Just sold my 85mm 1.8 after 3 days of owning it and bought the 85 1.4 instead. If you shot with the 85 1.4 before then you will immediately notice that the 85 1.8 doesn't have that magical feeling. The bokeh isn't super pleasing with almost no wow factor unless you shoot waist up. The 85 1.4 may focus slower and might not be as sharp but God damn are the images amazing with perfect subject separation. Love it!
I would really to experience a $1200 Magical Feeling ... not sure a lens could do that. All my stuff is viewed on laptops, pc's or phones ... doubt anyone could tell the difference.
@@TexpatOTG alot of people can't tell the difference between a good photo and a great photo. As long as you're satisfied with your work then that's all that matters.
Love my 85mm f/1.8... I like the size, weight and price...As far as the sharpness... I prefer a sharper image and I can always diffuse my portraits in PP. You can make a sharp image less sharp but cannot sharpen an image that is not sharp in the first place. Along that line, if you would like a less sharp image, there is a plethora of filters which will allow this but, when you take off the filter, the lens becomes sharp again... However, basically the same dynamics occur with the Canon 85mm lenses. The f/1.8 is a bit sharper and focuses faster than the f/1.2 but, the bokeh of the f/1.2 is to die for...
I had the Sony 1.8 before and now I do own the 1.4 G-MASTER and I'm happy- quality and sharpness is so good- I don't care that it's loud and a lot of people keep saying that the Sigma is better. I'm happy with the G-Master and I think I'll have it for some years now.
I love f1.4 but I bought the f1.8, its just a great lens, great image quality and small and light. the weather sealing is nice to have, but really the only advantage to the GM is f1.4 blur. but you are giving up sharpness to get that extra blur. and the only reason to buy an f1.4 lens is to shoot it at f1.4. because otherwise you are carrying all that size and weight around fo nothing, if I was going to buy an 85 f1.4 I think it would be the Samyang at $699, or the Sigma, the Sigma is probably the sharpest at f1.4.
Thanks Andreas! Yea the GM is a BIG BOI 😂 I was just surprised how well the "budget" option stacked up against the flagship! The 1.8 is Def a great lens that I think everyone should have in their kit!
I’d also like to see the 50mm used properly exposed when compared to the 1.8. The 1.8 looks a little better in some shots than it should just because it’s using the correct shutter speed.
I hv also tested both these lenses extensively and I so wanted to keep 1.4GM but unfortunately had to send it back and keep 1.8.. For videos 1.4 somehow doesn't wrk if shot wide open and subject is moving...For static subjects it works beautifully and i love how 1.4 renders the backgrounds.... :)
I think background is the part of an image. So personaly I don't like a fully washed background. Why should I buy a lens which focus is unusable wide open - what should be the power of f1.4 lens???? For static object and for photo f1.4 is a good choice. But I would never buy a lens which AF doesn't work well at every aperture. These comparisons shows us that the cheaper sometimes is better and the more expensive lens is just a hype. For 3-4x price difference this is a shame of Sony.
That is why you have the Samyang 85 1.4 now / for the price of the Sony 1.8 .... and its sharper than the 1.4 GM / sold mine GM after the first samyang rokinon test where public....3rd party is getting pretty aggressive on the Sony line/up....Samyang, Rokinon, Sigma and Tamron will be cannibalizing the Sony line this year.
Your video have better effect. music and color grading that the other comparison on RUclips but unfortunately the other one got more views & interaction. I think it's because the other one have number (the $ difference) in their title. Anyway, this is a very helpful video. Appreciate your efforts a lot
Its Smaller, Lighter, Has Blazing fast focus, Its Sharper, Faster eye detect, Faster auto focus . The Sony 85 f1.8 has a double linear auto focus motor. The GM has a Single linear super sonic wave motor. Also, the Sony 85mm f1.8 is faster focusing in video :) "At the moment, it's cheaper... I don't see anything special about the GM but if I'd spent that kind of money on the GM I would probably be in denial also, and in all likelihood I think I would certainly be defending my purchase. I've heard on the Photography Forums that the 85 f1.8 has a slight colour fringe problem what doesn't get mentioned often is that the GM has colour fringing :/ Anyway for photos it's just a click in Lightroom and it's gone.
Gmaster lenses are damn good but they’re too much money. Even sigma outperforms it for less. Granted I’d say the gmaster is much better for video because of the flare, softer image can be nice, declicked aperture and all that. I use Sony for photography though so the 1.8 suites my needs. Black magic and zeiss fulfill my video needs.
@@MarcTaraz try your 1.8 with the shutter on and off its a big difference. i have both lenses and the 1.8 is much closer in bokeh smoothness with the shutter off. great video thank you for sharing
Oooh, what a channel, what a find👍👍👍👍Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I was choosing between Canon r6m2 and Sony A7m4, I will take the sony.... Please suggest the top portrait lens (budget is unlimited) with the most gorgeous blurred background. And the second lens for shooting 4k travel video with the maximum possible quality and the minimum possible weight, that would for a day of walking around new cities shoulder and back said thank you)))
I’d say the 135mm gm or the 50mm 1.2 gm have some of the best bokeh. For a small compact but quality lens id look into the new 24-70 gm II, or the tamron 35-150
I saw one comparisons here ruclips.net/video/2AqsefQ06OE/видео.html Pretty impressive but the gm still has the nicer bokeh but at a large price difference
What would happen if you changed the aperture of the 1.4 to 1.8 will it match the sharpness of the native 1.8 lens? If so then the 1.4 lens would be great because it will give you the best of both worlds.
@@MarcTaraz Shame though. You'd expect the 1.4 to be superior at that price. I guess it really comes down to better anti fringing, shallower dept of field, manual aperture control and overall softer image.
Great video guys. I have a question please I am intend to buy the 24-70mm 1.8 GM and one of those lenses. What do you think is the best combination for Wedding Photography + Video ? I am taking also any other suggestion. Thanks My Camera is Sony A7 III
I personally love using my sigma 35mm 1.4 and my sony 85mm 1.8. If you're already planning on getting the 24-70 2.8, I'd say get the 85 1.8. It's sharper and focuses faster, and much lighter. For a wedding day when you're carrying around a camera all day it makes a difference.
It's plainly apparent from your shots, for eg. at 3:18, that the 85mm f/1.4 is not really softer than the f/1.8. Rather, in this image your focus point is farther than the eyes and cheeks (it seems to be focused on the temples). You can calibrate and totally correct for this using microfocus adjustments. You should also be comparing both lenses at an aperture setting of 1.8, otherwise it's not a fair comparison.
@@MarcTaraz Of course, but you can't compare the sharpness of 1.4 and 1.8: even if both were perfectly sharp, an aperture of 1.4 would be perceived as softer just because of how much shallower the depth of field was. You can compare other aspects of the image at different apertures (eg.: bokeh), but for a fairer sharpness comparison you have to show 1.4 (at 1.8) vs 1.8 (at 1.8).
I don't get why you compare a 1.8 shot with a 1.4 shot. Such a comparison is fairly useless. You should compare 1.8 with 1.8. That's it. Then we can compare both pictures. Now, there are many comparisons of the Sony 85mm 1.4 vs 1.8 on RUclips. They all spend way to much time talking about sharpness and bokeh quality. From what I understand, both lenses are equally good at sharpness / bokeh at 1.8 vs. 1.8. Now, I know that there's a big hype around the 85mm 1.8, but every time I see a picture from this lens I feel like it's so flat / dull / depressing compared to the 85mm 1.4 that seems to have more 3d pop. The global feeling of a picture (living vs. lifeless) is way more important than pixel peeping and bokeh analysis.
What you say is so true. Why people go on about video this and that and 1.8 is a mystery to me. Sony made the GM for photography 1.4 wide open and made a fantastic lens, they knew that a lot of people may not be able to afford it so they made the 1.8 for them . It is pointless to compare them and the people who say I sold my GM and bought this or that WTF what does that mean you sell something for s loss to buy another lens which is not 1.4????
Just sold my 85mm 1.8 after 3 days of owning it and bought the 85 1.4 instead. If you shot with the 85 1.4 before then you will immediately notice that the 85 1.8 doesn't have that magical feeling. The bokeh isn't super pleasing with almost no wow factor unless you shoot waist up. The 85 1.4 may focus slower and might not be as sharp but God damn are the images amazing with perfect subject separation. Love it!
I would really to experience a $1200 Magical Feeling ... not sure a lens could do that. All my stuff is viewed on laptops, pc's or phones ... doubt anyone could tell the difference.
@@TexpatOTG alot of people can't tell the difference between a good photo and a great photo. As long as you're satisfied with your work then that's all that matters.
Love my 85mm f/1.8... I like the size, weight and price...As far as the sharpness... I prefer a sharper image and I can always diffuse my portraits in PP. You can make a sharp image less sharp but cannot sharpen an image that is not sharp in the first place. Along that line, if you would like a less sharp image, there is a plethora of filters which will allow this but, when you take off the filter, the lens becomes sharp again...
However, basically the same dynamics occur with the Canon 85mm lenses. The f/1.8 is a bit sharper and focuses faster than the f/1.2 but, the bokeh of the f/1.2 is to die for...
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I had the Sony 1.8 before and now I do own the 1.4 G-MASTER and I'm happy- quality and sharpness is so good- I don't care that it's loud and a lot of people keep saying that the Sigma is better. I'm happy with the G-Master and I think I'll have it for some years now.
The 1.8 should be declared a G series Prime. They should make a 35 mm equivalent of this.
and they did !
kalcubemaster they did!? I want it.
They did. And it's fantastic.
Yes they have made it. I bought the 35mm 1.4 recently and having it weigh only 520 grams, ... It's super light and the bokeh is amazing!
I sold my 1.4 and bought the 1.8.
and that was right decision ?
@@MultiEski I can't say it was right. I do miss the 1.4. It's not the same. :(
@@ProbeRoket what do you miss about it
Ben Jin the bokeh.
@@ProbeRoket Man, the look of the 1.4 was so much better and dreamy :/
1.8 is a great lens. Combined with sigma 35 art is all I need.
Awesome comparison video. Haven’t seen anyone do one like this. Keep them coming!
Thank you so much!
I love f1.4 but I bought the f1.8, its just a great lens, great image quality and small and light. the weather sealing is nice to have, but really the only advantage to the GM is f1.4 blur. but you are giving up sharpness to get that extra blur. and the only reason to buy an f1.4 lens is to shoot it at f1.4. because otherwise you are carrying all that size and weight around fo nothing, if I was going to buy an 85 f1.4 I think it would be the Samyang at $699, or the Sigma, the Sigma is probably the sharpest at f1.4.
Great video guys!! Ironically I’m currently trying to decide btw these two lenses so this video was super clutch! Y’all just earned a sub!!
I'm glad you found it helpful! Either way you can't really go wrong! They are both great lenses!
@javed white Which one did you decide on mate?
The G Master that look it has in it's pictures are just amazing worth the extra plus weather sealed is a big one 👌
This size and price factor alone make me wanna get the 1.8 over the GM! Already have to haul the 24-70GM around haha. Great video Marc!
Thanks Andreas! Yea the GM is a BIG BOI 😂 I was just surprised how well the "budget" option stacked up against the flagship! The 1.8 is Def a great lens that I think everyone should have in their kit!
f/1.4 has a shallow depth of field so that could be one of the reasons why it's slower to focus.
I tried GM at 1.8 too, still its very slow in af for video especially if the subject is moving...
Much larger, heavier glass elements in that lens. Maybe there's engineering tradeoffs in focus motor power and current draw from the camera.
I’d also like to see the 50mm used properly exposed when compared to the 1.8. The 1.8 looks a little better in some shots than it should just because it’s using the correct shutter speed.
Thank you
Grate test! Now please same for Sony 85mm 1.8 vs samyang af 85mm 1.4
I hv also tested both these lenses extensively and I so wanted to keep 1.4GM but unfortunately had to send it back and keep 1.8.. For videos 1.4 somehow doesn't wrk if shot wide open and subject is moving...For static subjects it works beautifully and i love how 1.4 renders the backgrounds.... :)
Thanks for this video bro. Helps alot 🙃
You are most welcome! Glad I could help!
insanely helpful vid!
Thanks for the side by side comparison! Great video and details
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Great video Samyang 85 1.4 vs G master 85 please
which one is better for indoor event and portrait shoots in a dark cafe or bar ??
Never stop making videos. I love u…
I don't plan on ever stopping!
85GM really struggle at times in video... but man the photos are so Professional looking! Great review
I was surprised about that! But the photos 😍 so creamy. I'm glad you liked the review!
I paid 1400 euros for the G Master and it's worth. Better lens and I use the a7r iii.
Def going with 1.8 thanks!
You compared these two so nicely. I personally go for the much quicker video autofocus over the creamy bokeh and it’s dizzy-making price.
Well done!
i dient expect such a great video because I just found you. you did so well and it was super helpful
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!
This was a great comparison. Well done.
The focus breathing on the 85 1.8 is jarring. Can't believe I haven't noticed it before.
On my tiny ass phone the bokeh is apparent, 1.4 all the way. Going to get the Samyang for a discount 😅
I think background is the part of an image. So personaly I don't like a fully washed background. Why should I buy a lens which focus is unusable wide open - what should be the power of f1.4 lens???? For static object and for photo f1.4 is a good choice. But I would never buy a lens which AF doesn't work well at every aperture. These comparisons shows us that the cheaper sometimes is better and the more expensive lens is just a hype. For 3-4x price difference this is a shame of Sony.
Great, guys. Thanks!
New subbie, thank you for this video definitely helped me make my decision on whether or not I should upgrade from my 1.8
Ah glad I could help! Welcome to the channel!
Omg.i was just bought 85mm f1.4. Love ur vids so much.))) so helpfully.)))
I'm so glad you like them!! I have a lot of fun making them!
you did an amazing work bro
Remember sharper doesn't mean Better!
Did you compare sharpness for both lenses at 1.8?
Hmm I was thinking about getting the 85 once I get my full frame
Its the perfect portrait lens 😍
That is why you have the Samyang 85 1.4 now / for the price of the Sony 1.8 .... and its sharper than the 1.4 GM / sold mine GM after the first samyang rokinon test where public....3rd party is getting pretty aggressive on the Sony line/up....Samyang, Rokinon, Sigma and Tamron will be cannibalizing the Sony line this year.
It just goes to show the emount is a legit lens mount to invest in! I'm glad there are so many 3rf party options!
You guys didn't offer your opinion on 600 or 1800 ... what gives? I really was expecting a conclusion.
Nice one mate!
Glad you liked it!
damn 85mm f1.8 is a beast
Soooo good
Your video have better effect. music and color grading that the other comparison on RUclips but unfortunately the other one got more views & interaction. I think it's because the other one have number (the $ difference) in their title. Anyway, this is a very helpful video. Appreciate your efforts a lot
Excellent video. Thanks 🤙
I had the 35 1.8 and the 85 1.8, but I just got the 24 1.4. the colors on the g master are so much better lmao not even close
Its Smaller, Lighter, Has Blazing fast focus, Its Sharper, Faster eye detect, Faster auto focus . The Sony 85 f1.8 has a double linear auto focus motor. The GM has a Single linear super sonic wave motor. Also, the Sony 85mm f1.8 is faster focusing in video :) "At the moment, it's cheaper... I don't see anything special about the GM but if I'd spent that kind of money on the GM I would probably be in denial also, and in all likelihood I think I would certainly be defending my purchase. I've heard on the Photography Forums that the 85 f1.8 has a slight colour fringe problem what doesn't get mentioned often is that the GM has colour fringing :/ Anyway for photos it's just a click in Lightroom and it's gone.
haha look at al these people in the comments trying to justify their $1600 purchase xD just admit the 1.8 is better
exactly lol
I have 1.8 i know its better. But u know how this 85 1.4 holds in hand, its just very good looking.
Gmaster lenses are damn good but they’re too much money. Even sigma outperforms it for less. Granted I’d say the gmaster is much better for video because of the flare, softer image can be nice, declicked aperture and all that. I use Sony for photography though so the 1.8 suites my needs. Black magic and zeiss fulfill my video needs.
what camera were you using ?..was the electronic shutter off?
The Sony a7riii
@@MarcTaraz try your 1.8 with the shutter on and off its a big difference. i have both lenses and the 1.8 is much closer in bokeh smoothness with the shutter off. great video thank you for sharing
I shoot all my portraits with it off because of the bokeh issue with mirrorless cameras stunting the bokeh
@@MarcTaraz very good..thanks for the response
I got my 85mm f/1.8 for $450 used from Adorama and I love it!
Just because a lens is super sharp, doesn't necessarily mean its better! haha
It does if sharpness is your metric for quality which is the case for many people
Which camera did you use here?
The A7RIII
Oooh, what a channel, what a find👍👍👍👍Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I was choosing between Canon r6m2 and Sony A7m4, I will take the sony.... Please suggest the top portrait lens (budget is unlimited) with the most gorgeous blurred background. And the second lens for shooting 4k travel video with the maximum possible quality and the minimum possible weight, that would for a day of walking around new cities shoulder and back said thank you)))
I’d say the 135mm gm or the 50mm 1.2 gm have some of the best bokeh. For a small compact but quality lens id look into the new 24-70 gm II, or the tamron 35-150
Hey Buddy Great video... loved it bro.
I'm glad to hear it! I hope it was informative!
Compare both to the Samyang 1.4 that was just released!
I saw one comparisons here
ruclips.net/video/2AqsefQ06OE/видео.html
Pretty impressive but the gm still has the nicer bokeh but at a large price difference
What would happen if you changed the aperture of the 1.4 to 1.8 will it match the sharpness of the native 1.8 lens?
If so then the 1.4 lens would be great because it will give you the best of both worlds.
The 1.8 is sharper throughout.
@@MarcTaraz Shame though. You'd expect the 1.4 to be superior at that price. I guess it really comes down to better anti fringing, shallower dept of field, manual aperture control and overall softer image.
It’s definitely a more creative look that you’re going for
Great video guys. I have a question please I am intend to buy the 24-70mm 1.8 GM and one of those lenses. What do you think is the best combination for Wedding Photography + Video ? I am taking also any other suggestion. Thanks
My Camera is Sony A7 III
I personally love using my sigma 35mm 1.4 and my sony 85mm 1.8. If you're already planning on getting the 24-70 2.8, I'd say get the 85 1.8. It's sharper and focuses faster, and much lighter. For a wedding day when you're carrying around a camera all day it makes a difference.
Better is bliss ergo gm ☑️
It's plainly apparent from your shots, for eg. at 3:18, that the 85mm f/1.4 is not really softer than the f/1.8. Rather, in this image your focus point is farther than the eyes and cheeks (it seems to be focused on the temples). You can calibrate and totally correct for this using microfocus adjustments. You should also be comparing both lenses at an aperture setting of 1.8, otherwise it's not a fair comparison.
If you're gonna spend more than triple the amount on an f1.4 to only shoot it at 1.8, why even bother. That's the entire point of buying the 1.4.
@@MarcTaraz Of course, but you can't compare the sharpness of 1.4 and 1.8: even if both were perfectly sharp, an aperture of 1.4 would be perceived as softer just because of how much shallower the depth of field was. You can compare other aspects of the image at different apertures (eg.: bokeh), but for a fairer sharpness comparison you have to show 1.4 (at 1.8) vs 1.8 (at 1.8).
the photographer focus on the background is creamy or not, the model girls will only see themself in the picture
Good point!
duuuuude, your camera focus flickers like hell.
Haha! I enjoyed this video! Great samples!
is the 85mm 1.8 ff?
Yes
it’s g i r t h y
😂😂😂 you know it
why is this 1.4 vs 1.8
I tuned into this video to focus on Sony lenses, however, how can I focus on focusing when all I focus on is Grayson. I'm in love. Grayson! Call me!
I don't get why you compare a 1.8 shot with a 1.4 shot. Such a comparison is fairly useless. You should compare 1.8 with 1.8. That's it. Then we can compare both pictures. Now, there are many comparisons of the Sony 85mm 1.4 vs 1.8 on RUclips. They all spend way to much time talking about sharpness and bokeh quality. From what I understand, both lenses are equally good at sharpness / bokeh at 1.8 vs. 1.8. Now, I know that there's a big hype around the 85mm 1.8, but every time I see a picture from this lens I feel like it's so flat / dull / depressing compared to the 85mm 1.4 that seems to have more 3d pop. The global feeling of a picture (living vs. lifeless) is way more important than pixel peeping and bokeh analysis.
it's not useless
What you say is so true. Why people go on about video this and that and 1.8 is a mystery to me. Sony made the GM for photography 1.4 wide open and made a fantastic lens, they knew that a lot of people may not be able to afford it so they made the 1.8 for them . It is pointless to compare them and the people who say I sold my GM and bought this or that WTF what does that mean you sell something for s loss to buy another lens which is not 1.4????
So, is Grayson ginger or not?
You should be testing the lenses at the same f stop
Maybe you should expose the 1.4 properly. It is clearly overexposed in most shots.
Next 50mm
Haha we'll see! Gotta see if any of my friends have them!
No
Yeah I returned the 1.4 for then1.8 and haven’t looked back. I don’t need dreamy.
The GM is just so nice on photos, but for video just get the 1.8 stop fooling yourself ahahaha
There are tests that show that the 85/1.4 is sharper stopped down
The GM IQ just destroys the 1.8