @CANKRAFTWERK 3 месяца назад +1

    They should only make 45 rpm records. The Price difference is in Germany 40€ from 1 33 uhqr to 2 uhqr

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      Whilst I agree that 45rpm records nearly always sound better, I would rather have a superb 33 of an album like, 'Yes - Going for the One', for example, so that you can fit all of 'Awaken' onto one side...

    • @dgross2009
      @dgross2009 3 месяца назад +1

      Disagree

  • @tiborosz1825
    @tiborosz1825 3 месяца назад +4

    The Rhino pressing is good enough for me😅😅😅. I bet Jim couldn't guve a rat's ass about dynamics space ..he just wants the tunes😅😅😅..like me.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад

      LOL, that is what I like about the UHQR: it conveys the thundering 'groove' so much better.

  • @LetThereBeSound1
    @LetThereBeSound1 3 месяца назад +13

    I don't love the new UHQR. It's a dynamically compressed and in my system the bass is lackluster compared to the DCC or the AP 45rpm. Also the drum kit's impact is wimpish compared to the other two, and to be honest, even as compared to the Rhino Vinyl 180-gram from 2009 done by Bernie Grundman. I like that Rhino Vinyl much better so go figure.

    • @CANKRAFTWERK
      @CANKRAFTWERK 3 месяца назад +2

      Please Play from the best Pressing Riders ON the Storm and make a Video! Unser you LA Woman Video people asking for that.

    • @CANKRAFTWERK
      @CANKRAFTWERK 3 месяца назад +2

      Please with the best equipment that you can get for that video

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +4

      There's no question the 45 sounds far more dynamic, but to my ears, the UHQR sounds more natural, full, and involving.
      Thanks for your comment.

  • @douglasclemens4247
    @douglasclemens4247 3 месяца назад +1

    Some folks must just have too much time on their hands.

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 3 месяца назад +2

    It's a bit conflicting when you say the 45 has the most Clarity but then say it's gritty and harsh and edgy as well.
    And once again as always with this audiophile hobby there is no consensus.
    Some say the 45 is better some say the uhqr.
    It doesn't matter if it's speakers or amps or a dac or even dare I say it cables you'll have a group of people say speaker A is smooth and another group say A is harsh.
    It's almost as if everyone's hearing doesn't work the same. 🤔

    • @austinhunt4260
      @austinhunt4260 3 месяца назад +1

      I don't think it's conflicting at all. To me, clear doesn't mean smooth. It means precise and transparent.

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 3 месяца назад

      @@austinhunt4260
      What does precise mean?
      I've never understood when people try to describe the sound of something and they say it sounds precise or immediate.
      It's like saying something sounds exact.

    • @DaveDenyer
      @DaveDenyer  3 месяца назад +1

      To my ears the 45 is brighter, by quite a margin. The whole tonal balance is tilted towards the top, so the cymbals, guitars etc are far more prominent and, to my ears, 'grate' a little and detracting from the phenomenal "rhythm and groove".
      Of course this is all subjective hence my attempt to explain the differences rather than just "this one's best". As I said the start of this video it took me longer than expected because I was initially seduced by the dynamics and detail of the 45, only later did I realise that I was tapping my foot to the UHQR much more so than to the 45.
      Thanks for your comments!

    • @austinhunt4260
      @austinhunt4260 3 месяца назад +2

      @@crazyprayingmantis5596 Well, I guess it's precise relative to how instruments naturally sound. Maybe accurate is a better word. These adjectives are all relative. If you've ever heard extreme reverb, everything blends together. In my limited audio descriptive vernacular, that's the opposite of precise. I've heard these instruments in person, as I'm sure you have. You know what a kick drum sounds like live and you might know what it sounds like compressed to an MP3. A scrap metal shredder sounds gritty and harsh to me, but if I'm near it while it's shredding, the gritty harshness still sounds clear. It is not veiled or otherwise obstructed. This is highly subjective descriptive language, anyway. And highly imprecise. It's difficult to call someone out on their language when they're describing their sensory perception. That's probably also why it's fun. It's fun for me to watch thoughtful listeners like Dave try to describe their intelligent sensory perception.

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DaveDenyer
      And is that the pressing or your system?
      Because I've heard and read others say the exact opposite, so it's difficult to know whether it's actually baked into 45 itself.