Oswald was in the lineup. The only one with a black eye. From the Warren Commission" In her testimony, she initially stated six times that she recognised nobody in the lineup. " jk
She also claimed she spoke to Tippit after he was shot in the head. And when asked if she recognized anyone in the lineup, she said no. She was asked how she picked him out of the lineup. "I got a cold chill." The Warren Commission lawyers described her as "batsh*t crazy, and unreliable."
Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting Tippit and fleeing, the shells were matched to Oswald's revolver, which he owned and was in possession of, he was caught red-handed just minutes later nearby trying to shoot a second cop, and he observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing. I've asked you before to explain how a conspiracy framing Oswald for Tippit's murder could possibly have known all the things they would have had to know in order to successfully do so, and I stand by that question.
Of course, the refrain coming from the Shills is always the same. "Nearly a Dozen witnesses I.D. Oswald." Until you look at the Witnesses and how the Dallas Police conducted the lineups and then you realize they made it almost impossible for them to pick someone else, and if they did, they paid for it with their lives.
Has anyone ever tried to do a background on this woman? Her narrative seems so contrived. They could easily have gotten her from an institution, dressed her up like a humble housewife and planted her in that kitchen. Something very off about it all. Fake news it would seem.
@@aaronz7056 Only someone who has not read the testimony or followed up on the problems they had with the lineups would say something like that. The witnesses were so bad that they had to have the suspects give their names in the line-up because no one was picking Oswald. Do you think anyone might have heard the name Lee Oswald in Dallas after the assassination? And btw, I am still waiting for you to show me photos or cite the evidence of the painted yellow strips on other street curbs on the night of Nov 21st that you claim are meaningless. This is your big opportunity to prove me wrong, and it is the 3rd time I have asked.
@@davidarbuckle7236 a) I have literally asked you a dozen times to explain how the hell anybody framing Oswald for this could possibly have known everything they would have needed to know in order to do so, citing dozens of examples... and you have consistently refused to answer the question. b) I have called you out many times for accusing people as conspirators without any evidence so long as it suits your crackpot "theories..." and you have consistently refused to provide any and just keep on doing it. c) I have called you out for flatly refusing to answer highly relevant questions and demonstrate you have a leg to stand on and hilariously you act as though I somehow owe it to you to answer your question, primarily expecting me to explain why sinister operatives did NOT risk painting wet lines on the street, presumably because your professional hit men were such crap shots they couldn't hit the side of a barn otherwise. d) Once again, as always, I don't see you making the slightest attempt to explain what really did happen that day, you just summarily dismiss all hard evidence and let Oswald off the hook at every turn. e) I'm being called out for a demonstrable serial liar who posts how "interesting" it is Ruth Paine is "maybe gay..." lol
She claims she didn't pay much attention but she gives out a lot of info! Maybe she can explain revolver empty cartridge and auto magic empty cartridge maybe she can explain "OSWALDs wallet at the scene plus the wallet which was taken from oswald when arrested at movie theater 😅 maybe she can explain why tippit was patrolling an area when his usual area was left without patrol😮. 50cents this lady didn't see 95% of what she stated in this interview 😮
She didn't see much of anything as she admitted to covering her eyes during most of the shooting. She also claimed to have knelt and talked to officer Tippett after the shooting. That's perposterous as he was killed from the shot to the temple. The woman was a complete crackpot but gave the authorities who were out to frame Oswald the fairy tale needed to incriminate him.
@ronricherson6685 . The second "Oswald " wallet was a plant by Mr. CIA Captain Westbrook of the DPD. It disappeared from evidence when the implications of two wallets to the plotters became apparent. A Dallas news station WFAA filmed the wallet at the scene of the shooting, taking away the argument of the lone nutters fairytale of no second wallet discovered.
@@aaronz7056 if you looked at the warren commission.... All the witnesses did not correctly identify the shooter FROM the window of /in the depository sixth floor
Not the person asking questions but the narrator for this and other _"it was Oswald"_ videos all sound like Dan Rather. That's a great place to start : *What did Dan Rather (of CBS News, 60 Minutes, etc.) say about the effect of gunshots on JFK? I've seen film on YT of Dan Rather _"demonstrating what happened."_ It was obviously filmed before Rather was aware that the Zapruder Film had not been seized like so many others that day.
The first sentence of Markham's affidavit states that Tippit was shot at 1:06, as she was on her way to catch a 1:12 bus on Jefferson. Oswald was observed in front of Beckley at 1:04. Bowley saw Tippit lying in the street at 1:10. Craig heard the report on the Tippit shooting at the TSBD at 1:06. Burroughs stated Oswald entered the Texas Theater no later than 1:07.
No, Tippit was shot about 1:15-1:16. Oswald left the rooming house about 1:04. The guy in the truck used tippits radio at 1:17. Oswald went into the theater at 1:36 after stopping at brewers shoe store to let a cop car pass at 1:35.
@@stewartj3407 Tippit's time of death was recorded at 1:15 at Methodist Hospital. Harvey was already in the theater at 1:07. Lee was dropping his wallet, sprinkling spent hulls from an automatic, and casually leaving the Tippit murder scene, holding a raised pistol as he walked down Patton.
@@dphinman6952 you conspiracy theorist and your alternate facts. Stick to the facts and evidence. If the truth is on your side why the need to make up alternate facts?
@@stewartj3407 1:15pm time of death, typewritten on an official hospital death certificate is considered prima facie evidence in a courtroom, as is a sworn affidavit that states Tippit was observed shot at 1:06pm. The Warren Commission narrative has been repeatedly proven to be derived by non-scientific means. You need to get out of 1964.
She covered her eyes for A FEW MINUTES ; and when she put her hands down, he looked at her and then THEN he ran away. Apparently, Oswald was in no hurry. I wonder how he got to the theater on time for his arrest.. It’s not a slip of words; she’s told that story the same way , several times without correction
Really? Lol. Can you think logically for a second. A few minutes standing there would’ve been a long time, by that time the sisters would’ve came, the guy in the truck would’ve been there, the taxicab driver, all this commotion would’ve been happening around Tippit and trying to help him, but here’s ole Helen still standing there with her hands over her eyes. It was just her way of saying I held my hands over my eyes for a bit, you conspiracy theorist with your willingness to latch onto any little thing that has no bearing on anything whatsoever.
This just sounds like you're making a joke. You think Oswald just stood there for a few minutes? Lol. No one else said that, so use common sense and consider she meant "a few moments". And they, including Markham, said Oswald walked quickly away, didn't run - that's another case of you not getting it right. With dis-and mis-info like this from you, no wonder the facts get all confused and people buy into conspiracy garbage.
@@peterfraser9070 yep, they’ve been telling their alternate facts for 60years and led so many people to naively believe it, without checking the actual facts and evidence. Now you have to wade through 60 years of lies that started with mark lane to get the truth.
@@stewartj3407 Maybe the "hands over her eyes" is the reason she was not able to say she recognized Oswald when she testified before the Warren Commission.
@@peterfraser9070 Oswald was already at the theater buying a ticket and getting Popcorn in the lobby. But maybe you can make the case that the Theater Manager was lying...That has never stopped WR Apologists. Every witness who creates a problem is insane or lying or a grifter.
Yeah, she was crazy.. But 9 other people corroborated her account, as did physical evidence that was strewn across 10 city blocks.. lol.. So, she definitely got it right..
LIE! Aquilla Clemons, A Black Maid KNEW Tippit. She saw a SHORT, CHUNKY MAN shoot Tippit. He was with a Taller, Thin Man. This Lady is a LIAR! Oswald left his rooming house at 1:04 pm. Tippit was killed approximately 1:06.pm Oswald was NOWHERE NEAR that area. Tippit was part of the Murder Plot!
She was a complete and utter nut, and a close friend of Ruby. Several of the lawyers stated the same about her. But they had very few witnesses who could I.D. Oswald. Clemons stated there were two assailants and she was not alone. She said the one with the gun was TALL and thin. And the 2nd man was short and stocky. But what is even more odd, a couple of witnesses said that Officer Croy was already on the scene when the shooting happened. He interviewed several witnesses but could not remember the name of even one. He never filled out a report either. One of your fellow officers is cut down in the line of duty and you don't even fill out a report when you are the first person on the scene? But he did have the 2nd wallet. Couldn't remember how he got it, didn't include it in a report either.
@@dphinman6952 So in other words she was walking to the bus stop? The Bus Stop was not on the corner of 10th and Patton where she stood? Because I believe she was quoted as saying the bus picked up @ 1:06PM and the shooting according to her took place before the bus came.
Yeah. She had been filmed several times telling the exact same story. Maybe that is why she had such a hard time in front of the Commission when she repeated over and over that she DID NOT RECOGNIZE Oswald.
You can't fake that kind of authenticity. Her final words, and her eyes at the beginning, form the genesis of the "Trick of the Tale." Texan women don't play.
Oswald was in the lineup. The only one with a black eye. From the Warren Commission" In her testimony, she initially stated six times that she recognised nobody in the lineup. " jk
She also claimed she spoke to Tippit after he was shot in the head. And when asked if she recognized anyone in the lineup, she said no. She was asked how she picked him out of the lineup. "I got a cold chill." The Warren Commission lawyers described her as "batsh*t crazy, and unreliable."
Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting Tippit and fleeing, the shells were matched to Oswald's revolver, which he owned and was in possession of, he was caught red-handed just minutes later nearby trying to shoot a second cop, and he observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing.
I've asked you before to explain how a conspiracy framing Oswald for Tippit's murder could possibly have known all the things they would have had to know in order to successfully do so, and I stand by that question.
Of course, the refrain coming from the Shills is always the same. "Nearly a Dozen witnesses I.D. Oswald." Until you look at the Witnesses and how the Dallas Police conducted the lineups and then you realize they made it almost impossible for them to pick someone else, and if they did, they paid for it with their lives.
Has anyone ever tried to do a background on this woman? Her narrative seems so contrived. They could easily have gotten her from an institution, dressed her up like a humble housewife and planted her in that kitchen. Something very off about it all. Fake news it would seem.
@@aaronz7056 Only someone who has not read the testimony or followed up on the problems they had with the lineups would say something like that. The witnesses were so bad that they had to have the suspects give their names in the line-up because no one was picking Oswald. Do you think anyone might have heard the name Lee Oswald in Dallas after the assassination? And btw, I am still waiting for you to show me photos or cite the evidence of the painted yellow strips on other street curbs on the night of Nov 21st that you claim are meaningless. This is your big opportunity to prove me wrong, and it is the 3rd time I have asked.
@@davidarbuckle7236 a) I have literally asked you a dozen times to explain how the hell anybody framing Oswald for this could possibly have known everything they would have needed to know in order to do so, citing dozens of examples... and you have consistently refused to answer the question.
b) I have called you out many times for accusing people as conspirators without any evidence so long as it suits your crackpot "theories..." and you have consistently refused to provide any and just keep on doing it.
c) I have called you out for flatly refusing to answer highly relevant questions and demonstrate you have a leg to stand on and hilariously you act as though I somehow owe it to you to answer your question, primarily expecting me to explain why sinister operatives did NOT risk painting wet lines on the street, presumably because your professional hit men were such crap shots they couldn't hit the side of a barn otherwise.
d) Once again, as always, I don't see you making the slightest attempt to explain what really did happen that day, you just summarily dismiss all hard evidence and let Oswald off the hook at every turn.
e) I'm being called out for a demonstrable serial liar who posts how "interesting" it is Ruth Paine is "maybe gay..."
lol
She claims she didn't pay much attention but she gives out a lot of info! Maybe she can explain revolver empty cartridge and auto magic empty cartridge maybe she can explain "OSWALDs wallet at the scene plus the wallet which was taken from oswald when arrested at movie theater 😅 maybe she can explain why tippit was patrolling an area when his usual area was left without patrol😮. 50cents this lady didn't see 95% of what she stated in this interview 😮
Can't forget Groden
Bart Sibrel and Jara White
She didn't see much of anything as she admitted to covering her eyes during most of the shooting. She also claimed to have knelt and talked to officer Tippett after the shooting. That's perposterous as he was killed from the shot to the temple. The woman was a complete crackpot but gave the authorities who were out to frame Oswald the fairy tale needed to incriminate him.
Just wondering how a poor man like Oswald owned TWO wallets and why he carried both of them-at the same time.
It almost seems intentional. Hmmm.
@ronricherson6685 . The second "Oswald " wallet was a plant by Mr. CIA Captain Westbrook of the DPD. It disappeared from evidence when the implications of two wallets to the plotters became apparent. A Dallas news station WFAA filmed the wallet at the scene of the shooting, taking away the argument of the lone nutters fairytale of no second wallet discovered.
Ruby was short...
Nearly a dozen witnesses ID'd Oswald.
@@aaronz7056 if you looked at the warren commission....
All the witnesses
did not correctly identify the shooter FROM the window of /in the depository sixth floor
Was Ruby short
@@ronniebishop2496 Ruby was 5' 8", about 145-150
@@stephenstapleton1324 That’s not that short, is it?
Not the person asking questions but the narrator for this and other _"it was Oswald"_ videos all sound like Dan Rather. That's a great place to start : *What did Dan Rather (of CBS News, 60 Minutes, etc.) say about the effect of gunshots on JFK? I've seen film on YT of Dan Rather _"demonstrating what happened."_ It was obviously filmed before Rather was aware that the Zapruder Film had not been seized like so many others that day.
Rather was involved in the cover up no doubt
The first sentence of Markham's affidavit states that Tippit was shot at 1:06, as she was on her way to catch a 1:12 bus on Jefferson.
Oswald was observed in front of Beckley at 1:04.
Bowley saw Tippit lying in the street at 1:10.
Craig heard the report on the Tippit shooting at the TSBD at 1:06.
Burroughs stated Oswald entered the Texas Theater no later than 1:07.
No, Tippit was shot about 1:15-1:16. Oswald left the rooming house about 1:04. The guy in the truck used tippits radio at 1:17. Oswald went into the theater at 1:36 after stopping at brewers shoe store to let a cop car pass at 1:35.
@@stewartj3407 Tippit's time of death was recorded at 1:15 at Methodist Hospital. Harvey was already in the theater at 1:07. Lee was dropping his wallet, sprinkling spent hulls from an automatic, and casually leaving the Tippit murder scene, holding a raised pistol as he walked down Patton.
@@dphinman6952 you conspiracy theorist and your alternate facts. Stick to the facts and evidence. If the truth is on your side why the need to make up alternate facts?
There fore the supposed witnesses who couldn't pick him out of a lineup were wrong and Oswald simply wasn't there.
@@stewartj3407 1:15pm time of death, typewritten on an official hospital death certificate is considered prima facie evidence in a courtroom, as is a sworn affidavit that states Tippit was observed shot at 1:06pm. The Warren Commission narrative has been repeatedly proven to be derived by non-scientific means. You need to get out of 1964.
She covered her eyes for
A FEW MINUTES ; and when she put her hands down, he looked at her and then THEN he ran away.
Apparently, Oswald was in no hurry. I wonder how he got to the theater on time for his arrest..
It’s not a slip of words; she’s told that story the same way , several times without correction
Really? Lol. Can you think logically for a second. A few minutes standing there would’ve been a long time, by that time the sisters would’ve came, the guy in the truck would’ve been there, the taxicab driver, all this commotion would’ve been happening around Tippit and trying to help him, but here’s ole Helen still standing there with her hands over her eyes. It was just her way of saying I held my hands over my eyes for a bit, you conspiracy theorist with your willingness to latch onto any little thing that has no bearing on anything whatsoever.
This just sounds like you're making a joke. You think Oswald just stood there for a few minutes? Lol. No one else said that, so use common sense and consider she meant "a few moments". And they, including Markham, said Oswald walked quickly away, didn't run - that's another case of you not getting it right.
With dis-and mis-info like this from you, no wonder the facts get all confused and people buy into conspiracy garbage.
@@peterfraser9070 yep, they’ve been telling their alternate facts for 60years and led so many people to naively believe it, without checking the actual facts and evidence. Now you have to wade through 60 years of lies that started with mark lane to get the truth.
@@stewartj3407 Maybe the "hands over her eyes" is the reason she was not able to say she recognized Oswald when she testified before the Warren Commission.
@@peterfraser9070 Oswald was already at the theater buying a ticket and getting Popcorn in the lobby. But maybe you can make the case that the Theater Manager was lying...That has never stopped WR Apologists. Every witness who creates a problem is insane or lying or a grifter.
in 75 yrs at grocery stores... my 1st Aldi's ✓ out in 2019,👀... litems flew like jets taking off at MSP airport... mach1
Yeah, she was crazy.. But 9 other people corroborated her account, as did physical evidence that was strewn across 10 city blocks.. lol.. So, she definitely got it right..
LIE! Aquilla Clemons, A Black Maid KNEW Tippit. She saw a SHORT, CHUNKY MAN shoot Tippit. He was with a Taller, Thin Man. This Lady is a LIAR! Oswald left his rooming house at 1:04 pm. Tippit was killed approximately 1:06.pm
Oswald was NOWHERE NEAR that area. Tippit was part of the Murder Plot!
Planted evidence doesn't count, which much of it obviously was. It began with switching the rifles and went from there.
I knew her son James. He was one of the worst dudes ever to come out of Dallas
MARKHAM, , JAMES "Skip" ROBERT Passed away November 10, 2005 in Dallas, TX. He was born May 17, 1944 in Rogersville, TN.
* Is that her son?
@@tula1433I don’t think so. Her son James died in Prison
The lawyer for the committee said she was an utter screwball 😅
She was a complete and utter nut, and a close friend of Ruby. Several of the lawyers stated the same about her. But they had very few witnesses who could I.D. Oswald. Clemons stated there were two assailants and she was not alone. She said the one with the gun was TALL and thin. And the 2nd man was short and stocky. But what is even more odd, a couple of witnesses said that Officer Croy was already on the scene when the shooting happened. He interviewed several witnesses but could not remember the name of even one. He never filled out a report either. One of your fellow officers is cut down in the line of duty and you don't even fill out a report when you are the first person on the scene? But he did have the 2nd wallet. Couldn't remember how he got it, didn't include it in a report either.
She knew what time she had to catch the bus at 1:12pm on Jefferson, blocks away.
@@dphinman6952 The bus was 1.15, one block away from the murder scene.
@@dphinman6952 So in other words she was walking to the bus stop? The Bus Stop was not on the corner of 10th and Patton where she stood? Because I believe she was quoted as saying the bus picked up @ 1:06PM and the shooting according to her took place before the bus came.
And a moral of the story is, when your life is in danger, always put your hands over your face folks, and it'll be alright.
Yeah. She had been filmed several times telling the exact same story. Maybe that is why she had such a hard time in front of the Commission when she repeated over and over that she DID NOT RECOGNIZE Oswald.
You can't fake that kind of authenticity. Her final words, and her eyes at the beginning, form the genesis of the "Trick of the Tale." Texan women don't play.
They pray, and they calmly speak truth to power. The essence of Grace.
@@davidwartski7213 You will want to come back and read the comment from M Kidd. It arrived 10 minutes after yours.
@@arcanondrum6543 Thanks, sir.
@@arcanondrum6543I don't see a comment from M Kidd?
@@craft-o-matic399 I guess he was just Kidding.