The hits to proc Jolting Feedback don’t need to be on the same target. So you don’t need beefy targets to proc this, but a few adds will work as well. So I like it actually more than Voltshot for general gameplay without need to reload manually all the time. Great vid tho, I love these builds!
Something to consider about Jolting Feedback on Vantage Point: The origin trait allows every 2-3 kills will create the dark ether orb and then either shooting or collecting that orb will overflow the magazine, which is overall better since you can apply jolt without needing a kill/reload (perfect for overload champs). The origin trait could interfere with Voltshot with e mag overflow preventing reloads to activate after a kill (unless you avoid the dark ether orbs). The new dungeon auto rifle also has jolting feedback and can be strong with a large magazine. The perk I think also applies to hits overall to apply the jolt, not just on one enemy (but still perfect for yellow bars)
I have a Vantage with jolting feedback and stats for all and it is amazing. With stats for all you don't need to be amplified to get the fast reload which is nice. Just pray and spray and with stuff like Onslaught, you always have the buff going
Jolting Feedback is just the kind of perc that will work better on spraying weapons like ARs, MGs and Trace Rifles (maybe even SMGs though mag sizes tend to be smaller, but I could see it work with subsistence).
I got the VS dungeon auto rifle with these perks and it is just amazing on arc subclass actually started running it and gaining so many abilities with warlock.
I haven't gotten Eddy / Jolting Feedback to drop yet, but either way, let me make a case for a third column perk that the video doesn't recommend: Deconstruct. Always nice to have against Brigs and such, but for me the real benefit is in the partial reload you get every few shots. It basically just extends the mag, which is a good pairing with Jolting Feedback, since the directive of that perk is just to keep laying out damage as much and as long as you can. Then, if you get a dark ether orb while you're in the middle of all that extended mag firing, even better, as the overflow from shooting it will just further perpetuate you shooting without having to reload. It also makes it more versatile, as while Eddy Current is now S-tier for builds that can get amplified, IMO it's pretty useless when you're not amplified.
Honestly I don't think anything is a must have in the 3rd column as long as you get Jolting Feedback. Because of the origin trait you realistically never have to reload and on tough enemies where you might be reloading while unloading into them? You're probably positioned in a safe enough position to reload regardless of how fast/slow. So I think it's really just a 'take your pick'. Want the reload speed? Want some neutral stats? Whatever fits your style better you can use just as effectively.
Fallen sunstar has always been amazing and has stayed saved as one of my loadouts since loadouts were introduced. Jolting feedback doesn't interest me at all though, my 2 go-to weapons for the build are posterity which can roll a damage and reload perk (frenzy) with voltshot, along with the goated origin trait for arc that gives ability energy for just dealing damage. The other weapon being oversoul edict with demo + voltshot and another goated origin trait cursed thrall that adds explosions after getting melee kills. Voltshot is just too easy to keep up even in gm level content.
I'm convinced Deconstruct + Jolting Feedback doesn't exist. I've been enjoying stats-for-all but I'm looking to try out Deconstruct to see how far you can go without having to reload the weapon.
problem is that it doesnt give health back, its hard to want to play arc without the seasonal mods when solar/prismatic just play the game for you. It is my favorite tho
@@nothonest604 Bungie advertised arc as the movement class but the only buff it has for movement is not very good at it. Bungie didn't put in very many damage reduction aspects in arc classes and the healing isn't subclass targeted. Arc buffs need a rework and have more buffs aside from just "amplified" and "speed boost". Make amplified increase ability regeneration if there is a lack of damage reduction.
@@kky7346 Yeah thats a really good point, arc should have a movement ability that isnt just a glorified empowered melee and somehow solar has it lol. I don't think anyone would complain if arc had crazy ability spam (outside of crucible)
I doubt you can have 2 stacks of Jolt on an enemy which I think would be it's strongest use case. It would have to be a weapon with a high base reload speed to take advantage of Voltshot. That said it could be nice as just a general perk similar to Enlightened Action + Frenzy where one perk fills the gap the other can't. Voltshot for red bar add clear, Jolting when you've got a major/champ or boss.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Pretty much, it wouldn't need to double stack either. Voltshot for trash ad clear decimation, and Jolting Feedback for easily applying jolt on champs/bosses when there are no trash mobs in sight. It would be the ultimate Swiss army knife, good in every scenario.
@@TheMax107 yea he is but hes right about the second part stasis is just better honestly every other subclass is better except strand hunter and maybe void titan
@@kddatrapmane if youre surrounded the rift comes back in a few seconds so you can just place another one. Tell me youve never used a vesper build without tell me you've never used a vesper build is basically what you're doing 🤣
Maybe arc warlock is better than strand hunter, but not void titan, I can assure you that much. The hunter and titan arc subclasses are arguably the worst in the game, and I'm an arcstaff main at heart.
The literal second worst class for the longest time? AND because of an artifact mod ?? 😂 hard fuckin pass bruh. Need shit that's permanent i ain't relying on artifact seasonal junk to get a build to work. Why i stopped playing for a bit builds just crutched on that shit
It always feels so validating to see a build video only for it to end up being a build I've been running already. Like yes I'm something of a buildcrafter myself!
@Toothbrushs yeah the stormcaller. I don't remember the word, but titans have an exotic where they can shoot off a fire tornado instead of swinging their warhammer. And hunters have silence and squall. So, since Warlocks don't have a third arc super and we don't have mobile roaming super like those two, I assume we'll have a tempest roaming super.
Hm Ehroar are you rly making a Video about a useless Pulse Rifle in a already excisting Build ... i mean no hate but Destiny is kinda dead if you do that type of Videos
The hits to proc Jolting Feedback don’t need to be on the same target. So you don’t need beefy targets to proc this, but a few adds will work as well. So I like it actually more than Voltshot for general gameplay without need to reload manually all the time. Great vid tho, I love these builds!
Something to consider about Jolting Feedback on Vantage Point: The origin trait allows every 2-3 kills will create the dark ether orb and then either shooting or collecting that orb will overflow the magazine, which is overall better since you can apply jolt without needing a kill/reload (perfect for overload champs). The origin trait could interfere with Voltshot with e mag overflow preventing reloads to activate after a kill (unless you avoid the dark ether orbs). The new dungeon auto rifle also has jolting feedback and can be strong with a large magazine. The perk I think also applies to hits overall to apply the jolt, not just on one enemy (but still perfect for yellow bars)
4:38 that’s not what charged up does my brother
I have a Vantage with jolting feedback and stats for all and it is amazing. With stats for all you don't need to be amplified to get the fast reload which is nice. Just pray and spray and with stuff like Onslaught, you always have the buff going
Been loving that roll on the pulse with the fairly standard prismatic Getaway Artist build for the amplified proc.
Ergo Sum with Spark of Beacons is big brain
Deconstruct + Jolting Feedback is really good
Eddy current being fixed to properly work being amplified now is insane. Both this and the new AR from VH with Eddy/Jolting feel amazing
Jolting Feedback is just the kind of perc that will work better on spraying weapons like ARs, MGs and Trace Rifles (maybe even SMGs though mag sizes tend to be smaller, but I could see it work with subsistence).
I got the VS dungeon auto rifle with these perks and it is just amazing on arc subclass actually started running it and gaining so many abilities with warlock.
Arc gotta be the funnest subclass
Wrong and funnest isn't a word
I haven't gotten Eddy / Jolting Feedback to drop yet, but either way, let me make a case for a third column perk that the video doesn't recommend: Deconstruct. Always nice to have against Brigs and such, but for me the real benefit is in the partial reload you get every few shots. It basically just extends the mag, which is a good pairing with Jolting Feedback, since the directive of that perk is just to keep laying out damage as much and as long as you can. Then, if you get a dark ether orb while you're in the middle of all that extended mag firing, even better, as the overflow from shooting it will just further perpetuate you shooting without having to reload. It also makes it more versatile, as while Eddy Current is now S-tier for builds that can get amplified, IMO it's pretty useless when you're not amplified.
Honestly I don't think anything is a must have in the 3rd column as long as you get Jolting Feedback. Because of the origin trait you realistically never have to reload and on tough enemies where you might be reloading while unloading into them? You're probably positioned in a safe enough position to reload regardless of how fast/slow.
So I think it's really just a 'take your pick'. Want the reload speed? Want some neutral stats? Whatever fits your style better you can use just as effectively.
Fallen sunstar has always been amazing and has stayed saved as one of my loadouts since loadouts were introduced. Jolting feedback doesn't interest me at all though, my 2 go-to weapons for the build are posterity which can roll a damage and reload perk (frenzy) with voltshot, along with the goated origin trait for arc that gives ability energy for just dealing damage. The other weapon being oversoul edict with demo + voltshot and another goated origin trait cursed thrall that adds explosions after getting melee kills. Voltshot is just too easy to keep up even in gm level content.
Tough to get that damn roll on the pulse!
nah, all three of my voltshot roles are dismantled. voltshot does not work at all with the origin trait, and its just not worth giving up
This pulse rifle is just “ right side of wrong” pulse rifle from the forsaken dlc but an arc version of it and i love it so much with the jolt perks
I wish it was a 4 burst.
I live for these builds
I breathe for these builds
I die for these builds. 💀
I'm convinced Deconstruct + Jolting Feedback doesn't exist. I've been enjoying stats-for-all but I'm looking to try out Deconstruct to see how far you can go without having to reload the weapon.
Demo Voltshot Tarnished is da way
I don’t like or comment on much but you deserved it with this one‼️ I love it plus I bought the new sunstar ornament so might as well go use it 😂😂😂
Arc warlock has been way stronger than people give it credit for.
problem is that it doesnt give health back, its hard to want to play arc without the seasonal mods when solar/prismatic just play the game for you. It is my favorite tho
@@nothonest604 Bungie advertised arc as the movement class but the only buff it has for movement is not very good at it. Bungie didn't put in very many damage reduction aspects in arc classes and the healing isn't subclass targeted. Arc buffs need a rework and have more buffs aside from just "amplified" and "speed boost". Make amplified increase ability regeneration if there is a lack of damage reduction.
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@@kky7346 Yeah thats a really good point, arc should have a movement ability that isnt just a glorified empowered melee and somehow solar has it lol. I don't think anyone would complain if arc had crazy ability spam (outside of crucible)
I just run it with red death this season & problem solved (for now)
You better get our favorite qt patootie Ember back into redeem 😤
stats for all is the best in the left column
Vesper will always be king
Double primaries 😩
Full arc warlock? Pass
Jolting Feedback and Voltshot paired together on the same weapon would be perfect.
I doubt you can have 2 stacks of Jolt on an enemy which I think would be it's strongest use case. It would have to be a weapon with a high base reload speed to take advantage of Voltshot.
That said it could be nice as just a general perk similar to Enlightened Action + Frenzy where one perk fills the gap the other can't. Voltshot for red bar add clear, Jolting when you've got a major/champ or boss.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Pretty much, it wouldn't need to double stack either. Voltshot for trash ad clear decimation, and Jolting Feedback for easily applying jolt on champs/bosses when there are no trash mobs in sight. It would be the ultimate Swiss army knife, good in every scenario.
How do you retain so much ergo sum ammo?
Lol, ain't no way someone trying to get me on arc warlock. 0 heals, 0 DR increase, and no sustain. Arc warlock is worse than stasis now.
Vesper of radius, background damage, infinite healing rifts, blinds/stuns unstops, and spark of resistance for DR you're literally just wrong 🤣
Vesper requires you to sit still in a rift, while arc is an infinite speed subclass.
@@TheMax107 yea he is but hes right about the second part stasis is just better honestly every other subclass is better except strand hunter and maybe void titan
@@kddatrapmane if youre surrounded the rift comes back in a few seconds so you can just place another one. Tell me youve never used a vesper build without tell me you've never used a vesper build is basically what you're doing 🤣
Maybe arc warlock is better than strand hunter, but not void titan, I can assure you that much. The hunter and titan arc subclasses are arguably the worst in the game, and I'm an arcstaff main at heart.
The literal second worst class for the longest time? AND because of an artifact mod ?? 😂 hard fuckin pass bruh. Need shit that's permanent i ain't relying on artifact seasonal junk to get a build to work. Why i stopped playing for a bit builds just crutched on that shit
It always feels so validating to see a build video only for it to end up being a build I've been running already.
Like yes I'm something of a buildcrafter myself!
I bet warlock next "super" will be a arc roaming super. Similar to titan fire tornado and hunter stasis blizzard
Arc roaming super already exist lil bro
@@Toothbrushs I think they mean a throwable roaming super like throwing a thunderstorm or something
@Toothbrushs yeah the stormcaller. I don't remember the word, but titans have an exotic where they can shoot off a fire tornado instead of swinging their warhammer. And hunters have silence and squall.
So, since Warlocks don't have a third arc super and we don't have mobile roaming super like those two, I assume we'll have a tempest roaming super.
Dont think we gonna get shit by the looks of it @@felwinterpeak1674
@@felwinterpeak1674 just a moving thunder storm would be insane bro
Don’t bother going for jolting feedback. Just get a voltshot weapon. A primary that’s not good at ad clearing is just useless.
lol do you think jolting feedback isn’t good at ad clear? It’s just a better version of voltshot for end game content.
Hm Ehroar are you rly making a Video about a useless Pulse Rifle in a already excisting Build ... i mean no hate but Destiny is kinda dead if you do that type of Videos