Well, I spared him in my first playthrough for the Epilogue bounty that arises when you don't kill him. Arthur guaranteed him some few free bucks by doing a good deed! How kind of him.
Well, I saw the wiki (basically spoiled some parts of the game) while trying to see the bounties I could get as during my time as Arthur, no bounties were appearing. I saw a familiar name: Anthony Foreman. Then with the starting of the Epilogue, came a lot of bounty hunts, and would you know it, he did have a bounty, mine for the taking!
I'd argue that there are more than a "few" missions in which "low honor" Arthur is better suited. At times, especially early on in the game, we could really see just how out of touch with morality he is. In fact, I feel like it's most canonical to play with a lower honor level up until about the point where Arthur is diagnosed with TB. Because this is the point in which we really see a dramatic shift in his perspective on morality, and begin to see things through a more honorable lens, leading him to question all of those brutal and heartless acts that he had committed in his blind and unquestioning loyalty to Dutch.
no matter how honorable you play you still kill a lot of people so arthur probably feels guilty especially about the lawmen whi are only doing their job
@@laurentrinceanu4079 - You mean the same "lawmen" who are using their positions within the federal government to pave the way for crooks like Cornwall? Or the city cops in Saint Denis who were on Bronte's payroll, and tasked with doing his dirty work? Every single one of those so-called "lawmen" got what they had coming to them. You live by the sword; you die by the sword..
He survives this scene every playthrough because of Ms. Tilly. You scared him off in Valentine and now again here. If you have to tell someone twice and one of them times is after an abduction? I’d not allow a third time. But, I didn’t want to betray Tilly. I was very nervous the first time that he was going to come back for her again and the outcome would be tragic. Glad he didn’t.
The best way to play Arthur in my opinion isn't to simply be low honor all the way up until his diagnosis and then suddenly change, but also not to be highly Honorable from the start. The best way is to be inconsistent with his honor at the start, slowly becoming slightly more honorable overall throughout the story. Arthur is a complicated person. He feels guilt over the wrong he does, but he also choses to do a lot of bad things. Like, he might spare Jimmy Brooks simply because he doesn't want to kill him, but then go and rob someone and end up in a shootout because he wants to provide for the gang. He might hug Mickey and then go antagonise a bunch of randos. One thing I tend to do is always Kill the O'Driscoll that runs from the first fight and kill the one in the barn. They're O'Driscolls, the gang's enemies. It makes sense for Arthur at that point to kill them. He's a kind but incredibly flawed man at his core. As Mary Linton said, there's a good man in him wrestling with a giant. He may still give in to violent urges, such as protecting Tilly by killing Anthony Foreman, or he might ultimately let the choice be hers. Depends on the Arthur you play. Let her make the choice, or spare her the risk of running into Anthony again.
I always play Arthur as nice possible with the occasional dishonorable act if the mood strikes or it seems appropriate. And anyone who decides to attack me or get hostile is almost always open season
I too play my Arthur wildly inconsistently. He'll spare Jimmy Brooks on a whim of *_"You caught me in a good mood today"_* or help strangers in most Random Encounters, but he's also perfectly fine with *_not_* defusing an altercation unless he's too close to civilization. Preferring instead antagonize and see if you can write the check you just cashed *_(They never do.)_* A big thing I've made my Arthur do, is that he's usually very polite to people. Always saying hi or good morning *_(something I do myself)_* but any time he's ignored or shown hostility in response, welp, he don't take kindly to that. *(I love every time the first antag response I'll make is **_"Don't take that tone! I SAID..."Hello".)_*
I start out more arbitrary with Arthur, do robberies, kill them as needing killing (and occasionally shoot them on the first refusal to give me money), start trouble with NPCs, but only those who are rude. Sometimes I randomly choose and NPC to pick on. Don't care about the law, bounties, I will shoot NPCs in town if they give me lip. See those on the roads, random an counters, I will help them sometimes. but that women whose horse had died, was way out of my way so I just hog tied her and left her there. I also beat up the fence every time I visit him. By the end of the story I help people more than not. I throw Strauss out of the camp. The camp is finished by then and don't need any extra money, nor does Arthur. So I just keep doing the missions, and some side missions that result in helping them.
I think honourable is better for this mission since “cant take no chances with the likes of you” isnt a very arthur thing to do, especially since he’s the only one to not think that when molly “betrays” the gang. Its also part of the mindset of dutch and micah with turns people against them, as they use it to justify killing people needlessly.
actually saying they cant take chances with the likes of him is pretty fitting for Arthur to say, as he probably means here that he can't risk Anthony Foreman coming for Tilly again if they let him live. because Arthur cares so much about the gang and Tilly he feels like he can't make a decision that will put her life in possible danger again, like releasing Foreman only for him to come and kidnap or kill Tilly later down the road so he has to kill him now to make sure he can't hurt Tilly again
I felt it made more sense for him to spare people not because of his "canon honor" but rather it's made clear from the very beginning that Arthur's biggest flaw is that he's more trusting than the rest of the gang. Kieran is a prime example of this, the gang was fine with leaving him chained up and starving, Arthur included, but Arthur was the first to break and begin to trust him.
My first playthrough I was about as high honor as it gets but I couldn’t logically spare him, they were harassing Tilly before this particular incident also and like Arthur said I couldn’t take no chances. No telling what they were gonna do to poor Tilly in there plus I’d rather her be mad for killing him versus them coming back and killing her every time because realistically nobody knew at the time he’d just be some bounty at the end of the game and I hate spoilers.
@@themadtitan7603 I kinda realized in the beginning Arthur wasn’t gonna be a full blown saint when I did that badass mission when Arthur stopped that train and robbed those people even with the highest honor. Plus some other canon story missions that were not honorable even if Arthur had high honor. I got an impression then that since they were all on the lamb he was tryna be more like Hosea hence what he talks about in his journal in the beginning of the game and avoid big shootouts but still rob people and kill only when he had to like in this instance with Anthony Foreman. He wasn’t a good man, but he had morals. Kinda like Niko in GTA 4
I killed him as well. 'it must be remarked that men are to be well treated or destroyed, for they can avenge themselves of slight wrongs whilst grave ones they cannot'.
Low honor up until around when he starts to get sick then progressively higher and higher honor is what would be the most cannon I think. Most of Arthur and John’s lives they were raised by Dutch and with the gang. So a majority of their lives they just kinda moved with the gang and did whatever they were told or asked without really questioning it. I think once Arthur gets sick he actually starts questioning his life and his past and the choices he has made. I think he just starts to realize he is going to die and it’s making him question what it’s all been for, I like to think the more he questioned it and the more he thought about it the more he wanted to try to do good before he died maybe not really to make up for his wrongs but maybe more so just so he can finally die and be able to say he at least tried to be a good person and to help people
I actually did the low honor choice for this my first playthrough. I didnt trust him and I didnt want letting him live come back and bite us in the ass.
Seeing Susan go full rage at Tilly’s predicament is so satisfying to see. “She’s MINE”. For how much she yells, Susan loved those girls as if their her daughters.
I spared Anthony and when I play as John I encountered him on bounty and when he out of jailed Anthony will ran at you and try to kill you so I killed him with revolver lol your not wrong, killing Anthony should be better
Honestly, I was perfectly comfortable in the gray area of the honor bar, but I will now always end the game on high honor know what the alternative is. As for this scene I wanted to kill him, but I let Tilly take the lead hear, so I respected her choice.
Boy I remember playing this one oh we I was hella mad. I was standing up next to the TV like "come on b**** ass n****** wait till I catch you on my soul its like that, I'm DOING that to you!"
It's an outlaw game. Low honor makes more sense MOST of the time. Though I definitely had moral lines I would not cross, even having the lowest honor possible.
The most satisfying kill for s my low honor run was the guy that recognized arthur in Valentine, the to the point kill was really a lot less hassle than sparing him. Or maybe I'm insane
Well, I played High Honor Arthur. I was kind enough to let him go but then, he apparently felt a bit of a kink on his left shoulder. I decided to help him since I'm a nice feller. I knew this chiropractic technique I learned of attaching a rope to your hands and legs. Then, you apply some l acupuncture points, using your throwing knives, to different points of the body. He appeared to be cold as well so I use some fire, from my fire bottles, to warm him up. At the end of it, he felt so much better that he didn't have anything to say. I love helping people.
Honestly I think the best way to play the game is to paly him as Low Honour as you can stomach until he reaches Saint Denis and the doctor diagnoses him with TB. Then start redeeming him by doing good things until the Red Dead Redemption mission comes to finalize the final mission as Mr Morgan.
You can literally just choose to spare him and as soon as tilly leaves do anything you like with him. Lasso him, set him on fire. Tie him to teain tracks if you want.
@@caesar8683 I wonder if you will still get the bounty in the epilogue if you kill him that way. If you still get it it would be nice, but that means killing him that way wouldn't be canon since his death isn't registered to the story
My favorite mission with low honor Arthur is robbing the house of robbers with Sean I double barrel’d the last guy’s head off after he tells us where the stash is and Sean says your a cold one
theres a cool thing where you spare Anthony and then when you play as john you will find a bounty poster about him idk what town/city maybe saint denis offering 30 or 50 money (easter egg?)
Aorta, Renal Vein, Iliac arteries, these are all massive blood vessels a long blade to the abdomen could cut, and all could render someone unconscious within seconds assuming a full cut. For context the average person loses consciousness if shot in the heart, with movement possible for 7-20 seconds if the person was amped up on drugs or adrenaline. Anyone who has shot deer can attest that sometimes they fall over, sometimes they go for 7-20 seconds, but pretty invariably a blown heart or fully severed great vessel has a motivated target on the ground within seconds, and a surprised one unconscious nearly instantly, with death occurring nearly immediately. Even small openings in the aorta which occur as a consequence of defect from birth (these are like pin holes by comparison) have a 20% fatality rate when they open before the person gets to the hospital.
I spared him in my first playthrough because I felt it made sense for him to tell the rest of his family to stop chasing Tilly. Like I wanted to just kill him but it didn’t make sense to kill the messenger carrying the peace treaty😅. Felt like I was gonna have to protect her again from the rest of the Foremans by adding fuel to the fire of having killed more of them if I didn’t chance it and have him stay alive to tell them to leave her alone.
I've played a few times through now and the way I enjoy playing it most now is starting out being low down and dishonorable up until those key moments that seem to have Arthur seriously reflect on his life. I believe that's why it's so easy to max out honor quick.
Even with all the pent-up hatred, you could tell that deep down Tilly did not want Foreman to be killed. She couldn't even bring herself to say yes when Arthur asked if she wanted him killed, instead just saying she wanted him gone. What a kind soul that Tilly is. Her and Mary-Beth were too pure for the gang, even with their expert thieving skills 🥲
I’m doing my second play through and last night I did this mission and I spared him for the second time, I wanted to kill him but I didn’t want to lose honor
When I first came across the choice I tried to think as if I was Arthur and if letting Anthony foreman go would bite me in the ass later on down the road. Arthur said it perfectly “can’t take no chances with the likes of you”
First time I played RD2 blind, I didn't make an effort to go full high or low honor and was very grey throughout the game, made the latter chapters and ending hit really hard, seeing Micah shoot Arthur even after trying to be better and redeem Arthur he still died the death of a bandit, unceremoniously and brutally
In my opinion, the best way to play Arthur is as low honor in the beginning (take no chances, hardened, little care for others other than those in the gang). Then as the game progresses, become a better man and go high honor. I usually play him low honor to start then as soon as he gets TB in Chapter 6, become a better man in Chapter 6. I find that fits him best, of course by low honor I mean don't needlessly murder and maim like Micah, but just be indifferent to peoples struggles and don't go out of your way to do good things if it doesn't better the gang or line your pockets with money.
on my first playthrough i spared him, even though i had very low honour. the reason was a mix of tillys opinion on it, as hers matters the most and also just didnt seem like itd be an arthur thing to just kill some defenceless guy, even if he did have low honour.
Oh fun fact anyone who wants to play "low honor to high changed" You can go from low to high in the last chapter with stuff like ignoring bounties and stuff So you can kinda play him ruthless at thr start and change him as the storu goes
For me, Arthur starts with an ambiguous honor. He writes that he hopes he doesn't come to regret his decision of sparing jimmy brooks if you don't kill him. Arthur, while certainly not like Micah just shooting anyone he damn well pleases, regardless of consequences, will happily shoot a man in cold blood if the need arises. If he tries to rob someone and they refuse, he might need to beat them up or kill them to avoid the law. One thing I always do is rob a lot of the encounters I find. Plenty of the gang tell you about all the times they've robbed someone they encountered, so it makes no sense for Arthur to be different. For instance the man the O'Driscols beat up outside Valentine. He'll happily kick the O'Driscol's ass, but he's not gonna miss the opportunity to rob the guy himself.
I've finished RDR2 multiple times in the past. Even just a few days ago I reached the epilogue with John again being my 5th playthrough, I believe. But even then, I could not in good conscience make Arthur low honor and just kill mindlessly. He's a bad man for sure, but he only kills when it is a necessity and saves when it is morally correct(i.e. Sadie). To me, he's a robber and a thief with a heart of gold that sucks poison out of your thighs if needed.
If it were me making the title, i'd say it's one of the missions where it's better having high honor, because he pops up as a bounty hunter mission later on!
Grimshaw is utterly annoying but she is at her peak annoyance in this mission. She does absolutely nothing to help out other than chomp her bit but acts like she’s black belle 😂
In my first playthrough, I played a high honor version of Arthur, but I still got rid of Anthony Foreman. Arthur seemed to love Tilly, and in his desire to protect her, letting Anthony Foreman go seemed foolish.
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The way Arthur violently barge in the room and straight up shooting the guy in the face is funny
I did the same thing when I played that part a few weeks ago. It seems like it’s setup up exactly for that
Looked badass as fuck. Straight outta some Tarantino shit.
quick draw
The explosion looks neat
Well, I spared him in my first playthrough for the Epilogue bounty that arises when you don't kill him. Arthur guaranteed him some few free bucks by doing a good deed! How kind of him.
i spared him because tilly said to, it was her business. And got a nice surprise when i had to go capture him again
@@gurpinderwarar4625 he probly googled it
This game is a masterpiece
@Anonymous Unknown he said he spared him FOR the epilogue bounty insinuating that he already knew before he played as John.
Well, I saw the wiki (basically spoiled some parts of the game) while trying to see the bounties I could get as during my time as Arthur, no bounties were appearing. I saw a familiar name: Anthony Foreman. Then with the starting of the Epilogue, came a lot of bounty hunts, and would you know it, he did have a bounty, mine for the taking!
Low honor Arthur is like an intimidating, badass psychopath
Ikr, and I love him like that
@@koniczka2000 and the last ride with music "The Way It Is' low honor ver. is the most emotional scene
@@KUROGAMINGBR I haven't played him as low honour yet, so pls no spoilers 🙏
@@koniczka2000 that's not spoiler bro, i'm just telling what i feel
like the guy from departed
At low honor, I spared him at Tilly's request. For that reason and that reason alone.
i would've killed him at high honor if she didn't say not to.
Grimshaw said it was our call, but indeed it was not.
Same, I respected Tilly too much.
Same, otherwise I would’ve killed him
At high honor I want to kill him but I followed Tilly’s request to spare him.
I'd argue that there are more than a "few" missions in which "low honor" Arthur is better suited. At times, especially early on in the game, we could really see just how out of touch with morality he is. In fact, I feel like it's most canonical to play with a lower honor level up until about the point where Arthur is diagnosed with TB. Because this is the point in which we really see a dramatic shift in his perspective on morality, and begin to see things through a more honorable lens, leading him to question all of those brutal and heartless acts that he had committed in his blind and unquestioning loyalty to Dutch.
@@themadtitan7603 - That's pretty much exactly what I said.
Totally agree
no matter how honorable you play you still kill a lot of people so arthur probably feels guilty especially about the lawmen whi are only doing their job
@@laurentrinceanu4079 - You mean the same "lawmen" who are using their positions within the federal government to pave the way for crooks like Cornwall? Or the city cops in Saint Denis who were on Bronte's payroll, and tasked with doing his dirty work? Every single one of those so-called "lawmen" got what they had coming to them. You live by the sword; you die by the sword..
I never understood that, it doesn't make sense him being low honor, because he's a cold blooded killer being low, it really doesn't make sense
This mission was way too fun, seeing Susan worrying for Tilly was awesome
I love that little scene when Susan slaps Arthur for being too dirty and they both start laughing.
It’s clear she cares so much about them. It’s adorable.
She just wa worried about her property. No humanity in her
@@TigerGoblin what
@@TigerGoblin She definitely loved those girls. Even if she was harsh on them, there are so many interactions that show how much she cared for them.
My high-honour Arthur would have happily disposed of this guy when Tilly wasn’t looking. (I can’t recall whether I was able to or not!)
Yes you can always kill him if you choose
@Jack- we live in a world where The Hulk has said 'bruh'
@Jack-🎃 we live in a world where marvel movies CGI look worse than video games
He survives this scene every playthrough because of Ms. Tilly. You scared him off in Valentine and now again here. If you have to tell someone twice and one of them times is after an abduction? I’d not allow a third time. But, I didn’t want to betray Tilly. I was very nervous the first time that he was going to come back for her again and the outcome would be tragic. Glad he didn’t.
“No more half measures”
Ask once, ask twice if you must, but for god's sake don't ask three times
Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, thrice is a pattern
Unfortunately he does continue doing this stuff.
@@Noah-xq9noat least you can get him as John
I love how Arthur looked at her and said "You want that?" very calmly while putting the knife to the dudes throat
The best way to play Arthur in my opinion isn't to simply be low honor all the way up until his diagnosis and then suddenly change, but also not to be highly Honorable from the start.
The best way is to be inconsistent with his honor at the start, slowly becoming slightly more honorable overall throughout the story. Arthur is a complicated person. He feels guilt over the wrong he does, but he also choses to do a lot of bad things.
Like, he might spare Jimmy Brooks simply because he doesn't want to kill him, but then go and rob someone and end up in a shootout because he wants to provide for the gang. He might hug Mickey and then go antagonise a bunch of randos.
One thing I tend to do is always Kill the O'Driscoll that runs from the first fight and kill the one in the barn. They're O'Driscolls, the gang's enemies. It makes sense for Arthur at that point to kill them.
He's a kind but incredibly flawed man at his core. As Mary Linton said, there's a good man in him wrestling with a giant. He may still give in to violent urges, such as protecting Tilly by killing Anthony Foreman, or he might ultimately let the choice be hers. Depends on the Arthur you play. Let her make the choice, or spare her the risk of running into Anthony again.
I agree. But I do kill Jimmy Brooks. He endangers the entire gang and I think Arthur would not take chances with that
I always play Arthur as nice possible with the occasional dishonorable act if the mood strikes or it seems appropriate. And anyone who decides to attack me or get hostile is almost always open season
I too play my Arthur wildly inconsistently.
He'll spare Jimmy Brooks on a whim of *_"You caught me in a good mood today"_* or help strangers in most Random Encounters, but he's also perfectly fine with *_not_* defusing an altercation unless he's too close to civilization.
Preferring instead antagonize and see if you can write the check you just cashed *_(They never do.)_*
A big thing I've made my Arthur do, is that he's usually very polite to people. Always saying hi or good morning *_(something I do myself)_* but any time he's ignored or shown hostility in response, welp, he don't take kindly to that.
*(I love every time the first antag response I'll make is **_"Don't take that tone! I SAID..."Hello".)_*
I start out more arbitrary with Arthur, do robberies, kill them as needing killing (and occasionally shoot them on the first refusal to give me money), start trouble with NPCs, but only those who are rude. Sometimes I randomly choose and NPC to pick on. Don't care about the law, bounties, I will shoot NPCs in town if they give me lip. See those on the roads, random an counters, I will help them sometimes. but that women whose horse had died, was way out of my way so I just hog tied her and left her there. I also beat up the fence every time I visit him.
By the end of the story I help people more than not. I throw Strauss out of the camp. The camp is finished by then and don't need any extra money, nor does Arthur. So I just keep doing the missions, and some side missions that result in helping them.
This 100%
I love when people tell him he's a good man and he disagrees because he knows it's not that simple
I think honourable is better for this mission since “cant take no chances with the likes of you” isnt a very arthur thing to do, especially since he’s the only one to not think that when molly “betrays” the gang. Its also part of the mindset of dutch and micah with turns people against them, as they use it to justify killing people needlessly.
Maybe he was afraid to lost someone else.
I assumed he meant that Anthony might know where the gang is camped at, and by leaving him alive, he might rat them out and get them all killed.
actually saying they cant take chances with the likes of him is pretty fitting for Arthur to say, as he probably means here that he can't risk Anthony Foreman coming for Tilly again if they let him live. because Arthur cares so much about the gang and Tilly he feels like he can't make a decision that will put her life in possible danger again, like releasing Foreman only for him to come and kidnap or kill Tilly later down the road so he has to kill him now to make sure he can't hurt Tilly again
I felt it made more sense for him to spare people not because of his "canon honor" but rather it's made clear from the very beginning that Arthur's biggest flaw is that he's more trusting than the rest of the gang. Kieran is a prime example of this, the gang was fine with leaving him chained up and starving, Arthur included, but Arthur was the first to break and begin to trust him.
I killed him because he was warned once, in valentine, you don't get a second warning.
If you spare foreman, you get honor, and you get to go bounty hunting for him in the epilogue.
But then you would miss out on a bounty mission that you could do as John.
My first playthrough I was about as high honor as it gets but I couldn’t logically spare him, they were harassing Tilly before this particular incident also and like Arthur said I couldn’t take no chances. No telling what they were gonna do to poor Tilly in there plus I’d rather her be mad for killing him versus them coming back and killing her every time because realistically nobody knew at the time he’d just be some bounty at the end of the game and I hate spoilers.
@@themadtitan7603 I kinda realized in the beginning Arthur wasn’t gonna be a full blown saint when I did that badass mission when Arthur stopped that train and robbed those people even with the highest honor. Plus some other canon story missions that were not honorable even if Arthur had high honor. I got an impression then that since they were all on the lamb he was tryna be more like Hosea hence what he talks about in his journal in the beginning of the game and avoid big shootouts but still rob people and kill only when he had to like in this instance with Anthony Foreman. He wasn’t a good man, but he had morals. Kinda like Niko in GTA 4
I killed him as well.
'it must be remarked that men are to be well treated or destroyed, for they can avenge themselves of slight wrongs whilst grave ones they cannot'.
1:22 "You want that?" Low honor Arthur can still be a badass for the right reasons
It's cool - when u spare him, it lights up golden for a sec - cuz of the good boi deer. But when u kill him, it goes silver (cool touch)
On my first run I killed Anthony for the same reason Arthur says when he stabbed him
Low honor up until around when he starts to get sick then progressively higher and higher honor is what would be the most cannon I think. Most of Arthur and John’s lives they were raised by Dutch and with the gang. So a majority of their lives they just kinda moved with the gang and did whatever they were told or asked without really questioning it. I think once Arthur gets sick he actually starts questioning his life and his past and the choices he has made. I think he just starts to realize he is going to die and it’s making him question what it’s all been for, I like to think the more he questioned it and the more he thought about it the more he wanted to try to do good before he died maybe not really to make up for his wrongs but maybe more so just so he can finally die and be able to say he at least tried to be a good person and to help people
I actually did the low honor choice for this my first playthrough. I didnt trust him and I didnt want letting him live come back and bite us in the ass.
Same
I love how there's that subtle flash every time you kill someone
I always spared him because of Ms. Tilly. It was her wish to let him go so I respected that.
Seeing Susan go full rage at Tilly’s predicament is so satisfying to see. “She’s MINE”. For how much she yells, Susan loved those girls as if their her daughters.
Susan Grimshaw was unironically one of the most badass members of the Van Der Linde gang.
This ain't low honour tho. Killing Anthony ain't wrong
Idk, it seems kinda ruthless and coldblooded specially considering that Tilly wanted you to let him go.
@@Strangeminds38 ruthless towards the one who deserve it. Arthur is an outlaw with a moral compass. Not a saint.
@@Flash36593 Until chapter 6
No no they meant Arthur had low honor so therefore his mannerisms and dialogue were changed a little bit for this mission
I spared Anthony and when I play as John I encountered him on bounty and when he out of jailed Anthony will ran at you and try to kill you so I killed him with revolver lol your not wrong, killing Anthony should be better
Honestly, I was perfectly comfortable in the gray area of the honor bar, but I will now always end the game on high honor know what the alternative is.
As for this scene I wanted to kill him, but I let Tilly take the lead hear, so I respected her choice.
Boy I remember playing this one oh we I was hella mad. I was standing up next to the TV like "come on b**** ass n****** wait till I catch you on my soul its like that, I'm DOING that to you!"
Damn. He didn’t even slit his throat, he went right for the gut. Hard as hell.
Yo the thumbnail is awesome bro great job
It's an outlaw game. Low honor makes more sense MOST of the time. Though I definitely had moral lines I would not cross, even having the lowest honor possible.
Explosive shotgun NEVER gets old
The most satisfying kill for s my low honor run was the guy that recognized arthur in Valentine, the to the point kill was really a lot less hassle than sparing him. Or maybe I'm insane
0:44 love how he just rolls off the horse's neck
I always spare him so that I can arrest him later as John, tbh.
Spare him regardless because you can collect his bounty as John. Bringing him alive has some fun dialogue.
Well, I played High Honor Arthur. I was kind enough to let him go but then, he apparently felt a bit of a kink on his left shoulder.
I decided to help him since I'm a nice feller. I knew this chiropractic technique I learned of attaching a rope to your hands and legs. Then, you apply some l acupuncture points, using your throwing knives, to different points of the body. He appeared to be cold as well so I use some fire, from my fire bottles, to warm him up. At the end of it, he felt so much better that he didn't have anything to say.
I love helping people.
it was tillys call, and she would know how to deal with Anthony foreman more than anybody there
Honestly I think the best way to play the game is to paly him as Low Honour as you can stomach until he reaches Saint Denis and the doctor diagnoses him with TB. Then start redeeming him by doing good things until the Red Dead Redemption mission comes to finalize the final mission as Mr Morgan.
I’ve never in my days had Arthur finish on bad honour but this is tempting
I completely forgot Anthony was in the singleplayer portion of the game , I thought that he was just a Blood Money character for Online
Nice touch how the screen does that 'death pulse' effect after the guy goes down.
I've never spared him, even as high honor Arthur. It just bugs me that I can't kill him my own way. I carry fire bottles for a reason, you know.
You can literally just choose to spare him and as soon as tilly leaves do anything you like with him. Lasso him, set him on fire. Tie him to teain tracks if you want.
@@caesar8683 I liked to spare him as Tilly requested. Then after she leaves hogtie him and place a stick of dynamite on him.
@@caesar8683 I wonder if you will still get the bounty in the epilogue if you kill him that way. If you still get it it would be nice, but that means killing him that way wouldn't be canon since his death isn't registered to the story
the EXPLOSIVE bullet there are the intro was so fast it killed me watching the damn video
After Arthur stabs him, you can hear the strength he puts into the push in his voice. That little detail shows how much care they put into the scenes.
unpopular opinion: low honor arthur is a better way to play the game and a better ending too, only if you help john
I always keep the horse from this mission
Yah its a rare one i think but not that good in stats
I never liked it
“They went out hunting”
Opens door and they’re 20 ft away…
My favorite mission with low honor Arthur is robbing the house of robbers with Sean I double barrel’d the last guy’s head off after he tells us where the stash is and Sean says your a cold one
theres a cool thing where you spare Anthony and then when you play as john you will find a bounty poster about him idk what town/city maybe saint denis offering 30 or 50 money (easter egg?)
Instant death from a stomach stab?
If you get stabbed anywhere on your aorta you die pretty quick
Probably passed out super fast from shock/blood loss.
Well it's Arthur doing the stabbing
Aorta, Renal Vein, Iliac arteries, these are all massive blood vessels a long blade to the abdomen could cut, and all could render someone unconscious within seconds assuming a full cut. For context the average person loses consciousness if shot in the heart, with movement possible for 7-20 seconds if the person was amped up on drugs or adrenaline. Anyone who has shot deer can attest that sometimes they fall over, sometimes they go for 7-20 seconds, but pretty invariably a blown heart or fully severed great vessel has a motivated target on the ground within seconds, and a surprised one unconscious nearly instantly, with death occurring nearly immediately. Even small openings in the aorta which occur as a consequence of defect from birth (these are like pin holes by comparison) have a 20% fatality rate when they open before the person gets to the hospital.
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I spared him in my first playthrough because I felt it made sense for him to tell the rest of his family to stop chasing Tilly. Like I wanted to just kill him but it didn’t make sense to kill the messenger carrying the peace treaty😅. Felt like I was gonna have to protect her again from the rest of the Foremans by adding fuel to the fire of having killed more of them if I didn’t chance it and have him stay alive to tell them to leave her alone.
I left the choice up to Tilly and respected it because taking that choice from her would of felt wrong to me after all she’s been through
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Yeah lol 😂😂
Lol 😂🤠
Horse has an incredibly strong neck
Grimshaw: she's not yours, she's mine!
Tilly: I beg your pardon?
I do think that even with a high honor playthrough, this would be the choice Arthur picks because it would keep the gang safe.
Jeez that first one blew him away 😳
*throws Anthony OVER the horse, landing on his head*
"He still alive?"
I never considered this a moral decision but a practical one
I've played a few times through now and the way I enjoy playing it most now is starting out being low down and dishonorable up until those key moments that seem to have Arthur seriously reflect on his life. I believe that's why it's so easy to max out honor quick.
I ended up keeping that apaloosa, and she became my primary horse after I lost my other one. I was sad when she died at the end.
to me, the best way to play RDR2 is to be the meaniest fucker until Cuba then really go for the redemption.
Even with all the pent-up hatred, you could tell that deep down Tilly did not want Foreman to be killed. She couldn't even bring herself to say yes when Arthur asked if she wanted him killed, instead just saying she wanted him gone.
What a kind soul that Tilly is. Her and Mary-Beth were too pure for the gang, even with their expert thieving skills 🥲
I’m doing my second play through and last night I did this mission and I spared him for the second time, I wanted to kill him but I didn’t want to lose honor
Honor is too easy to grind tbh, if it makes sense to your Arthur just make it up with a few friendly "hello"s lol
i think you don't actually lose honor, you just don't gain any
When I first came across the choice I tried to think as if I was Arthur and if letting Anthony foreman go would bite me in the ass later on down the road. Arthur said it perfectly “can’t take no chances with the likes of you”
"You want that?"
- Arthur Morgan
People forget that Arthur is the enforcer of the Gang if there’s a threat or witness to the Gang and their movements, Arthur extinguishes them
Fun fact: if you have one of the secret knives in the holster it will play out in this cutscene
0:46 love how Arthur just kicked him
The video is about Arthur but let's just appreciate how menacing miss Grimshaw is at this point.
Thats a good look for Morgan in the first one.
in the epilogue you can take Foreman as a bountry with John
0:45 I nearly spat out the coffee I was drinking
If you spare him though you get to encounter him again later in the game as a bounty.
First time I played RD2 blind, I didn't make an effort to go full high or low honor and was very grey throughout the game, made the latter chapters and ending hit really hard, seeing Micah shoot Arthur even after trying to be better and redeem Arthur he still died the death of a bandit, unceremoniously and brutally
Awesome videos people, please keep up the awesome work people, you're welcome people!
Bro opened the door and obliterated that dude
idk why but I am reminded of woody with that outfit and I think it looks really good on arthur
In my opinion, the best way to play Arthur is as low honor in the beginning (take no chances, hardened, little care for others other than those in the gang). Then as the game progresses, become a better man and go high honor. I usually play him low honor to start then as soon as he gets TB in Chapter 6, become a better man in Chapter 6. I find that fits him best, of course by low honor I mean don't needlessly murder and maim like Micah, but just be indifferent to peoples struggles and don't go out of your way to do good things if it doesn't better the gang or line your pockets with money.
on my first playthrough i spared him, even though i had very low honour. the reason was a mix of tillys opinion on it, as hers matters the most and also just didnt seem like itd be an arthur thing to just kill some defenceless guy, even if he did have low honour.
I was low honour in this mission and then in the end of the game I gained more and more honour
Oh fun fact anyone who wants to play "low honor to high changed"
You can go from low to high in the last chapter with stuff like ignoring bounties and stuff
So you can kinda play him ruthless at thr start and change him as the storu goes
I wish there was a more ambiguous way to do it, like leave him tied up in the house surrounded by the other dead or something
For me, Arthur starts with an ambiguous honor.
He writes that he hopes he doesn't come to regret his decision of sparing jimmy brooks if you don't kill him. Arthur, while certainly not like Micah just shooting anyone he damn well pleases, regardless of consequences, will happily shoot a man in cold blood if the need arises.
If he tries to rob someone and they refuse, he might need to beat them up or kill them to avoid the law. One thing I always do is rob a lot of the encounters I find. Plenty of the gang tell you about all the times they've robbed someone they encountered, so it makes no sense for Arthur to be different. For instance the man the O'Driscols beat up outside Valentine. He'll happily kick the O'Driscol's ass, but he's not gonna miss the opportunity to rob the guy himself.
I never realized that Anthony is in online. Over 400 hours into RDR2 and I never realized it
the cannon arthur is low honor till he finds out he has tb so he redeems himself and gets the high honor ending
When say a person’s full name backed then out of anger, someone was definitely pissed. >_
Grimshaw looks like a 5th grade math teacher
I've finished RDR2 multiple times in the past. Even just a few days ago I reached the epilogue with John again being my 5th playthrough, I believe. But even then, I could not in good conscience make Arthur low honor and just kill mindlessly. He's a bad man for sure, but he only kills when it is a necessity and saves when it is morally correct(i.e. Sadie).
To me, he's a robber and a thief with a heart of gold that sucks poison out of your thighs if needed.
That's a rare horse you get in this mission
If it were me making the title, i'd say it's one of the missions where it's better having high honor, because he pops up as a bounty hunter mission later on!
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Grimshaw is utterly annoying but she is at her peak annoyance in this mission. She does absolutely nothing to help out other than chomp her bit but acts like she’s black belle 😂
Love the outfit along with the hair and beard
The camp ladies were just as badass as them men folk.
The gut jab, too. Arthur did Anthony dirty.
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even the horse got low honor
Ah, just stick him, and go to town and say hi to a bunch of folks... win win!
i just wish there werent so many black and white responses this is the only grey one imo
In my first playthrough, I played a high honor version of Arthur, but I still got rid of Anthony Foreman. Arthur seemed to love Tilly, and in his desire to protect her, letting Anthony Foreman go seemed foolish.
Man I kept that horse and stabled it when I loaded the game back up it was gone bummer , I got cause we love Dalmatians.
Man I wish they would release a 60fps update so I can come back to this game
Best part about this mission is you can keep the horse that you chase Anthony with.