How pressure from Michael Penix Jr. affects Kirk Cousins' rehab | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- Mike Florio and Chris Simms question if Kirk Cousins is rushing his Achilles rehab because Michael Penix Jr. is healthy and wanting to prove himself. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL
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I love this show, but damn they are milking the shit out of this story lol
😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂
just go with it, dang! there's not much news rn anyway until training camp start
plus it's a potentially big story. Chris is absolutely right because he's been in QB rooms and understands what a young good qb does to people in practice
@@SantaBarbaraSongbird Packers have been doing fine thus far
Yep 😡😡
Thank you. You guys just listed all of the reasons the Falcons should have drafted Penix at 8 and why Penix should be there. If Kirk can’t get ready properly with Penix there he never would have been ready without Penix there.
Stop with the ‘the sky is falling the sky is falling’ with the Cousins-Penix situation. It is not only not that bad - and McKay is not involved in the day to day anymore, or in anything, except as a consultant - it is actually a good thing. The Falcons likely have a franchise QB for the next five years. That’s a good outcome.
Will Kirk Cousins even be ready to start Week 1? Honestly, this all points to WTF were they doing signing him to that contract? Penix should be #1.
Obviously Kirk will be ready by week 1. Kirk was told by his doctor's that it's a 9 month recovery period. The Falcons wanted Kirk so that they could win now as he has all of the skills that they wanted (and they wanted a guy who was like Brees who Kirk has been compared to). Right after he got signed, the odds for the Falcons to win the Super Bowl immediately went up. Plus, they have no idea what they have in Penix…he could be bust…he could be great. And if he is a bust then they still got Kirk on the roster to win games.
Signing Kirk was also the guarantee against injury. Kirk takes care of his body better than Brady. Before this injury, the last time Kirk missed a game due to injury was in 2009 when he was in college which was 14 years ago. Achilles’ injuries are serious but I am not worried about Kirk’s injury when he was taking 7 step drop backs and throwing loss passes at only 4 months after his surgery.
Meanwhile Penix ….has had 4 season ending injuries in his college career. He had the same shoulder injury as Christian Ponder who was a bust. Penix also has had two torn ACLs which is the same injury that RGIII had and he couldn’t stay healthy. He might be fine, he may not be. You just never know…..so they signed the most durable QB in the league.
The only reason that Kirk even tore his Achilles was that he wore the longer spikes for the first time in his 12 year career and said that his cleat got stuck in the ground.
These two are a joke...where was all this concern when Aaron Rodgers was trying to come back from his achilles in 7 days. Give me a break national media.
This feels like Caitlin Clark concern for Cousins.
The Falcons getting the media attention this year 😅
I’m a kc fan & I sometimes forget other teams don’t get talked about in the media. I forgot how things were pre Mahomes era lol. We never got talked about even once. Now there’s more than enough kc content even during the off szn. If I were u I would just ask ur gm to draft a top 3 qb all time and have a TE date the most famous person in the world & that could potentially help. Thats how that works, right?😂
Atlanta needed a washer and dryer for their laundry room - and bought two washers.
He should’ve stayed with Minnesota, he has more money than he can ever spend. I like the fact that he is in Atlanta he is a great quarterback, and really enjoy watching him play. SKOL!!!!!!!!
From what I gather about this issue, it seems that, the GM and the coach went to Arthur about their concerns regarding Kirk, but Arthur Blank wanted Kirk signed, put his foot down and got what he wanted then turned around and told the GM and the coach that Hey, you can do whatever you want with the 8th pick.
Kirk was the Falcon's top target. Morris worked with Kirk when they were both in Washington. Morris is well aware of how Kirk takes care of his body (better than Brady) and also worked under Sean McVay who was Kirk's OC for two years. McVay has said that Kirk is "a guy you can absolutely win a championship with." Plus, it’s a 9 month rehab.
Need more proof? From Albert’s Breer’s article “Inside Kirk Cousins’ Departure from Minnesota and His Arrival in Atlanta”…..” To run the offense they’d (Morris and Fontenot) collectively envisioned, they needed a quarterback who could be an effective distributor, throw with accuracy and anticipation, and be a multiplier for the young skill-position guys. So, the ideal fit was a QB like Brees, who Fontenot and Pace had grown up with. Those in the Shanahan tree who were with Cousins in Washington, long felt Cousins, under the right circumstances, could be a quarterback who’d mirror Brees in a lot of ways.” The Falcons looked at other options, too, (like Mayfield, Fields, the draft) in case Kirk stayed with the Vikings.
Florio is complaining about a guy with a mid tier QB contract getting competition. To bring up Byron Murphy or Dallas Turner as an 8th overall pick doesn't make sense. Why reach? The first D player taken was 15th!
Revisionist history at its finest when it comes to the draft talk lmao. Also Kirk has a 10 top AAV contract, so I wouldn’t say a mid tier contract. I guess you can just say whatever you want in these comment sections even if it’s all wrong lmao.
The falcons reached grabbing the # 8 qb prospect in the 1st rd at 8 , the pick is Garbage
@@LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5puTHE NUMBER 8 QB????
it is funny that Atlanta had problems at Qb last 4 or 5 years and now they have a great QB and backup so can we just wait and drop all this bs
These two just LOVE hating on the Falcons and even seem to be wishing for the worse to happen to Kirk. I can't wait to see the shit they say come like November time.
Idc how Falcons fans try to spin it. Penix has also had major injuries and he’s not even proven at the NFL level. Should’ve stuck with one or the other. Either signed Kirk and build around him or should’ve saved that 100 mil and built around Penix through FA with maybe a pass rusher and WR.
Why when I can have both … y’all act like the next LT was in this draft
The fact that everyone is hating on the Atlanta Falcons is hilarious😂😂
The fact that you call being Critical "Hating" is what's hilarious.
Can we talk about something else?? I'm a Falcons fan, and most of us have accepted this issue. Why are we still talking about my team that hasn't even made the playoffs in five plus years?? Can we talk about the Falcons defense or the rookies we have signed?? This issue is old and tired.
Penix isn't even a proven NFL QB & has had an injury plagued short career. The "Pressure" is on Flacons Management not Kirk.
The fact that Penix has had more injuries than Kirk is hilarious.
another day another Mike Florio cry fest... jesus christ Kirks not a F****** child. He'll be ok
Florio is salty af.
The Falcons desperately need Cousins to do well in Year 1 so that they can trade him come Year 2.
More like......Kirk plays well, Penix doesn't play and gets traded so they can get a younger quarterback.
Cousins should not be allowed to throw the ball further than 10 yds until he can put his full weight on his back foot, otherwise he will injure his elbow and shoulder, I agree with that assessment.
He's following the rehab protocol.
They're acting like Cousins is a great QB!!!!
Any quarterback that leads their team back from a 33 point deficit is a great quarterback. And...is one of the most accurate quarterbacks and is one of the best deep ball passers in the league
7:09 BINGO! its the modeling/AIl /fantasy crap. Reality is just a minor variable.
Two crops equal one quarterback!
I love this story screw Kirk
12 yrs and 1 playoff win. Tells you all you need to know about cousins. Glad he is away from the Vikings finally.
Really?? Then why are you here commenting on Kirk??? Nobody cares what you think.
Tell me why you hate the falcons so much
I bet if it were the Vikings Florio would be singing their praise. All Florio is doing is contradicting himself. Can’t talk about cousins injury issues then say “why did they draft a qb”
Why pay Cousins when you know he has an injury and know you might pick a QB in the top 10
You can't justify taking a QB round 1, after paying Kirk 45M (same as Mahomes in 2024).
Mike is doing his best to create drama because of disappointed, and disapproval of the #8 pick. Get over it
Penix will start the 1st game if Cousins does not, he better have a typical rookie below 80 rating. If he has a mid 80 or above rating, he may never leave the field, I guess we waisted some money but sorry this is our guy. Being the 4th QB picked it is unlikely he will be a Stroud, Cousins isn't their guy just someone to win games and keep their jobs. You draft top 10 another year or 2 you are gone is league reality, it may be irrational but you have to win to keep your job now and in 5 years. You don't like the QB available, Minshew will get a mediocre team that won 7 games too close to another 6 or 7 win season.
Kirk was the Falcon's top target. Morris worked with Kirk when they were both in Washington. Morris is well aware of how Kirk takes care of his body (better than Brady) and also worked under Sean McVay who was Kirk's OC for two years. McVay has said that Kirk is "a guy you can absolutely win a championship with." Plus, it’s a 9 month rehab.
Need more proof? From Albert’s Breer’s article “Inside Kirk Cousins’ Departure from Minnesota and His Arrival in Atlanta”…..” To run the offense they’d (Morris and Fontenot) collectively envisioned, they needed a quarterback who could be an effective distributor, throw with accuracy and anticipation, and be a multiplier for the young skill-position guys. So, the ideal fit was a QB like Brees, who Fontenot and Pace had grown up with. Those in the Shanahan tree who were with Cousins in Washington, long felt Cousins, under the right circumstances, could be a quarterback who’d mirror Brees in a lot of ways.” The Falcons looked at other options, too, (like Mayfield, Fields, the draft) in case Kirk stayed with the Vikings.
So these 2 give all these Cousins injury concerns, then will turn around and tell you it’s a horrible pick. Can’t play both sides. It’s just contradictory.
It's a horrible pick because they paid Cousins, knowing the injury concerns. You can absolutely play both sides in this.
@@johnmikolajczyk You can also play both sides in signing Cousins and then taking pennix. Having your present set with a MVP CANDIDATE QB and then having a future franchise young QB who will give you 15 years.
Of course you can play both sides sounds to me there simply saying scout qbs before you pay the injured guy and if you love a qb you think you can draft instead spending all that money draft a placeholder but don't pay for qb then damage his chances of getting back with zero hiccups by putting pressure on him with your draft crush it dosnt matter if cousins is injury risk you evaluated him and decided he's going to be ready and you want him to be the guy so now treat him like that, you can say process is dumb whilst agreeing results are good that's not a problem.
PENIX IS MORE INJURY PRONE THAN COUSINS!
@@judshuttie70 Placeholder? Take a WEAKER QB when you have the cap space to get one thats legit? A placeholder doesn't make you a serious contender the way one like Cousins can, MVP CANDIDATE TOP 10ISH QB can. What? What QB who has 100 mil gets broken by pressure because you're 35 coming off an injury and a team does the smart thing to protect themselves? Thats weaksauce then.
"want him to be the guy so now treat him like that" To me he's being treated like it with the offensive weapons, OL, and rest of the draft picks to build the team IMO
Dysfunction Junction in ATL. As a Bucs fan....LOVE it!
There is no dysfunction. Everybody has moved on from this....except Florio and Simms.
*Crips
everyone cries baby for this rich journeyman starter nobody, and when jimmy g and jordan love showed up to town the patriots and the packers motivated MVPS and Super Bowls out of their vets, and the reality is the falcons will not be receiving a similar production return from cousins in this situation. most importantly because he's nobody, whose done nothing in this league for a decade beside clog a salary cap. shut up about respect he deserves that he's never freaking earned. it's so freaking irritating to hear everyone defend his honor as a starter when the embarrassing fact is he needs anyone to make a case for him at all and if he was who everyone tries to pretend he is this offseason randomly they would've never drafted penix. There i said it!
Your comment screams, “I don’t know anything…. I just like to look stupid".
Trash talking
The steelers should offer a second and a third rd pick for Curt Cousins and the Falcons should take it and Cousins should take it. The steelers just found out that both fields and Wilson are toxic, uncoachable, and they have learning dissabilities and are gauranteed to flop and ruin the chemistry of their team. They should cut them both and trade for Cousins. Penix is amazing. The Falcons need to make him the clear #1. This is great for Cousins, because he will be the clear #1 in Pittsburg, and he will be behind a great O-line and he will have a great team around him.
Both Penix and Coursins are great QB's that need to be starting and not sitting on the bench, wasting their prime. Trade Cousins to the Steelers so both can play.
Dumb segment bad faith arguments so many assumptions. Coaching staff has made it very clear that this is his job but I get it these summer months are a content desert
Wow this is getting boring now… there’s gotta be other things to talk about now surely
Then why did they pay Kirk so much money? Failcons played themselves
You guys are stomping all over your original argument. Cousins blew the Achilles mid season!! Of course he isn't ready during OTAs he may not be 100% in training camp.. the mismanagement was signing him to a massive guaranteed deal NOT signing Penix.
Cam Akers was back in 6 months. The Falcons wanted Kirk so that they could win now as he has all of the skills that they wanted (and they wanted a guy who was like Brees who Kirk has been compared to). Right after he got signed, the odds for the Falcons to win the Super Bowl immediately went up. Plus, they have no idea what they have in Penix…he could be bust…he could be great. And if he is a bust then they still got Kirk on the roster to win games.
Signing Kirk was also the guarantee against injury. Kirk takes care of his body better than Brady. Before this injury, the last time Kirk missed a game due to injury was in 2009 when he was in college which was 14 years ago. Achilles’ injuries are serious but I am not worried about Kirk’s injury when he was taking 7 step drop backs and throwing loss passes at only 4 months after his surgery.
Meanwhile Penix ….has had 4 season ending injuries in his college career. He had the same shoulder injury as Christian Ponder who was a bust. Penix also has had two torn ACLs which is the same injury that RGIII had and he couldn’t stay healthy. He might be fine, he may not be. You just never know…..so they signed the most durable QB in the league.
I guess florio thinks since Atlanta has a black general manager and coach they’re not “qualified “