Still cant believe they didnt expect it, i had the pleasure of playing a game with ana as IO carry a month or two before this TI happened. I saw this from a mile away
Liquid already beat carry IO vs Team Secret, but with meepo and lesh. They have the good strategy against them, but they have bad heroes to execute it. In the Liquid vs Secret, both meepo and lesh can push a lane alone, but this team comp cannot do it.
@@trollinggaming9903 > Liquid already beat carry IO vs Team Secret, but with meepo and lesh. That's like saying I won a game of basketball by just throwing 3 pointers against toddlers.
its kuro being unaware of it, what a loser, a herlad could've seen that coming. I even don't play much and I was like wtf is this moron waiting for? it was so obvious.
It was too late tho. And him telling everyone else in liquid to not pick their heroes immediately was useless for that game coz it was clear cut who was playing what in liquid
I don't think they're clueless, because they ban the iO 3 games before this as I remember Liquid just decided to play on their comfort in the last chance they had
Yeah its misleading, they were only confused cause of the gyropick who playing what. Ana played it multiple times before that ti, so of course they knew of it.
Io carry was good... But really.. Liquid had that game going in their favour. For me it wasn't the IO carty but the Diffusal gyro was what changes the game
Agree but OG was still lacking damage. The io carry just completed that lineup. Liquid just couldnt focus on one of them coz kill io, gyro gonna burn mana and youll die to io spirits and timber. Kill gyro to get rid of manaburn, io keeps him alive while he's killing you together with timber. You just cant ignore it. Liquid didnt have any burst to take down one or the other.
@@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623 yea dont forget the fucking abadon keep healing the shit from the backline with mist coil and apothic shield, becaming real nuisances, OG line up though lack damage but its built to sustain against chen, bb, omni lineup
Because abaddon, timber and tiny is confusing 😂. If you are in the right mind playing dota, one would expect that gyro carry and timber mid. That is why OG is really something else.
How can u blame them if they're confused bout io carry or not when they got gyro timber aba in the team. All of them were common sense heroes w role. It was 2019 dota playstyle before people started to play sup hero as core and core hero as sup like u have nowdays as tb pos 4/5. And its literally basic combo w gyro 1 n io 5. Hence, narrow their lineup draft w timber tiny abaddon flexible and OG make it work as u can see in ti9
LMAO come on. This is so clueless from the channel. Everyone was banning IO against OG in TI9 because it was broken and only Ana knew how to play it well. Liquid played against Nisha’s Io carry before reaching Grand Finals and OG has used Io carry in games before the GF. Please get your facts straight. Miracle told Kuro to let the Io through and play against it. But it didn’t work out. That was all. It was a broken hero and got nerfed not long after TI9.
why are you blaming the channel lol, he just started the fact that liquid are clueless and in the video we saw itself they are actually clueless it's a carry io
man, what the fuck are you chatting? they straight up did not figure out that ana was playing io here. They had the roles completely wrong. if they knew about OG's IO why is it not mentioned here? bizarre comment, bot account name, only seeing negatives in something that is clear as day. either a liquid fanboy or russian bot lmao
1:30 I remember seeing this score for the first time, I always thought I saw it wrongly until now it proved I am not wrong, crazy score hahaha. Too bad why competition nowadays didn't show this scoreboard live.
This was a throw game tho. TL should won the game if miracle just go bloodstone shiva octane. But instead go s&y. Thats the reason diffusal gyro was good cause of his low mana pool.
They want fast game, theyre on huge timer, those items you're talking about is expensive as shit, total roughly 15k gold, once miracle get those items both ana and topson would probably have the same standing but Gyro Io beat the living shit out of bb wr in late game, theres no chance in hell liquid can win in late game, they all know this, thays why they push for ultra fast game when they still have chance to win clashes, sny makes sense, its cheap, its reliable, movement speed, health, slow, resistance, all needed to kite and win fight.
No it isn't Kuro completely guesses lanes and heroes as wrong as it could be completely misunderstanding why they were banning Io all series which was Ana's carry Io. Gh's expression after Kuro's guess part always makes me laugh. Could be an editing trick but then it's just the editor[slacks I'd assume] telling us his feelings on Kuro's guess on the lanes.😊
This Grand Final broke me as liquid fan. Kuro was so fixed on playing like OG but he did not think that to play like OG, they need to have the chemistry like OG.
Can't believe the entire team forgot OG played io carry with 100% winrate. If anything, this shows that team liquid did not respect OG at all. They don't even bother to study them
Nah, they knew about OG's IO. Kuro was too cocky durint this series thinking they could beat the IO. He even ignored miracle asking to ban ember or pick it for him their previous game and OG picked ember and they got destroyed by that ember destroyed them
@@smilingcat3851 0:33 literally they all thought it was non-carry IO. Man, they made so many mistakes. I remember back in the day feeling like LGD vs OG was the true final.
mind control being mind fuck in this series he even have to sell items just to buy dagger.. i would hate having kuro as my captain it's like 4v6 here 😅.
In the context of that tournament ana IO is feared well known. After 100% winrate in that TI every team learned to ban IO so it doesnt get picked by OG as carry.
@@faizalqorni7969 I know what you mean... but what i meant was OG's draft was so unorthodox..they played IO carry in other games but with a diff draftin for the other roles which made it look like IO was the carry..not here though... i get what u mean though..
@@weird_perspective68 Sure, no problem. Calling everyone here have no idea about drafting is too much though. Most people knows, even kky should have known better, the other 3 games they banned Io first phase and somehow kky said "nah it's Ana Gyro"
@Switch-td8rl 2nd one was deserved! They were the best team in that TI! But the first one was pure luck and throw by LGD! In upper bracket final and in the grand final
"They must have amnesia. They forgot that I'm him." - Ana playing Io
Miracle: i won my last game with BB.
Ana: I have 48-8 w/l and 15 Wins in a Row, now its 16 😂
53/8 cuz lobby doesnt count 😂
48-8 isn't really that scary compared to some 200 wins 30 loses arc warden, timber, TB.
@@jqa16it's scary when Ana is the one playing it
@@jqa16 Are you really comparing 48-8 ana io to some 200 wins low tier immortal games?
@@jqa16i mean consider ana mmr, don’t compare with smurf shit win rates 😂
1:28 That entrance of the OG heroes with the background sound is spectacular
Still cant believe they didnt expect it, i had the pleasure of playing a game with ana as IO carry a month or two before this TI happened. I saw this from a mile away
They were already discussing about banning the io first or getting it first that is why
They were already playing it during group stage right.
gh knew, he just didnt speak up. see his face? haha
They picked it against NiP in the groupstage but ok buddy 😂
You didn’t
ana spamming io carry in the groupstage and liquid still not aware😂😂😂😂😂😂
Liquid already beat carry IO vs Team Secret, but with meepo and lesh. They have the good strategy against them, but they have bad heroes to execute it. In the Liquid vs Secret, both meepo and lesh can push a lane alone, but this team comp cannot do it.
@@trollinggaming9903team secret has no practice with io. They just copied Og's strat. OG ana has been spamming the io in preparation for TI.
@@trollinggaming9903
> Liquid already beat carry IO vs Team Secret, but with meepo and lesh.
That's like saying I won a game of basketball by just throwing 3 pointers against toddlers.
its kuro being unaware of it, what a loser, a herlad could've seen that coming. I even don't play much and I was like wtf is this moron waiting for? it was so obvious.
Gh expression tells us he doesn't like their team's pick🤣
He knows something's wrong with their picks and what they think about OG's draft 😂
Only MC notice the pattern..
kuro indeed are slow. put MC on captain and kuro back to carry. Or just disband kuro
It was too late tho. And him telling everyone else in liquid to not pick their heroes immediately was useless for that game coz it was clear cut who was playing what in liquid
And gh kinda
GH caught something was wrong as well.. look at his face while in picking phase. Kuro should be open to opinion and discussion for real
@@a-2-z856 ah yes, he squint his eyes every time kuro says something lol
to all the kids saying yotoro is the best carry ever. remember that he had to put "god" on his name while ana is called the god of dota
Low rank dog crying
@@kyle-cx1uy you? yeah its obvious you have a trash anime wallpaper
Bro, ana also used the name Humblegod
@@krisantovocal5515and the "humblegod" got humbled and decided to quit pro dota 😂
@@user-sk8sx1ik7k zing
Love it when w33 wind decided to ult timber all the time in that game. The tankiest hero lmao
Focus fire of desperation? xD
@@ShemskaDota They aim timber first so BB wont be pressured
I don't think they're clueless, because they ban the iO 3 games before this as I remember
Liquid just decided to play on their comfort in the last chance they had
Yeah its misleading, they were only confused cause of the gyropick who playing what. Ana played it multiple times before that ti, so of course they knew of it.
True shit....they wanna do their shit
Missed og old time, very nice to watch
ya less farm more fight
Io carry was good... But really.. Liquid had that game going in their favour. For me it wasn't the IO carty but the Diffusal gyro was what changes the game
Agree but OG was still lacking damage. The io carry just completed that lineup. Liquid just couldnt focus on one of them coz kill io, gyro gonna burn mana and youll die to io spirits and timber. Kill gyro to get rid of manaburn, io keeps him alive while he's killing you together with timber. You just cant ignore it. Liquid didnt have any burst to take down one or the other.
@@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623 great analysis. We should become drinking buddies
@@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623 yea dont forget the fucking abadon keep healing the shit from the backline with mist coil and apothic shield, becaming real nuisances, OG line up though lack damage but its built to sustain against chen, bb, omni lineup
I think they know about ana Io, but cant be sure who will play it, whether its ana, jerax or notail
Being the captain, Mr Bald has no clue what’s going on 😂😂😂
Even kuro couldn’t figure out
I swear 😂 how can you not figure it out when io carry was played in the group stages 😂
@@Chronus21 Twice, lol. Like, did Liquod even do their homework?
@@scipio764 that's what. Clearly can see in the true sight video RMN had mentioned in both games ban ember n void but Kuro be like 'No' 🤣
Because abaddon, timber and tiny is confusing 😂. If you are in the right mind playing dota, one would expect that gyro carry and timber mid. That is why OG is really something else.
How can u blame them if they're confused bout io carry or not when they got gyro timber aba in the team. All of them were common sense heroes w role. It was 2019 dota playstyle before people started to play sup hero as core and core hero as sup like u have nowdays as tb pos 4/5. And its literally basic combo w gyro 1 n io 5. Hence, narrow their lineup draft w timber tiny abaddon flexible and OG make it work as u can see in ti9
Because OG was infamous for using it earlier in the tournament (e.g., against Newbee)
LMAO come on. This is so clueless from the channel. Everyone was banning IO against OG in TI9 because it was broken and only Ana knew how to play it well. Liquid played against Nisha’s Io carry before reaching Grand Finals and OG has used Io carry in games before the GF.
Please get your facts straight. Miracle told Kuro to let the Io through and play against it. But it didn’t work out. That was all. It was a broken hero and got nerfed not long after TI9.
why are you blaming the channel lol, he just started the fact that liquid are clueless and in the video we saw itself they are actually clueless it's a carry io
@@ShezPlays Watch True Sight and the whole TI9, then reply again.
@@monkeygay-l7w just watch this particular video and the title, then Talk :)
man, what the fuck are you chatting? they straight up did not figure out that ana was playing io here. They had the roles completely wrong. if they knew about OG's IO why is it not mentioned here?
bizarre comment, bot account name, only seeing negatives in something that is clear as day. either a liquid fanboy or russian bot lmao
@@ShezPlays 2 mins attention span
1:30 I remember seeing this score for the first time, I always thought I saw it wrongly until now it proved I am not wrong, crazy score hahaha. Too bad why competition nowadays didn't show this scoreboard live.
If CLUELESS had a voice
NEW EMOTION?
Liquid almost won this match until Topson bought Diffusal
They traded it for chen; watch it again on that game. 58:05 was the timestamp on true sight
man this is such a cool era of dota
now everything changes 😢
This is the best TI ever. Fight me
Na TI8 is the best...
This TI is OG domination...
OG vs LGD was the best BO5 of all time
Notail is the goat
For me too
And im everyone's GOD!!
@@puffpuffpanda4383 cringe ml players 🤦♂️
Can’t argue with you on that. His resume and accolades are goated for sure.
- EG fan (2014-2022)
@@willsam6549 just because I have pfp of ML doesn't mean I play lol I left ml long time + you black don't talk to me
This is why I love PRO DotA2 scene, people make shit like this for the lols
Kuroky's ego cost him this tournament
and then the iconic gyro diffusal happens BB cant do $hit on that mana burn
This was a throw game tho. TL should won the game if miracle just go bloodstone shiva octane. But instead go s&y. Thats the reason diffusal gyro was good cause of his low mana pool.
Yeah you right bro. Miracle got greedy
They want fast game, theyre on huge timer, those items you're talking about is expensive as shit, total roughly 15k gold, once miracle get those items both ana and topson would probably have the same standing but Gyro Io beat the living shit out of bb wr in late game, theres no chance in hell liquid can win in late game, they all know this, thays why they push for ultra fast game when they still have chance to win clashes, sny makes sense, its cheap, its reliable, movement speed, health, slow, resistance, all needed to kite and win fight.
No they are not, they banned it past 3 games plus OG already used it against Newbee.
Or do they forgot it because of the pressure?
@@ShemskaDota i think he says before the draft "Do you wanna leave the IO" because they need a way to beat it, otherwise they give a free ban to OG.
@@backspacc Yeah were just overthingking so much because they are on the verge on losing the TI
And the moment when Liquid realizes they are fucked
Still one of the best og of all time
title missleading
No it isn't Kuro completely guesses lanes and heroes as wrong as it could be completely misunderstanding why they were banning Io all series which was Ana's carry Io.
Gh's expression after Kuro's guess part always makes me laugh. Could be an editing trick but then it's just the editor[slacks I'd assume] telling us his feelings on Kuro's guess on the lanes.😊
this editing goes crazy
Yeah that’s why ppl are complaining and begging for valve to release the true sight asap
U know u are a winner when u got your opponent's captain all wrong on whos playing who😂
I think they could've won if only Topson didn't bought that diffusal tho
This Grand Final broke me as liquid fan. Kuro was so fixed on playing like OG but he did not think that to play like OG, they need to have the chemistry like OG.
still legendary moment. event ceb sweating
w33 has zero pro mentality. he is always excited, compulsive and selfish. i love him being put into place.
Can't believe the entire team forgot OG played io carry with 100% winrate. If anything, this shows that team liquid did not respect OG at all. They don't even bother to study them
Could've been an epic match if kuro let MC play NP 😢
Why on earth would you pick Windranger against Abaddon, Tiny, Timber and Gyro?
Wait, did Liquid legit thought IO was support? At the final game? Like after OG caused IO to be banned throughout the tournament?
Nah, they knew about OG's IO. Kuro was too cocky durint this series thinking they could beat the IO. He even ignored miracle asking to ban ember or pick it for him their previous game and OG picked ember and they got destroyed by that ember destroyed them
@@smilingcat3851 0:33 literally they all thought it was non-carry IO. Man, they made so many mistakes. I remember back in the day feeling like LGD vs OG was the true final.
Kuro and Miracle destroyed Liquid and Nigma.
Nice one idol❤❤❤❤
kuro want limit og draft with io so they pick omni and Wr who has good combo with IO
"Is it good enough to beat the OG Io?"
Spoilers: No, it wasn't.
Liquid need papers!!
OG went 5-0 in that TI with IO, how is liquid that clueless?
mind control being mind fuck in this series he even have to sell items just to buy dagger.. i would hate having kuro as my captain it's like 4v6 here 😅.
i love how Kuro is always so confident on his own judgement and shuts everyone else's. Kuro is a bad leader.
Windragner against timber is not a free game. You have to dance around so much in 5v5 ganks to kill it
Yatoro niyo malakas lng kpg Vovo kalaban kaya minamama niya hahaha 😂 Ang mga God Ng Dota2 is Sila Dendi MirAcLe SumaiL and Ana🔥
only w33 who never win ti in this final
Overconfidence and flaming og cost liquid the ti9
valve dont rename IO into ANA Mthfck IO
hmm..i see that the comments have no idea abt draftings eh?.. look at OG's draft ofc LQ is not gonna expect that
In the context of that tournament ana IO is feared well known. After 100% winrate in that TI every team learned to ban IO so it doesnt get picked by OG as carry.
@@faizalqorni7969 I know what you mean... but what i meant was OG's draft was so unorthodox..they played IO carry in other games but with a diff draftin for the other roles which made it look like IO was the carry..not here though...
i get what u mean though..
@@weird_perspective68 Sure, no problem. Calling everyone here have no idea about drafting is too much though. Most people knows, even kky should have known better, the other 3 games they banned Io first phase and somehow kky said "nah it's Ana Gyro"
this series of ti9 is liquid/ nigma downfall
Kuro is a toxic teammate
od is good but weeha is dumb
Actually they won because of diffusial blade on Gyro. He fucked BB. BB had no mana
Most overrated team is OG: they were so lucky winning their first TI! LGD was much better lol
@Switch-td8rl 2nd one was deserved! They were the best team in that TI! But the first one was pure luck and throw by LGD! In upper bracket final and in the grand final